Gringo - I sent a freakin blockbuster proposal...

Couldn't do it. Your pitching would dominate week in week out...we'd all look like choir boys compared to you after that.

I think we'll work something out at some point though.

Gringo...hmmm lol...u prob wont like this but y i'm looken instead of senden the offer...Lopez and Posada for Lincecum...however i also thought bout throwen in Sheets and then tryen for someone else or the 3 for 1...lol....sorry course i'm open to ur offers of course

I have a hard time doing anything more than two players for one. Don't want to drop too many players ya know? Unless I have some worthless filler....

If you want Lincecum you gotta bring equal value. Lincy is an A+ player. Gotta give me at least two B+ types. I'll propose you something.

If you want Lincecum you gotta bring equal value. Lincy is an A+ player. Gotta give me at least two B+ types. I'll propose you something.


I'm pumped that I got Manuel Corpas off waivers.

By all accounts he is going to beat out Huston Street for the closer role, which means I will have 5 top starters and 4 closers as well

I'm pumped that I got Manuel Corpas off waivers.

By all accounts he is going to beat out Huston Street for the closer role, which means I will have 5 top starters and 4 closers as well

Yeah good grab. I didn't want to waste a waiver move this early because once the season starts and good players under perform, you start to see some good names being dropped.

Yeah good grab. I didn't want to waste a waiver move this early because once the season starts and good players under perform, you start to see some good names being dropped.

Is there a waiver wire limit this year?

Is there a waiver wire limit this year?

No. There IS a max acquisitions per week rule though. You can't make more than 5 acquisitions in a week. That stops people from just picking up 100 pitchers/batters to overpower another team.

No. There IS a max acquisitions per week rule though. You can't make more than 5 acquisitions in a week. That stops people from just picking up 100 pitchers/batters to overpower another team.

If you decide to just give up on the steals category being that you have very little team speed, I'd be interested in Ellsbury.

No. There IS a max acquisitions per week rule though. You can't make more than 5 acquisitions in a week. That stops people from just picking up 100 pitchers/batters to overpower another team.

Oh....Ok....I see.

do any transactions made right now count against the limit for the 1st week of the season?

do any transactions made right now count against the limit for the 1st week of the season?

To be honest with you I don't know. Technically speaking, week 1 is supposed to start March 30th, these transactions aren't supposed to count against the max weekly limit until that date. I don't know by experience or anything though.

I'd tell you to be careful with the moves you make. You should be fine in making as many moves as you want until March 30th but don't quote me on that.

Couldn't do it. Your pitching would dominate week in week out...we'd all look like choir boys compared to you after that.

I think we'll work something out at some point though.

I have to say I am thrilled with my pitching staff as it is currently assembled. If Ervin Santana comes through again this year like I think he will This could be a special squad.

I'm a little worried about my team power, but if Yimmy steps it up and returns to his 25-30 hr and 85-95 rbi level I should be ok...

I see why you laughed about me picking up Ziegler now.....lolz

I needed another closer, but I'm still concerned that he may lose the job to Devine. We'll see what happens...

If you decide to just give up on the steals category being that you have very little team speed, I'd be interested in Ellsbury.

Give up? Moi?

Ellsbury could potentially swipe 60-70 bags this year. I'm guessing he'll get 60. That sets up very nicely for me. Now if he does that and I can get 20 from Wright and 20 from Lopez, I'm sitting pretty.

Ellsbury - 60
Wright - 20
Lopez - 20

is equal to:

Hanley - 40
Pedroia - 20
Milledge - 25
Hunter - 15

I have a couple of guys waiting in the wings to help me out in the steals category just sitting on the FA list. They'll be called up to Lance the Lumberjack at some point.

I needed another closer, but I'm still concerned that he may lose the job to Devine. We'll see what happens...

Man so did I....thats why I was trying to pick him up too. I think he'll win the job personally but ya never know.

I have to say I am thrilled with my pitching staff as it is currently assembled. If Ervin Santana comes through again this year like I think he will This could be a special squad.

I'm a little worried about my team power, but if Yimmy steps it up and returns to his 25-30 hr and 85-95 rbi level I should be ok...

Yep, it is looking really solid. You have low ERA/WHIP, high K's, lots of depth. That's exactly what I always try to do. I think Shields is ready to notch a 20 win season. My only concern is having too many "prospect" or "potential" type players on my staff. Joba, Scherzer, Broxton, Bell, Carpenter and Devine all have something to prove.

So I'm officially buying the Hermida hype, like so many others have before me (unsuccessfully). The spring numbers have convinced me to keep him around for the first couple of weeks of the season.

I mean one of my potential outfielders has to break out this year. Ethier, Upton, Ankiel, Hermida, Bradley.....too much talent there.

Ellsbury - 60
Wright - 20
Lopez - 20

is equal to:

Hanley - 40
Pedroia - 20
Milledge - 25
Hunter - 15
.

I'm gonna get 15-20 steals minimum from Lewis and Weeks also.

Clint Barmes is gonna steal 20 as well in his first full season as a starter.

Milledge is gonna get 30 or more.

I will be pissed if I lose this category more than once or twice.

I'm gonna get 15-20 steals minimum from Lewis and Weeks also.

Clint Barmes is gonna steal 20 as well in his first full season as a starter.

Milledge is gonna get 30 or more.

I will be pissed if I lose this category more than once or twice.

You have one of the better teams for that category. Sonny does as well. I'd be more than happy to drop steals to you guys over the course of the year if I can beat mostly everyone else on the strength of Ellsbury and two other players stepping up week to week.

I have a hard time doing anything more than two players for one. Don't want to drop too many players ya know? Unless I have some worthless filler....

If you want Lincecum you gotta bring equal value. Lincy is an A+ player. Gotta give me at least two B+ types. I'll propose you something.
i feel ya wich is y i wuz gon throw in Sheets...looks as if u may have needed a catcher as well wich is y i wuz thinken Posada....Haren and Lincecum basicly the same player i'm sure i dont wanna give Haren anymore than u wanna give up Lince...lol....i'd b fine with that trade str8 up..however i cant lose both Dye and Lopez to get a shit..and Upton...who is still tryna prove himself...i do think tho he will have breakout year...but i'm not willen to chance it.......yet...haha

i feel ya wich is y i wuz gon throw in Sheets...looks as if u may have needed a catcher as well wich is y i wuz thinken Posada....Haren and Lincecum basicly the same player i'm sure i dont wanna give Haren anymore than u wanna give up Lince...lol....i'd b fine with that trade str8 up..however i cant lose both Dye and Lopez to get a shit..and Upton...who is still tryna prove himself...i do think tho he will have breakout year...but i'm not willen to chance it.......yet...haha

Lincecum and Haren are the same player? That's a new one. Must be like Greg Oden being the same as Lamarcus Aldridge.

i feel ya wich is y i wuz gon throw in Sheets...looks as if u may have needed a catcher as well wich is y i wuz thinken Posada....Haren and Lincecum basicly the same player i'm sure i dont wanna give Haren anymore than u wanna give up Lince...lol....i'd b fine with that trade str8 up..however i cant lose both Dye and Lopez to get a shit..and Upton...who is still tryna prove himself...i do think tho he will have breakout year...but i'm not willen to chance it.......yet...haha
I should prob take that statement back...Iwamura is actually a decent player...my bad

I'm pretty happy with my team this year.
last year i was plagued with injuries.
btw sorry i didnt make the draft, i caught a case at the end of the shift, so i had to stay and process.

So I'm officially buying the Hermida hype, like so many others have before me (unsuccessfully). The spring numbers have convinced me to keep him around for the first couple of weeks of the season.

I mean one of my potential outfielders has to break out this year. Ethier, Upton, Ankiel, Hermida, Bradley.....too much talent there.
I'm thinking I have a breakout or two in my OF aswell....although Rios and Markakis are farely proven to be good, they could end up great this season. Alos Maybin is a lock for a starting spot in the Marlins OF, he is having a great spring.

Lincecum and Haren are the same player? That's a new one. Must be like Greg Oden being the same as Lamarcus Aldridge.

I think Haren and Lincecum are very close.....I don't know forsure but I think you're slightly overating him. He isn't head and shoulders above everyone IMO. In fact he's not on a great team and probably won't get 20 W like CC,Haren and a few others who IMO are more likely to.

Haren is no Lincecum. Tim could have a 300 k season. Lincecum, Sabathia and Santana are in a class by themselves.

Treez, I sent a proposal...

I'm expecting a huge season from Lastings Milledge. He will hit 20 pts higher and therefore have more chances to steal bases and score runs.

I'm calling for 90R with 25HR and 35SB.

Haren is no Lincecum. Tim could have a 300 k season. Lincecum, Sabathia and Santana are in a class by themselves.

I wouldn't put Lincecum in the class of a Sabathia. I just wouldn't. He's only done it for one season. CC put a franchise on his back and took them to the playoffs.

I wouldn't put Lincecum in the class of a Sabathia. I just wouldn't. He's only done it for one season. CC put a franchise on his back and took them to the playoffs.

What does that have to do with anything? Fantasy is purely numbers. Lince had more quality starts, more k's, a lesser era, more wins and less losses than Sabathia did last year. The kid is just entering his prime...not even maybe. He's only getting better.

What does that have to do with anything? Fantasy is purely numbers. Lince had more quality starts, more k's, a lesser era, more wins and less losses than Sabathia did last year. The kid is just entering his prime...not even maybe. He's only getting better.

I just think he's been overrated. He's only done it for one year. That's a fact. There have been plenty of young ball players to have breakout years and comeback and put up a dud. Recently was Carmona. Who was great his rookie season. Last year ehhh.

What does that have to do with anything? Fantasy is purely numbers. Lince had more quality starts, more k's, a lesser era, more wins and less losses than Sabathia did last year. The kid is just entering his prime...not even maybe. He's only getting better.
ur basen everything on "What If" they are very similar pitchers u base everything on last year but look at 2007 stats Haren is better seasons change...blah blah..but they the same thing come on now....jus admit it

I just think he's been overrated. He's only done it for one year. That's a fact. There have been plenty of young ball players to have breakout years and comeback and put up a dud. Recently was Carmona. Who was great his rookie season. Last year ehhh.

A better comparison would be Mark Prior, who was comparable to him in terms of talent. Lincecum is on another planet than Carmona talent-wise, who was never as highly regarded as Lince. And NEITHER of those guys did what Lincecum did last year when you consider the team he played for. He did it with one of the worst teams in baseball. This is one of the best pitching prospects to come along in years. Have you ever actually watched him pitch? He makes people look silly. He has a nasty repertoire.

ur basen everything on "What If" they are very similar pitchers u base everything on last year but look at 2007 stats Haren is better seasons change...blah blah..but they the same thing come on now....jus admit it

Haha what? 2007? It doesn't work like that. In Tim's second season in the majors (first full) he put up top 3 fantasy numbers. Haren had a 4+ ERA in his second full season and probably wasn't ranked in the top 100 overall. I'm basing my argument around the potential this kid has and what he proved last year in a tough situation. It's not like he did what he did with incredible run support. He had one of th most anemic lineups in baseball hitting behind him. Again, he's only going to get better, unless he suffers some horrific unseen elbow injury or something.

Raesaad, I sent you an intriguing offer. Check it out...

I'm pretty happy with my team this year.
last year i was plagued with injuries.
btw sorry i didnt make the draft, i caught a case at the end of the shift, so i had to stay and process.

It's all good. You came away with a really solid offense. You just gotta beef up the pitching and you'll be set.

Gringo, trade proposal sent...

It's all good. You came away with a really solid offense. You just gotta beef up the pitching and you'll be set.

which team is jefe's?

Gringo, trade proposal sent...

I'll check it out.

What a great day. Tourney basketball, done with work for the day, sun is shining.....

Gotta mock up a list for my friends live in-person draft on Saturday. I have the 5th pick (again). I don't think I'm going to get David Wright this time though. Who would you rather take...Ryan Braun, Miguel Cabrera or Grady Sizemore?

I'm thinkin Braun.

which team is jefe's?

He is "The A-Roids".

I'll check it out.

What a great day. Tourney basketball, done with work for the day, sun is shining.....

Gotta mock up a list for my friends live in-person draft on Saturday. I have the 5th pick (again). I don't think I'm going to get David Wright this time though. Who would you rather take...Ryan Braun, Miguel Cabrera or Grady Sizemore?

I'm thinkin Braun.

Agreed.

I did my sports bar league last night. I t was awesome. I was so toasted by the last few picks that I just started pulling names out of my ass like Jim Thome, lol. Still wound up with a great team though...

For the benifit of eveyone let's have a list of the team names and their managers.

Kent Hrbek Outdoors -
Titus Pullo - Sonny
Trojans -
Juice These Pros - Hitman
CoRox's -
The A-Roids - Jefe
Puff Batty - lefhooktodabody
RAES RAYS 09 - Raesaad
14-K -
TreezElite - kbpoetree
Kenny Powers - the fix
Lance the Lumberjack - Gringo

Help fill in the blanks....

For the benifit of eveyone let's have a list of the team names and their managers.

Kent Hrbek Outdoors - The FairPole
Titus Pullo - Sonny
Trojans - UncleJeffay/Trojan Man (related to 14-K)
Juice These Pros - Hitman932
CoRox's - IncuFan
The A-Roids - Jefe
Puff Batty - lefhooktodabody
RAES RAYS 09 - Raesaad
14-K - Kerrmilitary Man
TreezElite - kbpoetree
Kenny Powers - the fix
Lance the Lumberjack - Gringo

Help fill in the blanks....

That's everybody. 14-K and Trojans (UncleJ) have done the league the last three years now. The former is one of my best friends and the latter is his father.

That's everybody. 14-K and Trojans (UncleJ) have done the league the last three years now. The former is one of my best friends and the latter is his father.

Thanks, I have a feeling this list will come in handy down the road.



Alright now ****ers send me some proposals. I've been working my ass off trying to make some moves. It's fun to see the offers even if you don't like them...

Thanks, I have a feeling this list will come in handy down the road.



Alright now ****ers send me some proposals. I've been working my ass off trying to make some moves. It's fun to see the offers even if you don't like them...

Yeah I've been getting shot down in a serious way. I didn't know people had such strong ties to their BACKUP catchers. I can't seem to get Ianetta, Shoppach or Sandoval...not even a counter coming back. These ****ers won't budge an inch.

ive had a couple offers but i dont want to make any moves this early.

Yeah I've been getting shot down in a serious way. I didn't know people had such strong ties to their BACKUP catchers. I can't seem to get Ianetta, Shoppach or Sandoval...not even a counter coming back. These ****ers won't budge an inch.

I haven't gotten a trade offer or even a counter offer for one of my proposals, I made one for Ianetta and is was rejected within 5 minutes.

I expect when a couple pitchers go down early in the season someone will come knocking on my door.

Raesaad, I sent you an intriguing offer. Check it out...

I don't think I'm interested in giving up CC for pretty much anyone at this point.

Yeah I've been getting shot down in a serious way. I didn't know people had such strong ties to their BACKUP catchers. I can't seem to get Ianetta, Shoppach or Sandoval...not even a counter coming back. These ****ers won't budge an inch.

lolz. I've never carried 2 catchers before but have often wish I had. Also I think Ianetta will probably be the one I end up wanting to keep. I'm willing to deal one of them but not for Devine or Headley...sorry pal.

Alright Gringo I sent you an offer....take it or leave it ****er.:la:

Yeah I've been getting shot down in a serious way. I didn't know people had such strong ties to their BACKUP catchers. I can't seem to get Ianetta, Shoppach or Sandoval...not even a counter coming back. These ****ers won't budge an inch.
i wuz willing to give up Posada..but u went a diff route...and sorry Lince is not WAY better than Haren...but we will have to have the year to c...lol....every year is different by all means...if u can base off of last year i can base of off 2years prior..lol..but u know me gotta make it difficult

Alright Gringo I sent you an offer....take it or leave it ****er.:la:

It wasn't a bad deal, but I wouldn't trade a potential marquee RP for a guy I may not play all year.

I guess it just ain't meant to be. I'll wait for you to drop one of them.:luvbed:

i wuz willing to give up Posada..but u went a diff route...and sorry Lince is not WAY better than Haren...but we will have to have the year to c...lol....every year is different by all means...if u can base off of last year i can base of off 2years prior..lol..but u know me gotta make it difficult

Posada for what? Posada is coming off shoulder surgery and is at least 47 years old. I don't know if he's even worth a roster spot for me.

I'll have to focus on Sandoval and Shoppach.

It wasn't a bad deal, but I wouldn't trade a potential marquee RP for a guy I may not play all year.

I guess it just ain't meant to be. I'll wait for you to drop one of them.:luvbed:
lol....and thats the key..haha

anybody need some depth at 3b?


willing to move mora(.284 23 hr and 104 rbi) or mark reynolds(87 runs, 29 hr and 97 rbi)?


im looking for some depth at short, just in case aviles doesnt pan out. however, i dont want to move aviles, i think he can potentially have a great year.

lolz. I've never carried 2 catchers before but have often wish I had. Also I think Ianetta will probably be the one I end up wanting to keep. I'm willing to deal one of them but not for Devine or Headley...sorry pal.

It's alllllllllllllllllllllllllll good. I have a move in mind once I get a response from Jefe anyway.

Posada for what? Posada is coming off shoulder surgery and is at least 47 years old. I don't know if he's even worth a roster spot for me.

I'll have to focus on Sandoval and Shoppach.
do what u do...thats fine w me....cause healthy last year he wuz good for me...lol...i'm hopen tho McCann will b better i just wanted someone for the nights McCann had off....

do what u do...thats fine w me....cause healthy last year he wuz good for me...lol...i'm hopen tho McCann will b better i just wanted someone for the nights McCann had off....

McCann is solid. He's the only catcher I would have drafted earlier on.

anybody need some depth at 3b?


willing to move mora(.284 23 hr and 104 rbi) or mark reynolds(87 runs, 29 hr and 97 rbi)?


im looking for some depth at short, just in case aviles doesnt pan out. however, i dont want to move aviles, i think he can potentially have a great year.

Aviles was a hit machine last year. One of the better parts of my roster in the second half of our season in '08. I was hoping I'd get him again this year. He could definitely be a one hit wonder, but it's a risk you have to take. The Royals lineup is on the rise.

McCann is solid. He's the only catcher I would have drafted earlier on.
yeah i feel ya..and prob shouldnt have but if i remember right when i got him..wuznt much else i wanted to fill...lol...mainly since i did have Posada last year..when he got hurt it kinda f'ed me for a min...however Molina wuz decent enough of a pick up..then i usually got screwed by all his nights off...didnt want that to happpen this year wich is y i tried to grab a backup for all positions evenly

Aviles was a hit machine last year. One of the better parts of my roster in the second half of our season in '08. I was hoping I'd get him again this year. He could definitely be a one hit wonder, but it's a risk you have to take. The Royals lineup is on the rise.
i like the royals, if they can keep their core group of guys they could be pretty good in a couple years... they should keep the central very competitive this year....

Carpenter was in midseason form Wednesday, throwing six scoreless innings and getting one ground ball after another.
Recommendation: The only ball hit in the air was a foul popup to Albert Pujols. Carpenter is looking more and more like he's back to the old Carpenter. One note of caution: he only struck out two. With a few inexperienced infielders playing behind him, some of those grounders hit behind him will find the outfield.


uh oh boys. if carpenter is even 90% of what he was from '04-'06 i'm gonna be loving life. the ****in injury bug can make you or break you.

Carpenter was in midseason form Wednesday, throwing six scoreless innings and getting one ground ball after another.
Recommendation: The only ball hit in the air was a foul popup to Albert Pujols. Carpenter is looking more and more like he's back to the old Carpenter. One note of caution: he only struck out two. With a few inexperienced infielders playing behind him, some of those grounders hit behind him will find the outfield.


uh oh boys. if carpenter is even 90% of what he was from '04-'06 i'm gonna be loving life. the ****in injury bug can make you or break you.



They made us sweat it out tonight didn't they????


Do we have a trading block feature for out league? It would be nice if everyone had a place where they could post guys they are willing to part with and what they want in return. Or post if they don't want trade offers at all.

They made us sweat it out tonight didn't they????


Do we have a trading block feature for out league? It would be nice if everyone had a place where they could post guys they are willing to part with and what they want in return. Or post if they don't want trade offers at all.

**** I almost lost it at the end there. My blood pressure must have been through the roof. Thank god Manny converted that 3 point play. When Novak was shooting the back end of those two free throws I was nervous as hell. I just saw Memphis/Kansas all over again (although on a much more insignificant scale).

We do have a trading block feature. If you're on the league home page you can see it located next to the "transactions" tab, just below the "draft order" link.

**** I almost lost it at the end there. My blood pressure must have been through the roof. Thank god Manny converted that 3 point play. When Novak was shooting the back end of those two free throws I was nervous as hell. I just saw Memphis/Kansas all over again (although on a much more insignificant scale).

We do have a trading block feature. If you're on the league home page you can see it located next to the "transactions" tab, just below the "draft order" link.

Cool, I put some guys up on there, I see you did as well.

As for U-M, I can't imagine how they beat Oklahoma unless they can put 2 fouls on Griffin in the opening minute. Hopefully some recruits are watching and seeing how Manny is getting off within this offense and how good he looks in that maize and blue. He's gonna be one of the top-10 players in the country next year if he progresses anywhere near as much as he has since this time last year.

Cool, I put some guys up on there, I see you did as well.

As for U-M, I can't imagine how they beat Oklahoma unless they can put 2 fouls on Griffin in the opening minute. Hopefully some recruits are watching and seeing how Manny is getting off within this offense and how good he looks in that maize and blue. He's gonna be one of the top-10 players in the country next year if he progresses anywhere near as much as he has since this time last year.

Yeah. He still does a lot of little things that bother the shit out of me, dribbling from the left wing back to the center of the floor just so he can get off a shot/layup with his right hand, but otherwise he's moving right along. One thing that'll definitely improve is his consistency.

It's tough marching so many young players out there. There were so many glaring Freshman mistakes made tonight...it was tough. I actually thought Beilein did a terrible job of managing that game. Thank god they were having such a hard time from the outside for so long.

A TRUE point guard who can handle the ball will be the best thing for this basketball team. CJ Lee, Merritt, Douglass, Grady....none of them are capable of handling the rock and controlling the pace right now. Grady did a great job in that Duke game, but since then he has pretty much disappeared. Somebody needs to take the pressure off Manny Harris, somebody needs to be able to set up our offense quickly, somebody needs to manage pressure situations. LLP has a chance to be that guy, but I think he's more of a scoring/combo guard anyway.

Besides Manny, I thought Zach Gibson (of all people) had the next best game tonight. He played good defense, he rebounded well and he generally just hustled his ass off. I was happy about that. We NEED more than one solid big if we're going to do anything.

A TRUE point guard who can handle the ball will be the best thing for this basketball team. CJ Lee, Merritt, Douglass, Grady....none of them are capable of handling the rock and controlling the pace right now. Grady did a great job in that Duke game, but since then he has pretty much disappeared. Somebody needs to take the pressure off Manny Harris, somebody needs to be able to set up our offense quickly, somebody needs to manage pressure situations. LLP has a chance to be that guy, but I think he's more of a scoring/combo guard anyway.

The need for a point guard is just glaring. The people who have seen him play seem to think Darius Morris can come in and be that guy next year, but we will see. A couple of the radio homers around here were calling LLP comparable to Kalin Lucas after 2 or 3 games, thats just hilarious in hindsight.

It is funny how much guys shadow Manny to go left and he still goes right. That doesnt bother me nearly as much as how much he defers to other guys late in the shot clock or in late game situations.

They were in the bonus at 11:00 of the 2nd half tonight. Manny should have been attacking the basket for the rest of the game and picking up easy points on the line. Instead they put it on cruise control and damn near blew the game doing the same shit Clemson did to fall behind by 16.

The need for a point guard is just glaring. The people who have seen him play seem to think Darius Morris can come in and be that guy next year, but we will see. A couple of the radio homers around here were calling LLP comparable to Kalin Lucas after 2 or 3 games, thats just hilarious in hindsight.

It is funny how much guys shadow Manny to go left and he still goes right. That doesnt bother me nearly as much as how much he defers to other guys late in the shot clock or in late game situations.

They were in the bonus at 11:00 of the 2nd half tonight. Manny should have been attacking the basket for the rest of the game and picking up easy points on the line. Instead they put it on cruise control and damn near blew the game doing the same shit Clemson did to fall behind by 16.

My old HS basketball coach, who is now an assistant with Michigan, said that LLP is, "the college version of Derek Fisher". That was his best comparison. I don't know about all that, but LLP could be a good player in a couple of years. He's the only other player on the roster besides Manny who can consistently get to the hoop off the dribble if he wants to. The rest of these undersized wings are too small and aren't athletic enough to do it. I hope he'll realize that he can attack more with success. Manny too.

I really do blame Beilein for allowing Clemson to get as close as they got. He knows better than anyone that he's dealing with a ton of inexperienced players. He allowed them to dig themselves into a lot of holes though. He can't do anything about CJ Lee falling apart in the face of a full court trap, but he can do something about Stu Douglass jacking up 3's with 28 second left on the shot clock. Some of the units he put out there had no chemistry and I really felt like he didn't use Gibson enough. We needed to run clock, attack the basket and kill momentum. Instead, like you said, we coasted and allowed them to get back in it by hitting 3's and stopping the clock.

It wasn't a bad deal, but I wouldn't trade a potential marquee RP for a guy I may not play all year.

I guess it just ain't meant to be. I'll wait for you to drop one of them.:luvbed:

lolz.......:spank:

nice sonny.....you ****er.

nice sonny.....you ****er.

Yes, I love it. Sonny and trees get the hot stove cranked up with the first trade of the year. We rule!! Treez gets speed, Sonny gets power...

Mike Pelfrey, my 5th starter, goes 6 innings giving up 1 hit to lower his preseason ERA to 2.77. If this guy puts up numbers my pitching will be unstoppable.

In other pitching news, Linecum looked like shit with a fastball from 91-93 giving up 7 hits and walking 4 in 3 2/3.

Mike Pelfrey, my 5th starter, goes 6 innings giving up 1 hit to lower his preseason ERA to 2.77. If this guy puts up numbers my pitching will be unstoppable.

In other pitching news, Linecum looked like shit with a fastball from 91-93 giving up 7 hits and walking 4 in 3 2/3.

I just got off the phone with Tim. He said that all he was working on was getting the kinks out of his breaking ball. He also asked you, quite kindly in fact, to shut the **** up. :sombrero:

I just got off the phone with Tim. He said that all he was working on was getting the kinks out of his breaking ball. He also asked you, quite kindly in fact, to shut the **** up. :sombrero:



I'm just breaking your balls since you've been defending him in this thread for a few days.

For what it's worth I agree that Lince shits on Haren.

Rae offered me Molina, but the price was too high. I am gonna roll with Inge for the first few weeks and see what happens.

Things are shaping up nicely for me in relation to my risky pickups. It looks like Clint Barmes is gonna play 150 games for Colorado. Wedge says that Hafner will be in the lineup everyday, which means he should accidentally hit 25 HRs. Sheffield has been playing good and should also be playing nearly everyday. Corpas will beat out Street. Verlander has been pitching well.

Start the damn season already!

I'm just breaking your balls since you've been defending him in this thread for a few days.

For what it's worth I agree that Lince shits on Haren.

Rae offered me Molina, but the price was too high. I am gonna roll with Inge for the first few weeks and see what happens.

Things are shaping up nicely for me in relation to my risky pickups. It looks like Clint Barmes is gonna play 150 games for Colorado. Wedge says that Hafner will be in the lineup everyday, which means he should accidentally hit 25 HRs. Sheffield has been playing good and should also be playing nearly everyday. Corpas will beat out Street. Verlander has been pitching well.

Start the damn season already!

It's a long, long season but I feel ya. Maybin has been killing it this spring and CC had a very solid outing the other day. Everyday catchers are harder to come by than closers once the season gets rolling, but I understand where you're coming from. I just sent you another offer that will help us both in needed areas.....He's not a "superstar" OF but he's very solid and should thrive this season with his new team.....well first full season with new team anyway. Feel free to counter instead of just decline. I'll work with you. Let me know when you've decided on your bullpen. I really need a closer badly and until the first few weeks of the season get going and heads start rolling I may not be able to find any on the wire.

Feel free to counter instead of just decline. I'll work with you. Let me know when you've decided on your bullpen. I really need a closer badly and until the first few weeks of the season get going and heads start rolling I may not be able to find any on the wire.


I declined your offer but I didn't counter at the moment.

I can't afford to trade Huff until A-Rod is back, especially with Konerko being injury prone at 1st.

I won't trade Huff for an Xavier Nady type either, it has to be a proven commodity. Huff has put up 30HRS w/ 100RBIs and a .300 average 3 times now, with a 3rd base qualification he is more valuable to me than just about every outfielder.

It's gonna be hard for anyone to give me a trade I will accept. To be honest I am really happy with my team and don't see any glaring weaknesses.

I declined your offer but I didn't counter at the moment.

I can't afford to trade Huff until A-Rod is back, especially with Konerko being injury prone at 1st.

I won't trade Huff for an Xavier Nady type either, it has to be a proven commodity. Huff has put up 30HRS w/ 100RBIs and a .300 average 3 times now, with a 3rd base qualification he is more valuable to me than just about every outfielder.

It's gonna be hard for anyone to give me a trade I will accept. To be honest I am really happy with my team and don't see any glaring weaknesses.

I hear ya, sounds good. I need to off and OF or two. I'm not going to worry about too much for a few weeks tho....you never know how things are going to pan out with injuries and starters and all that shit anyway. I personally think Nady will end up with a better season than Huff but I defintely see your point about the position.

I hear ya, sounds good. I need to off and OF or two. I'm not going to worry about too much for a few weeks tho....you never know how things are going to pan out with injuries and starters and all that shit anyway. I personally think Nady will end up with a better season than Huff but I defintely see your point about the position.

My problem with Nady is he hit 60 points lower after coming to NY last year. If he struggles at all the notoriously impatient Yankees will start working Swisher into the lineup everytime there is a right handed starter.

Yes, I love it. Sonny and trees get the hot stove cranked up with the first trade of the year. We rule!! Treez gets speed, Sonny gets power...
helllz yeahhhz

helllz yeahhhz

This is the year Damon gets old as shit, hits .230, and gets benched.

This is the year Damon gets old as shit, hits .230, and gets benched.
LOL...its actually very likely to happen actually no arguments there..or get traded...but Dye could end up in same boat...i'm not really counten on gr8ness...jus a few steals a week and a decent BA

This is the year Damon gets old as shit, hits .230, and gets benched.

I could easily see that happening as well. At least Dye will certainly hit 20+ HR and 80+ RBI even if he has a terrible year.....which I doubt he will. But you never know....Damon may not be shot yet.

Lefty I sent you an offer.....I was bored and just want to make a trade. I have an itch. I nned some SB and a stud closer. I offered you some good power in exchange.

Damon isn't shot you jackasses. He's the leadoff hitter for the most potent offense in the majors. Damon has been as consistent as any player in the majors over the last 10-11 years.

Yeah I think Damon is solid as well. Didn't think people would say he's shot. Sure he's not as good as he was in Oakland but he's gonna be on the best offense this year. He should score a lot of runs and snag bases.

Yeah I think Damon is solid as well. Didn't think people would say he's shot. Sure he's not as good as he was in Oakland but he's gonna be on the best offense this year. He should score a lot of runs and snag bases.

Really Dye has been a lot more inconsistent over the course of his career. Hopefully he comes through this year...

Yeah I think Damon is solid as well. Didn't think people would say he's shot. Sure he's not as good as he was in Oakland but he's gonna be on the best offense this year. He should score a lot of runs and snag bases.
i'm def hopen so...lol.....both players are older..both have proved themselves...i considered this a safe trade for both getting what we wanted....i'm counten on Bruce to hit 30 this year...lol....and Cameron to b back on top so wuznt concerned with keeping Dye

I'm just breaking your balls since you've been defending him in this thread for a few days.

For what it's worth I agree that Lince shits on Haren.

Rae offered me Molina, but the price was too high. I am gonna roll with Inge for the first few weeks and see what happens.

Things are shaping up nicely for me in relation to my risky pickups. It looks like Clint Barmes is gonna play 150 games for Colorado. Wedge says that Hafner will be in the lineup everyday, which means he should accidentally hit 25 HRs. Sheffield has been playing good and should also be playing nearly everyday. Corpas will beat out Street. Verlander has been pitching well.

Start the damn season already!
Hitman...i'm assuming that mayb u are considering my offer? looks like u've been on and havnt denied it yet..lol...jus curious

Hitman...i'm assuming that mayb u are considering my offer? looks like u've been on and havnt denied it yet..lol...jus curious

I've been thinking about it, but I'm 99% sure not gonna accept. I figured you were probably shopping your catchers and would pull it if you had something else.

I may be interested if Inge really stinks it up start the season, but as it stands I actually kinda want to let it play out because if he can hit .250 w/ 20HRs and get a couple 3B and SB that other catchers wont I will be happy to go without a move. He wont have to catch at all this year, I think that alone will help his hitting.

I've been thinking about it, but I'm 99% sure not gonna accept. I figured you were probably shopping your catchers and would pull it if you had something else.

I may be interested if Inge really stinks it up start the season, but as it stands I actually kinda want to let it play out because if he can hit .250 w/ 20HRs and get a couple 3B and SB that other catchers wont I will be happy to go without a move. He wont have to catch at all this year, I think that alone will help his hitting.
i got ya...i jus saw ur trade block stuff and thought mayb i could help while getten a lil myself....long tho as u dont say Posada jus sux...i'm fine...lol...but i'm perfectly happy keeping him as well..so ur call obviously..haha i'm jus ready to start...lol

Got back from my live draft weekend extravaganza. I don't think I've partied that hard since I graduated. We started drinking at 11am, had our draft at 4:30pm, partied till 3:30am. Complete shit show. I made it out with a pretty solid team though. I was pretty happy with my draft (I had 5th pick).

Kelly Shoppach
Justin Morneau
Dustin Pedroia
Miguel Cabrera
Stephen Drew
Nick Markakis
Matt Kemp
Hunter Pence
Jay Bruce
Denard Span
Mike Aviles
Edwin Encarnacion

Chad Billingsley
Ricky Nolasco
Joakim Soria
Heath Bell
Joba Chamberlain
Josh Johnson
Joel Hanrahan
Mike Pelfrey
Mark Buerhle

My offense is pretty hardcore...deep bench too. I'm hoping those Marlins pitchers come through for me. Joba needs to kick ass this year too...I have him in both leagues.

Got back from my live draft weekend extravaganza. I don't think I've partied that hard since I graduated. We started drinking at 11am, had our draft at 4:30pm, partied till 3:30am. Complete shit show. I made it out with a pretty solid team though. I was pretty happy with my draft (I had 5th pick).

Kelly Shoppach
Justin Morneau
Dustin Pedroia
Miguel Cabrera
Stephen Drew
Nick Markakis
Matt Kemp
Hunter Pence
Jay Bruce
Denard Span
Mike Aviles
Edwin Encarnacion

Chad Billingsley
Ricky Nolasco
Joakim Soria
Heath Bell
Joba Chamberlain
Josh Johnson
Joel Hanrahan
Mike Pelfrey
Mark Buerhle

My offense is pretty hardcore...deep bench too. I'm hoping those Marlins pitchers come through for me. Joba needs to kick ass this year too...I have him in both leagues.
bold gives me confidence.

bold gives me confidence.

I would have easily taken all of those guys in our draft had they been around at the right time. Nolasco is supposed to be having a good spring so that eases my concern that he's a one year wonder.

Spring training means nothing...

Spring training means nothing...

Your numbers don't necessarily mean anything, but health, mechanics and velocity all do. "Eases" was the keyword.

Treez & Jefe

TRADES ARE ON THE TABLE!!!!!!

Tree, I feel like that's a pretty straight up and down 1 for 1. Especially considering you need starting pitching and already have good options at 1st and 2nd base.

Jefe, I need steals...you need a solid #1 pitcher. I threw two very talented OF options back at you to keep you afloat there.

Your numbers don't necessarily mean anything, but health, mechanics and velocity all do. "Eases" was the keyword.

My comment makes it look like I was bashing Nolasco. That really wasn't my intent. I think Ricky will be fine. Your overall pitching staff looks a bit weak though. Offensively though, you are very solid...

My comment makes it look like I was bashing Nolasco. That really wasn't my intent. I think Ricky will be fine. Your overall pitching staff looks a bit weak though. Offensively though, you are very solid...

Yeah...there was a run on pitchers (Lince, Johan, CC, Webb, Halladay, Peavy all going within 16 picks of each other) so I decided to wait instead of reaching on someone like Peavy early in the 3rd round.

Joba the Hutt needs to be a force.

Yeah...there was a run on pitchers (Lince, Johan, CC, Webb, Halladay, Peavy all going within 16 picks of each other) so I decided to wait instead of reaching on someone like Peavy early in the 3rd round.

Joba the Hutt needs to be a force.

If he is, the Yankees will be very hard to beat...

Joba the Hutt needs to be a force.



Honestly if I had Chamberlain on my squad I would be a bit apprehensive. The Yankess bullpen is mostly unproven aside from Rivera. Pretty much all of them average 4-6 BB/9 innings. If they start blowing leads before they can get the ball to Rivera the quick and easy fix will be to move Hughes into the rotation and put Joba back into the bullpen.

Chamberlain is already off on the wrong foot with his DUI case.

In unrelated news The Nationals named Milledge their leadoff hitter today. Bump his steals up to 35+ and his runs scored to 85+.

Honestly if I had Chamberlain on my squad I would be a bit apprehensive. The Yankess bullpen is mostly unproven aside from Rivera. Pretty much all of them average 4-6 BB/9 innings. If they start blowing leads before they can get the ball to Rivera the quick and easy fix will be to move Hughes into the rotation and put Joba back into the bullpen.

Chamberlain is already off on the wrong foot with his DUI case.

In unrelated news The Nationals named Milledge their leadoff hitter today. Bump his steals up to 35+ and his runs scored to 85+.

Things unrelated to baseball like that don't bother me. If he shoots himself in the leg or kills a woman with his car I'll start to worry.

I'm ready to earn my 3rd championship in 4 years with fat Joba (hopefully) getting me 12-14 wins, 180+ k's and a low 3 era.

I'm ready to earn my 3rd championship in 4 years with fat Joba (hopefully) getting me 12-14 wins, 180+ k's and a low 3 era.

So long as he stays in the rotation id say the wins and K's are a given. The ERA may creep up around 4 with 160-180 innings on the arm for the 1st time.

I'm not just bustin your chops about him going to the bullpen either, I think the Yankees are a better team with him there. He is a legit 2 inning setup man who can do it on back to back days. With Chamberlain in the pen all they need are 6 innings out of Pettite, Wang and Hughes and then the ball goes to Joba in the 7th and Rivera in the 9th and it's game over.

When the Tigers were so good it was because they could go Rodney, Zumaya, Jones and the game was over. Chamberlain is like Rodney and Zumaya rolled into one when he pitches out of the pen.

So long as he stays in the rotation id say the wins and K's are a given. The ERA may creep up around 4 with 160-180 innings on the arm for the 1st time.

I'm not just bustin your chops about him going to the bullpen either, I think the Yankees are a better team with him there. He is a legit 2 inning setup man who can do it on back to back days. With Chamberlain in the pen all they need are 6 innings out of Pettite, Wang and Hughes and then the ball goes to Joba in the 7th and Rivera in the 9th and it's game over.

When the Tigers were so good it was because they could go Rodney, Zumaya, Jones and the game was over. Chamberlain is like Rodney and Zumaya rolled into one when he pitches out of the pen.

No I absolutely agree with you. Chamberlain in the pen is easy. I have a feeling he'll be floating around a bit this year. He's easily the best set-up guy they have (even though that's not his natural role), he could be a great 5th starter and he's 1st in line to close if Rivera goes down with injury. I'm think a realistic line for him is:

10 W
4 L
6 SV
160 K
3.25 ERA
1.20 WHIP

If I get that I'll be okay in our league because I have 4 other arms with huge upside. Carpenter, Scherzer, Maholm and Johnny Danks all have great potential. Danks has proven it. Carpenter has proven it when healthy. Maholm and Scherzer are pure speculation, but Maholm looks like he's trending up.

Oh and Fernando Rodney sucks btw....and Joel Zumaya is a puss. **** the Tigers. :omfg::luvbed:

Oh and Fernando Rodney sucks btw....and Joel Zumaya is a puss. **** the Tigers. :omfg::luvbed:

I'm convinced Zumaya's injuries are all from partying too hard and falling down awkwardly. Rodney sucks, but he still has fantasy value.....

Gary Sheffield will rise again. I am calling a 25/20 season right now. He is ripping the cover of the ball in spring training and he is normally a slow starter.

I'm convinced Zumaya's injuries are all from partying too hard and falling down awkwardly. Rodney sucks, but he still has fantasy value.....

Gary Sheffield will rise again. I am calling a 25/20 season right now. He is ripping the cover of the ball in spring training and he is normally a slow starter.

Zumaya was good. The guy will never be the same again. Same with Dontrelle. I equate Dontrelle to Vince Young and Jeff Lacy. All had a ton of talent but flawed mechanics. They all have 0 confidence now.

You think Sheff can still swipe bases? He's a dino.

Oh and Fernando Rodney sucks btw....and Joel Zumaya is a puss. **** the Tigers. :omfg::luvbed:

Zumaya got me booted from a Rays game two seasons ago. I was on a rampage that night all coked up and drunk and I told him he blows and the tigers were gonna choke like The Bills always did in the super bowl....I was right behind the bullpen and he started snickering back at me.....so I told him I sniffed his wifes panty drawer and he flipped a lid....saying he would fight me and then I got the boot by two nice Police officers. They said you can say whatever you want but families were off limits.....oh well. They went on to lose the World Series just like I predicted tho...lol

Zumaya got me booted from a Rays game two seasons ago. I was on a rampage that night all coked up and drunk and I told him he blows and the tigers were gonna choke like The Bills always did in the super bowl....


Zumaya probably isn't even old enough to remember Scott Norwood. Or as I like to call him, "The unluckiest bastard who ever walked the Earth"

Maybe he will make a monumental Frank Reich comeback this season and end up winning the Cy Young Buffalo Bill's style.

Zumaya got me booted from a Rays game two seasons ago. I was on a rampage that night all coked up and drunk and I told him he blows and the tigers were gonna choke like The Bills always did in the super bowl....I was right behind the bullpen and he started snickering back at me.....so I told him I sniffed his wifes panty drawer and he flipped a lid....saying he would fight me and then I got the boot by two nice Police officers. They said you can say whatever you want but families were off limits.....oh well. They went on to lose the World Series just like I predicted tho...lol

:lol1:

My roommate rented a badass 60 inch TV for our house to watch the world series that year. When the Tigs got swept out it killed him...and he wasted that money when he could have spent it on booze/drugs to drown his sorrows. Pretty funny shit.

I bought him one of these -

http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pACE3-4958290reg.jpg

promptly afterward....just to crush his soul.

Bottom line is....I wanna fight Joel Zumaya. And If his wife is hawt, I'll fight or wrestle with her too.

You think Sheff can still swipe bases? He's a dino.

Sheff is still one of the smartest baserunners in the league and he takes a lot of pride in swiping bases still. He stole 22 of them the year before last and he had lingering injuries all year.

He is so competitive that when he doesn't hit for power he feels compelled to contribute some other way. It's just his mentality, the years dont matter so much as long as he is healthy. Sheffield is a gamer.

If he plays 140 games he steals 20 bases without getting caught more than 5 times.

It's my bold prediticion for the year. It's not bad, Tim Legler's bold prediction a few years back was Bosh winning the Rookie Of The Year over Lebron, Wade and Carmelo.

My comment makes it look like I was bashing Nolasco. That really wasn't my intent. I think Ricky will be fine. Your overall pitching staff looks a bit weak though. Offensively though, you are very solid...
yeah but i dont have a backup 2nd baseman at all...and i need to hold on to one decent to good one for sure...jus in case Phillips re injures his finger or somethin i'm not sayen the offer isnt legit....but i've never heard of Scherzer before..lol..and his 0-4 record dont help..however i realize thats jus bs from last year...i cant accept tho i actually feel my pitching is fine...i def tho dont need another pitcher that may or may not produce..lol...i'd need more of a guaranteed pitcher even tho there really isnt such a thing

yeah but i dont have a backup 2nd baseman at all...and i need to hold on to one decent to good one for sure...jus in case Phillips re injures his finger or somethin i'm not sayen the offer isnt legit....but i've never heard of Scherzer before..lol..and his 0-4 record dont help..however i realize thats jus bs from last year...i cant accept tho i actually feel my pitching is fine...i def tho dont need another pitcher that may or may not produce..lol...i'd need more of a guaranteed pitcher even tho there really isnt such a thing

You must be talking to gringo or somebody else. I don't have Scherzer.

I like the trade we made. I can't wait for the season to start and see how my team does. Puff batty should be a good test in week 1.

Yeah lucky me, I get Gringo yet again in week 1. He beat me 15-1 in the first week 2 years ago....My rookie season. I think things will be different this time around.

Yeah lucky me, I get Gringo yet again in week 1. He beat me 15-1 in the first week 2 years ago....My rookie season. I think things will be different this time around.

AWWWW YEAH!

I just want to the season to start. If drafting is the very best part of the year, then seeing how your players start out the season is the next best part.

You must be talking to gringo or somebody else. I don't have Scherzer.

I like the trade we made. I can't wait for the season to start and see how my team does. Puff batty should be a good test in week 1.

Yeah...I offered Scherzer for Jose Lopez. No dice though.

Yeah lucky me, I get Gringo yet again in week 1. He beat me 15-1 in the first week 2 years ago....My rookie season. I think things will be different this time around.

i hope he rapes you mentally.

Yeah lucky me, I get Gringo yet again in week 1. He beat me 15-1 in the first week 2 years ago....My rookie season. I think things will be different this time around.


It should be pretty close, but Gringo could dominate in pitching stats.

i hope he rapes you mentally.
**** you teh prix. We should support each other against this tycoon, not hold each other back...where's the love?:luvbed:
It should be pretty close, but Gringo could dominate in pitching stats.

I think my starting pitching should be ok but I'm defintely hurting in the bullpen.

Proposal sent to hitman932.

Proposal sent to hitman932.

I wouldn't even trade Beckett for Santana straight up.

My guy has a 1.50 spring ERA, Santana is playing long toss.

I wouldn't even trade Beckett for Santana straight up.

My guy has a 1.50 spring ERA, Santana is playing long toss.

It's a long season which doesn't even get started for another 2 weeks...

It's a long season which doesn't even get started for another 2 weeks...

Already have A-Rod on the pine for a month, can't have a SP there along with him.

Already have A-Rod on the pine for a month, can't have a SP there along with him.

Santana will only miss a start or 2...

Santana will only miss a start or 2...

you must think I am a real sucker.


FROM ESPN.COM

Scioscia says that, despite knowing full well that 16-game winner Ervin Santana might need an elbow operation come the middle of the season. For now, Dr. Lewis Yocum says the strained ligaments in his right elbow shouldn't keep him from pitching. So the Angels optimistically believe the 26-year-old Santana can be back in May


Optimistically in May...

That means he misses a month minimum, which is 4-5 starts in the best case scenario with his own manager openly saying they may need to sit him down halfway through.

There are only 2 kinds of starting pitchers in mlb. Those that are injured, and those that aren't injured...yet!

Santana will be fine. My team, especially the pitching staff, is built for the playoffs. We can compare stats at the end of the season and see who the sucker was...

just snagged kendry morales, who should have 1B/OF eligibility this year. he's batting 5th in the angels lineup and has been busting the cover off the ball this spring. hermida and his hype gets the boot.

i hope this wieters **** lives up to the hype.

Ankiel homered for the second day in a row Friday.
Recommendation: With Ryan Ludwick struggling this spring, Ankiel has a very good chance at opening the season as the St. Louis cleanup hitter.


that's right saad. ankiel > ludwick

Carpenter continued his strong spring with five more innings on Monday, throwing a spring-high 76 pitches and striking out six and walking none.
Recommendation: Carpenter gave up his first two runs of the spring, but they were unearned, meaning he has a sparkling 0.00 ERA in 19 innings this spring. The strikeouts were a nice addition, as he had only four strikeouts all spring going into the game. "This is the best I’ve felt since I’ve been down here," Carpenter said after the game. He looks ready.

Fear my rotation ladies. Fear it.

Santana will be fine. My team, especially the pitching staff, is built for the playoffs. We can compare stats at the end of the season and see who the sucker was...

Yeah we can. If Santana misses 5-6 starts (minimum) and puts up more K's and W's than Beckett I will enjoy watching the pigs fly out of my butt.

Both guys you offered me are a full 9 spots below the guys you want in return in the fantasy rankings.

Yeah we can. If Santana misses 5-6 starts (minimum) and puts up more K's and W's than Beckett I will enjoy watching the pigs fly out of my butt.

Both guys you offered me are a full 9 spots below the guys you want in return in the fantasy rankings.

:nono: stfu. There's no crying in baseball...:439:

Ankiel homered for the second day in a row Friday.
Recommendation: With Ryan Ludwick struggling this spring, Ankiel has a very good chance at opening the season as the St. Louis cleanup hitter.


that's right saad. ankiel > ludwick

Ludwick has been hitting the ball well the past week....they just mean overall this spring. ****off...we'll see.

i picked up wieters in another league... all the hype iam hearing, i had to.

in other news Cole Hamels and Justin Duchsherer are going to be fine.... both guys are ready in April.

i really like my pitching. hamels, hernandez, nathan, sherrill, volquez, nolasco, carmona, arroyo, balfour and duchsherer.

Can this shit get started already.....The anticipation is killing me.

I got Lance on the block for a 2B or OF if anyone is interested...

I got Lance on the block for a 2B or OF if anyone is interested...

I'll give you Uggla for him.....

I got Lance on the block for a 2B or OF if anyone is interested...


Proposal sent...

Proposal sent...

Ditto.....

Wow Rae! That is a good offer. I thought I would get all low ball offers like the one from Syd but that one is good. Give me a minute...

Ah a trade in the midst.

I have a lot of people on the table. I really want to add another impact outfielder. Jefe I offered you a trade. You need pitching, I could use more offense...lets make it happen.

Wow Rae! That is a good offer. I thought I would get all low ball offers like the one from Syd but that one is good. Give me a minute...

Don't insult me. Lance is a nice player, but he's a 2nd level 1st baseman. He's available into the 3rd-4th rounds in most leagues. I offered what you asked for. You don't like it fine. How about trying proposing a trdae yourself instead of criticising others.

So what id this so called "good offer" from Rae? I don't see it on the board so I guess it wasn't good enough to accept...

Wow Rae! That is a good offer. I thought I would get all low ball offers like the one from Syd but that one is good. Give me a minute...

I think it is fair, glad you see it the same. Now it's a matter of if you roll the dice. I feel I rolled em by offering it, trust me I looked at it and thought about it just like you are.....hope to do business with you, if you see a better wayof making it work counter me.

Don't insult me. Lance is a nice player, but he's a 2nd level 1st baseman. He's available into the 3rd-4th rounds in most leagues. I offered what you asked for. You don't like it fine. How about trying proposing a trdae yourself instead of criticising others.

So what id this so called "good offer" from Rae? I don't see it on the board so I guess it wasn't good enough to accept...

lolz.....did you offer him Mariano Rivera for Berkman? lolz:moon:

Let's see some trades mother****ers!

Fairpole, are you considering my offer for Berkman? It has been up for 2 days now.

Let's see some trades mother****ers!
I'm trying.....
Fairpole, are you considering my offer for Berkman? It has been up for 2 days now.

He's been looking at my offer for a couple of days now too.....I think what I sent him is very fair and hope he accepts before I change my mind.....

You're all gay except Treez and I...

You're all gay except Treez and I...
and i'll def 2nd that...haha

You're all very cool and admirable except Treez and I....we're turd burglars :friday:

:sad6: No shit.....

I'm trying.....


He's been looking at my offer for a couple of days now too.....I think what I sent him is very fair and hope he accepts before I change my mind.....

I'm hoping mine is better...

If he accepts I would have an Infield of Berkman-Perdoia-Ramirez-A-Rod with Aubrey Huff as my IF flex.

I'm hoping mine is better...

If he accepts I would have an Infield of Berkman-Perdoia-Ramirez-A-Rod with Aubrey Huff as my IF flex.

If he accepts I'll have to move Alexi to 2nd and plug in Escobar at SS but I'll have Berkman at the IF spot and Sizmore in the OF.....but Rios and Nady would both be gone. I sent him a good offer for both of us.....

Don't insult me. Lance is a nice player, but he's a 2nd level 1st baseman. He's available into the 3rd-4th rounds in most leagues. I offered what you asked for. You don't like it fine. How about trying proposing a trdae yourself instead of criticising others.

So what id this so called "good offer" from Rae? I don't see it on the board so I guess it wasn't good enough to accept...

Settle down Sydney, its all in good fun. Rae offered me Uggla, Rios, and Nady for Berkman and Sizemore. You offered me "out for who knows how long" Santana and McLouth for Berkman and Billingsly. I want outfield and 2b. I would rather have a top 2b to be honest. I offered Hitman Berkman and Kazuo Matsui for Pedroia and Broke Back Helton and he countered with Weeks and Hunter for Berkman alone. Raes' offer tko1 your guys'! My trade to hitman was fair and pretty even numbers wise, actually slightly in his favor. The only problem with the trade with Rae is I'm giving up my 2 best players for 3 good players. Thats if Nady was more than a fluke last year...

Settle down Sydney, its all in good fun. Rae offered me Uggla, Rios, and Nady for Berkman and Sizemore. You offered me "out for who knows how long" Santana and McLouth for Berkman and Billingsly. I want outfield and 2b. I would rather have a top 2b to be honest. I offered Hitman Berkman and Kazuo Matsui for Pedroia and Broke Back Helton and he countered with Weeks and Hunter for Berkman alone. Raes' offer tko1 your guys'! My trade to hitman was fair and pretty even numbers wise, actually slightly in his favor. The only problem with the trade with Rae is I'm giving up my 2 best players for 3 good players. Thats if Nady was more than a fluke last year...

Rios will be a great player this season....I really don't even want to let him go but I love Sizemore.....Accept his avg sucks for a leadoff hitter. Uggla should have similar numbers to last season. I don't see how Nady can't do well in that lineup but ya never know. It's why we play the game. I'm not so sure Berkman will have the season he did last but I'd be willing to roll the dice on it. Well let me know....the offer stands unless I get drunk tonight and change my mind. It took me about 10 minutes of staring right at it to pull the trigger and make the offer in the first place....lol

Settle down Sydney, its all in good fun. Rae offered me Uggla, Rios, and Nady for Berkman and Sizemore. You offered me "out for who knows how long" Santana and McLouth for Berkman and Billingsly. I want outfield and 2b. I would rather have a top 2b to be honest. I offered Hitman Berkman and Kazuo Matsui for Pedroia and Broke Back Helton and he countered with Weeks and Hunter for Berkman alone. Raes' offer tko1 your guys'! My trade to hitman was fair and pretty even numbers wise, actually slightly in his favor. The only problem with the trade with Rae is I'm giving up my 2 best players for 3 good players. Thats if Nady was more than a fluke last year...

oh yeah and there is no doubt about that now that I see what they offered. I at least laid some lumber out there......Balls Sonny and Hitman....grow em...lol j/k:luvbed:

Wainwirght declares himself "ready to rock" after a 8k 5 1/3 inning performance......Good news for my staff. Harden pitched 4 scoreless recently.....Bedard hasn't hurt himself this spring.....I just might be OK, Kuroda has been great this spring also. I still need a closer though. Percival is not going to cut it and I don't even know if the Cards have decided who their closer will be so Motte may be useless.

I may have changed my mind...Is a spot still open?

I may have changed my mind...Is a spot still open?

Nope, draft is done. Game over for you playa......:boxing:

Nope, draft is done. Game over for you playa......:boxing:
well..see yall next season..

Settle down Sydney, its all in good fun. Rae offered me Uggla, Rios, and Nady for Berkman and Sizemore.


My trade to hitman was fair and pretty even numbers wise, actually slightly in his favor.

Sydney is just mad he's been called a cheapskate twice now.

As for your offer to me it wasn't really in my favor at all if you consider that I have Weeks who is better than Matsui. Your offer was in essence Berkman for Pedroia and Helton because I wouldnt even play Matsui ahead of Ricki Weeks.

In fact if I had Matsui now I would drop him.

You ****ers need to plan what you're gonna be doing to get that one bye week spot because you already know I have one of them sewn up.

You ****ers need to plan what you're gonna be doing to get that one bye week spot because you already know I have one of them sewn up.

I predict a 6th seed for you this season Gringo....lol

I don't know how you do it but you're always at or near the top. Do you crunch the numbers somehow and play the odds or what?

Sydney is just mad he's been called a cheapskate twice now.

As for your offer to me it wasn't really in my favor at all if you consider that I have Weeks who is better than Matsui. Your offer was in essence Berkman for Pedroia and Helton because I wouldnt even play Matsui ahead of Ricki Weeks.

In fact if I had Matsui now I would drop him.

lol, I hear a lot of talk from everybody but no action except from Treez and I.

I stand by the above contention. You're all gay...:blowjob:

I predict a 6th seed for you this season Gringo....lol

I don't know how you do it but you're always at or near the top. Do you crunch the numbers somehow and play the odds or what?

Nope...I dunno what it is. I've been getting lucky lately.

Fairpole, Blockbuster on the table. The key components are Johan Santana and Matt Holliday for Berkman and Sizemore....Huge Baby!!!

lol, I hear a lot of talk from everybody but no action except from Treez and I.

I stand by the above contention. You're all gay...:blowjob:
and i'll again 2nd that..i wuz the first trade in both leagues...lol..even tho the one may b worthless...my team must b lame i've had no offers..i may have sent some but i'm not in gr8 spot now...i cant even get outta the house i'm in w all the snow..but hey they finally got internet out here..amazing

Fairpole, Blockbuster on the table. The key components are Johan Santana and Matt Holliday for Berkman and Sizemore....Huge Baby!!!

Johan and Holliday for Berks and Sizemore would be a blockbuster. That's the kind of trading I like to see.

MOVING WHALES!!!!!

Saad, I went back at you with another piece in that deal. I see it this way...

I don't like the original two straight up because I'm giving you a starting reliever for a guy who isn't an every day starter (and that position is traditionally an overvalued position anyway). I know my reliever isn't exactly proven, but you can afford to drop a catcher more than I can afford to drop my third reliever.

I put the other guy in that deal because he is one of my very favorite players in the league and he has upside. I threw you a player back who I drafted pretty high and had some potential himself. I don't even necessarily think the player I requested from you is going to outperform my player, I'd just rather have him on my team. If we go by last year only, the stats are pretty nice in your favor.

That's where I stand.

Saad, I went back at you with another piece in that deal. I see it this way...

I don't like the original two straight up because I'm giving you a starting reliever for a guy who isn't an every day starter (and that position is traditionally an overvalued position anyway). I know my reliever isn't exactly proven, but you can afford to drop a catcher more than I can afford to drop my third reliever.

I put the other guy in that deal because he is one of my very favorite players in the league and he has upside. I threw you a player back who I drafted pretty high and had some potential himself. I don't even necessarily think the player I requested from you is going to outperform my player, I'd just rather have him on my team. If we go by last year only, the stats are pretty nice in your favor.

That's where I stand.
Ramirez will have a better year than Drew more than likely....plus he steals bases and plays multiple positions. Bengie is an everyday starter and catcher is not overvalued there are only 10 or so even worth a shit and he happens to be one of them. I countered you with an offer thats in your favor IMO but I need another IF so I wait and see what you think.

I'll be a little salty if Fairole accepts the offer it appears Sonny sent for Sizemore and Berkman.....I really want Sizemore again this year and think the offer I sent him was better....but it's up to him. In fact I'm going to send him another offer right now to get Sizemore.

Ramirez will have a better year than Drew more than likely....plus he steals bases and plays multiple positions. Bengie is an everyday starter and catcher is not overvalued there are only 10 or so even worth a shit and he happens to be one of them. I countered you with an offer thats in your favor IMO but I need another IF so I wait and see what you think.

I'll be a little salty if Fairole accepts the offer it appears Sonny sent for Sizemore and Berkman.....I really want Sizemore again this year and think the offer I sent him was better....but it's up to him. In fact I'm going to send him another offer right now to get Sizemore.

Yeah had to leave it. Nady is an above average OF, but Gonzalez is a stud. Look at Nady's splits and his history and tell me how that's even remotely in my favor. Adrian Gonzalez is the best player in that trade by far.

Alexei is a great prospect and does many things well, but he isn't clearly better than Drew. In fact, he was outperformed by Drew last year and may be outperformed by him again this year. Drew is batting 3rd!!! in the potentially stacked D-Backs lineup. He's entering his prime and those numbers from last year are going to look better this year. The same is true with Alexei I'm sure. Alexei's multiple position eligibility if nice, but I only generally find that useful if I'm using the player off the bench to (potentially) fill one of many spots on an off day. It's not such a big deal to me as far as every day players go. Alexei won't be swiping more than 20 bags this year and you already look very thin in that category. Unless you constantly play Maybin (and he lives up to the hype) is looks like you already have 1 throw away category...with your lack of closers you might have 2.

I say catchers are overvalued because their numbers rarely exceed other players they are taken before. You took Molina before Abreu and Ibanez. The base difference between your catcher (46/16/95/.292) and the one I'm using (37/7/56/.304) isn't so significant when you think about the number of at bats and everything else. Or look at Molina and a guy sitting in the free agent pool - Chris Snyder. Snyder is the every day catcher in Zona. He had just as many home runs as Molina in 200 fewer ABs. He had 2/3 of Bengie's RBI. Seeing as how you have 2 guys ready to plug in to those catcher spots, I can't bring myself to provide you any more sweetener in that deal besides a bench option possibly.

Ramirez will have a better year than Drew more than likely....plus he steals bases and plays multiple positions. Bengie is an everyday starter and catcher is not overvalued there are only 10 or so even worth a shit and he happens to be one of them. I countered you with an offer thats in your favor IMO but I need another IF so I wait and see what you think.

I'll be a little salty if Fairole accepts the offer it appears Sonny sent for Sizemore and Berkman.....I really want Sizemore again this year and think the offer I sent him was better....but it's up to him. In fact I'm going to send him another offer right now to get Sizemore.

Pablo Sandoval is going to spell Bengie every so often. I dunno if Bengie will get the same amount of ABs this year. He very well may, but I think the upcoming super utility will take a few of those.

Yeah had to leave it. Nady is an above average OF, but Gonzalez is a stud. Look at Nady's splits and his history and tell me how that's even remotely in my favor. Adrian Gonzalez is the best player in that trade by far.

Alexei is a great prospect and does many things well, but he isn't clearly better than Drew. In fact, he was outperformed by Drew last year and may be outperformed by him again this year. Drew is batting 3rd!!! in the potentially stacked D-Backs lineup. He's entering his prime and those numbers from last year are going to look better this year. The same is true with Alexei I'm sure. Alexei's multiple position eligibility if nice, but I only generally find that useful if I'm using the player off the bench to (potentially) fill one of many spots on an off day. It's not such a big deal to me as far as every day players go. Alexei won't be swiping more than 20 bags this year and you already look very thin in that category. Unless you constantly play Maybin (and he lives up to the hype) is looks like you already have 1 throw away category...with your lack of closers you might have 2.

I say catchers are overvalued because their numbers rarely exceed other players they are taken before. You took Molina before Abreu and Ibanez. The base difference between your catcher (46/16/95/.292) and the one I'm using (37/7/56/.304) isn't so significant when you think about the number of at bats and everything else. Or look at Molina and a guy sitting in the free agent pool - Chris Snyder. Snyder is the every day catcher in Zona. He had just as many home runs as Molina in 200 fewer ABs. He had 2/3 of Bengie's RBI. Seeing as how you have 2 guys ready to plug in to those catcher spots, I can't bring myself to provide you any more sweetener in that deal besides a bench option possibly.

Fair enough. As far as steals go, yes I am thin but I expect a few more swipes from both Markakis and Rios than they had last year. Also If like you said Maybin plays as hoped he'll be good for 20 plus IMO. He's going to be leading off from what I understand and that will help him and possibly even hurt Hanley....but we'll see. I like Ramirez to swipe 20 as well. Svaes might be a throw away the first few weeks for me but I'll work the wire....did it very effectively last season for closers. Also if I get Sizemore I'll be fine with SB. I sent Pole another offer thats similar but should be hard for him to resist since the other one took him quite a while to decide on....and this ones is better.

BTW Gringo if he accepts I have a deal worked out in my head I think you might like which would land you Pujols.....we'll have to wait and see.

Pablo Sandoval is going to spell Bengie every so often. I dunno if Bengie will get the same amount of ABs this year. He very well may, but I think the upcoming super utility will take a few of those.

True but he and Molina will be the only catchers on the Giants roster from what I read.....

BTW Gringo if he accepts I have a deal worked out in my head I think you might like which would land you Pujols.....we'll have to wait and see.

I like it. I'm going to work on some trades later tonight. Probably after I get back from the bar. Best time to make trades...when you're drunk and high.

I like it. I'm going to work on some trades later tonight. Probably after I get back from the bar. Best time to make trades...when you're drunk and high.

Yeah I seem a bit more willing to put it on the line when I'm buzzed too. I picked up Chris Ray, he'll have Sherrills job in a few weeks. Also sent 14k an offer for one of his closers. I'm going to fix my problems and be ok this season. I had a shitty draft IMO. I did so much better just one week later in the draft for Badbloods league.....

Yeah I seem a bit more willing to put it on the line when I'm buzzed too. I picked up Chris Ray, he'll have Sherrills job in a few weeks. Also sent 14k an offer for one of his closers. I'm going to fix my problems and be ok this season. I had a shitty draft IMO. I did so much better just one week later in the draft for Badbloods league.....

sherrill aint giving up shit.

sherrill aint giving up shit.

Watch and see....assface.

Watch and see....assface.

he'll be alright, you want him?

he'll be alright, you want him?

I'll pass, I have his successor now.I wouldn't mind having Aviles around tho.....

I'll pass, I have his successor now.I wouldn't mind having Aviles around tho.....

hellz no...

Fair enough. As far as steals go, yes I am thin but I expect a few more swipes from both Markakis and Rios than they had last year. Also If like you said Maybin plays as hoped he'll be good for 20 plus IMO. He's going to be leading off from what I understand and that will help him and possibly even hurt Hanley....but we'll see. I like Ramirez to swipe 20 as well. Svaes might be a throw away the first few weeks for me but I'll work the wire....did it very effectively last season for closers. Also if I get Sizemore I'll be fine with SB. I sent Pole another offer thats similar but should be hard for him to resist since the other one took him quite a while to decide on....and this ones is better.

There are 30 teams. Each team has either 1 established closer, or a 2 man platoon vying for the closer job.

So you have to figure that there are 20 quality established closers who you can count on for 20+ SAVES and maybe 15-20 guys who will give you somewhere between 5-20 saves. If you want to win the saves category, plus aid your ERA and WHIP you need at least 2 established closers and 1 of the platoon type. Anyway, with 12 teams all competing for closers those 30-40 guys aren't going to be plentifull on the waiver wire.



Starting pitchers on the other hand are a completely different animal. There are more than enough pitchers to go around, plus you always have a few unexpected breakout guys available on the wire. Hell I picked up BOTH Ervin Santana and Cliff Lee last season and they were 2 of the best overall fantasy pitchers in the league.

There are 30 teams. Each team has either 1 established closer, or a 2 man platoon vying for the closer job.

So you have to figure that there are 20 quality established closers who you can count on for 20+ SAVES and maybe 15-20 guys who will give you somewhere between 5-20 wins. If you want to win the saves category, plus aid your ERA and WHIP you need at least 2 established closers and 1 of the platoon type. Anyway, with 12 teams all competing for closers those 30-40 guys aren't going to be plentifull on the waiver wire.



Starting pitchers on the other hand are a completely different animal. There are more than enough pitchers to go around, plus you always have a few unexpected breakout guys available on the wire. Hell I picked up BOTH Ervin Santana and Cliff Lee last season and they were 2 of the best overall fantasy pitchers in the league.
Thanks for the lesson but I did just fine last year finding closers on the wire. just picking guys up when someone gets hurt or demoted....happens all the time throughout the course of the season.

hellz no...

aviles is gonna be money

Thanks for the lesson but I did just fine last year finding closers on the wire. just picking guys up when someone gets hurt or demoted....happens all the time throughout the course of the season.

Well your best finish was 5th place and a first round playoff loss so if I were you I'd take all the help I could get...:)

I just proposed 4 trade offers. Some of them may be dumb...lets see what happens.

Well your best finish was 5th place and a first round playoff loss so if I were you I'd take all the help I could get...:)

lol....bam,ouch low blow. pwned by sonny.

You're right and afterall this is still only my 3rd season. I don't think I've done too bad in my rookie and sophomore attempts.....Hell I usually beat fix at least...lol

I just proposed 4 trade offers. Some of them may be dumb...lets see what happens.

And noe were proposed to me.....

And noe were proposed to me.....

I thought you were waiting on the deal with Mr. Fairpole.

I don't know what to offer you for your catchers. Markakis is my boy, as is Alexei, but I'm not giving you the farm for em.

lol....bam,ouch low blow. pwned by sonny.

You're right and afterall this is still only my 3rd season. I don't think I've done too bad in my rookie and sophomore attempts.....Hell I usually beat fix at least...lol

:lol1:

Savage. Fix still has a second place finish in '06 and a regular season title in football in '07.

You and lefty will be in for a tough matchup in hoops this week. I'm going to destroy treez.

I thought you were waiting on the deal with Mr. Fairpole.

I don't know what to offer you for your catchers. Markakis is my boy, as is Alexei, but I'm not giving you the farm for em.

I am but he takes forever and I think I'm gonna pull it. I'm reaching a bit anyway. I probably should give him what I'm offering. I'll give him a few more hours.

And by mid season you're gonna wish you did. I think both guys will have great seasons.....In fact I'm banking on it.

:lol1:

Savage. Fix still has a second place finish in '06 and a regular season title in football in '07.

You and lefty will be in for a tough matchup in hoops this week. I'm going to destroy treez.

Yeah my winning is not a forgone conclusion. It's still very close in many categories.....If I do though it should be a hell of a week against Lefty. The fact that I beat him 3 times in the regular season lingers to me.....could be good, could be bad. We'll see.....my ultimate goal is a showdown with you in the finals and to exact revenge on you for last season.....I still can't believe that shit.

I am but he takes forever and I think I'm gonna pull it. I'm reaching a bit anyway. I probably should give him what I'm offering. I'll give him a few more hours.

And by mid season you're gonna wish you did. I think both guys will have great seasons.....In fact I'm banking on it.



Yeah my winning is not a forgone conclusion. It's still very close in many categories.....If I do though it should be a hell of a week against Lefty. The fact that I beat him 3 times in the regular season lingers to me.....could be good, could be bad. We'll see.....my ultimate goal is a showdown with you in the finals and to exact revenge on you for last season.....I still can't believe that shit.

Markakis was my steal of the season the last two years. I didn't expect to have him again this year. He was a staple of my playoff teams though. If I would have had things my way I would have gone:

Wright
Utley
Morneau
Markakis
Ramirez

That would have been a sick infield. Too bad 14-K took Utley right before me and you took Ramirez/Markakis earlier than their ADP.

In hoops I need Biedrins and Ginobili to get healthy. I don't think the Bron/Wade connection can be beat if I have the rest of the pieces healthy around them. Manu returned to action and Biedrins should be back this week though so I hope I can get by Treez without having to drop Andris. Rebounds will be a lock with him in the lineup.

Markakis was my steal of the season the last two years. I didn't expect to have him again this year. He was a staple of my playoff teams though. If I would have had things my way I would have gone:

Wright
Utley
Morneau
Markakis
Ramirez

That would have been a sick infield. Too bad 14-K took Utley right before me and you took Ramirez/Markakis earlier than their ADP.

In hoops I need Biedrins and Ginobili to get healthy. I don't think the Bron/Wade connection can be beat if I have the rest of the pieces healthy around them. Manu returned to action and Biedrins should be back this week though so I hope I can get by Treez without having to drop Andris. Rebounds will be a lock with him in the lineup.

I did slightly, they were on my list of players I really wanted to have this season. I'm still shocked Pujols fell to me where he did....only thanks to Lefty taking Manny 2nd overall. I landed Manny in the 2nd round in Badbloods league after getting Hanley as the 2nd overall pick.....I really like my team over in his league alot better than in this league....but oh well I will work with the pieces I have and I'm sure I will do ok because I stay active and keep an eye on whats going on.

I did slightly, they were on my list of players I really wanted to have this season. I'm still shocked Pujols fell to me where he did....only thanks to Lefty taking Manny 2nd overall. I landed Manny in the 2nd round in Badbloods league after getting Hanley as the 2nd overall pick.....I really like my team over in his league alot better than in this league....but oh well I will work with the pieces I have and I'm sure I will do ok because I stay active and keep an eye on whats going on.

Yeah I'm still surprised lefty did that...especially when he could have traded down with Sonny. I don't know why he wouldn't want the extra 6th/7th/8th round or whatever pick.

It helped you and I immensely though. No way did I think I was getting Wright 5th. Pujols should arguably be the first overall pick.

Yeah I'm still surprised lefty did that...especially when he could have traded down with Sonny. I don't know why he wouldn't want the extra 6th/7th/8th round or whatever pick.

It helped you and I immensely though. No way did I think I was getting Wright 5th. Pujols should arguably be the first overall pick.

Yeah and he was in Bloods league like I said. I was happy to land Hanley with the 2nd pick tho of course. We certainly both benefited greatly from Lefty taking Manny and Treez taking Reyes.....I'm just unhappy with the way my draft went in the mid rounds....but it's my fault.

I hope Floyd and Bedard can pitch well this season. Floyd is having a nice spring and got a contract hopefully he's happy and comfortable. I'm quite sure barring injury CC,Harden and Wainwright will deliver a strong 1,2,3 punch most weeks.....

So what do you think Gringo.....Pujols/Markakis/Bell for A. Gonzalez/Wright/Molina? It's a thought I've pondered.....I know that would leave you in a pinch at 3rd but you could make another deal for a 3b or I could work Gordon or Lowell into the deal if you'd like. Not sure if I'd even pull the trigger on it or not at this point but I'd like your input on the scenario.

Even though I snagged him as a FA Todd Helton may end up being my starting 1B ahead of Konerko if he keeps playing like he has all spring.

Everytime they have updated his note since I picked him up it has been about him ripping the cover off of the ball.

So I am a member of more leagues than I have ever done at one time before.

The most I've ever done is 4 (3 yahoo plus my sportsbar $$ league.) We'll this year I am in 6 leagues (4 yahoo, $$ league, plus my buddy's FOX Sports league) The only reason I mention this is because I honestly can't believe how good my Fox league is. It's so good that I can't decide who to start at several positions. Check it out:

C 3B R. Martin (LAD-C,3B)
1B 3B K. Youkilis (Bos-1B,3B)
1B A. Pujols (StL-1B)
1B 3B J. Cantu (Fla-3B,1B)
2B I. Kinsler (Tex-2B)
2B SS OF A. Ramirez (CWS-SS,2B,OF)
3B E. Longoria (TB -3B)
SS S. Drew (Ari-SS)
OF C. Lee (Hou-OF)
OF C. Quentin (CWS-OF)
OF M. Ramirez (LAD-OF)
OF L. Milledge (Was-OF)
OF J. Werth (Phi-OF)

SP J. Beckett (Bos-SP)
SP R. Harden (ChC-SP)
SP K. Slowey (Min-SP)
SP J. Jurrjens (Atl-SP)
SP J. Guthrie (Bal-SP)
RP J. Nathan (Min-RP)
RP B. Fuentes (LAA-RP)
RP C. Qualls (Ari-RP)

Catcher I'm all set with one of the best in the league - Russell Martin.
1st base - Pujols. Nuff said! But heaven forbid he should fall to an injury I have Youkilis and Cantu ready to plug in.
2nd base I could go with Kinsler or Ramirez.
3rd base I've got Longoria, Youkilis, Cantu and even Martin eligable to play this position.
SS I've got Drew and Ramirez both eligable.
OF consisting of Lee, Man-Ram, Quentin, Milledge, Werth, and even Alexei Ramirez if need be.

I also have a Utility position to fill.

Right now I've got Kinsler at 2nd, Drew at short and Longoria at 3rd with Youk in the utility position. I have Lee, Manny and Quentin starting in the OF. But as you can see the possibilities are limitless. It's a nice problem to have.

I wouldn't mind some opinions on whom I shold start at 2nd, short, 3rd and utility...

I hope Floyd and Bedard can pitch well this season. Floyd is having a nice spring and got a contract hopefully he's happy and comfortable. I'm quite sure barring injury CC,Harden and Wainwright will deliver a strong 1,2,3 punch most weeks.....

So what do you think Gringo.....Pujols/Markakis/Bell for A. Gonzalez/Wright/Molina? It's a thought I've pondered.....I know that would leave you in a pinch at 3rd but you could make another deal for a 3b or I could work Gordon or Lowell into the deal if you'd like. Not sure if I'd even pull the trigger on it or not at this point but I'd like your input on the scenario.

I'm not sure I understand the potential trade.

I get:

Albert Pujols/Nick Markakis/Bengie Molina

You get:

Adrian Gonzalez/David Wright/Heath Bell

? That's tough. It's a pretty straight up and down deal, but it doesn't directly address any needs I have outside of catcher. Plus it leaves me with two glaring holes, one being significant (3B), the other just being the coveted 3rd closer.

I feel like there needs to be another piece in there if it's gonna get done. I'm not afraid of having a weak spot on my team, but I'd need something to go on so that I could fill my roster with a halfway respectable player. I'd need a Ramirez/Uggla type in there so that I could slide my current 2B into the 3B position. Or I'd need a good upgrade somewhere else (OF possibly).

I offer:

Pujols/Markakis/Ramirez/Molina

for

Wright/Gonzalez/Ankiel/Bell

I'd be willing to substitute Bradley for Ankiel.

I'm not sure I understand the potential trade.

I get:

Albert Pujols/Nick Markakis/Bengie Molina

You get:

Adrian Gonzalez/David Wright/Heath Bell

? That's tough. It's a pretty straight up and down deal, but it doesn't directly address any needs I have outside of catcher. Plus it leaves me with two glaring holes, one being significant (3B), the other just being the coveted 3rd closer.

I feel like there needs to be another piece in there if it's gonna get done. I'm not afraid of having a weak spot on my team, but I'd need something to go on so that I could fill my roster with a halfway respectable player. I'd need a Ramirez/Uggla type in there so that I could slide my current 2B into the 3B position. Or I'd need a good upgrade somewhere else (OF possibly).

I offer:

Pujols/Markakis/Ramirez/Molina

for

Wright/Gonzalez/Ankiel/Bell

I'd be willing to substitute Bradley for Ankiel.

I don't think I'm going to be able to swing that. Giving up Alexi in this trade is something I didn't have in mind. I'm willing to like I said throw in either Lowell or Gordon to sweeten the deal for you and you can keep Ankiel.....I'm going to have to think about this. It'd certainly be a blockbuster deal tho if we can come to terms.....

OK offer counter offer sent. You gotta give me someone to work with back for Alexi.....

Pujols/Alexi/Markakis/Molina for Wright/AGon/Drew/Bell.

I'd say thats about as fair as it gets......

OK offer counter offer sent. You gotta give me someone to work with back for Alexi.....

Pujols/Alexi/Markakis/Molina for Wright/AGon/Drew/Bell.

I'd say thats about as fair as it gets......

Alright lets do it. I don't ****in know.....I don't like having no third baseman but that was a blockbuster and I'm a sucker for a good blockbuster to shake shit up.

Well played Saadmon. Good luck with those players...they should all have great years.

Four new trades proposed in lieu of the old ones now that this blockbuster was just agreed upon.

I'm in the market for a third baseman. I feel like I offered pretty fair deals. Counter me if you want an OF or SP.

I think OG got the better of the deal.

Jeez i just got a Crazy Trade Prop.

Alright lets do it. I don't ****in know.....I don't like having no third baseman but that was a blockbuster and I'm a sucker for a good blockbuster to shake shit up.

Well played Saadmon. Good luck with those players...they should all have great years.

Wow, I love it. What a ****in deal!! Props you guys.

I havent been offered a trade yet that required more than 2 seconds of thought to reject.

thats a huge deal, which is nice to see im just worried it could be one sided later on... im not so sure id have the balls to pull that off either way, especially this early on. anyways, good luck to both on that one.

The way I see it, I solved my 3b problem and SS problem while adding a closer and didn't lose too much at 1b. OF are easier to come by than position players generally on the wire so giving up Markarkis wasn't too huge and Molina was a throw away anyway.....I think it is a fair deal and I'm happy with it.....Funny thing is we're playing each other in Week 1 too.

Player adds have kicked in now it seems. Be careful with your roster moves.

Treez/Incu - Trades on the table. I need a third baseman.

I havent been offered a trade yet that required more than 2 seconds of thought to reject.

I'll give you Jeremy Hermida for Hanley Ramirez.

I'll give you Jeremy Hermida for Hanley Ramirez.

That's actually a good example of the kind of trades I've been offered.

That's actually a good example of the kind of trades I've been offered.

I'd offer you something, but outside of Hanley and Pedroia, you don't have anyone I really want. I suppose I could use Huff now, but I don't want to pay the price you'd ask for him. Same with your starting pitchers. I'd take Jenks off your hands too, I just couldn't possibly know what you'd want for him.

I think you're getting bad offers because this is your first year. We all know each other pretty well now (fantasy-wise) except for you and Incu.

I'd offer you something, but outside of Hanley and Pedroia, you don't have anyone I really want. I suppose I could use Huff now, but I don't want to pay the price you'd ask for him. Same with your starting pitchers. I'd take Jenks off your hands too, I just couldn't possibly know what you'd want for him.

I think you're getting bad offers because this is your first year. We all know each other pretty well now (fantasy-wise) except for you and Incu.


It doesn't really matter much since I love my team as it is. I just felt like bitching about all these "Goldstein" trade offers. I actually have one on the board that it looks like Trees is giving serious thought to.

You're right about Huff, with no A-Rod he is worth way more to me than he is to anybody else. When A-Rod is back my asking price will probably drop.

If Helton looks like he will hold up and Konerko plays decent I would move Huff for a step up in the outfield.

It doesn't really matter much since I love my team as it is. I just felt like bitching about all these "Goldstein" trade offers. I actually have one on the board that it looks like Trees is giving serious thought to.

You're right about Huff, with no A-Rod he is worth way more to me than he is to anybody else. When A-Rod is back my asking price will probably drop.

If Helton looks like he will hold up and Konerko plays decent I would move Huff for a step up in the outfield.
yeah i am considering...even tho dont wanna give up Delgado...honestly i feel Konerko and him have same year...i do need another sp....u thought well at least and for that i always consider..my prob is tryna decide whom i'd drop...and also...i've been away from home so havnt really had a good chance to really look at things and i'm sorry for that...hopefully my car gets fixed soon and i can travel the ten hours back tonight

Well apparently our trade has been KOed. I got a email saying it was vetoed by the league. I don't really understand why. It was a fair straight up and down deal. I may have been reaching a bit but I initiated the trade in the first place. Well back to the drawing board. We'll come up with something suitable eventually.

Well apparently our trade has been KOed. I got a email saying it was vetoed by the league. I don't really understand why. It was a fair straight up and down deal. I may have been reaching a bit but I initiated the trade in the first place. Well back to the drawing board. We'll come up with something suitable eventually.

How does that work? Does it take a certain amount of objections? Or does just one person need to veto it?

Well apparently our trade has been KOed. I got a email saying it was vetoed by the league. I don't really understand why. It was a fair straight up and down deal. I may have been reaching a bit but I initiated the trade in the first place. Well back to the drawing board. We'll come up with something suitable eventually.

lmao we got ****in

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i think a drunken 14-k vetoed us (although today he says he thinks it's a fine trade), as well as fairpole and at least 5 other people. i believe it takes majority.

oh well, it is the right of the league to veto trades they don't think are fair, so we'll just have to sit on our teams. i'll be ****in irate if somebody adds yadier molina though. people are getting worried already...that's how i know this is going to be a good season. fairpole saying i'm barely a playoff team? i have won the regular season 2 years in a row. come on now.:luvbed:

How does that work? Does it take a certain amount of objections? Or does just one person need to veto it?

just found this:

If your Custom League is configured to use the League Vote option, one-third of the league managers must vote against the trade in order for it to be vetoed. For example, if your league has 12 teams, four votes are needed to veto the trade. We always round fractions up, so a league of ten teams also requires four votes, even though one-third of ten is actually three-and-one-third.

that's from yahoo. so 14-k, fairpole and 2 others (or more) voted against it. tis alright though...saad and i both have strong squads so we'll survive.

that's from yahoo. so 14-k, fairpole and 2 others (or more) voted against it. tis alright though...saad and i both have strong squads so we'll survive.


It the words of the immortal philosopher Shaggy:

"It wasn't me."

It the words of the immortal philosopher Shaggy:

"It wasn't me."

Even if it was it's all good. It's your right. I won't lose any sleep over it. Saad might though.:sombrero:

Even if it was it's all good. It's your right. I won't lose any sleep over it. Saad might though.:sombrero:

I think probably just the fact that it was 4 for 4 made people uneasy.

I looked at it for a minute and it made my brain hurt.

I think probably just the fact that it was 4 for 4 made people uneasy.

I looked at it for a minute and it made my brain hurt.

Haha yeah nobody was probably expecting a trade of that magnitude to go down so early. The baseball season is so ****in long and requires so many pieces to be successful that it almost doesn't matter who you start the season with (reasonably). I'm happy to have the team I currently have. I would have liked a couple of the players I was getting in that trade (Markakis, Ramirez namely) because they are two of my favorite players in the league. I would have had more holes post-trade though. Now I only have to plug in a catcher or two until Wieters dumb ass gets called up.

I thought about it, but I didn't vote. I think it was Fix who did it after a rough day of male stripping.

I thought about it, but I didn't vote. I think it was Fix who did it after a rough day of male stripping.

haha he had it after patrons started throwing canadian nickels on stage for tips.

i didnt veto anything, i would have said i was going to. i could understand why both made that trade... rae never liked pujols that much, and he needed a closer. gringo gave him david wright(who im pretty sure rae wanted from the begining but had to take pujols when he fell to him) and heath bell.

Even if it was it's all good. It's your right. I won't lose any sleep over it. Saad might though.:sombrero:
Nah I'm cool. A guy I work with (takin charges) said I was a dumb ass for doing it lol

Haha yeah nobody was probably expecting a trade of that magnitude to go down so early. The baseball season is so ****in long and requires so many pieces to be successful that it almost doesn't matter who you start the season with (reasonably). I'm happy to have the team I currently have. I would have liked a couple of the players I was getting in that trade (Markakis, Ramirez namely) because they are two of my favorite players in the league. I would have had more holes post-trade though. Now I only have to plug in a catcher or two until Wieters dumb ass gets called up.

yeah it's a long season, no biggie. We'll figure something out. I feel the same way about 3b as you do catcher. I'll roll the dice and see if Gordon works out for now I guess.

thats a huge deal, which is nice to see im just worried it could be one sided later on... im not so sure id have the balls to pull that off either way, especially this early on. anyways, good luck to both on that one.

this was my only post on the trade.. i know that fairpole had said on the yahoo page that he was thinking of voting, however i dont know if he followed through. i can honestly say i didnt vote, both guys are good managers and know what they are doing.

On paper the trade looked relatively even. But my gut told me Gringo was getting the better deal. Either way I guess it doesn't matter now.


On a seperate note, Villanova beating Pitt at the last second killed my bracket, but now I would love to see them win it all. Fvck UNC, UCONN, and especially Mich St....

On paper the trade looked relatively even. But my gut told me Gringo was getting the better deal. Either way I guess it doesn't matter now.


On a seperate note, Villanova beating Pitt at the last second killed my bracket, but now I would love to see them win it all. Fvck UNC, UCONN, and especially Mich St....

i want nova too but i wouldnt mind michigan state.

i want nova too but i wouldnt mind michigan state.

Mich St. winning was a good win for the Big Ten. Every talking head was talking shit about the conference before the tourney started. Esp. Digger PHelps. MSU did well, Purdue did pretty well, Michigan won their first round game, so did Wisconsin. The Big East was clearly superior to everyone this year though.

Well Gordon cracked a coule of Dingers yesterday, if he lives up to his potential this year I just might be OK at 3b.

Mich St. winning was a good win for the Big Ten. Every talking head was talking shit about the conference before the tourney started. Esp. Digger PHelps. MSU did well, Purdue did pretty well, Michigan won their first round game, so did Wisconsin. The Big East was clearly superior to everyone this year though.

You see the Tigers releases Sheffield today?

Not a good sign considering he has been playing well, it looks like they're gonna tear this team apart.

You see the Tigers releases Sheffield today?

Not a good sign considering he has been playing well, it looks like they're gonna tear this team apart.

Sheff's a Douche Bag. Always has been...

Sheff's a Douche Bag. Always has been...

I hardly care about the attitude of professional athletes.

Most of them are douchebags who put on a nice face for the camera, at least Sheffield isn't afraid to be himself.

I hardly care about the attitude of professional athletes.

Most of them are douchebags who put on a nice face for the camera, at least Sheffield isn't afraid to be himself.

Calling Torre a racist was ****ed up. Sheff is a cunt IMO...

Calling Torre a racist was ****ed up. Sheff is a cunt IMO...

I thought that was funny. Sheff sometimes forgets his meds.

I'm gonna laugh when the Yanks pick him up for the minimum.

Gringo.....

Markakis/Molina for Gonzalez/Bell?

Anyone object? lol

I need someone decent to plug the IF spot with.

I thought that was funny. Sheff sometimes forgets his meds.

I'm gonna laugh when the Yanks pick him up for the minimum.

That's hilarious that detwat released him when he's 1 hr away from 500. What would be even funnier is if no team made him an offer...

That's hilarious that detwat released him when he's 1 hr away from 500. What would be even funnier is if no team made him an offer...

Oh yeah, on top of that I read that his entire family including Doc Gooden was planning on being at every Tiger game until he hit it.

It doesn't make any sense, Sheffield has hit 5 HRs this spring and the Tigers have to pay his 14 million no matter what. He musta pissed someone off.

Gringo.....

Markakis/Molina for Gonzalez/Bell?

Anyone object? lol

I need someone decent to plug the IF spot with.

i'm gonna have to think about that one. i'd have 6 outfielders after that.

What's with this Todd Helton kid? He's hitting .515 and slugging 1.000 for the preseason.

What's with this Todd Helton kid? He's hitting .515 and slugging 1.000 for the preseason.

helton is the colossus of clout

helton is the colossus of clout

I see you are speculating on Ian Stewart. If he takes start from my boy Barmes I'm gonna be pissed.

I see you are speculating on Ian Stewart. If he takes start from my boy Barmes I'm gonna be pissed.

He and Hermida are both on their second stints on my team since the draft. I'll probably end up holding onto them for now. Stewart has so much promise that they are forcing him into their lineup by playing him at 2B (he's a natural 3B).

Hermida was supposed to "break out" 2 years ago. Maybe the third year is a charm.

He and Hermida are both on their second stints on my team since the draft. I'll probably end up holding onto them for now. Stewart has so much promise that they are forcing him into their lineup by playing him at 2B (he's a natural 3B).

Hermida was supposed to "break out" 2 years ago. Maybe the third year is a charm.


The first couple weeks should be real interesting for me. Right now Weeks has hit in 15 of 16 games.... he will probably go hitless in 10 straight to start the season and start getting booed at home. Helton will probably rupture a disk during a home run trot. The yahoo updates keep saying BJ Ryan is throwing 85mph.... ****er is gonna go out like Kenny Powers.

It's already happening with closers. Demotions and injuries are striking.

It's already happening with closers. Demotions and injuries are striking.

Perez, Devine, Hoffman, Lindstrom.....yep. Some musical chairs going on. Thankfully I don't have to worry about any of that.

Perez, Devine, Hoffman, Lindstrom.....yep. Some musical chairs going on. Thankfully I don't have to worry about any of that.

I think I'll be OK for at least a few weeks with percy,Villanueva and Motte. Hopefully Sherrill with cough a couple of games up in the first week and Ray will be brought on. I'm certainly not worried about it too much. I'm starting to believe Alex Gordon is going to have a strong season too.....5hr this spring. Keeping my fingers crossed.

I think I'll be OK for at least a few weeks with percy,Villanueva and Motte. Hopefully Sherrill with cough a couple of games up in the first week and Ray will be brought on. I'm certainly not worried about it too much. I'm starting to believe Alex Gordon is going to have a strong season too.....5hr this spring. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Motte is more likely to get the boot than Sherrill. If he blows a couple saves early in the year LaRussa will start splitting the work at the very least. It's well known that he hates rookies and wont give them too many chances.

Motte is more likely to get the boot than Sherrill. If he blows a couple saves early in the year LaRussa will start splitting the work at the very least. It's well known that he hates rookies and wont give them too many chances.

True....But thats not going to happen, because I said so. lol

True....But thats not going to happen, because I said so. lol

We shoulda waited one more week before drafting. The suspense is killing me.

We shoulda waited one more week before drafting. The suspense is killing me.

lol....I hear that. Monday hurry the **** up and get here already!