ABOUT TIME !

Couldn't happen to a better guy. I hope he rots in hell.

Yeah he certainly was a dick. Unfortunately he will probably be replaced by someone worse.

Good riddance! I agree that he will be replaced by more radical terrorists than he. Too bad for the Palestinian people.

If he'd more flexible in the peace negotiations in '99 his legacy might have been much different. Instead we've had five more years of unnecessary killings.

arafat was no worse then napoloen or and other european leader of the past

arafat was no worse then napoloen or and other european leader of the past

I could agree with this, but if Napoleon had just died people would have been just as critical.

arafat was no worse then napoloen or and other european leader of the past


Yeah....so.....what the hell does that mean ?

A pile of murderous **** is a pile of murderous ****, no matter how you scoop it.

This guy shoulda been assassinated years ago.

Yeah....so.....what the hell does that mean ?

A pile of murderous **** is a pile of murderous ****, no matter how you scoop it.

This guy shoulda been assassinated years ago.

Wasn't for lack of trying.

Yeah....so.....what the hell does that mean ?

A pile of murderous **** is a pile of murderous ****, no matter how you scoop it.

This guy shoulda been assassinated years ago.

Seriously..."European leader" isn't exactly synonymous with "Peace-loving individual".

its not a one way street this guys, it takes two countries to have a conflict.
I dont sympahtise with either side to be honest its inherent to the region now over the past 50 or so years its hard to get the hate out of either side. Palestinian and jew alike.

But on a positive note, if Ireland can commedably unite after hundreds of years of sectarianism then there is hope. When theres hope, theres spirit where theres spirit, theres a will and as we all know where there's a will there's a way :cool:

we can but start with hope. :cool:

Seriously..."European leader" isn't exactly synonymous with "Peace-loving individual".

and george bush is right? :eek:

you all need to peace out man, how the **** would you feel if somebody decreed that the midwest was gonna be given back to the indiginous indians? And you all had go live in the desert? you migfht appreciate how the palestinians felt then.

Im not taking sides but you need to appreciate the subtlties of the situation its not as straight forward as make a marytr out of arafat.
the only answer really is that somneone somewhere has to break the mould and start trying to live beside one another we are all humans after all.

and george bush is right? :eek:

Of course not...but America is the delinquent child of European civilization.

You read the imperial rhetoric of the British Empire days and it is no different from what the current Bush regime is saying.

who cares if hes dead.

Speaking of Ireland. I am gonna go there this december, I can't wait.

Let's not get into this, here. Create a new thread, please.


This topic is devoted to the far-too-late death of a terrorist.
YesSir, Arafat's dead !

its not a one way street this guys, it takes two countries to have a conflict.
I dont sympahtise with either side to be honest its inherent to the region now over the past 50 or so years its hard to get the hate out of either side. Palestinian and jew alike.

But on a positive note, if Ireland can commedably unite after hundreds of years of sectarianism then there is hope. When theres hope, theres spirit where theres spirit, theres a will and as we all know where there's a will there's a way :cool:

we can but start with hope. :cool:

Sharon in particular has been unnecessarily antagonistic. He's a descendent from the conservative Begin days, but at least begin was responding to a more urgent threat. Back then every other country in the area was ganging up on Israel.

who cares if hes dead.



I know. Who cares about Arafat...when Manny Pac's gonna save the earth with his awesome straight left ?

and george bush is right? :eek:

you all need to peace out man, how the **** would you feel if somebody decreed that the midwest was gonna be given back to the indiginous indians? And you all had go live in the desert? you migfht appreciate how the palestinians felt then.

Im not taking sides but you need to appreciate the subtlties of the situation its not as straight forward as make a marytr out of arafat.
the only answer really is that somneone somewhere has to break the mould and start trying to live beside one another we are all humans after all.


JPW....

Throw out an old chair....watch a neighbor trash pick it. See them restore it & make it beautiful. Feel jealous, feel like you want it back....like it was always yours.
Now, you know how the Palestinians feel.

Of course not...but America is the delinquent child of European civilization.

You read the imperial rhetoric of the British Empire days and it is no different from what the current Bush regime is saying.


sorry i went back and added stuff, no agree with you totally on that, but arent we supposed to learn from out mistakes?

I mean the English carry a legacy from past centuries that still makes us a target for hate now, I find that hard, I'll tell you a story I was in Dublin not so long ago and this nice lass came up to me and started chatitng, as soon as she heard my London accents she called me a murdering bastard!!! I asked for an explanation and **** me she only quoted the feckon potato famine, how ****ed up is that? 200 years ago Im getting **** for it??? I wouldnt mind but my grandma on my dads side was an irish gypsy, you dont more ****ing irish that that! :eek:

JPW....

Throw out an old chair....watch a neighbor trash pick it. See them restore it & make it beautiful. Feel jealous, feel like you want it back....like it was always yours.
Now, you know how the Palestinians feel.

true but they didnt throw it out, they were displaced by the equivelent of the UN, so if you had the chair in the first place and someone snatched it off you would still want it back!!!
Im playing devils advocate and certianly have no strong emotions bout this issue, just chucking ideas out to be honest!

sorry i went back and added stuff, no agree with you totally on that, but arent we supposed to learn from out mistakes?

I mean the English carry a legacy from past centuries that still makes us a target for hate now, I find that hard, I'll tell you a story I was in Dublin not so long ago and this nice lass came up to me and started chatitng, as soon as she heard my London accents she called me a murdering bastard!!! I asked for an explanation and **** me she only quoted the feckon potato famine, how ****ed up is that? 200 years ago Im getting **** for it??? I wouldnt mind but my grandma on my dads side was an irish gypsy, you dont more ****ing irish that that! :eek:

I agree...I just wanted to make it clear that I was referring to past European leaders, not the current ones. Actually I find people in Europe to be much more enlightened about these issues than anyone around here, especially young people. In Britain especially it seems like a lot of people under a certain age totally reject the "proud old Britain" rhetoric left over from the old days.

Definintely people learn from their mistakes. Unfortunately I think those of us in North America are going to continute to make mistakes until we catch up with you guys.

mate as long as there are people around with great attitudes like yours then america will learn from her mistakes,
Though I dont know that we are any further ahead as a nation? not sure where ya got that idea :D
all we can do as the younger crowd is learn form our generation b4's mistakes and indeed our own, god knows Ive made enough in my life.

respect dude nice chatting with ya! :cool:

ABOUT TIME !

Couldn't happen to a better guy. I hope he rots in hell.
What shame.

Yassar Arafat was a hero. A noble man who fought for just causes.

I pray that he trained another to follow in his footsteps and serve with the honor he showed in fighting the Great Satan

What shame.

Yassar Arafat was a hero. A noble man who fought for just causes.

I pray that he trained another to follow in his footsteps and serve with the honor he showed in fighting the Great Satan


Sweet.....

I agree with most of what you had to say in here last week, concerning the election.

Here, I think you're just wrong.

Liberals just love non-whites a little too much. That's why when a non-white oppresses someone else, or murders someone else....it's justified/understandable in their eyes.

mate as long as there are people around with great attitudes like yours then america will learn from her mistakes,
Though I dont know that we are any further ahead as a nation? not sure where ya got that idea :D
all we can do as the younger crowd is learn form our generation b4's mistakes and indeed our own, god knows Ive made enough in my life.

respect dude nice chatting with ya! :cool:

Same to you. Cheers :cool:

On the History channel they made him look like the good guy and Sharon the bad guy.

They said he negotiated peace with the prime minister of Israel then the prime minister was assasinated they show a clip of him crying saying how sad he is that his partner for peace was killed.

Sweet.....

I agree with most of what you had to say in here last week, concerning the election.

Here, I think you're just wrong.

Liberals just love non-whites a little too much. That's why when a non-white oppresses someone else, or murders someone else....it's justified/understandable in their eyes.
I'm not a liberal. Liberals are wankers.

I can't blame Arafat for fighting underhanded against the Evil Empire. Palestinians are have no voting rights, pay taxes and get nothing back in return from that government. Recipe for warfare.

Therefore I understand Arafat's positions and don't consider him such a bad person. Definitely, not worse than the imperialists/elitists who took his people's land unjustly and wouldnt exist if not for the USA's recognition through its superpowerful lobbyists in this country.

Arafat = hero in my book

I'm not a liberal. Liberals are wankers.

I can't blame Arafat for fighting underhanded against the Evil Empire. Palestinians are have no voting rights, pay taxes and get nothing back in return from that government. Recipe for warfare.

Therefore I understand Arafat's positions and don't consider him such a bad person. Definitely, not worse than the imperialists/elitists who took his people's land unjustly and wouldnt exist if not for the USA's recognition through its superpowerful lobbyists in this country.

Arafat = hero in my book

Wow thats exactly how the History Channel put it.

They also made Sharon out to be a butcher and always hungry for war since before he was a prime minister.

Arafat was a ****ing terrorist. It was he who did not agree to the compromise that Israel proposed.

Sharon is a dick too. With a girls name.....

Wow thats exactly how the History Channel put it.

They also made Sharon out to be a butcher and always hungry for war since before he was a prime minister.
I'm not some crazed Jew hater. I call it as I see it. The Evil Empire has forced those people into the position they're in. The Palestinians aren't in it by choice. Being violent is their only recourse, unless they embrace the Ghandi/MLK form of non violent protest. They're culture isn't to accept abuse. It's to do to others before they do to you. So that turn the other cheek method is not a reasonable option.

But the Evil Empire is responsible for breeding and creating these terrorists by their terroristic policies based on a diaspora led by Joshua that NEVER took place, according to archeologists who've canvased ever ounce of that region.

Of course, since the Old Testament said it, it must be true. Though science shows there were only TWO slaves who ran away. Not a whole group of people led to a chosen land. That's garbage.

Arafat is a disgrace. No tears from me.

Arafat is a disgrace. No tears from me.


Hmmmm....can you guys smell that ?
I think it's the smell of a Pizza Hut table cloth burning, as it enters damnation.

Arafat is a disgrace. No tears from me.
If he's a disgrace, then so are the rulers of the Evil Empire who created him.