Erase the lines. Allow all MMA fighters to fight anyone they can get matched up with. Regardless of which company they are with. The promoters cant keep this from happening. If the WAMMA champ wants to fight the UFC champ, then so be it, winner takes all. Just like they do it in boxing.

IMO

I disagree completely

The bottom line is that all sports in the end are about being profitable. They can't exist without it. UFC is the only promotion in MMA that is highly profitable and they rest are losing money.

You can not realistically expect a promotion like UFC to co-promote with someone when the UFC is the reason all the profits are being made. UFC is the sole reason MMA is popular,

Boxing would be much better for fans in general with a UFC type promotion. The majority of all top fighters under one promotion, no multiple belts, less b.s. weight classes, no dodging fighters. Obviously this will never happen....

I disagree completely

The bottom line is that all sports in the end are about being profitable. They can't exist without it. UFC is the only promotion in MMA that is highly profitable and they rest are losing money.

You can not realistically expect a promotion like UFC to co-promote with someone when the UFC is the reason all the profits are being made. UFC is the sole reason MMA is popular,

Boxing would be much better for fans in general with a UFC type promotion. The majority of all top fighters under one promotion, no multiple belts, less b.s. weight classes, no dodging fighters. Obviously this will never happen....


I agree with this, but sadly it will never happen

Boxing would be much better for fans in general with a UFC type promotion. The majority of all top fighters under one promotion, no multiple belts, less b.s. weight classes, no dodging fighters. Obviously this will never happen....

So boxing would be better off if it was dominated by a single entity?

Oh wait it was, the Mob.

Monopolies are good for nobody. Except the monopolist.

So boxing would be better off if it was dominated by a single entity?

Oh wait it was, the Mob.

Monopolies are good for nobody. Except the monopolist.

Exactly........

So boxing would be better off if it was dominated by a single entity?

Oh wait it was, the Mob.

Monopolies are good for nobody. Except the monopolist.

The Mob ran **** CORRECT don't get it confused.

The Mob ran **** CORRECT don't get it confused.

Correct? Fixed fights, corruption, payoffs.
Ah the glory days..... :lol1:

So boxing would be better off if it was dominated by a single entity?

Oh wait it was, the Mob.

Monopolies are good for nobody. Except the monopolist.

Well last time I check basically most sports are ran this way. Most high level baseball players seem to play for a team in MLB. Not many other options. And when there is a single entity and enough money is involved things like players union come into reality


Yes boxing would be better off dominated by a single entity then its current **** situation where we have four major sanctioning bodies, retarded weight classes..............(can someone explain the need for a 175 lb, 168 lb, 160 lb, 154 lb, 147 lb with 4 belts for each one? ....talk about meaningless belts and over saturation) we have multiple promoters...nothing is organized tightly.

This is the reason why boxing does terrible in PPVs on average. A few fighters can sell PPVs and the rest can't draw ****. Even UFC can draw well over 200,000 PPV buys with a card from the UK on a Saturday afternoon. A Saturday night fight with Hopkins-Pavlik does under 200,000. How many buys would Klitschko do in the U.S. at 3pm from Germany?

There is no flow to boxing in its promotion. People can't follow it like the UFC,...to an extent which would be like NFL, MLB or even the WWE. They don't promote anyone besides the main event, **** undercards...

I'm not saying it has to be a single entity but anymore than 2 and you have some overkill. Kill off the multiple belts, less weight classes....How about having 2 belts for 135lbs, 145lbs, 155lbs, 165lbs, 180lbs, 200lbs, 260lbs and and super HW if anyone actually cares about them. Yes I believe HW should be capped like MMA. There is no reason a 220 lb fighter should fight a 320 lb fighter. Its stupid....if you can't 260lb you shouldnt be in there.

Correct? Fixed fights, corruption, payoffs.
Ah the glory days..... :lol1:

Nah, when the mob ran ****, people were protected. Only people who were involved with the mob or committed crimes against the mob were hurt. They offered help to the community and ran **** with class.

IMO Mob > "Gangstas."

And MMA needs more fighters who aren't afraid to stand. ***** wrestlers get me so angry.

I respect the ground game and I frequent the Renzo Gracie BJJ Academy here in New York, but when a "FIGHTER" is SCARED to stand, it really annoys the **** out of me.

Well last time I check basically most sports are ran this way. Most high level baseball players seem to play for a team in MLB. Not many other options. And when there is a single entity and enough money is involved things like players union come into reality


Yes boxing would be better off dominated by a single entity then its current **** situation where we have four major sanctioning bodies, retarded weight classes..............(can someone explain the need for a 175 lb, 168 lb, 160 lb, 154 lb, 147 lb with 4 belts for each one? ....talk about meaningless belts and over saturation) we have multiple promoters...nothing is organized tightly.

This is the reason why boxing does terrible in PPVs on average. A few fighters can sell PPVs and the rest can't draw ****. Even UFC can draw well over 200,000 PPV buys with a card from the UK on a Saturday afternoon. A Saturday night fight with Hopkins-Pavlik does under 200,000. How many buys would Klitschko do in the U.S. at 3pm from Germany?

There is no flow to boxing in its promotion. People can't follow it like the UFC,...to an extent which would be like NFL, MLB or even the WWE. They don't promote anyone besides the main event, **** undercards...

I'm not saying it has to be a single entity but anymore than 2 and you have some overkill. Kill off the multiple belts, less weight classes....How about having 2 belts for 135lbs, 145lbs, 155lbs, 165lbs, 180lbs, 200lbs, 260lbs and and super HW if anyone actually cares about them. Yes I believe HW should be capped like MMA. There is no reason a 220 lb fighter should fight a 320 lb fighter. Its stupid....if you can't 260lb you shouldnt be in there.


I don't really buy the MLB comparreson, simply because boxing is not a team sport. In professional team sports, the teams compete for the players which results in pay and opportunity which is more commensurate to their abilities. That is why pro sports teams are known as "franchises," each is actually there own entity competing under the umbrella of the league.

The UFC dominating the sport is more akin to a single promoter dominating boxing. Say that DKP owned the rights to 90% of top fighters and would only let them fight against one another, and for the DKP titles? That is more what is happening in MMA. In other words, both situations are far from ideal.

The "every man for himself" attitude is exactly how boxing got so F'd up.

As long as all the best fighters are in the UFC (which they are with 2 or 3 glaring exceptions and all of them being HW's), then there's no point in cross promoting.

The way it is in the UFC, there's no *****ing over purse splits for months on end, nobody ducks anyone because they have no choice, no padded records, no camps threatening each others families (like that whole Juanma thing) etc. The UFC gives the sport structure which is exactly what it needs.