I’m bored… any of you have any serious questions about religion that are unanswered?

why does the church want to take all our money

What denomination are you Mouse?

Why does Satan keep telling me to kill and eat all the neighborhood pets?

My thing is the irony of terrorists that are saying they are doing they're righteous work for God. I don't think God wants you to blow up people. I thought the crusades were enough.

“Why does the church want to take all our money?”

Well there’s a few points behind this:

1. Your willingness to give cheerfully is more important than the amount you give.
2. If you give to others in need, they will, in turn, help you when you are in need.
3. You should give as a response to Christ, not for anything you can get out of it.
4. How you give reflects your devotion to Christ.

(4. does not only refer to money, he wants you to give him time set aside in your day for devotion and prayer as well. You’ve probably also heard that he wants everything that you are, your mind heart and soul 24/7.)

So it’s not that church wants to take your money, actually you shouldn’t even think like that the closer that you get to Christ. As your faith grows it will be a natural feeling that you have that will prompt you to give to the benefit and sacrifice for your faith. The closer you get to God, money and physical items that this world has to offer no longer becomes a necessity because you learn that God will truly give you what you need and take care of you, if you are willing to sacrifice and give it all to him with faith.

“What denomination are you Mouse?”

Christian.

“My thing is the irony of terrorists that are saying they are doing they're righteous work for God. I don't think God wants you to blow up people. I thought the crusades were enough.”

God does not do that, nor does he promote violence or “living sacrifice/martyrs” in order to get into heaven. That’s due to their brainwashing by their leaders in order to enable a willing participant to carry out their twisted plans for terrorism.

I dunno mouse. Sometimes priests got better rides than us. They sure do have some nice bling bling on em too. I'am sure not all.

I went to catholic high school my pricipal was a priest and he was driving around in a brand new lexus...soemthing fighy going on there don't u think....lots of donations!!!

I dunno mouse. Sometimes priests got better rides than us. They sure do have some nice bling bling on em too. I'am sure not all.

LoL, yea I’ve seen some pretty sweet rides that some Catholic priests are riding around in… and you know who pays for that sweet ride? Their churches tithes, lol. Men that go into the priesthood for the money are going into it for the wrong reasons. I believe the churches tithes should all go to helping others and maintaining the church, while the priest should take just enough for him to live on and nothing more. Unfortunately there’s a lot of priests out there these days who have a skewed vision of the true faith, and they're leading their congregation into their self-centeredness and blindness to the true teachings of God’s word.

*slowly leaving thread*

Yea I'm not a fan of the Catholic religion. I'm more into the humbleness and servant life that Jesus told us to have. My tithes, my time, everything I am, I want to give to others and to God.. not myself.

I want to believe, but I just can't believe those silly stories about Adam & Eve and Noah's Arc.

If I'm a buddist and still live a god life and die, then I go to the afterlife and the christian's were right and it's a christian like after life. Do I still get in?

I dislike church - It has been corrupt throughout history and still is

The day I stopped going to church is when the woman speaking on the microphone said if you do not give in your envelopes you are not a part of the parish - Si i left and did not go to church for like 3 years then I went once or twice over the summer - does nothing for me.

Most churches has askewed the meaning of christianity and I can not deal with all thier bullcrap.

I am a firm believer in god and Jesus, but I am not a believer in the church.

Originally posted by Blue Dawg
I want to believe, but I just can't believe those silly stories about Adam & Eve and Noah's Arc.
Yeah but some of what is in the bible are just stories to guide your life. Nobody really use's the bible as a history base for reasearch because some if based on fact and others are stories.

blue alot of those stories were parables and not meant to be taken literally

Gman, it's pretty historical based. You're wrong.

How was religion "created"? A group of elders in a village, when humankind started to hunt and live in groups, were discussing how to keep everyone in the village in line and how to make them obey and respect the laws. They came up with the idea that the best way to accomplish that was by fear. Fear of a big man in the skies that will punish anybody that wouldn't comply eith his rules and orders.

that my friend is how religion was "created". I believe in God, I do. I just don't believe in "Organized" Religion because I believe it was designed to keep men confused and ignorant.

Back to LOL, Boom and titties. *leaves thread*

Some parts are historical based. Look at david he was one of the most hated rulers ever but he is a hero in the bible.

one day I should start my own religion

One of the things I'am happy about our creator. If any of you guys saw that. Nuno informs me such leud things should be kept in Rotties. My bad.

Originally posted by Kenpo Chris
I dislike church - It has been corrupt throughout history and still is

Most churches has askewed the meaning of christianity and I can not deal with all thier bullcrap.

I am a firm believer in god and Jesus, but I am not a believer in the church.

I'm with you on this. Besides, it says in the Bible that when two or more people come together and discuss God, then they are in "church". You can have your buildings or you can be right where you are. What is important is that you believe.

So were in church right now

Originally posted by Mouse
Gman, it's pretty historical based. You're wrong.

no. depending on your religious BELIEF, determines who is right or wrong with this.

There is no proof unless you believe there is, like UFO's and Ghosts. ('cept dave). My religious belief is that 9 outta ten of the stories in the bible like kane and abel, noah and the ark, etc. are created and passed on to teach about religion and to use as reference so people get a better understanding of what the religion is trying to promote/teach its followers.

Your religion might promote your belief that these events actually occured.

Religion is a horrible topic for forums either way, imo. People feel too strongly and it creates tension, disagreement, and heated arguments.

The more you let yourself be stubborn, the closer you get to hardening your heart like a rock. Once your heart is hardened, it’s ‘almost’ impossible for it to become pliable enough for God to show you the truth behind his teachings. There are over 200 prophesies in the bible that can be proved within the bible alongside a good history book in a library.

If you demand from me to list every single one in order for you to believe, along with the historical time lines that prove them true, then you’re heart is hardened and even if I do show you you will still not believe. But I’ll pray for the softening of your hearts as I should do for anyone in your situation. Prophetic text coincides with that of the stories told. Likewise, if you do not believe the prophesy nor the stories told in the bible, there’s nothing I can say to you that you will believe if you don’t even believe what is said in the bible word for word. There are parables and they are labeled parables, but the stories that are told as fact and historically true then you should believe them as fact and not rule them off as “parables” simply because you don’t have faith that it actually happened.

I believe in God, I do. I just don't believe in "Organized" Religion because I believe it was designed to keep men confused and ignorant

Yea, you’re part of the newest click in religion these days. Against organized religion, believe in A god, but you take what you like from different religions… you take the parts that make sense to you and which makes you happy. Sacrifice in this newest movement of Scientology and such, is a word that is foreign to them. But don’t feel bad, a lot of movie stars are doing this to, so it must be the right way right?

Simply put, people are straying away from the Christian religion because the sacrifice, the laws, and the truth won’t always make them happy and make life like a chocolate-sunday. I see a lot of people taking bits and pieces from different religions and applying it to their life, not really being disciplined at all and thinking of “what will make me happy right now” syndrome. Definitely down hill but it’s a religious movement that caught on these days because sacrifice, suffering, tithing, and setting aside time for a disciplined time with THE God, doesn’t apply. You can still have sex before marriage, drink, drugs, cuss, and dishonor the true God and not give it a second thought; because you don’t believe in sacrificing what makes you happy in order to get closer to God and following exactly what the laws in the bible command…because it doesn’t make you happy right away.

Truth hurts doesn't it.

Who the hell are you? A couple of months ago you were into this BSDM crap and now your a priest......What happened on you road trip?

If you want to change the subject, start a new thread. Do you agree with what I said above?

Why Opus Dei sucks a lot?? Why I hate the church?? Why I hate religions??

My moms church is cool. They have a female priest, let gays in the church and have uni. profs do lectures at the church. Plus they get to rock.

Originally posted by Mouse
If you want to change the subject, start a new thread. Do you agree with what I said above?

I agree with Bub. Religions are run by humans. I have trust issues with humans.

So you didn't read what I said in my last few posts.

I read them, but simply writing something doesn't make them so.

Originally posted by Blue Dawg
I read them, but simply writing something doesn't make them so.

Some people are religious, some are spritual. Big difference

I am neither....I believe in nothing....I am trapped in the void.

Originally posted by Kenpo Chris
I dislike church - It has been corrupt throughout history and still is

The day I stopped going to church is when the woman speaking on the microphone said if you do not give in your envelopes you are not a part of the parish - Si i left and did not go to church for like 3 years then I went once or twice over the summer - does nothing for me.

Most churches has askewed the meaning of christianity and I can not deal with all thier bullcrap.

I am a firm believer in god and Jesus, but I am not a believer in the church.

Jesus said to build his church, so denouncing what he said to build
is hypocritical ya? or at least contradictory.

Did he mean an actual building or did he mean spread his word? Just curious how it was written.

The church is the body of Christ.. the union of believers, it doesn't have to be a building.. actually it has nothing to do with a building.

Church(the building) is just a meeting place, right?

Originally posted by Mouse
The church is the body of Christ.. the union of believers, it doesn't have to be a building.. actually it has nothing to do with a building. Great statement! Very true!!

Originally posted by Mouse
The church is the body of Christ.. the union of believers, it doesn't have to be a building.. actually it has nothing to do with a building.

Not exactly (at least in the catholic religion), the church is a temple were the chirstians meet others like them or it's the meaning of the Christ "army", the body of Christ is the "ostia" (bread+wine)...

This reply to what i respectfully wrote is kinda annoying. Maybe if you can't respect the religious beliefs of another, you should refer to George Carlin and stick to the 1st commandment (modified) of "Thou Shall keep they religion to thyself". That is all.

Originally posted by Mouse
The more you let yourself be stubborn, the closer you get to hardening your heart like a rock. Once your heart is hardened, it’s ‘almost’ impossible for it to become pliable enough for God to show you the truth behind his teachings. There are over 200 prophesies in the bible that can be proved within the bible alongside a good history book in a library.

If you demand from me to list every single one in order for you to believe, along with the historical time lines that prove them true, then you’re heart is hardened and even if I do show you you will still not believe. But I’ll pray for the softening of your hearts as I should do for anyone in your situation. Prophetic text coincides with that of the stories told. Likewise, if you do not believe the prophesy nor the stories told in the bible, there’s nothing I can say to you that you will believe if you don’t even believe what is said in the bible word for word. There are parables and they are labeled parables, but the stories that are told as fact and historically true then you should believe them as fact and not rule them off as “parables” simply because you don’t have faith that it actually happened.

Numbers 16:26 talks about never siding with anything that is evil. This includes false teachings by different religions. Because they are against the truth and have formed their own truth, I will not side with it because it is evil. It may look good, it may smell good, and it even may make your life happy.. but if it’s not written in the bible and that religion teaches things that are not in God’s word, yes, I am against it.

And as far as religions created by man and not the Christian faith which was designed by the one true God, read Colossians 4:20 until you hit chapter 3. It’s a short read.

Bottom line the bible doesn’t preach to keep it to yourself. It’s calls every man and woman into the “priesthood” and also teaches to hate everything evil. Evil being against God’s teachings.

And the church is not a “building” like the catholic faith preaches, that’s not what the bible tells us. The church is within all of our hearts as Christians. We can have a church if two or more Christians who believe come together in the act of supporting each other and sharing God with one another. The “church” is misrepresented these days by buildings when in fact when Christ talked about it he was referring to the unity of fellow Christians.

Originally posted by Mouse

And the church is not a “building” like the catholic faith preaches, that’s not what the bible tells us. WTF? I'm Catholic and I find this kinda disturbing. Why on Earth are you bad mouthing another religion?? This is the only problem I ahve with religion. One of the first thing Catholicism teaches is to not judge people, but it seems every "religious" person seems to do just that