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mickyward5656
02-05-2009, 03:27 PM
What fighter do you think had the most heart in the history of boxing?
I have to say Micky Ward... He was a B class fighter at best, but everytime he entered the ring he was willing to die. I believe he was a true ring warrior.

Others- Arturo Gatti, Rocky Marciano, and Joe Frazier...
What do you guys think???

RAESAAD
02-05-2009, 03:28 PM
Not to be a stickler but it's heart. And Joe Frazier had a huge one.

MR.CHICANITO
02-05-2009, 03:30 PM
What fighter do you think had the most hart in the history of boxing?
I have to say Micky Ward... He was a B class fighter at best, but everytime he entered the ring he was willing to die. I believe he was a true ring warrior.

Others- Arturo Gatti, Rocky Marciano, and Joe Frazier...
What do you guys think???

evander the real deal holyfield,arturo gatti,diego corrales,marco antonio barrera,erik morales,micky ward,rocky marciano,jake lamotta, too many fighters to name bro

mickyward5656
02-05-2009, 03:36 PM
evander the real deal holyfield,arturo gatti,diego corrales,marco antonio barrera,erik morales,micky ward,rocky marciano,jake lamotta, too many fighters to name bro

I dont think you can say jake lamotta, since he threw alot of fights.

TheGreatA
02-05-2009, 03:38 PM
Battling Nelson
Carmen Basilio
Muhammad Ali

cotto16
02-05-2009, 04:10 PM
For me its Librado Andrade, also Rocky Marciano, Carlos Monzon, Vito Antuofermo and Fernando Vargas come to mind

1SILVA
02-05-2009, 06:02 PM
What fighter do you think had the most heart in the history of boxing?
I have to say Micky Ward... He was a B class fighter at best, but everytime he entered the ring he was willing to die. I believe he was a true ring warrior.

Others- Arturo Gatti, Rocky Marciano, and Joe Frazier...
What do you guys think???

Some guys who had tons of heart-Carl Thompson, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Randall Cobb, George Chuvalo, Joe Frazier, Riddick Bowe, Evander Holyfield, Danny Lopez, Bobby Chacon, Bazooka Limon, Rolando Navarette, Cornelius Boza Edwards, Rogers Mtagwa, and Vito Antoufermo

TheGreatA
02-05-2009, 06:04 PM
How could I forget Bobby Chacon? I don't think I've ever seen a fighter come back from as many beatings as he did in his prime.

Grand Champ
02-05-2009, 06:08 PM
Coralles, Gatti, Ward, Vargas, Ali & Holyfield .. These guys had such a heart of a warrior..! Fought everybody and were willing to die in the ring.

Knighte
02-05-2009, 06:27 PM
Gotta go with The Rock baby! No skills, no size, no grace, and yet he became the only undefeated champ in boxing. It was as if he loved pain.

them_apples
02-05-2009, 08:16 PM
Corrales, Rocky, Holyfield..Ali, Frazier

andrewcuff
02-05-2009, 08:23 PM
I'm inclined to say Ali for 2 reasons:

1) No one stays on the ropes against George Foreman for 8 rounds without having a huge heart!

2) He described the Thrilla in Manila as the closest thing to death

Although the others in with a big shout, especially Holyfield & Corrales for their epic Round 10s!

sugarshanenas
02-05-2009, 10:56 PM
Meldrick Taylor

MANGLER
02-05-2009, 11:06 PM
Holyfield 4 sho.

PED User
02-05-2009, 11:31 PM
Impossible to answer. How do you measure if Arturo Gatti fighting with his eyes nearly shut and coming back to knock out Wilson Rodriguez means he has more heart than Matthew Saad Muhammad, who knocked out Marvin Johnson with a badly cut eye for the title in their rematch? Or Archie Moore coming back from 4 KDs to beat Yvon Durelle?

Tommy Morrison knocked out Joe Hipp with a broken jaw and broken hand. Henry Armstrong fought without a mouthpiece and swallowed a lot of blood in his win over Lou Ambers. Diego Corrales was someone I actually believed when he said he was willing to fight to the death. He seemed that crazy.

JC Warrior
02-05-2009, 11:31 PM
Don't think there's one head-and-shoulders above the rest, but the best I ever saw were Hearns, Gatti, Kevin Kelley, Ward, and Corrales...seeing him vs Castillo reminded me of Hagler's line on legendary nights "if you wanted to get me outta there you better hit me with that ring post..." Corrales embodied that possibly more than anyone ever had to.

¿?枯葉剤¿?
02-05-2009, 11:58 PM
I'm inclined to say Ali for 2 reasons:

1) No one stays on the ropes against George Foreman for 8 rounds without having a huge heart!

2) He described the Thrilla in Manila as the closest thing to death

Although the others in with a big shout, especially Holyfield & Corrales for their epic Round 10s!

............/Thread.

mickyward5656
02-06-2009, 02:39 PM
I have to say the ward-gatti trilogy was amazing. Thoes two warriors most likely took alot of years off of each others lives in thoes three fights...

PLATE
02-06-2009, 07:15 PM
How about Rocky Balboa? That boy rose from the bottom rung, took punishment that would literally kill any other human being, endured the death of his beloved manager, suffered the trauma of having a brother-in-law like Paulie, had a son who seemed to change like a shapeshifter, had his young protege turn on him and practically beat him to death in the street, kept fighting till he was past 60, and still managed to become one of the greatest heavyweight champs the world has ever seen?

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PED User
02-07-2009, 12:43 AM
How about Rocky Balboa? That boy rose from the bottom rung, took punishment that would literally kill any other human being, endured the death of his beloved manager, suffered the trauma of having a brother-in-law like Paulie, had a son who seemed to change like a shapeshifter, had his young protege turn on him and practically beat him to death in the street, kept fighting till he was past 60, and still managed to become one of the greatest heavyweight champs the world has ever seen?

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Definitely.

Did you see how he aged about 4 years from Rocky's plane ride home from Russia and went from a chubby brown-haired kid to a skinny black-haired one?

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/Rocky/images//thumb/a/ae/RockyJr.jpg/250px-RockyJr.jpg

http://www.mylifetime.com/files/imagecache/photo_gallery_featured/files/images/e-gall-stallone-395x298.jpg

jeff2
02-07-2009, 09:24 AM
1.carmen basillio
2.jake la motta
4.rocky graciano
5.rocky marciano
6.marvin hagler
7.micky ward
8.jersey joe walcott
9.muhammed ali
10.arturo gatti
its objective folks what do you think of my top ten????modern fighters who well deserve a mention are,diego corrales(rest in peace great friend)mike tyson,peter buckley(don't know him ?check him out..)
ben tackie,jeff lacy,micheal gomez,jesse james jeija,AMIR KHAN..only kidding..holly **** i forgot hollyfield,make him number er..well its done now,,holla people he well beat that giant freak..haye sort it..

rorymac
02-07-2009, 11:46 AM
remove walcott, hagler and ali.

Of that bunch, prob Gatti, LaMotta or Ward.
The fighter with the best heart of all time is Joe Calzaghe.

mickyward5656
02-07-2009, 12:56 PM
1.carmen basillio
2.jake la motta
4.rocky graciano
5.rocky marciano
6.marvin hagler
7.micky ward
8.jersey joe walcott
9.muhammed ali
10.arturo gatti
its objective folks what do you think of my top ten????modern fighters who well deserve a mention are,diego corrales(rest in peace great friend)mike tyson,peter buckley(don't know him ?check him out..)
ben tackie,jeff lacy,micheal gomez,jesse james jeija,AMIR KHAN..only kidding..holly **** i forgot hollyfield,make him number er..well its done now,,holla people he well beat that giant freak..haye sort it..


No way you can say tyson, he was the complete oposite of heart.

res
02-07-2009, 02:26 PM
Not to be a stickler but it's heart. And Joe Frazier had a huge one.

I don't know, I think there were a few fighters that had a thing for livestock. Guess he changed his mind and decided to go with asking about "heart"

Proud American
03-03-2009, 04:54 PM
Gotta go with The Rock baby! No skills, no size, no grace, and yet he became the only undefeated champ in boxing. It was as if he loved pain.

Cute until you realize he did lose, For one Roland Lastarza beat him in their first about and so did Ezzard Charles, Ted Lowry a bum who came into their first fight with the incredible record of 59-48-9 beat him. Maybe you people should learn to read and look up these things. Getting gift wins because you are deal with the italian mafia really doesn't prove jack.

Anyway Riddick Bowe showed Great heart in the Golota fights, Foreman showed great courage in his fights with Ron Lyle, Evander Holyfield, Michael Moorer, and Alex Stewart, Pierre Coetzer showed incredible heart in his fights with Bowe, Foreman and Bruno. Few humans could take that type of a beating and still be on their feet at the end. Julian Letterough always showed heart in his fights. Joe Frazier was mentioned already always showed heart. You could name countless other american warriors who showed great heart but never got credit for it because they were just that "American" but the list would be too long for me to type it all.

F l i c k e r
03-03-2009, 05:21 PM
Gotta go with The Rock baby! No skills, no size, no grace, and yet he became the only undefeated champ in boxing. It was as if he loved pain.

Cute until you realize he did lose, For one Roland Lastarza beat him in their first about and so did Ezzard Charles, Ted Lowry a bum who came into their first fight with the incredible record of 59-48-9 beat him. Maybe you people should learn to read and look up these things. Getting gift wins because you are deal with the italian mafia really doesn't prove jack.

Honestly I dont know if you are praising Marciano or dissing him. Your like standing on both sides of the fence at once and its confusing. But if you are, Maciano never dealed with the Italian mafia. The mafia came to him and he told them "they were a disgrace to the Italian [race]." and threw them out of his hotel room because they would consider fixing fights.

Rocky never had fixed fights and never loss in his PROFESSIONAL career. He lost in his amatuer career but once he went pro, he could never be beaten.

Rocky probably had the most heart in my opinion. He was like Rocky Balboa(even though the movie wasn't based on him), he had no footwork, had no skill, or technique, and would defend punches with his chin. And it wasn't like he would just dominate, he was dropped numberous times in his career and then would come back with a Susie-Q to win the fight.

dde91
03-03-2009, 05:33 PM
remove walcott, hagler and ali.

Of that bunch, prob Gatti, LaMotta or Ward.
The fighter with the best heart of all time is Joe Calzaghe.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/images/faces/tool.gif:fing26::fing26::fing26::

Kid McCoy
03-03-2009, 06:22 PM
Cute until you realize he did lose, For one Roland Lastarza beat him in their first about and so did Ezzard Charles, Ted Lowry a bum who came into their first fight with the incredible record of 59-48-9 beat him. Maybe you people should learn to read and look up these things. Getting gift wins because you are deal with the italian mafia really doesn't prove jack.

Anyway Riddick Bowe showed Great heart in the Golota fights,

If Riddick Bowe had half Marciano's heart and dedication he'd now be regarded as one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, instead of a wasted talent who's more likely to be inducted to Burger King's Hall of Fame than the one in Canastota.

I'd be interested to know when and where you saw the first LaStarza fight, since I wasn't aware that film of it was even in circulation. In any case, he gave both LaStarza and Charles a rematch, and KO'd both.

Proud American
03-03-2009, 09:43 PM
If Riddick Bowe had half Marciano's heart and dedication he'd now be regarded as one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, instead of a wasted talent who's more likely to be inducted to Burger King's Hall of Fame than the one in Canastota.

I'd be interested to know when and where you saw the first LaStarza fight, since I wasn't aware that film of it was even in circulation. In any case, he gave both LaStarza and Charles a rematch, and KO'd both.

Maybe Rocky Marciano should of had heart to fight guys who wernet pushing 40, and if Riddick Bowe was white people would consider him a all time great. If Marciano was black he would be called a bum like like Marciano actually is.

Which is more impressive Riddick Bowe beating a prime Holyfield or Marciano beating a shop worn Charles and a no talent loser like LaStarza? Are you trying to tell me a 6'5 240 pound Bowe wouldnt have beat LaStarza or Charles? Are you trying to tell me if Bowe would of fought the fighters Marciano fought he wouldnt have won them all? If Marciano would of fought the fighters Bowe fought he would have a losing record.

Anyway Bowe had enough heart to fight the 6'4 240 pound Golota and get the shyt kicked out of him and not quit. That takes heart. Fighting 40 year old men and punching them in back of the head like Marciano did most of time doesnt really take much courage. Watch some of his fights and maybe you would learn something.