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jakkups
01-26-2009, 08:39 PM
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Fights
Main Card
Welterweight Championship bout:Georges St-Pierre vs. B.J. Penn
Light Heavyweight bout:Lyoto Machida vs. Thiago Silva
Light Heavyweight bout:Stephan Bonnar vs. Jon Jones
Welterweight bout:Karo Parisyan vs. Dong Hyun Kim
Lightweight bout:Nate Diaz vs. Clay Guida

Preliminary Card
Welterweight bout:Jon Fitch vs. Akihiro Gono
Lightweight bout:Thiago Tavares vs. Manvel Gamburyan
Welterweight bout:John Howard vs. Chris Wilson
Heavyweight bout:Jake O'Brien vs. Christian Wellisch
Welterweight bout:Matt Arroyo vs. Dan Cramer

Primetime
Episode 1
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Episode 2
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Episode 3
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Dana's Blog
26 January 2009
Features Mike V, Jens Pulver, Urijah Faber, Robbie Lawler, Donald Cerrone, Jamie Varner, Duane Ludwig, Caol Uno, Mike Brown & KID YAMAMOTO!
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27 January 2009
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28 January 2009
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29 January 2009
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Bonus Blog
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31 January 2009
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vinnie7731
01-26-2009, 09:03 PM
i think this fight will be somewhat like their last fight except bj wins by tko.
i think if bj comes in better shape then in their first fight and can go 4 or 5 rounds if needed, i think he wins. bj will frustrate gsp with his superior boxing skills, and eventually win by tko. at least i hope so cause im a fan of his. although i used to dislike gsp, he has grown on me over the last few years.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-26-2009, 10:47 PM
Daang, Kid Yamamoto was STYLIN'. (Glad you put his name in caps, I've been waiting to hear something from him in the US for years.)

Some very BJ Penn heavy odds there from Pro fighters. They obviously know what they're talking about, but I'll laugh if Mike Brown was the only one who gets it right. :haha:

Dana's Blog is so badass, nice post Jakkups.

kswizzy99
01-26-2009, 11:21 PM
well, alot of mma fighters are going to be wrong this weekend. GSP is going to layeth the smack down on bj. there aren't anymore surprises and GSP is much improved from their last meeting. I have GSP by 4th round ground-and-pound tko.

jakkups
01-27-2009, 12:06 AM
Daang, Kid Yamamoto was STYLIN'. (Glad you put his name in caps, I've been waiting to hear something from him in the US for years.)

Some very BJ Penn heavy odds there from Pro fighters. They obviously know what they're talking about, but I'll laugh if Mike Brown was the only one who gets it right. :haha:

Dana's Blog is so badass, nice post Jakkups.

Knew you'd love Kid's cameo. The WEC needs to introduce this guy to the USA already and build towards a long overdue Faber/Kid match.

Left Hook Tua
01-27-2009, 01:28 AM
st. pierre is gonna get ****ed up.

poor canuck.

jakkups
01-27-2009, 07:34 AM
Added todays blog

Dice
01-27-2009, 02:38 PM
Akihiro Gono is a pimp

TRAVI$
01-27-2009, 02:40 PM
I really can't call it.

Savino
01-27-2009, 02:47 PM
I really can't call it.

I'm the same. I think will go with GSP. GSP has improved so much since the last fight were everyone only seems to be saying, "well if the real BJ turns up" I'm gonna go with a GSP win by 4th or 5th knock out.

Dorian
01-27-2009, 03:09 PM
Georges St Pierre stops Penn in 3-4!

Moon
01-27-2009, 07:43 PM
GSP will outweigh BJ by 15 to 17 lbs at fight time. Those extra pounds will be 100% conditioned and fully rehydrated and ready. GSP says that's about 12 lb heavier than when they first met. Quite a difference.

I say BJ's evolution since there first fight will not be enough to beat the present version of GSP. Although I believe BJ's claim that his conditioning is much improved, but I don't believe that's going to make the difference. BJ has abused his body for yrs and he can't significantly make up for that. Also his conditioning training involves sparring/fighting for 6 rounds. He doesn't train with a strength and conditioning coach, he simply puts in six rounds and expects that will give him the level of conditioning required to top GSP.

Recall their first fight, when BJ was still very fresh in Round 1, he was facing a near-blind version of GSP that was ripe for the taking and BJ couldn't do it. There's nothing he'll bring this time either to beat GSP, except a punch that "catches" the guy, which might very well happen.

BJ will try and he'll want to keep this fight standup. There's some people who believe he'll do it too, based on his performance against Sherk. Well, little Sherk has the shortest arms in MMA, GSP doesn't. This improved version of Penn needed three full rounds of HIS fight (meaning standup/boxing) to beat Sherk. GSP did it about half that time, taking the wrestler to the floor and controlling him.

Penn left the Welter scene due to back-to-back losses to GSP and then Hughes. He's gotten used to fighting little guys since then, all True Lightweights. He's beaten an old Pulver, a 2nd-tier Stephenson and stubby-armed Sherk. Defeating those opponents doesn't translate to success back at Welter, where a peaking GSP waits with about a 15 pound weight advantage.

Look for it to go the floor after BJ has some ealrly success with his excellent jab, which is probably the best in the UFC, including Silva's. But, GSP will assert himself and go to the floor, where he'll stay busy and Penn will tire-out.

JabSandwich
01-27-2009, 08:52 PM
GSP and this is why. other than being the best functional wrestler in the ufc GSP isn't the best in any one area (striking, jits, etc). he is, however, the best athlete. no one mixes it up better and he excels and making his opponent fight HIS fite. how many times in his career has GSP danced to another fighter's tune? how many times has he avenged those losses?

penn has better hands but GSP has a far more well rounded striking game, GSP is an infinitely better wrestler, and BJ has better jits. the extent of BJ vaunted takedown defense is his freakish flexibility, thats it. and although BJ's jits is better than St. Pierre's, St. Pierre still has a dece game.

seeing as how a bowl of bacon fat could outcondition Penn, theres no chance of GSP gettin tired. if you can 5 hard rounds with Fitch, u can go 100 hard rounds with Penn.

having to think about wats coming next (kick, punch, takedown, knee, etc) is going to to be too much for BJ and he's going to get overwhelmed. even if Penn shows up in outstanding condition (we all know theres a better chance of Don King getting a haircut) GSP wins within the distance.

kswizzy99
01-28-2009, 01:55 AM
GSP will outweigh BJ by 15 to 17 lbs at fight time. Those extra pounds will be 100% conditioned and fully rehydrated and ready. GSP says that's about 12 lb heavier than when they first met. Quite a difference.

I say BJ's evolution since there first fight will not be enough to beat the present version of GSP. Although I believe BJ's claim that his conditioning is much improved, but I don't believe that's going to make the difference. BJ has abused his body for yrs and he can't significantly make up for that. Also his conditioning training involves sparring/fighting for 6 rounds. He doesn't train with a strength and conditioning coach, he simply puts in six rounds and expects that will give him the level of conditioning required to top GSP.

Recall their first fight, when BJ was still very fresh in Round 1, he was facing a near-blind version of GSP that was ripe for the taking and BJ couldn't do it. There's nothing he'll bring this time either to beat GSP, except a punch that "catches" the guy, which might very well happen.

BJ will try and he'll want to keep this fight standup. There's some people who believe he'll do it too, based on his performance against Sherk. Well, little Sherk has the shortest arms in MMA, GSP doesn't. This improved version of Penn needed three full rounds of HIS fight (meaning standup/boxing) to beat Sherk. GSP did it about half that time, taking the wrestler to the floor and controlling him.

Penn left the Welter scene due to back-to-back losses to GSP and then Hughes. He's gotten used to fighting little guys since then, all True Lightweights. He's beaten an old Pulver, a 2nd-tier Stephenson and stubby-armed Sherk. Defeating those opponents doesn't translate to success back at Welter, where a peaking GSP waits with about a 15 pound weight advantage.

Look for it to go the floor after BJ has some ealrly success with his excellent jab, which is probably the best in the UFC, including Silva's. But, GSP will assert himself and go to the floor, where he'll stay busy and Penn will tire-out.

this is a damn good fight analysis. there is really nothing left to add to this. Penn needs to catch GSP with a lucky punch like sherk or else there is no way of him winning. GSP dominates in every way, shape and form.

Great Post.

jakkups
01-28-2009, 07:07 PM
added todays blog

gamerpinoy89
01-28-2009, 08:16 PM
BJ Penn all the way i hate gsp he's way to mouthy

jakkups
01-29-2009, 12:37 PM
Added todays blog

Moon
01-29-2009, 07:08 PM
BJ Penn all the way i hate gsp he's way to mouthy

GSP is too mouthy. Now that's a different take!

jakkups
01-29-2009, 08:33 PM
added final primetime episode

YUHHHHHHH!
01-30-2009, 01:17 AM
The end of that final episode was pretty epic. Seeing BJ choke up like that and those quotes from GSP really show the emotion in this. Two warriors for sure, this fight won't disappoint regardless of the outcome.

jakkups
01-30-2009, 01:33 PM
added bonus blog, shows interview with Bisping on the set of TUF 9 as well as KID YAMAMOTO!! in the UFC training center.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-30-2009, 05:56 PM
I was hoping for more of Kid, but whatever. Looks like he's in cahoots with Dana, hope to see him fight in the WEC soon.

To be honest, I can see him delivering KTFO victories over Mike Brown, Pulver, Faber and Garcia. I don't think any of them have what it takes to stand with kid. Not talking TKO either, he has some serious power in those hands.

jakkups
01-30-2009, 07:07 PM
I was hoping for more of Kid, but whatever. Looks like he's in cahoots with Dana, hope to see him fight in the WEC soon.

To be honest, I can see him delivering KTFO victories over Mike Brown, Pulver, Faber and Garcia. I don't think any of them have what it takes to stand with kid. Not talking TKO either, he has some serious power in those hands.

I agree, for a guy who walks around at 143 at most he has put a beatdown against bonafide 155lb fighters. With the way he fights as well he'll be a surefire star with Zuffa behind him. Bring him over I say, hell bring a bunch of them over.

jakkups
01-30-2009, 08:07 PM
The full weigh-in results included:

MAIN CARD

* Welterweight champ Georges St. Pierre (170) vs. lightweight champ B.J. Penn (168) -- for welterweight title
* Lyoto Machida (206) vs. Thiago Silva (206)
* Karo Parisyan (170) vs. Dong Hyun Kim (171)
* Nate Diaz (156) vs. Clay Guida (156)
* Stephan Bonnar (206) vs. Jon Jones (206)

PRELIMINARY CARD

* Jon Fitch (171) vs. Akihiro Gono (171)
* Manny Gamburyan (155) vs. Thiago Tavares (155)
* John Howard (171) vs. Chris Wilson (170)
* Jake O'Brien (205) vs. Christian Wellisch (206)
* Matt Arroyo (171) vs. Dan Cramer (171)

jakkups
01-30-2009, 09:44 PM
How they put Parisyan/Kim on the main card instead of Fitch/Gono is beyond me. Man I hope we get to see it.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-30-2009, 10:08 PM
I agree, for a guy who walks around at 143 at most he has put a beatdown against bonafide 155lb fighters. With the way he fights as well he'll be a surefire star with Zuffa behind him. Bring him over I say, hell bring a bunch of them over.

For real, why not try and sign some more Japanese fighters? It's almost like they're the extreme of every aspect. If they are a striker, they are an explosive striker. If they're a Submission fighter, they have some wicked and innovative ground work. Kind of goes back to that Samurai perfection way of life. If you're going to do something, master it, right?

The full weigh-in results included:

MAIN CARD

* Welterweight champ Georges St. Pierre (170) vs. lightweight champ B.J. Penn (168) -- for welterweight title
* Lyoto Machida (206) vs. Thiago Silva (206)
* Karo Parisyan (170) vs. Dong Hyun Kim (171)
* Nate Diaz (156) vs. Clay Guida (156)
* Stephan Bonnar (206) vs. Jon Jones (206)

PRELIMINARY CARD

* Jon Fitch (171) vs. Akihiro Gono (171)
* Manny Gamburyan (155) vs. Thiago Tavares (155)
* John Howard (171) vs. Chris Wilson (170)
* Jake O'Brien (205) vs. Christian Wellisch (206)
* Matt Arroyo (171) vs. Dan Cramer (171)

How they put Parisyan/Kim on the main card instead of Fitch/Gono is beyond me. Man I hope we get to see it.

I'm really looking forward to both Parisyan/Kim and Fitch/Gono. Considering Fitch is probably more well known to the casual fan, watching him fight a funky Japanese dude would sell tons. You think Dana is really THAT stingy over Fitch being reluctant to sign that exclusive rights contract? I'm fine with watching Karo get derailed, but I think we'll get to enjoy both of these fights. There's no way any of those other people on the Undercard are Main Card worthy ATM.

PS: I think that Silva will expose a weakness in Machida's style. Silva is just too tough to try and keep at bay.

jakkups
01-30-2009, 10:27 PM
For real, why not try and sign some more Japanese fighters? It's almost like they're the extreme of every aspect. If they are a striker, they are an explosive striker. If they're a Submission fighter, they have some wicked and innovative ground work. Kind of goes back to that Samurai perfection way of life. If you're going to do something, master it, right?

Absolutely. Those Featherweights, Bantamweights and Flyweights are like dogs in a pit. Always looking for the kill, always high-paced and constant action. I'll be honest, sometimes when they get into there exchanges wherever the fight goes I lose track of whats going on unless I'm concentrating on the screen alone.

Bringing them over to the states and giving them a national platform would do wonders for the WEC IMO. It would completely shake up the divisions in North America alone and the cards would, 9 times out of 10, be value for money.


I'm really looking forward to both Parisyan/Kim and Fitch/Gono. Considering Fitch is probably more well known to the casual fan, watching him fight a funky Japanese dude would sell tons. You think Dana is really THAT stingy over Fitch being reluctant to sign that exclusive rights contract? I'm fine with watching Karo get derailed, but I think we'll get to enjoy both of these fights. There's no way any of those other people on the Undercard are Main Card worthy ATM.

PS: I think that Silva will expose a weakness in Machida's style. Silva is just too tough to try and keep at bay.

Who knows what the reasoning behind Fitch being there is. I just hope we get to see it. I can see Karo/Kim being a competitive one but I just think Fitch/Gono is more worthy of a spot on the main card.

P.S. He has to find a weakness first. And if Ortiz, Franklin, Penn, Bonnar, Soko among others couldn't then I don't see Silva doing so.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-30-2009, 11:05 PM
Absolutely. Those Featherweights, Bantamweights and Flyweights are like dogs in a pit. Always looking for the kill, always high-paced and constant action. I'll be honest, sometimes when they get into there exchanges wherever the fight goes I lose track of whats going on unless I'm concentrating on the screen alone.

Bringing them over to the states and giving them a national platform would do wonders for the WEC IMO. It would completely shake up the divisions in North America alone and the cards would, 9 times out of 10, be value for money.



Who knows what the reasoning behind Fitch being there is. I just hope we get to see it. I can see Karo/Kim being a competitive one but I just think Fitch/Gono is more worthy of a spot on the main card.

P.S. He has to find a weakness first. And if Ortiz, Franklin, Penn, Bonnar, Soko among others couldn't then I don't see Silva doing so.

WEC has no where to go but up. IMO once it gets to a bigger network, it will skyrocket. Versus really strikes me as the 'Bargain Bin' of sports channels. More of a Redneck's wet dream 90% of the day.

And we all know about BJ fighting Lyoto. BJ was up far too much weight. He shouldn't even have fought Lyoto. But when I look at Silva, I see something in every situation that I don't in all of the others.

Don't make me explain Ortiz. He did great in his day, but he has been exposed by well rounded athletes as what he really is - a wrestler trying to fight.

When it comes to Franklin, we see Rich as a brawler-boxer. We all know what happens to a brawler-boxer when going against a technical striker, let alone a Karate striker.

Bonnar is indeed a tough guy who can take one Hell of a punch, but I honestly don't think his style is good for that of Machida. Bonnar is a straight forward puncher with a lack of head movement. Not to mention, the fight wasn't exactly a landslide either. It was a cut that cost Bonnar the fight.

We both know that Sokoudjou's career was hyped on two flash KO's over Arona and Nogueira. But aside from those two wins, can you really think of anything significant? I can't. His last victory was due to injury, this guy is a boxer. Nothing more, nothing less.

Thiago Silva brings something to the table that nobody else Machida has fought could. Level of Aggression. He's a young blood Muay Thai striker with the capabilities of knocking someone's head off. Nobody else Machida has fought can cut the ring off with kicks like Silva. IMO TKO R2. I can see him catching Machida with a high kick while he is circling out.

jakkups
01-30-2009, 11:19 PM
WEC has no where to go but up. IMO once it gets to a bigger network, it will skyrocket. Versus really strikes me as the 'Bargain Bin' of sports channels. More of a Redneck's wet dream 90% of the day.

And we all know about BJ fighting Lyoto. BJ was up far too much weight. He shouldn't even have fought Lyoto. But when I look at Silva, I see something in every situation that I don't in all of the others.

Don't make me explain Ortiz. He did great in his day, but he has been exposed by well rounded athletes as what he really is - a wrestler trying to fight.

When it comes to Franklin, we see Rich as a brawler-boxer. We all know what happens to a brawler-boxer when going against a technical striker, let alone a Karate striker.

Bonnar is indeed a tough guy who can take one Hell of a punch, but I honestly don't think his style is good for that of Machida. Bonnar is a straight forward puncher with a lack of head movement. Not to mention, the fight wasn't exactly a landslide either. It was a cut that cost Bonnar the fight.

We both know that Sokoudjou's career was hyped on two flash KO's over Arona and Nogueira. But aside from those two wins, can you really think of anything significant? I can't. His last victory was due to injury, this guy is a boxer. Nothing more, nothing less.

Thiago Silva brings something to the table that nobody else Machida has fought could. Level of Aggression. He's a young blood Muay Thai striker with the capabilities of knocking someone's head off. Nobody else Machida has fought can cut the ring off with kicks like Silva. IMO TKO R2. I can see him catching Machida with a high kick while he is circling out.

Very good analysis Bricks. However, for all that Silva brings, we must understand that Machida brings a style that not even Silva has been in front of before. Machida's advantage with Silva's aggression is that he seemingly has the ability to make someones strength there weakness and on a few occasions their undoing. Silva showed that he is fallable against Mendes. Yes he came back and put his stamp on the guy decisively, however Mendes was out of his league and is knowhere near the fighter that Machida is. Same can be said for Irvin, Alexander, Drwal or for that matter any fighter he fought prior to his UFC career. In fact alot of his opponents have lost more fights than they have won and are pretty much way below average skill wise. Machida has fought the tougher competition, the more live opponents and and although they have the same amount of fights, Machida has the more high-profile and proven opponents most notably his wins against 3 UFC champions.

It's really a big step up for Silva more than it is Machida. What's a shame is that according to the guys on ESPN they were told that the winner won't be getting the next title shot.

jakkups
01-31-2009, 10:48 PM
Fights so far. . .

Matt Arroyo vs. Dan Cramer
Round 1
Arroyo is keeping a distance. Cramer shoots in and scores a takedown. Arroyo latches on an armbar. Cramer defends well. Cramer escapes and is in Arroyo's guard. He lands several punches. Arroyo tries a triangle. Cramer defends and lands more punches. Round ends with more punches from Cramer. Sherdog.com scores the frame 10-9 for Cramer.

Round 2
They stand and circle. Arroyo tries a shot, but nothing. They clinch. Cramer drags him down. In Arroyo's guard, Cramer lands more punches. Not much action. A few more strikes from Cramer in Arroyo's gusts. The crowd is growing restless. Round ends with Cramer landing strikes from within Arroyo's guard. Arroyo's face is swollen. 10-9 for Cramer.

Round 3
Arroyo shoots in but is stuffed. He trips Cramer and falls into his guard. Cramer tries a gogoplata. Arroyo defends. Arroyo sweeps out and seizes his back. Arroyo sinks the hooks and tries a rear-naked choke. Cramer defends and scrambles out. He's now in Arroyo's guard and lands a few punches. Not much action. Referee Steve Mazzagatti stands them. Cramer takes him down. Crowd boos. Arroyo tries another armbar, but he can’t secure the arm. The round ends. 10-9 Arroyo.

The official scores are: 29-28 Cramer, 29-28 Arroyo and 29-28 for Cramer.

Jake O'Brien vs. Christian Wellisch
Round 1
Christian Wellisch walks to the cage to "Do you Really Want to Hurt Me" by Culture Club. The crowd roars with laughter.

Wellisch lands a right hand immediately. O’Brien stumbles down and turtles. He's okay. He's up and tags Wellisch with a right. Wellisch drops and turtles while O’Brien tees off. Wellisch scrambles toward the fence and pulls guard. O’Brien backs away after a stalemate. Good left hook by Wellisch, but O’Brien is unfazed. Terrible double leg attempt by Wellisch. Wellisch pulls guard. Very little action. Referee Yves Lavigne finally stands them. Both measuring each other. They clinch and Wellisch tries to pull guard again. 10-9 O’Brien.

Round 2
They paw jabs early. They fight at a measured pace. Nothing clean lands a minute in. The crowd is starting to boo. O’Brien tries a takedown, but is stuffed. O’Brien scores a double leg and scoop slams Wellisch. O’Brien is now in Wellisch's guard against fence. Nothing is happening. O’Brien stands and backs away. Little action on the feet. Good double leg takedown by O’Brien with less than a minute left. Wellisch is now bleeding from his nose. Wellisch scrambles up. Decent right cross by Wellisch at the bell. 10-9 O’Brien.

Round 3
They circle and jab immediately though nothing lands cleanly. O’Brien scores a quick single leg takedown. Wellisch scrambles back up. They trade left jabs. Wellisch's nose is bleeding pretty badly again. Another strong double leg takedown by O’Brien. He stands and backs away. They box again. Very little action. Decent left hook by O’Brien. Blood is pouring out if Wellisch's nose. Blood is sprayed all over the matt. O’Brien scores another big takedown. O’Brien stands and Wellisch scrambles up. Wellisch stuffs a late takedown attempt. 10-9 O’Brien.

The official scores are: 29-28 Wellisch, 29-28 O’Brien, 29-28 O’Brien. The crowd boos.

Chris Wilson vs. John Howard
Round 1
The fighters circle. Right leg kick by Howard. Howard scores a quick takedown. They're back up. They swing for the fences but miss. Howard is pressing forward. Right leg kick by Wilson. Pace slows. They clinch and Wilson pins him against fence. They break free and both miss wild hooks. Howard slips from a leg kick but he's up. Wilson latches on a standing guillotine but it’s not deep. Howard slithers out and pulls guard. Hard right hand by Wilson, but Howard smiles and trash talks. After a mad scramble, Howard reverses and scores a takedown. Referee Herb Dean quickly stands them. Huge slam by Howard from the clinch late. Very close round. 10-9 Wilson.

Round 2
A huge right leg kick staggers Wilson seconds into the round. Howard explodes but can't finish him. Wilson falls and Howard jumps onto him, but Wilson able to pull guard. Howard lets him back up. Howard scores another takedown. In Wilson’s guard, Howard lands a few punches. Wilson is able to stand back up. Howard brings him back down. Wilson’s face swollen. Howard lands two more right hands. Pace slows. Howard looks tired late. Howard misses a right and a left haymaker and is slammed down. Wilson hammers in some elbows and gusts from with Howard guard. Both men look very tired. Howard explodes and sweeps Wilson. Good round; very close. 10-9 Howard.

Round 3
A flying knee by Wilson is blocked. Wilson tries a takedown but Howard scrambles and takes his back. Wilson postures for an escape. They scramble but Howard locks on a rear-naked choke. It’s deep. Wilson is defending well. He breaks the choke but can't escape Howard’s body triangle. Wilson scrambles and sweeps him, reversing positions. Howard pulls guard but quickly sweeps his opponent. Wilson thinks about a heel hook, but Howard scrambles back up before he can latch it. Howard scores a takedown very late. Round ends with Howard in Wilson’s guard. Very close round. 10-9 Howard.

The official scores read: 29-28 Howard, 29-28 Wilson and 29-28 for Howard.

Manny Gamburyan vs. Thiago Tavares
Round 1
Both fighters are very intense and ready to go. Manvel lands a straight right hand 45 seconds in. It forces Tavares down. Manvel pulls guard. Manvel tries a kimura but Thiago defends. Manvel has the kimura deep again and Thiago lifts him up with the it sunk. He drops him and the lock is broken. Thiago back in Manvel's guard. Gamburyan scrambles up and from a clinch scores a wizzer. But Thiago still has his back and stands back up. Gamburyan turns around and has his back against the fence. Hard takedown by Tavares. Some decent hammer fists from Thiago. 10-9 Gamburyan.

Round 2
Good takedown by Thiago. They stand after a scramble. Gamburyan scores a takedown and is in Thiago's guard. Not too much action. Some good punches by Gamburyan. Referee Josh Rosenthal finally stands them. Both guys miss wild hay makers. Gamburyan stuffs a takedown. Thiago fighting for a single-leg takedown. 10-9 for Gamburyan.

Round 3
Gamburyan has a takedown stuffed. And another. Thiago is fighting for another single, but Gamburyan defends. They swing for the fences but miss. A big right hand by Thiago rocks Gamburyan. Thiago can't finish him. It’s turned into a kickboxing match. A big knee from Thiago after he stuffed a takedown. Gamburyan is desperate. He's swinging wildly but misses them all. Good jab by Thiago. Thiago is backing away to disengage. Round ends with Gamburyan stalking him. 10-9 Thiago.

All three official judges score it 29-28 for Thiago Tavares.

Fitch/Gono on now

jakkups
01-31-2009, 11:02 PM
Fitch vs Gono. . .

Jon Fitch vs. Akihiro Gono
Round 1
Gono walks down in full drag: wig, sparkly silver dress and glamour shades. He’s with two other dancing "women" and performs a choreographed dance routine at the base of the Octagon. Gono now puts on traditional red shorts. Fitch enters the cage dressed like ... Jon Fitch. Fitch shoots in quickly but Gono thwarts the takedown. Standing back up, Fitch shoots around and gets his back. Gono spins out and is now pinned along the fence. They separate. Gono presses Fitch up against the cage. Gono breaks away from the Thai plum. Two leg kicks by Gono. Fitch presses him against cage and takes him down. Fitch takes his back. Fitch sinks a rear naked but Gono defends. Fitch lets go and lands some decent strikes from on top. Gono scrambles but can't break free. Gono scrambles loose at bell. 10-9 Fitch.

Round 2
A hard right kick to the body by Fitch. Gono clinches and presses Fitch into the fence. Fitch pushes out and tries a single leg, but Gono sprawls perfectly. Fitch trips Gono from the clinch. Gono pulls guard. Fitch slowly works Gono up against the fence. Fitch lands a few pinches to Gono's body and head. Fitch opening up more with elbows and punches. Gono's blocking most of the strikes but he can't get up. Fitch slides to half guard. A series of left elbows from Fitch. Gono scrambles but Fitch takes back and locks in a body triangle. Fitch hammering away with punches from behind. Gono scrambles out but Fitch locks in a tight armbar with ten seconds left. Gono defends and is saved by the bell. 10-9 Fitch.

Round 3
A hard left head kick by Fitch but Gono counters with a good straight right. Fitch takes him down and in Gono's half guard. Fitch lands a hard right elbow. And another. Hard right hand and elbow by Fitch. Another. Gono bucks Fitch and he stands up. He lets Gono up. They clinch against fence. Fitch takesGono's back from the clinch but Gono drops and rolls and misses the leg lock. Fitch drops into side control. Gono sweeps and lands in Fitch's guard. Fitch trying to lock up a triangle. With a minute left, Gono needs a miracle. Gono stands up. Gono misses a wild head kick. Gono is exhausted. 10-9 for Fitch.

The official scorecards read: 30-27, 30-27 and 30-26 for Jon Fitch.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-31-2009, 11:04 PM
Sucks about Gono. I'd really like to see him succeed before retirement.

jakkups
01-31-2009, 11:07 PM
TBH he was just in there with one of the best in the division, and from the looks of the play by play he got beat decisively but put up a valiant effort. But yeah, it sucks.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-31-2009, 11:08 PM
Aww ****tt.. Nate Diaz might get a spankin! Clay Guida is a beast!

YUHHHHHHH!
01-31-2009, 11:22 PM
Wow, if Diaz can't get a submission off on Guida, it's gonna be a long night for him.

jakkups
01-31-2009, 11:24 PM
I love Guida's Rampage slam. It was identical to the one he done on Minowa. Awesome pace so far.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-31-2009, 11:28 PM
That's 2 for Guida!

YUHHHHHHH!
01-31-2009, 11:29 PM
HAhahaha is Guida drunk?!

jakkups
01-31-2009, 11:30 PM
Relentless wrestling is hard to deal with. He's on him like white on rice.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-31-2009, 11:32 PM
Guida's gotta be real careful here.

jakkups
01-31-2009, 11:32 PM
Diaz is opening up, but it could be too late.

jakkups
01-31-2009, 11:33 PM
Guida is breathing heavy, Diaz should mount an all out offensive and go for broke.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-31-2009, 11:35 PM
Great fight.

I got Guida 30-27

jakkups
01-31-2009, 11:35 PM
I had Guida 3 rounds to nil aswell.

Golden Boy 360
01-31-2009, 11:36 PM
guida wins sd

YUHHHHHHH!
01-31-2009, 11:36 PM
Split Decision? Judges must be smoking something.

MindBat
01-31-2009, 11:37 PM
Those cats fight like my little brothers.

jakkups
01-31-2009, 11:37 PM
Damn split decision? I dunno bout that, I'll have to watch it again.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-31-2009, 11:38 PM
Hahahaha Clay Guida is so badass.

jakkups
01-31-2009, 11:38 PM
Guida v Diaz. . .

Nathan Diaz vs. Clay Guida
Round 1
Guida uncorks a right hand that grazes the face of Diaz. Nathan goes to the clinch, where he lands a knee to the body. Diaz, a southpaw, fires right hook leads one after the other. Now fighting in an orthodox stance, Diaz smacks Guida with a left hand. Diaz, showing much-improved standup, lands a stiff jab. Guida shoots a single-leg and Diaz has none of it. Guida attacks the leg of Diaz with a low kick before shooting a double leg. Diaz gives up the takedown and takes the bottom position in half-guard. The crowd chants for Guida as he takes Diaz’s back with both hooks in. Diaz, standing on his feet, drops to his knees and improves his position. Guida puts Diaz in a full nelson that looks painful. Diaz escapes, but is forced to work from side control. Diaz gets to his feet and is lifted high into the air and slammed to the canvas. Guida takes Diaz’s back again. Guida lands a hard knee to the chin and a right hand after Diaz stands.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 Guida
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Guida
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Guida

Round 2
The fighters clinch and a Diaz throw fails. Diaz goes back to the clinch, landing stomps to the foot and looking for a guillotine. Guida drops levels for a single, but he can’t power Diaz to the floor. Guida knees the right thigh of Diaz and moves to his back in a standing position against the fencing. Guida takes the front again and blocks a switch attempt from Diaz. The fighters scramble against the cage and Guida takes half-guard while fighting off a kimura. Guida escapes and lands a hard knee to the shoulder blade. Diaz hits a beautiful hip toss and works an offensive guard for the round’s final moments.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 Guida
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-10
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Guida

Round 3
Wild punches are exchanged in the final rounds opening seconds, but nothing lands clean. Diaz connects with a body shot. And another. With his long hair swinging wild, Guida fires back and misses. Diaz goes back to his jab from a southpaw stance. Diaz clinches and pushes Guida to the cage. Diaz backs up to strike and eats a low kick before landing a right hand. Diaz is starting to peeper Guida with punches. Head and body blows find their target. Guida retreats and works for a single as Diaz seeks the advice of his corner and checks the round timer. Diaz gets another hip toss and again finds Guida on his back with hooks. Diaz stands and works for a kimura on the right arm of Diaz. Guida frees his limb and presses the younger against the fence. Guida moves to Diaz’s back, where he knees the thigh. The fight ends with both fighters scrambling in the center of the Octagon.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 Diaz (29-28 Guida)
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Diaz (29-29 Draw)
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Diaz (29-28 Guida)

The judges score the contest 29-28 for Diaz and 29-28 (twice) for Guida.

WaRCoTTo
01-31-2009, 11:40 PM
Can anyone pm a stream link?

jakkups
01-31-2009, 11:43 PM
I hope Kim puts a whoopin' on this overrated assclown.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-31-2009, 11:43 PM
I could see how you might give Nate that last round, the stand up was favoring him. But I think that the groundwork and control by Guida should have been enough to win the round or at least score it even. Whatever though.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-31-2009, 11:45 PM
Armenian pride is a joke. I hope Kim gives Karo a whoopin'.

Danny Gunz
01-31-2009, 11:51 PM
anyone wanna bet with me 10k i got silva over machida

YUHHHHHHH!
01-31-2009, 11:54 PM
Hahaha where did Karo learn his Judo? All I saw was him falling on his head.

jakkups
01-31-2009, 11:54 PM
Round 1 to Kim. Man he doesn't give Karo and inch.

jakkups
01-31-2009, 11:54 PM
That wrestler switch was a work of art.

Savino
01-31-2009, 11:56 PM
I had Guida 2rounds up and i had points on him. i had kim winnin first round.

own
01-31-2009, 11:56 PM
did kim get wobbled there at the beginning of round two?

he was doing a happy feet looking routine for a second.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:00 AM
Karo just edged that one IMO.

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 12:01 AM
karo gets that round

Savino
02-01-2009, 12:02 AM
yeah i gave karo round 2

Executioner54
02-01-2009, 12:02 AM
Karo get a ****ing mouthpiece that fits...jeezz

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:03 AM
Kim dominating this round EZ. Let's see if Karo can pull something out of his ass, still some time left.

own
02-01-2009, 12:04 AM
michael clarke duncan > kimbo slice

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 12:05 AM
Kim dominating this round EZ. Let's see if Karo can pull something out of his ass, still some time left.

idk this is a pretty ****ty round

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:07 AM
I say Kim had it won. But we'll see. . .

Savino
02-01-2009, 12:07 AM
i will give this to kim.

own
02-01-2009, 12:08 AM
this fight went from great to boring in less than sixty seconds.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:09 AM
Damn Karo got it.

Executioner54
02-01-2009, 12:09 AM
Karo edged it out

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:10 AM
Parisyan vs Kim. . .

Karo Parisyan vs. Dong Hyun Kim
Round 1
Kim muscles Parisyan to the floor. Kim transitions to Parisyan’s back, where he locks in both hooks while his opponent stands. Parisyan falls backward to slam Kim, but he’s ready for it. Kim stays tight on Parisyan’s back and gestures to the crowd as he pounds the head with his left hand. Kim spins for an armbar and Parisyan defends. Now working from guard, Kim locks on a tight triangle choke. The hold is tight, but Parisyan pulls his head free. With 80 seconds remaining in the frame, Parisyan punches the body with his left hand. Parisyan stands and Kim quickly takes him down and moves to his back. Parisyan stands and takes knees to the thigh and body. First round is all Kim.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 Kim
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Kim
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Kim

Round 2
Kim misses wide on a head kick and sprawls on a Parisyan takedown attempt. Parisyan tosses Kim to the floor but can’t shake his opponent off his back. With one hook sunk in on his midsection, Parisyan uses a kimura to escape the bad position. He turns Kim over and extends the arm, nearly forcing a tap or an injury. Kim slides free and is slammed hard to the canvas with a judo toss by Parisyan. Both fighters stand and Parisyan is warned for spitting out his mouthpiece. Referee Josh Rosenthal informs Parisyan that another offense will result in a one-point deduction. Kim lands a crisp left to the right side of his opponent’s head. The round ends with a Parisyan punching flurry.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 Parisyan
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Parisyan
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Parisyan

Round 3
Kim gets a takedown to start round three. Parisyan locks on a triangle and kicks the head of Kim illegally. Rosenthal separates the fighters and warns Parisyan for the tactic, even though it appered that he was just pushing off to get back to his feet. Parisyan attempts a single when action is resumed, but fails on the shot. With two minutes remaining in the final period, the crowd starts to boo the lull in action. Parisyan goes for another judo throw, but he can’t hold Kim down. Parisyan trips Kim’s feet from under him, but Kim quickly gets back to standing. The uneventful round ends to a chorus of boos.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 Kim
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-10
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Parisyan

The judges score the contest 29-28 for Kim and 29-28 (twice) for Parisyan.

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:10 AM
What the ****? Judges are smoking crack fo sho.

Savino
02-01-2009, 12:15 AM
i got my man stephen bonnar on this.

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:16 AM
I think Bonnar via TKO.

Jones is a cool cat, but he's just a wrestler.

Savino
02-01-2009, 12:17 AM
ohhh abit of britains finest the who.

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:17 AM
Badass music IMO

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:18 AM
How can you defeat a man that walks out to the GTA: Vice City soundtrack?

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:18 AM
The Who's Eminence Front is a badass song to come out to, Bonnar has good taste in music that's for sure.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:19 AM
It's up there with Nog coming out to Gimme Shelter.

Savino
02-01-2009, 12:20 AM
How can you defeat a man that walks out to the GTA: Vice City soundtrack?


im going for jon jones just cos he spells his name the same has me.

bonnar still win tho

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:21 AM
What I wouldn't give for a 3-way with Edith, Arianny and Logan, hell add Ali and Rachelle and I'll die a happy man!

Savino
02-01-2009, 12:22 AM
What I wouldn't give for a 3-way with Edith, Arianny and Logan, hell add Ali and Rachelle and I'll die a happy man!

agreend brother. ufc girls the best in the world.

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 12:24 AM
dayyummmmm gott em

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:25 AM
Jones is one explosive mother****er! He reminds me of Anthony Johnson.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:25 AM
Round 1 clearly goes to Jones.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:26 AM
How Bonnar didn't get Kayo'ed off the impact of that face first drop is amazing.

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:27 AM
**** **** **** my points!

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 12:28 AM
the announcer said exactly what i was thinking jon jones reminds me of roy jones jr

Savino
02-01-2009, 12:28 AM
damn this jones is gonna go far. same name has me so he is a star lol.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:32 AM
Jones is looking tired though.

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:33 AM
That boy is tired..

Savino
02-01-2009, 12:33 AM
Jones is looking tired though.

agreed but won both rounds and that take down was special.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:35 AM
Bonnar should just go all American Psycho on him and hope for the stoppage.

Savino
02-01-2009, 12:36 AM
Bonnar should just go all American Psycho on him and hope for the stoppage.

easier said than done plus he lost all 3 rounds imo.

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 12:37 AM
whats with the 3rd round of these fights they are so boring

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:38 AM
No doubt Jones had it IMO.

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:38 AM
What a ****ing ***** Jon Jones is.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:39 AM
whats with the 3rd round of these fights they are so boring

I was saying to Bricks earlier that none of the guys other than Penn and GSP at the weigh-ins looked in peak condition and looked like they might have had trouble making the weight first time.

Executioner54
02-01-2009, 12:40 AM
Jones takes it

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:40 AM
Bonnar vs Jones. . .

Stephan Bonnar vs. Jon Jones
Round 1
Jones gets a single-leg trip, but Bonnar quickly gets to his feet. Jones responds by throwing Bonnar to the floor hard. Bonnar stands and is thrown down like a ragdoll from the Thai plum. Just like before, Bonnar scrambles to his feet and looks to gain striking range. Bonnar comes forward and clinches with Jones against the fence. Jones suplexes Bonnar and floors him with a spinning-back elbow. The blow is solid but Bonnar is game. Jones lands a hard knee to the chin and gets a takedown before the horn sounds.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 Jones
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Jones
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Jones

Round 2
Bonnar comes out swinging for the fences. Jones slips the punches and lands a side kick to the ribs. Jones gets a leg trip and wrestles Bonnar to the floor. Bonnar stands and is hit with a hard knee. A body kick connects for Bonnar, but he is dragged back down to the canvas. A Jones knee finds the chin of Bonnar as he worked to his feet. A left hand lands for Jones. Bonnar answers with some dirty boxing on the inside. Bonnar lands his best strike of the fight, a hard knee to the body from the clinch. Jones throws Bonnar violently to the floor.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 Jones
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Jones
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Jones

Round 3
Bonnar, perhaps knowing is down on the scorecards, presses the action against the fatigued Jones. Uppercuts land from the inside as Bonnar looks for a knockout. Another uppercut lands for Bonnar. Jones is so tired that he can hardly stand. Bonnar gets sloppy and is tripped to the floor. Bonnar, from guard, nearly secures a triangle choke. Jones frees his head and knees the body of Bonnar. The fighters stand Bonnar goes back to dirty boxing on the inside. The decision fest continues.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 Jones
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Jones
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Bonnar

The judges score the contest 29-28 (twice) and 30-37 for Jon Jones, who takes the unanimous decision.

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:41 AM
Jones runs. Afraid to get hit, another Tito Ortiz IMO.

****ing *****.

Executioner54
02-01-2009, 12:41 AM
Thiago Silva better not let me down. Whoop his ass Thiago!

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:42 AM
Machida via Unibrow KO R1

Savino
02-01-2009, 12:43 AM
Jones runs. Afraid to get hit, another Tito Ortiz IMO.

****ing *****.

just said to my homie he reminds me of tito.

hopefully my man lachida wins me a 1k points on this. but now i think machida win will on points.

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:45 AM
My boy looks DANGEROUS good LORD

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:46 AM
Machida coming out to Korn doesn't look right.

own
02-01-2009, 12:46 AM
does he always rock a gi for his ring entrance?

Savino
02-01-2009, 12:48 AM
Machida coming out to Korn doesn't look right.

that is my ringtone haha. must be a sign that i picked machida.

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 12:49 AM
damn machida looks out of shape

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:49 AM
****.. Machida looks like a Samurai. Gonna lose all of my points.. **** ****!

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:54 AM
Machida is playing it safe as usual.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:55 AM
But kicking ass at the same time.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:56 AM
Pay up Bricks lol.

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 12:56 AM
dayyummmm

he got completely outclassed

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 12:56 AM
Man.. Kind of a late punch huh?

Executioner54
02-01-2009, 12:56 AM
Damn good work by Machida

Savino
02-01-2009, 12:57 AM
damn my man was awesome. i been liking him along with evans for ages.

warp1432
02-01-2009, 12:58 AM
So I'm really bored and watching this, but this was actually the first fight that I was kind of entertained by. How good is this dude that just won? Is he ready for Evans?

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:58 AM
Man.. Kind of a late punch huh?

He was out on the first one and threw the second at the same time as the buzzer.

Mayweather/Gatti type fight IMO.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:59 AM
Machida vs Silva. . .

Lyoto Machida vs. Thiago Silva
Round 1
Machida lands a left hand lead and shows excellent footwork as he circles around the Octagon. A stiff body kick connects for Machida. A right knee from Machida smacks the groin protector of Silva. Referee Yves Lavigne gives Silva a brief reprieve and the action is restarted. Machida gets a trip and fights off a leg lock before standing. Silva follows and lands a knee to the body and a left hand that floors Silva. Machida stands over the fallen fighter and throws kicks to the left leg. Machida enters the guard of his opponent, and then stands. Machida rocks Silva with a punching combination, scoring another knockdown. Machida engages on the ground and takes the mount before standing. Silva is warned for holding the fence to defend a Machida trip. Machida stuffs a takedown and trips Silva to the floor. As the horn sounds, Machida lunges into Silva’s guard with a right hand that knocks him out on the floor at 4:59 of round one. Impressive display from Lyoto Machida.

Executioner54
02-01-2009, 01:00 AM
Props to Machida he fought a more entertaining fight

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 01:00 AM
Lyoto will get a title shot after that. All he needed was an impressive stoppage.

Savino
02-01-2009, 01:04 AM
Lyoto will get a title shot after that. All he needed was an impressive stoppage.

that was impressive.


im so hyped now! awesome

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 01:05 AM
I know penn is great and i love him but i have a really hard time seeing him winning.... i also have a hard time seeing gsp ever losing

jakkups
02-01-2009, 01:05 AM
Man, that fights got me pumped even more than I was for this main event. I got 50k riding on BJ so I hope he gets it, but in all honesty I hope the fight lives up to the hype.

HotSizzle
02-01-2009, 01:06 AM
Anybody wanna make a last bet? i got gsp

sunthunder
02-01-2009, 01:07 AM
I'm picking GSP. Think he has polished his skills more than BJ has since their first fight, and still doubt BJ can handle his pace. I'm a bit biased, can't stand BJ's attitude, and I hope GSP dominates, but I think he'll get a late stoppage or win a close decision.

War GSP!

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 01:08 AM
Anybody wanna make a last bet? i got gsp

nahhhh.....

Savino
02-01-2009, 01:08 AM
jesus i dont think i have been hyped like this in ages. this is bigger than goin to watchin at twice. love it! wow f'in wow!

jakkups
02-01-2009, 01:13 AM
Man the crowd is wild. I haven't seen it that mad at a UFC main event since Liddell/Ortiz 2.

Savino
02-01-2009, 01:14 AM
this is amazing! im bouncin in excitement and cant stop laughin.

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 01:14 AM
penn's got 4 losses damn

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:15 AM
Why does Bruce buffer always sound like he's eating marshmallows ?

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 01:17 AM
i wanna see gsp pick up penn and throw him over the fence just cause it would be really funny

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 01:20 AM
round 1 goes to gsp for doing more

jakkups
02-01-2009, 01:20 AM
GSP gets round 1 IMO.

sunthunder
02-01-2009, 01:21 AM
First round to GSP. He landed the better strikes.

KESSLER
02-01-2009, 01:21 AM
GSP gets the first.

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:22 AM
GPS looks alot stronger.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 01:23 AM
Alot stronger. BJ looks like he's pretty stunned by the strength.

sunthunder
02-01-2009, 01:23 AM
GSP takes BJ down and passes his guard!

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 01:24 AM
That was a helluva punch gsp landed on penn while he was on the ground

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:25 AM
GPS better be careful he doesn't pop BJ's ear.

evilp0ptart
02-01-2009, 01:27 AM
Round 2 to GSP as well...

KESSLER
02-01-2009, 01:27 AM
Another GSP round.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 01:27 AM
GSP takes round 2.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 01:28 AM
Man GSP looks like a middleweight tonight.

Savino
02-01-2009, 01:28 AM
this is amzing i want 5 rounds.

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:28 AM
Its gonna be conditioning.

sunthunder
02-01-2009, 01:29 AM
Man GSP looks like a middleweight tonight.

He does actually weigh 185lbs at fight time.

evilp0ptart
02-01-2009, 01:29 AM
Penn's stamina maybe not as good as we thought???

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:30 AM
Doesn't look good for BJ.

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 01:30 AM
yo anyone got links to a stream the on i was just watching went down

Savino
02-01-2009, 01:32 AM
GSp is to bring, strong and better he is out jabbin the so called best jabber in mma.

sunthunder
02-01-2009, 01:32 AM
GSP is dominating BJ in every aspect of the game.

MissDeeCole
02-01-2009, 01:32 AM
Hagler-Hearns LMAO

I watched round 3 on a stream and gave up

Dice
02-01-2009, 01:33 AM
This is reallllll interesting, GSP looks great

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:33 AM
BJ needs to grab something for a submission or hope GSP gasses out.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 01:33 AM
Its gonna be conditioning.

Looks to be more about size and strength right now.

Dice
02-01-2009, 01:33 AM
This is by no means the greatest MMA fight so far

evilp0ptart
02-01-2009, 01:35 AM
This is by no means the greatest MMA fight so far

If you watched the first fight you would know that this would be nothing like Hagler-Hearns. ****ing Dana White hype....

nathanmania
02-01-2009, 01:35 AM
GSP is dominating the fight... Come on BJ.... lets go....

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:36 AM
Ref might stop it.

MissDeeCole
02-01-2009, 01:36 AM
Is this a still photo or a live fight?

jakkups
02-01-2009, 01:36 AM
Total domination by GSP. Really amazing performance so far.

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:37 AM
BJ needs a miracle.

evilp0ptart
02-01-2009, 01:39 AM
Almost got stopped.... somebody gonna owe me 10k =)

sunthunder
02-01-2009, 01:39 AM
WAR GSP!

Karma!

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:39 AM
BJ's corner might stop it.

Savino
02-01-2009, 01:40 AM
i cant believe people actually thought Bj would beat GSp ffs. i knew this would happen.

evilp0ptart
02-01-2009, 01:40 AM
Is this a still photo or a live fight?

did u watch the end? ground n pound is not the most exciting thing but that wasnt so bad.,



GSP WINS!!!

jakkups
02-01-2009, 01:40 AM
Wow, it's over. Great show by GSP.

Gareth Ivanovic
02-01-2009, 01:40 AM
Man straight domination by GSP.

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:41 AM
GSP dominates!!!!

Dice
02-01-2009, 01:41 AM
My stream went out wat happened in round five?

Boxingfan81
02-01-2009, 01:42 AM
So glad I didn't waste my money on this junk. I bought affliction last week and the whole time I was thinking, "why can't UFC put on a show like this."

Dirt E Gomez
02-01-2009, 01:42 AM
Did anybody actually enjoy that fight? I mean, seriously. That was one of the least aesthetically pleasing main events I've ever seen... if not the least. Everybody knew how this fight would go.

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:42 AM
People. Get Sopcast for these events.

MissDeeCole
02-01-2009, 01:43 AM
did u watch the end? ground n pound is not the most exciting thing but that wasnt so bad.,



GSP WINS!!!

no my stream thing cut out, how did he quit? he just pull a de la hoya?

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:43 AM
So glad I didn't waste my money on this junk. I bought affliction last week and the whole time I was thinking, "why can't UFC put on a show like this."

Agreed. Affliction was much better.

nathanmania
02-01-2009, 01:43 AM
Great performance from GSp, he completely dominated the fight... BJ will be back...




Again congrats to GSP

Golden Boy 360
02-01-2009, 01:43 AM
Did anybody actually enjoy that fight? I mean, seriously. That was one of the least aesthetically pleasing main events I've ever seen... if not the least. Everybody knew how this fight would go.

the greatest fight in ufc history my ass...same goes for lesnar-couture

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:44 AM
no my stream thing cut out, how did he quit?

Corner threw in the towel.

nathanmania
02-01-2009, 01:44 AM
no my stream thing cut out, how did he quit? he just pull a de la hoya?

Herb Dean stop the fight before the 5th round started.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 01:44 AM
GSP vs Penn. . .

Georges St. Pierre vs. B.J. Penn
Round 1
Lightweight champion B.J. Penn enters the cage first to traditional Hawaiian music. Welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre follows to a loud applause. The fighters clinch and trade knees to the body and thigh. St. Pierre drops levels for a single but Penn defends while hopping on one leg. St. Pierre continues to work on the takedown while Penn defends with his back to the cage. St. Pierre lets go of the leg and both fighters are back in the center of the cage. St. Pierre pushes Penn against the fence and then moves back to the center. St. Pierre lands a one-two to the chin and then knees the midsection from the clinch. With 30 seconds left in the round, Penn connects to the body with a knee.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 St. Pierre
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 St. Pierre
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 St. Pierre

Round 2
Penn gets off first in round two with a left hook. And another. St. Pierre goes to the clinch and the crowd boos. St. Pierre trips Penn to the canvas. Penn is using a rubber guard, but St. Pierre gives nothing. St. Pierre passes to half-guard and side-control quickly. St. Pierre isolates the left arm of Penn and punches the head. St. Pierre is dominating Penn on the floor. Penn gets back to guard, where he eats ground-and-pound from both of St. Pierre’s hands. St. Pierre blasts Penn with a left hand and advances back to side control. Penn uses a jail break to get back to guard. Sitting in an open guard, St. Pierre tees off on Penn, who is bleeding below his left eye.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 St. Pierre
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 St. Pierre
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 St. Pierre

Round 3
Penn’s face is showing damage in round three. St. Pierre peppers the nose of Penn with jabs and a right hand. Penn’s nose is bleeding from the beating. St. Pierre gets an easy takedown and moves to half guard. He lazily punches the head with both hands until Penn is able to get back to full guard. St. Pierre blasts Penn with right-handed hammerfists. Penn scrambles to his feet and works for a single leg of his own. St. Pierre stuffs the attempt and pulls Penn’s legs out from under him with a double. A left elbow and punch connect with the head of Penn from guard. St. Pierre is making it look easy against the lightweight champion.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 St. Pierre
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 St. Pierre
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 St. Pierre

Round 4
Penn checks a low kick and takes a stiff jab. St. Pierre ducks under a slow jab and gets an easy double leg. St. Pierre passes Penn’s guard like the Hawaiian is a white belt. St. Pierre is putting on a display of dominance never seen from the Canadian fighter. St. Pierre knees the body from side control and punches the head of Penn with his left hand. St. Pierre lands a heavy elbow while trying to mount. St. Pierre continues to control Penn as he takes the mount for a brief second. Penn gets to guard but it only lasts seconds. St. Pierre advances to side control and goes back to work on the head of his opponent. St. Pierre tees off with elbows and punches while Penn covers. Referee Herb Dean watches closely, but he lets Penn ride out the round.

TJ De Santis scores the round 10-8 St. Pierre
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-8 St. Pierre
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-8 St. Pierre

The fight is over. The outmatched lightweight champion’s brother stopped the fight after a doctor checked him following the round. St. Pierre dances in the center of the Octagon while a disappointed Penn looks on.

MissDeeCole
02-01-2009, 01:45 AM
Im lost, did it go to the cards or not people?

letsgobrady
02-01-2009, 01:46 AM
b.j got dominated but in a boring ufc style of domination all the wrestling made it boring but hey you do what you got to do to win

KESSLER
02-01-2009, 01:46 AM
Im lost, did it go to the cards or not people?

No, it didn't.

Executioner54
02-01-2009, 01:47 AM
GSP tapped that ass.

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:48 AM
GSP screwed up the back flip. Lol!

MindBat
02-01-2009, 01:48 AM
GSP tapped that ass.

He tapped that head and those ears.

warp1432
02-01-2009, 01:49 AM
Question, why didn't GSP throw a right after he kept landing jabs. Wouldn't it have shocked Penn and made it a lot easier to take him down? GSP's jab seemed decent, but he never followed it up with anything besides a kick.

Gareth Ivanovic
02-01-2009, 01:49 AM
GSP screwed up the back flip. Lol!
Thats about the only thing he did wrong. LOL

Danny Gunz
02-01-2009, 01:49 AM
Im lost, did it go to the cards or not people?

bj penn's brother stopped it after the 4th

SuckaPunch
02-01-2009, 01:50 AM
Corner threw in the towel.

Bull. BJ Penn quit. (He signaled his bro to stop the fight)

So much talk of Penn calling GSP a quitter :lol1:

Kakutogi-Gumi
02-01-2009, 01:50 AM
Im lost, did it go to the cards or not people?

No. Because BJ was getting so much ground and pound the last three rounds, the doctor warned against having one more round. BJ's bro, JD called the fight and threw in the towel.

StillUnknown
02-01-2009, 01:51 AM
bj penn needs to stay at 155

card was disappointing overall though

Savino
02-01-2009, 01:51 AM
loved it! i knew GSp would do that to him. enjoyed last 2 fights.

NeXt In Line
02-01-2009, 01:52 AM
GSP did work on that boy son! Guy's classy as hell too man, he gives respect to everyone.

Shiranui
02-01-2009, 01:52 AM
Moving up in weight against physically the strongest ever at 170 certainly didn't do Penn any favors. He had nothing the whole night, all defense.

Executioner54
02-01-2009, 01:56 AM
BJ was raped. Man handled.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 01:57 AM
I'm calling it, Lyoto Machida - Next LHW Champion.

YUHHHHHHH!
02-01-2009, 01:58 AM
I'm calling it, Lyoto Machida - Next LHW Champion.

I agree 100%. He is ready for his shot after an entertaining KO victory. That's all the casual fan needed.

KESSLER
02-01-2009, 01:59 AM
This thread is the #1 in the MMA section history.

MindBat
02-01-2009, 02:01 AM
The undercard sucked major, fermented elephant farts.

sebspeed
02-01-2009, 02:03 AM
To all the hater,non-believer.. what a performance by GSP,he received almost nothing from Bj Penn and managed to outclass one of the best P4P fighter.The only thing I can say,is GSP can be considered one oft the top 3 P4P if not the best.

Kakutogi-Gumi
02-01-2009, 02:10 AM
Question, why didn't GSP throw a right after he kept landing jabs. Wouldn't it have shocked Penn and made it a lot easier to take him down? GSP's jab seemed decent, but he never followed it up with anything besides a kick.

BJ was expecting a boxing game, so GSP used the jab and kick to create distance for takedowns. After getting BJ down, he neutralized him and pounded it out.

Rocky.
02-01-2009, 02:11 AM
GSP owned him bad :boxing:

SalSanchez
02-01-2009, 02:13 AM
I'm calling it, Lyoto Machida - Next LHW Champion.

Too bad he wont getting a shot at Evans or the next LHW champion I pretty much guarantee that Dana wont let Machida get a Championship match

Dirt E Gomez
02-01-2009, 02:13 AM
To all the hater,non-believer.. what a performance by GSP,he received almost nothing from Bj Penn and managed to outclass one of the best P4P fighter.The only thing I can say,is GSP can be considered one oft the top 3 P4P if not the best.

GSP is too strong and Penn obviously not at his best weight. This fight was over before it was signed. You can't expect a fighter, even Penn, to be able to deal with a strategy that GSP put into play.

ps: French Canadians still suck.

StillUnknown
02-01-2009, 02:15 AM
To all the hater,non-believer.. what a performance by GSP,he received almost nothing from Bj Penn and managed to outclass one of the best P4P fighter.The only thing I can say,is GSP can be considered one oft the top 3 P4P if not the best.

i got him #2 behind Fedor

Equilibrium
02-01-2009, 07:32 AM
ps: French Canadians still suck.

*Shakes fist at you*

MetalVomit
02-01-2009, 11:27 AM
Damn, I kicked ass on the ufc fantasy game. I think my score was 168 or something.

jakkups
02-01-2009, 12:07 PM
Full event up so far

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4685440&postcount=169

Moon
02-01-2009, 04:05 PM
Great performance from GSp, he completely dominated the fight... BJ will be back...

At 155, for sure.

StillUnknown
02-01-2009, 04:09 PM
apparently one of GSP's cornermen put vaseline on his back and shoulders between rounds 1 & 2 and got caught by the commission.

dana basically said the guy who did it should lose his license

jakkups
02-01-2009, 04:36 PM
Here's an article on that whole vaseline thing. . .

ST. PIERRE CORNERMAN STIRS UFC 94 CONTROVERSY (http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=8101&zoneid=13)

LAS VEGAS - Although it flew under the radar for most of the fans in attendance and those watching on television, there was an incident during the UFC 94 main event mega-fight between Georges St. Pierre and B.J. Penn that could land one of St. Pierre's cornermen in hot water.

It seems that at some point between the first and second rounds, a St. Pierre cornerman allegedly applied Vaseline to St. Pierre's back, an infraction of the rules.

"I saw the commission jump up there and flip out. They said that one of the guys was rubbing Vaseline on GSP's back... in between one of the rounds, one and two, I think," said UFC president Dana White following the UFC 94 post-fight press conference. "I personally didn't see it, the commission did. And that's about as illegal as you can get... I'm sure the commission is going to deal (with it)."

St. Pierre was clearly wiped down with towels in between rounds two and three, and again between rounds three and four, by a commission official.

White believes - while the allegations are serious and that there should be serious repercussions - the outcome of the fight wasn't tainted by the incident.

"You could have put Vaseline on from head to toe, that wasn't the point, the point was you don't do it. It's illegal. The guy who did it needs to be punished, it's not (St. Pierre's) fault," said the UFC president. "The question is what happens to a guy that does that. You've got to put the smack down on him. He should lose his license.

"I don't think that impacted the fight, I don't."

A representative of Penn's camp informed MMAWeekly.com that they had not yet determined whether to file a formal complaint with the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

There was no comment available from St. Pierre's camp or from the Nevada State Athletic Commission at the time of publication.

StillUnknown
02-01-2009, 04:44 PM
that was pretty stupid on their part, why do anything that would cast a shadow on a brilliant performance.

i don't think it made a difference, but it was still an incredibly dumb thing to do.

Left Hook Tua
02-01-2009, 05:01 PM
if they fought with a gi on......bj would have won...... :)

Newyorkknicks07
02-01-2009, 05:55 PM
anyone have a link to the actual fight

jakkups
02-01-2009, 06:08 PM
anyone have a link to the actual fight

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4686245&postcount=170

vinnie7731
02-01-2009, 10:04 PM
all i can say is that bj penn was a major dissapointment. gsp owned him. bj looked much worse in this fight then he did there first fight. and after talkin all that ****. how embarrased he must feel

jakkups
02-02-2009, 10:15 AM
ST. PIERRE TRAINER RESPONDS TO ALLEGATIONS (http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=8107&zoneid=2)

The fighters of Greg Jackson’s team are no strangers to ritual inside the Octagon. First there’s the “Jackson nipple tweak,” a bizarre, if amusing, twist of the nipples his fighters often do before fighting, believed to prepare them for intense battle inside the Octagon. Now, there appears to be a new ritual in Jackson’s camp, and it’s the source of controversy following Georges St. Pierre’s rout of B.J. Penn at Saturday’s UFC 94.

St. Pierre’s cornermen, including Jackson, were at the center of a storm at UFC 94 after officials from the Nevada State Athletic Commission approached them during the fight to investigate allegations that they were applying Vasoline to St. Pierre in between rounds.

Jackson spoke to MMAWeekly.com on Sunday afternoon and said the misunderstanding arose after Phil Nurse, one of St. Pierre’s cornermen, executed a ritual taught by a member of St. Pierre’s team, a “witch doctor” named Steven Friend.

“So in between rounds, (Friend) had this little drill that you do – and Phil Nurse is the one who knows how to do it – he showed Phil, and this is what Georges wanted, so we did that,” Jackson said. “But this is why we were doing it. He rubbed your back and tapped your chest; I don’t know exactly how it works. But anyways, what that’s supposed to do is get your energy in line, or motivated or whatever. So in between rounds, we had Phil Nurse do that.”

Jackson said St. Pierre has worked with Friend for years, since the French Canadian began training at Jackson’s academy in Albuquerque, N.M. Jackson says Friend has also worked with Matt Hughes and Randy Couture in preparation for their fights. Friend was featured in the sixth season of “The Ultimate Fighter” as a guest of Hughes.

“The controversy came because Phil Nurse also was putting Vasoline on Georges’ eyebrows,” Jackson elaborated. “In between rounds, you always want to put on Vasoline on (a fighter’s face). So Phil Nurse put all the Vasoline on his face, so his hands might have had a miniscule amount left over from that, when he went around the side and rubbed a little point on his back, and tapped on his chest.

“At that point, somebody in the audience thought we were greasing George down, and ran over and told the commission that we were greasing his body down. The commission came in and said ‘you can’t grease him down,’ which didn’t work. They said ‘you’re putting Vasoline on his back,’ and Phil’s like, ‘oh, there might be a little on my fingers, but it wasn’t intentional at all, and of course they wiped it right off and it was gone, so it wasn’t a factor in the fight at all.”

Indeed, much of the fight played out with St. Pierre on top of Penn, doling out a vicious ground and pound attack. Jackson said after a little explaining, the commission realized what was going on.

“We told our side of the story, we said didn’t mean to put any grease anywhere,” he said. “If we were trying to grease the back we’d be greasing up and down, we would make it count. We wouldn’t do a little tiny spot in the back. The whole thing doesn’t make any sense, so they were fine with it once we gave our explanation. It wasn’t like we were taking gobs of Vasoline and slathering on his back. They didn’t understand the drill that the witch doctor was having us do, and so it looked that way. It didn’t effect the fight at all.”

At this point, no formal complaint has been filed with the NSAC. The popular trainer chalks the whole incident up to fan paranoia.

“The whole greasing thing is pretty ridiculous,” he said. “You can’t grease somebody up. You just couldn’t do it. They check your body before you get into the cage, there’s an inspector right there. In order for us to grease him up, it would be insane. There are cameras everywhere. We don’t cheat. We don’t need to cheat to win.”

Jackson said he wasn’t aware if St. Pierre’s ritual was related to the infamous “nipple tweak,” as the whole business was “out of his domain.” As long as it made his fighter feel better, he was all for it.

“If it works, we’re going to use it,” he said.

jakkups
02-02-2009, 10:17 AM
added blog from the day of the fight.