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Machine Gunz 01-23-2009, 12:24 AM The Man brought Boxing back from the dead here in Aus, he made the adverage casual sports fan take interest in Boxing, without Mundine there wouldnt be much interest in Aus Boxing besides from the hardcore Boxing followers. What other Boxer in Aus is capable of putting on PPV fight nights and generate mainstream interest?
Why do people hate on his cards? he puts atleast 10 other Aussie fighters on his televised undercards giving other Aussie fighters exposure.
I know he hasnt fought the best in the world of late, but what is Mundine to do if they wont let him fight in the States or how can he bring big name fighters out to Aus if they price themselves out?
boxing_great 01-23-2009, 01:40 AM is this ULT?
Infern0 01-23-2009, 02:09 AM Mundine is given far too much respect by the Aussie fans IMO, they think he is ATG material, it wasn't so long ago they were all chirping on about how he could beat Calzaghe lmao and how N'dou could beat Hatton.
The Man brought Boxing back from the dead here in Aus, he made the adverage casual sports fan take interest in Boxing, without Mundine there wouldnt be much interest in Aus Boxing besides from the hardcore Boxing followers. What other Boxer in Aus is capable of putting on PPV fight nights and generate mainstream interest?
Why do people hate on his cards? he puts atleast 10 other Aussie fighters on his televised undercards giving other Aussie fighters exposure.
I know he hasnt fought the best in the world of late, but what is Mundine to do if they wont let him fight in the States or how can he bring big name fighters out to Aus if they price themselves out?
i think your absolutely right, boxing in australia would be in a much worse state if not for mundines involvement
KostyaTszyu44 01-23-2009, 04:30 AM lmao boxing in australia would be in good health if mundine werent around, and we payed more attention to good fighters like katsidis, darchinyan (although hes getting more exposure now) and prospects like zappa, kickett etc
woftam 01-23-2009, 06:14 AM lmao boxing in australia would be in good health if mundine werent around, and we payed more attention to good fighters like katsidis, darchinyan (although hes getting more exposure now) and prospects like zappa, kickett etc
Thank you mate. I knew it wouldn't be long until somebody told it how it is.
These are the fighters Mundine and his management have served up to us since Kessler. Everyone of them have been pay per views. The Green fight was the only fight that represented any risk whatsoever to Mundine.
Rashid Matumla
Rico Chong Nee
Danny Green
Ruben Eduardo Acosta
Sam Soliman
Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas
Jose Alberto Clavero
Nader Hamdan
Sam Soliman
Crazy Kim
Rafael Sosa Pintos
Next months fight is Shannan Taylor
Main event is charging us
$39.95 for Mosely V Margarito
yet charging $49.95 for Mundine & Taylor
Now you guys tell me who is getting the raw end of the stick here. Mundine or Australian boxing fans. Wake up and smell the roses boys. Mundine PPV's are a joke as far as a contest goes and you get ripped off to boot.
There are a number of current and up & coming boxers who are willing to take on all comers in this country. I see no need to continually focus on one who wants our money but will not give us any value whatsoever for it.
boxing_great 01-24-2009, 02:51 AM the Mundine undercard is going to be a cracker!:hail:
brently1979 01-25-2009, 06:01 PM Fox sports were showing local fights on Regular FOX Sports long before Mudinee decided to start fighting and those cards were of better quality then what you seen on Fox Sports and Mundines undercards.
Mundine has turned the Australian fight game into a joke imo.
phallus 01-25-2009, 07:24 PM lmao boxing in australia would be in good health if mundine werent around, and we payed more attention to good fighters like katsidis, darchinyan (although hes getting more exposure now) and prospects like zappa, kickett etc
Thank you mate. I knew it wouldn't be long until somebody told it how it is.
These are the fighters Mundine and his management have served up to us since Kessler. Everyone of them have been pay per views. The Green fight was the only fight that represented any risk whatsoever to Mundine.
Rashid Matumla
Rico Chong Nee
Danny Green
Ruben Eduardo Acosta
Sam Soliman
Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas
Jose Alberto Clavero
Nader Hamdan
Sam Soliman
Crazy Kim
Rafael Sosa Pintos
Next months fight is Shannan Taylor
Main event is charging us
$39.95 for Mosely V Margarito
yet charging $49.95 for Mundine & Taylor
Now you guys tell me who is getting the raw end of the stick here. Mundine or Australian boxing fans. Wake up and smell the roses boys. Mundine PPV's are a joke as far as a contest goes and you get ripped off to boot.
There are a number of current and up & coming boxers who are willing to take on all comers in this country. I see no need to continually focus on one who wants our money but will not give us any value whatsoever for it.
these guys have it right... anyone looking for mundine haters sign me up.
brently1979 01-25-2009, 10:40 PM these guys have it right... anyone looking for mundine haters sign me up.
Yeah I'm signing up as well.
Kesslerfan#1 01-26-2009, 07:33 PM Thank you mate. I knew it wouldn't be long until somebody told it how it is.
These are the fighters Mundine and his management have served up to us since Kessler. Everyone of them have been pay per views. The Green fight was the only fight that represented any risk whatsoever to Mundine.
Rashid Matumla
Rico Chong Nee
Danny Green
Ruben Eduardo Acosta
Sam Soliman
Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas
Jose Alberto Clavero
Nader Hamdan
Sam Soliman
Crazy Kim
Rafael Sosa Pintos
Next months fight is Shannan Taylor
Main event is charging us
$39.95 for Mosely V Margarito
yet charging $49.95 for Mundine & Taylor
Now you guys tell me who is getting the raw end of the stick here. Mundine or Australian boxing fans. Wake up and smell the roses boys. Mundine PPV's are a joke as far as a contest goes and you get ripped off to boot.
There are a number of current and up & coming boxers who are willing to take on all comers in this country. I see no need to continually focus on one who wants our money but will not give us any value whatsoever for it.
Great post!
Hopefully he is just garnishing his record for another potential loss to another tough fighter...which hopefully is coming next!!
KostyaTszyu44 01-26-2009, 08:18 PM ive said it once and i'll say it again
if you pay money for mundine-taylor, or even bother going to the club or a mates house to watch it
you are ****ing retarded, this fight and the undercard will be utter trash, UTTER TRASH
KostyaTszyu44 01-26-2009, 08:21 PM the Mundine undercard is going to be a cracker!:hail:
oh yeah!! i cant wait to see some poor guy whos 0-5 and shouldnt even be fighting get whooped on by some bull**** local prospect who sint even that good himself
or even better, two guys with losing records fighting each other....
thats what mundiens cards are, bums fighting each other or a prospect beating up a bum, no competitive fights, no tests for the young promising fighters
brently1979 01-27-2009, 10:34 PM oh yeah!! i cant wait to see some poor guy whos 0-5 and shouldnt even be fighting get whooped on by some bull**** local prospect who sint even that good himself
or even better, two guys with losing records fighting each other....
thats what mundiens cards are, bums fighting each other or a prospect beating up a bum, no competitive fights, no tests for the young promising fighters
I agree, that made me laugh, but the sad thing is that it's true.
brently1979 01-27-2009, 10:37 PM ive said it once and i'll say it again
if you pay money for mundine-taylor, or even bother going to the club or a mates house to watch it
you are ****ing retarded, this fight and the undercard will be utter trash, UTTER TRASH
There must to a few retards out there buying this ****. I would like to know who actually buys these fights. They would have to be the stupidest ****ers going around.
brently1979 01-27-2009, 10:38 PM the Mundine undercard is going to be a cracker!:hail:
I hope this is your idea of a bad or even sick joke.
mannypac22 02-08-2009, 05:34 AM Mundine is a joke no heart no chin he goes down to these bums he fights and runs away when he knows he cant win eg: Kessler boxing in aus would be better coz we have better fighters like vic and katsidis Mundine is a nobody and lets hope Shannon beats him
Winky would murder that fake cant rap cant box wannabe roy jones and ali faker
mannypac22 02-08-2009, 05:36 AM Main event is charging us
$39.95 for Mosely V Margarito
yet charging $49.95 for Mundine & Taylor
u dont know how much that make me want to spew
brently1979 02-08-2009, 06:05 PM Main event is charging us
$39.95 for Mosely V Margarito
yet charging $49.95 for Mundine & Taylor
u dont know how much that make me want to spew
Yeah, it's a joke, but the reason it's more is because of Mundine being greedy and Fox Sports and have to set up the whole production from scratch. But in saying that, they can do it with Regular Fox Sports cards.
It's Mundines management who make these PPV.
Machine Gunz 02-08-2009, 07:06 PM There must to a few retards out there buying this ****. I would like to know who actually buys these fights. They would have to be the stupidest ****ers going around.
people like you cant help but buy his fights, you want to see him get KO'd so you buy his fights, admit it.
Mundine will never be KO'd again, the vid of him being dropped by crazy kim in your sig' was Mundine fighting recklessely and being clipped by a hook, all of the greatest fighters have been dropped! Fck, even Roy Jones has been KTFO.
I know Mundine hasnt fought the best in recent times, but he has the skill/talent to beat any MW/SMW. Who knows what goes on with negotiating the fights, im pretty sure he has tried making fighters top 10 fighters but no one will fight him, maybe because he is not recognised enough in the US and Europe.
The only other fighter in Aus with the talent of Mundine is Willie Kickett!
boxing_great 02-08-2009, 10:17 PM I hope this is your idea of a bad or even sick joke.
its called being sarcastic
boxing_great 02-08-2009, 11:56 PM its called being sarcastic
mgkirkpatrick 02-09-2009, 09:26 AM .... nope.. tried to find the effort to type out a reply to this ****.. but its just not worth it.
Greatwhitehope 02-09-2009, 11:09 PM You can't call the casual Aussie sports fan who watches Mundine fights a boxing fan, they watch in the hope that he gets knocked out but then talk about how he has 'the quickest hands in boxing' and talk about how dominant he's been, so essentially Mundine has created a league of extraordinarily annoying people who think they know world boxing because they've seen Mundine beat up on some South Armerican Bums.
woftam 02-10-2009, 12:45 AM You can't call the casual Aussie sports fan who watches Mundine fights a boxing fan, they watch in the hope that he gets knocked out but then talk about how he has 'the quickest hands in boxing' and talk about how dominant he's been, so essentially Mundine has created a league of extraordinarily annoying people who think they know world boxing because they've seen Mundine beat up on some South Armerican Bums.
Well put. Pretty much sums it up.
TheFlash 02-10-2009, 02:06 AM Hopkins backs Mundine to be a world champion.
What do you say to this fellas? Hopkins words over yours!
http://www.foxsports.com.au/othersports/video/0,,Other%20Sports_10950,00.html
boxing_great 02-10-2009, 02:26 AM Hopkins backs Mundine to be a world champion.
What do you say to this fellas? Hopkins words over yours!
http://www.foxsports.com.au/othersports/video/0,,Other%20Sports_10950,00.html
Was he even talking about Mundine?? Not once did he mention his name. I think this was all a send up.
TheFlash 02-10-2009, 03:21 AM Was he even talking about Mundine?? Not once did he mention his name. I think this was all a send up.
No response needed to that. I guess it says it all.
brently1979 02-10-2009, 09:49 AM Hopkins backs Mundine to be a world champion.
What do you say to this fellas? Hopkins words over yours!
http://www.foxsports.com.au/othersports/video/0,,Other%20Sports_10950,00.html
Someone forgot to show Hopkins the Ottke fight and also forgot to mention that Mundine is 33 past his prime.
Machine Gunz 02-10-2009, 11:37 PM Hopkins backs Mundine to be a world champion.
What do you say to this fellas? Hopkins words over yours!
http://www.foxsports.com.au/othersports/video/0,,Other%20Sports_10950,00.html
Nothing more needs to be said. Hopkins doesnt only know boxing he IS boxing.
Machine Gunz 02-10-2009, 11:47 PM Someone forgot to show Hopkins the Ottke fight and also forgot to mention that Mundine is 33 past his prime.
Hopkins is 44, and he's still regaining titles, the man knows talent, and he's seeing exceptional talent in Mundine. Mundine has all the tools to defeat any world class fighter.
Now that The Man will be fighting under Golden Boy he will get career defining fights.
Mundine will be MW world champ
brently1979 02-11-2009, 12:01 AM Hopkins is 44, and he's still regaining titles, the man knows talent, and he's seeing exceptional talent in Mundine. Mundine has all the tools to defeat any world class fighter.
Now that The Man will be fighting under Golden Boy he will get career defining fights.
Mundine will be MW world champ
I would bet every cent I have that wouldn't come true.
Just a question do you still read Edith Blyton books?
Dan... 02-11-2009, 12:04 AM Hopkins is 44, and he's still regaining titles, the man knows talent, and he's seeing exceptional talent in Mundine. Mundine has all the tools to defeat any world class fighter.
Now that The Man will be fighting under Golden Boy he will get career defining fights.
Mundine will be MW world champ
You mean THE Middleweight champ? LOLOLOL.
brently1979 02-11-2009, 12:10 AM You mean THE Middleweight champ? LOLOLOL.
Yeah, Just like he was going to fight Winky and everyone else under the sun. Mundine won't become ****.
woftam 02-11-2009, 01:56 AM I would bet every cent I have that wouldn't come true.
Just a question do you still read Edith Blyton books?
Lol - classic.
Greatwhitehope 02-11-2009, 02:36 AM Good news, rang all the pubs and clubs in my local area, not one is holding the Mundine fight, good stuff.
Machine Gunz 02-11-2009, 08:50 AM Yeah, Just like he was going to fight Winky and everyone else under the sun. Mundine won't become ****.
The Mundine crew offered Winky a million to fight here in Aus, Winky priced himself out. da fck are you on about?
mgkirkpatrick 02-11-2009, 09:48 AM werent you leaving?
Dan... 02-11-2009, 05:57 PM The Mundine crew offered Winky a million to fight here in Aus, Winky priced himself out. da fck are you on about?
LOL. You are a complete joke son.
Looked like another stellar performance from Anthony last night. Personally I can't believe they don't charge more than $50 for cards like that. God knows they are worth it.
brently1979 02-11-2009, 06:51 PM The Mundine crew offered Winky a million to fight here in Aus, Winky priced himself out. da fck are you on about?
Winky isn't the only decent fight out there for Mundine. If you think the bums he's been fighting for the last 2 years a real fights then you need help.
Mundine could get himself on the undercard of a big fight in the USA years ago but he's chicken ****.
Machine Gunz 02-11-2009, 09:36 PM Winky isn't the only decent fight out there for Mundine. If you think the bums he's been fighting for the last 2 years a real fights then you need help.
Mundine could get himself on the undercard of a big fight in the USA years ago but he's chicken ****.
i know Mundine has fought bums in the last few years, but how do you know he wasnt trying secure top 10 SMW's? these guys wont take the risk fighting a guy so skilled but with little world wide recognition, simple as that.
i'll say this, i wont be happy if Mundine doesnt fight Sturm, he could destroy Sturm and any other MW champ, fight Sturm this year, and forget about Green. Green needs Mundine for a big payday, The Man doesnt need Green
woftam 02-11-2009, 10:56 PM i know Mundine has fought bums in the last few years, but how do you know he wasnt trying secure top 10 SMW's? these guys wont take the risk fighting a guy so skilled but with little world wide recognition, simple as that.
i'll say this, i wont be happy if Mundine doesnt fight Sturm, he could destroy Sturm and any other MW champ, fight Sturm this year, and forget about Green. Green needs Mundine for a big payday, The Man doesnt need Green
Deep down you know he will take the Green easy money and run.
brently1979 02-12-2009, 08:37 AM Deep down you know he will take the Green easy money and run.
He was interviewed on Fox Sports today and said he's staying at Middleweight and was prepared to go to Germany to fight Sturm and said there was no way he was going to Light Heavy.
Green can fly away back to retirement in his helicopter.
He was interviewed on Fox Sports today and said he's staying at Middleweight and was prepared to go to Germany to fight Sturm and said there was no way he was going to Light Heavy.
Green can fly away back to retirement in his helicopter.
i really hope hes telling the truth, but im a bit skeptical i think there is too much money to be made for him in a green fight
as for green, he can jump into the rotor of the helicopter for all i care
brently1979 02-12-2009, 09:05 AM i really hope hes telling the truth, but im a bit skeptical i think there is too much money to be made for him in a green fight
as for green, he can jump into the rotor of the helicopter for all i care
LOL. He was such a tosser turning up to his press conference in Perth in a helicopter. Someone should tell him no one cares anymore. I really hope Mundine doesn't give Green another pay day.
Machine Gunz 02-12-2009, 10:00 PM He was interviewed on Fox Sports today and said he's staying at Middleweight and was prepared to go to Germany to fight Sturm and said there was no way he was going to Light Heavy.
Green can fly away back to retirement in his helicopter.
He will be fighting Sturm in Germany, thats if Sturm doesnt decide to fight Arthur. Mundine wants Sturm, lets see if Sturm will take the risk against Mundine.
Green can fck off, Greens just after some of that Mundine money. It would not be good for Mundine to jump back up to SMW/LW, he's staying at MW
The future unified MW champ
woftam 02-12-2009, 10:17 PM Lol. Wouldn't it be funny if Green came back for another Mundine payday and Mundine never gives him a look in.
Dan... 02-12-2009, 11:44 PM LOL. He was such a tosser turning up to his press conference in Perth in a helicopter. Someone should tell him no one cares anymore. I really hope Mundine doesn't give Green another pay day.
Same. Green really doesn't deserve it. He had his chance and was disgraceful. He has never beaten any fighter that wasn't B class or worse.
Greatwhitehope 02-13-2009, 12:26 AM When exactly did the Mundine-Khoder Nasser team first come to be?
brently1979 02-13-2009, 04:13 AM When exactly did the Mundine-Khoder Nasser team first come to be?
From the beginning.
KostyaTszyu44 02-13-2009, 06:10 PM people like you cant help but buy his fights, you want to see him get KO'd so you buy his fights, admit it.
Mundine will never be KO'd again, the vid of him being dropped by crazy kim in your sig' was Mundine fighting recklessely and being clipped by a hook, all of the greatest fighters have been dropped! Fck, even Roy Jones has been KTFO.
I know Mundine hasnt fought the best in recent times, but he has the skill/talent to beat any MW/SMW. Who knows what goes on with negotiating the fights, im pretty sure he has tried making fighters top 10 fighters but no one will fight him, maybe because he is not recognised enough in the US and Europe.
The only other fighter in Aus with the talent of Mundine is Willie Kickett!
very true, but they werent dropped or KTFO by fighters of crazy kims calibre...
for instance, roberto duran, all time great fighter, ktfo by tommy hearns, fellow ATG and one of the hardest punchers ever
anthony mundine, not a great fighter, KTFO by sven ottke who was not a great fighter and one of the softest punchers of all time
get it?
KostyaTszyu44 02-13-2009, 06:17 PM people like you cant help but buy his fights, you want to see him get KO'd so you buy his fights, admit it.
Mundine will never be KO'd again, the vid of him being dropped by crazy kim in your sig' was Mundine fighting recklessely and being clipped by a hook, all of the greatest fighters have been dropped! Fck, even Roy Jones has been KTFO.
I know Mundine hasnt fought the best in recent times, but he has the skill/talent to beat any MW/SMW. Who knows what goes on with negotiating the fights, im pretty sure he has tried making fighters top 10 fighters but no one will fight him, maybe because he is not recognised enough in the US and Europe.
The only other fighter in Aus with the talent of Mundine is Willie Kickett!
or the chin lol!
brently1979 02-13-2009, 07:56 PM very true, but they werent dropped or KTFO by fighters of crazy kims calibre...
for instance, roberto duran, all time great fighter, ktfo by tommy hearns, fellow ATG and one of the hardest punchers ever
anthony mundine, not a great fighter, KTFO by sven ottke who was not a great fighter and one of the softest punchers of all time
get it?
I agree with this totally. Great fighters don't get knocked down by the fighters with the calibre of Crazy Kim. Period.
Brunswick Assassin 02-13-2009, 08:39 PM Mundine is doing a Joe Calzaghe by waiting for fighters who are well past their prime before taking them on. Period. This is evident with the Green and Taylor fights. Taylor offered Mundine $1mil-$2mil dollars to fight him back in 2002and Mundine turned him down.
Mundine turned down Green after Green destroyed Lucas at SMW in 2003 and took him on in 2006 when Green was always going to find it hard making Super Middle.
Joe Calzaghe didn't say a word from 1997 - 2007 while Roy and B-Hop were at their peaks and Joe knew he wouldn't have stood a chance against them during their undisputed reigns as World Champions and don't forget Joe was the WBO SMW champ since 1997 and never said a peep until 10 years later.
And the thing is Joe still couldn't KO Roy or B-Hop who are in their 40s which is telling you that JC is not an ATG. At best JC can be considered a 'worthy' Champ at best.
Anyone see the part at Mundine presser when Vocale asks media if they have any questions and no one bothered to ask Mundine anything???LOL Priceless ****!
Dan... 02-13-2009, 09:38 PM I agree with this totally. Great fighters don't get knocked down by the fighters with the calibre of Crazy Kim. Period.
Personally I don't agree. Any fighter can get knocked down at any time.
To be honest I think losing by a comprehensive decision is more of an indication than getting KO'd by a guy. Was Lou Del Valle an ATG fighter? Definately not. Yet he managed to drop Jones when Jones was at the absolute peak of his powers.
Boxing is unpredictable. A guy can get dropped at any time. So saying a guy is not class because "he got dropped by [insert average fighter here]" doesn't fly with me.
Just to clarify though, in no fkn way whatsoever am I attempting to stand up for Mundine. The guy is an overrated joke and I despise him.
KostyaTszyu44 02-14-2009, 04:20 AM I agree with this totally. Great fighters don't get knocked down by the fighters with the calibre of Crazy Kim. Period.
i forgot to add unless they are shot to ****...like if holyfield got dropped in his next fight by a bum he'd still be great
but yeah mundine isnt shot so no excuse for him
snoopdog 02-14-2009, 04:39 AM A group of neurosurgeons could hold a week long convention marvelling at how this bloke functions without a brain. The most devisive ,negative, obnoxious Australian boxer I can remember. No one else even comes close. The misguided few keep telling us how much he's don for Aussie boxing. Hisonly real claim to fame is surviving 12 rounds with Kessler. Unfortunately something Mundine will never try again. Mundine V Sturm I'll believe it when I see it. Mundine V Green of course it,s all about the [easy] money.
AntonTheGreat 02-14-2009, 11:37 AM mundine sucks.the guy thinks he's got the qualities to be great, but in reality all he has is the arrogance.
snoopdog 02-14-2009, 08:00 PM Why don't you run a " Mundine Lovers " thread just so those three blokes don't feel left out.
Greatwhitehope 02-16-2009, 02:47 AM very true, but they werent dropped or KTFO by fighters of crazy kims calibre...
for instance, roberto duran, all time great fighter, ktfo by tommy hearns, fellow ATG and one of the hardest punchers ever
anthony mundine, not a great fighter, KTFO by sven ottke who was not a great fighter and one of the softest punchers of all time
get it?
Your not referring to Sven '3rd greatest middleweight' Ottke are you?
Brunswick Assassin 02-17-2009, 06:54 AM World Class fighters do not get dropped off a jab like Mundine did against the Argentine kid at Middleweight. Mundine looks like he's exhausted bad at Middleweight. He should be fighting at Light Heavy against Chad Dawson or Zsolt Erdei.
Dan... 02-17-2009, 09:58 AM World Class fighters do not get dropped off a jab like Mundine did against the Argentine kid at Middleweight. Mundine looks like he's exhausted bad at Middleweight. He should be fighting at Light Heavy against Chad Dawson or Zsolt Erdei.
LOL. Mundine up against Bad Chad at 175. I would pay a fair bit to see that fight.
Brunswick Assassin 02-18-2009, 03:24 AM LOL. Mundine up against Bad Chad at 175. I would pay a fair bit to see that fight.
I know it's very highly unlikely this fight will ever take place. Mundine needs to be taking on guys like Chad if he wants World recognition. Real fighters don't pick and choose who they'll fight. You wanna be the best you gotta fight the best like Pac Man and Vic are doing.
Dan... 02-18-2009, 03:32 AM I know it's very highly unlikely this fight will ever take place. Mundine needs to be taking on guys like Chad if he wants World recognition. Real fighters don't pick and choose who they'll fight. You wanna be the best you gotta fight the best like Pac Man and Vic are doing.
Dude Dawson would have Mundine out of there in the first round and Mundine knows that. There is absolutely no way Anthony fights anyone even half as dangerous as Chad is for the rest of his career.
KostyaTszyu44 02-18-2009, 04:27 AM World Class fighters do not get dropped off a jab like Mundine did against the Argentine kid at Middleweight. Mundine looks like he's exhausted bad at Middleweight. He should be fighting at Light Heavy against Chad Dawson or Zsolt Erdei.
hahahahahhah :rofl: :rofl: ahahahaha ohhh man
lol lol
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