You know who your are!!!! I can fuking name you f*u*c*kers!!!

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Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:41:00


Huff and Puff, Manny Won't Budge



By
Dennis Guillermo


Straight From D Source: Manny Knows What's Best For Him

"At the end of the day, the only person that really cares about you is you." Quote me on that, although I'm pretty sure you've heard that one before in some similar shape or form.

Didn't I say it was deja vu? So here we are again, torn by another revenue split. As Pacquiao and Hatton fans go back and forth arguing each point, a lot of these boxing experts have again willingly laid their criticisms on Pacquiao. It's pretty much the same tune over and over. You tend to hear all this negative publicity against Pacquiao before he fights then after he proves himself in the ring, all the backpedaling commences together with the half-baked praises and flattery. But then again there are those who strongly stand by Pacquiao who are often called Pac (attach some demeaning fanatical slang term here ex. nuts, huggers, freaks). It's amazing really, how one figure can reveal such polarizing characteristics of men.

Why do people devalue and underestimate Pacquiao so much? Well, I'll leave that to the forum people to argue about. I can assure you this though- Manny Pacquiao is smarter than most of us. True, he came from poverty and hardly had any education, but it's not like the guy lacked the intelligence, there were simply more pressing things for him to worry about at that time like finding the next meal than to get an A in social studies. Also, as smart people would say, not all knowledge can be found in books. Furthermore, coming from a hard life educates you and teaches you more than anything you can learn from a classroom. No dummy would come from so low and reach as high as Manny has reached. Believe that! Any lesser man would've wilted and quit a long time ago. Say all you want, hate all you can but just remember, you are doing it behind a computer monitor or a pen while Manny sits on top of the world as the pound for pound best fighter with stacks on deck, Patron on ice saying we can pop bottles all night baby you can have whatever you like. Manny is a shrewd businessman in his own right. Don’t be deceived by the million dollar smile and his generous ways. When it comes down to business, Manny can hang with the best of them.

And of all things these people ignore about Pacquiao is that the man has principles. Call him crazy all you want but it's that type of crazy that normal people can never grasp and what pushes greats like Pacquiao to be where they're at. Yea, people said Pacquiao was crazy for asking for a bigger piece of the pie against that what De la Hoya initially offered him, but after seeing that fight one could say the only piece of any pie De La Hoya deserved together with the people that called Pacquiao crazy was a piece of some humble pie. Okay, De la Hoya was that draw, but can you tell me why the crowd almost felt like a 50/50 crowd from the get go? And if you heard the crowd reactions from every Pacquiao straight, you could’ve sworn there were no De la Hoya fans in the MGM that night.

You really think Pacquiao really cares that much about the money? Of course he cares about the money. Last time I checked it's the 21st century and money still made the world go 'round. But this is the same guy that just brushed off charges against his former promoters that stole from him simply because he says he is still indebted to them for helping him with his career. This is the same guy that spends millions to help cancer treatment in the Philippines, provide aide to his impoverished countrymen and even have extra money on the side to simply spoil his free loading hangers-on. When Pacquiao sued a Filipino writer a while back for a lot of money when he felt that writer crossed the line in some of his columns. It was a law suit Pacquiao could’ve very well have won but he dropped the charges after the writer apologized publicly about the matter. Yea, of course he cares about the money. Manny didn't volunteer to be a boxer. It's his job. But more than anything, Pacquiao values his reputation. Even if he doesn't cash another check from boxing The Pac Man is already rich. He can quit boxing and never have a money itch for the rest of his life. He's got businesses, a promotion company, movies, records that will forever receive royalty, real estate, endorsements and the list goes on. This is about pride more than money really.

De la Hoya is gone. Mayweather is still retired. Pacquiao is now the top dog. If you didn't notice, before he even put a superstar making performance against De la Hoya in front of the biggest audience in 2008, the celebrities already came out to see Pacquiao which validates his star power. And after getting a taste of the excitement and drama Pacquiao brings to the ring when he fights, you think America will drop him now? Now of all times when the spotlight is all his? WAKE UP AND SMELL THE TUYO! These boxing stuck-ups must not know anything about pop culture. Rappers like Fabolous drop verses on radio singles about Pacquiao. Heck even Rocky Balboa now wants a piece and do a movie with the Pac Man. Wake up! These people that keep insisting Pacquiao is overrated and not the draw are either lying to themselves or really out of touch with reality. I was in Indianapolis during the Pacquiao- De la Hoya fight and a few hours after they were raving about that fight on the local hip-hop radio station. I’m talking about Indianapolis man, and they know who Pacqiao is. And Pacquiao got there the hard way. He took the road less travelled and beat the best of the best and strafed no one. Ricky Hatton beat a lot of bums and Paulie Malignaggi and got knocked out by Floyd Mayweather. Nuf Sed. Better believe it, Pacquiao is now the face of boxing.



Whether you like it or not, you are living in a boxing era wherein Manny Pacquiao is currently the biggest superstar. I talked to Emanuel Steward last week and he himself said it. Don't insult our intelligence by saying Ricky Hatton deserves equal billing with Pacquiao just because he generates pay-per-view money from the UK. Hatton can sing that song with any other boxer out there, but next to Manny Pacquiao's resume and ring status, Hatton is a midget. Manny Pacquiao is aware of that. It's his time now. It comes with the territory. He has allowed the game to screw him over so many times before. Remember that gloves stipulation Morales had when he got that first win against Pacquiao? Remember all the Mickey mouse money Pacquiao got and 3 star motel room accommodations given to him back when he was already headlining in Vegas? Pacquiao already proved he was humble enough to do the dog and pony show and endure all the BS any unknown boxer from a lowly regarded region of the world has to go through just to make it in the big time. Manny Pacquiao knocked on the doors begging America to give him a shot back in the day, only to get shut down time and time again until he met Freddie Roach. And after so many years and all the hard work, Pacquiao has finally proven his worth surpassing expectations of even his most ambitious supporters and in essence kicking those once shut boxing doors open for others after him to follow. Pacquiao deserves more respect than that. And if Bob Arum doesn't think so, then maybe it's time for him to let Pacquiao go because they might as well rob Pacquiao of all his sacrifices by treating like some clueless up and coming pug. He didn't come this far to reach the top and just be treated the same way he was treated then. It's Pacquiao's time and this is simply his not so subtle way to say “it’s time to cash in on all the times these suits tried to screw him in the ass”.


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As a Filipino, I know how it is to earn your way in the world. That's why a lot of us move to a foreign country and sacrifice not seeing our families only to be treated like peasants just so we can give our loved ones a better life. What Manny wants, is simply what any regular Filipino wants. That's to be treated fairly because if there was any other person in the world that deserves it, he’d be on top of a long list. Give Pacquiao's accomplishments to any American fighter and I guarantee you that fighter would be receiving Mike Tyson or Oscar De la Hoya money right now. What's 60% of the revenue? Heck Pacquiao isn't asking for money that's not there or some kind of bonus or raise. Whether billions or 5 people watch his fight against Hatton, he just wants the percentage he deserves because he is the main draw. Without him those Hatton fans and PPV buyers would be a lot less inclined spending that money anyway. Who else can Hatton fight that can generate the excitement of a showdown against boxing’s current pound for pound best and one of its all time greatest drama kings?

No, Pacquiao has not fallen into any kind of post De la Hoya trap becuase unlike Trinidad or Mosley, Pacquaio defied odds and did the unthinkable by coming up so many weight classes and demolished a legend. Don't get that twisted. Pacquiao’s timing is more than fortunate. There is no boxer in the sport right now more bankable than him. And whether you love him or hate him or disclaim you’re his fan only to bash and underhandedly belittle him, Pacquiao is the face of boxing right now. It’s easy to be a spectator and watch then throw out “expert” opinions, but at the end of the day, Pacquiao worked hard for everything he has achieved thus he has every right to try and collect bills due to him.

You can throw all the money talk you want with Hatton's English PPV or what not but like I said, it's about principle. Manny wants the respect he deserves and is done with the days when people took advantage of him and give him the shorter end of the stick. He has positioned himself to deserve demanding 60%. When the time comes he falls back down, then he’s going to have to deal with that then but today, as in now, currently, at the moment this very minute, Pacquiao is the man calling the shots. He may move a little bit with his percentage request but Manny deserves the lion's share of the pot and by hook or by crook he will get it, or forget about it. That's what's up!

what's a filipino crab?

ang sarap.

http://photos.the-protagonist.net/albums/seafoods/IMG_3171.jpg

dude , don't compare manny's situation to hardworking pinoys that have to work hard in foreign countries or do manual labor.

manny comes from a poor background but times have changed.

he's hardballing on the difference between $15 million dollars or $18 million.

all this drama is over a few million dollars difference. good for him if his tactics work but don't make it seem like he's being oppressed or treated unfairly.

#1 CRAB ON MY LIST RESPONDED!!!

The first ***** who open her trap faster than a two bit whore pulling down her panties is the guiltiest one!

I rest my case!

FUC*KING OWNED!!!

#1 CRAB ON MY LIST RESPONDED!!!

The first ***** who open her trap faster than a two bit whore pulling down her panties is the guiltiest one!

I rest my case!

FUC*KING OWNED!!!

please...... i'm a pac nuthugger but i ain't gonna side with him on every issue.

treated unfairly? devalued?

who made more money than pacquiao in purses last year?

name them.

how much money did pacquiao make in all his purses last year?

how the hell is he devalued?

this is all about money. manny isn't making a political statement. manny isn't being disrespected.

manny wants more money. nothing wrong with that. if he can get it , get it.

don't make it seem like manny is doing something noble here. he just wants more money.

i have changed my mind. i'm w/ manny pushing for 60/40. he deserves it. he IS the face of boxing now.

This issue can be proven only after a sure decision was made. If Manny dropes the fight because he doesnt get get the bigger share, then took a fight on a smaller purse, then my hats go off to him. If he ever bites the 50/50, he's gonna be ridiculed by a lot of people.

This issue can be proven only after a sure decision was made. If Manny dropes the fight because he doesnt get get the bigger share, then took a fight on a smaller purse, then my hats go off to him. If he ever bites the 50/50, he's gonna be ridiculed by a lot of people.

both of them will get ridiculed either way.

both replacement fights for manny and ricky will make 1/3 of how much this fight will make.

problem is he agreed to 50/50 and then he changed his mind.

i heard the original offer to manny was 60/40 for pac but hatton keeps the u.k. ppv (similar to what he got from floyd)

arum didn't like this because that's a lot of money in the u.k.

that's why it got changed to 50/50 including the u.k. ppv

pacquiao agreed and either arum is playing games with gbp and this is all his plan or someone in pac's circle started whispering stuff in his ear.

Just heard a few minutes ago from the local TV Patrol Cebu, Manny has agreed to 55-45 purse split, but says anything lower than that is unacceptable.

The interview (although not shown on TV) was conducted by a female broadcaster just before Manny stepped inside the Sto. Niño Church in Cebu to pay homage to the local patron in connection with the Sinulog Festival.

Really hope this pushes through. It would be entirely Manny's fault if this potential great fight falls out.

both of them will get ridiculed either way.

both replacement fights for manny and ricky will make 1/3 of how much this fight will make.

problem is he agreed to 50/50 and then he changed his mind.

i heard the original offer to manny was 60/40 for pac but hatton keeps the u.k. ppv (similar to what he got from floyd)

arum didn't like this because that's a lot of money in the u.k.

that's why it got changed to 50/50 including the u.k. ppv

pacquiao agreed and either arum is playing games with gbp and this is all his plan or someone in pac's circle started whispering stuff in his ear.

can u give me a link where pacquiao said it himself that he agreed to a 50/50 NOT Arum talking

please...... i'm a pac nuthugger but i ain't gonna side with him on every issue.

treated unfairly? devalued?

who made more money than pacquiao in purses last year?

name them.

how much money did pacquiao make in all his purses last year?

how the hell is he devalued?

this is all about money. manny isn't making a political statement. manny isn't being disrespected.

manny wants more money. nothing wrong with that. if he can get it , get it.

don't make it seem like manny is doing something noble here. he just wants more money.

i dont think the thread starter called u out for disagreeing with pacquiao but the way you cried and bellyached through countless thread about how dumb, stupid, illiterate pacquiao is.

60-40 is already good for Hatton... **** Hatton and his team... Pacquiao deserve respect not money and Pacquiao is the face of boxing right now..

can you link to the fabo rap?

Let's go 60/40!!!!!!!

:fing02:

i dont think the thread starter called u out for disagreeing with pacquiao but the way you cried and bellyached through countless thread about how dumb, stupid, illiterate pacquiao is.

first off i was just joking.

second off , i love the guy but he isn't the smartest guy in the world. if anything i was being honest. hahaha

tua is a samoan crab

tua is a samoan crab

your lakers have been sucking the last 2 games.

my lakers will show up tonight and blow out the lebrons.

your lakers have been sucking the last 2 games.

my lakers will show up tonight and blow out the lebrons.




i dont know what you're talkin about....i dont even like basketball

dude, at the bar on friday, the ENTIRE block had a power outtage



at the 3min mark of the 4th...



i almost punched the bartender

i dont know what you're talkin about....i dont even like basketball

hahahaha

it's been rough the last 2 games.

we suck against east conference teams.

we don't know how to play boring basketball......

dude, at the bar on friday, the ENTIRE block had a power outtage



at the 3min mark of the 4th...



i almost punched the bartender

what bar did you go to?

which city was this?

what bar did you go to?

which city was this?



at plush homie...the one i told you about down the street from the old BC..


sh1t went black and i looked at the bartender like 'dont you have a backup generator...what if this was a playoff game....'


so i ran to my car and listened on the radio


power came back on at the 1min mark


life sucks

at plush homie...the one i told you about down the street from the old BC..


sh1t went black and i looked at the bartender like 'dont you have a backup generator...what if this was a playoff game....'


so i ran to my car and listened on the radio


power came back on at the 1min mark


life sucks

i know plush. been there like once.

i can't believe we lost to the magic.

the spurs i can understand. 2nd of a back to back on the road but we should have beaten the magic. 3's are our weakness.........

they better beat the lebrons or else i'm jumping ship to the queens. :D

i know plush. been there like once.

i can't believe we lost to the magic.

the spurs i can understand. 2nd of a back to back on the road but we should have beaten the magic. 3's are our weakness.........

they better beat the lebrons or else i'm jumping ship to the queens. :D




its not THAT bad...we got this tho....i expect a good effort and perhaps tacos for the first time this year

at plush homie...the one i told you about down the street from the old BC..


sh1t went black and i looked at the bartender like 'dont you have a backup generator...what if this was a playoff game....'




I always stay close beside a big boobed girl when I think it's gonna blackout.

I always stay close beside a big boobed girl when I think it's gonna blackout.




brownout techniques from pinas boss?

hijacked with a lousy basketball team...

Mga Addict sa Basketball :hijacked:.


60-40 ?? imposible yan sa tingin ko.

Sana pumayag na si Manny at Hatton sa 55-45. Sayang pag di natuloy to dahil sa pera. eh sandamakmak na pera ng mga yan.

hijacked with a lousy basketball team...

what?

kobe rules!

he's the pacman of the nba.

Mga Addict sa Basketball :hijacked:.


60-40 ?? imposible yan sa tingin ko.

Sana pumayag na si Manny at Hatton sa 55-45. Sayang pag di natuloy to dahil sa pera. eh sandamakmak na pera ng mga yan.

what's sandamakmak?

what's sandamakmak?


sandamakmak = Maraming marami, naguumapaw, sobra sobra


lots of ; Many ; Abundant ; Overflowing


Sino mas magaling? Si Michael Jordan o si Kobe Bryant? :D

sandamakmak = Maraming marami, naguumapaw, sobra sobra


lots of ; Many ; Abundant ; Overflowing


Sino mas magaling? Si Michael Jordan o si Kobe Bryant? :D

it's an insult to compare kobe to mj.

mj is not on kobe's level.

compare kobe to greater players like magic , west and bird. :)

sandamakmak = Maraming marami, naguumapaw, sobra sobra


lots of ; Many ; Abundant ; Overflowing


Sino mas magaling? Si Michael Jordan o si Kobe Bryant? :D

Just ask who among the two can do a reverse double pump dunk on top of the other in a one-on-one matchup and there you have the answer :D

it's an insult to compare kobe to mj.

mj is not on kobe's level.

compare kobe to greater players like magic , west and bird. :)

are you trying to say that MJ is a commercial icon and not a basketball great?? :wave:

are you trying to say that MJ is a commercial icon and not a basketball great?? :wave:

i credit mj for making me a lakers fan.

when i was a kid and i first came from pinas , i was a big larry bird fan and i liked the color green. i was a celtics fan in l.a. during the late 80's.

i hated mj. i thought he was so overrated.

i rooted for magic in '91 against the bulls. i became a lakers fan ever since.

i credit mj for making me a lakers fan.

when i was a kid and i first came from pinas , i was a big larry bird fan and i liked the color green. i was a celtics fan in l.a. during the late 80's.

i hated mj. i thought he was so overrated.

i rooted for magic in '91 against the bulls. i became a lakers fan ever since.

but kobe used to wear these :

http://images.nicekicks.com/images/316132-991_400.jpg

i credit mj for making me a lakers fan.

when i was a kid and i first came from pinas , i was a big larry bird fan and i liked the color green. i was a celtics fan in l.a. during the late 80's.

i hated mj. i thought he was so overrated.

i rooted for magic in '91 against the bulls. i became a lakers fan ever since.


I use to hate Jordan too. Very much!!!

I root for Magic and the Lakers in 91
I root for Clyde and Buck Williams in 92
I root for Charles Barkley in 93
I root for Kemp and Payton in 96
I lost money on the JAzz in 97 and 98 :(


I hope you're just Joking but Kobe doesnt eve come close to MJ really in terms of legacy :( <-- This is the last comment i'll make about this. :)

btw i was a die hard Laker fan in the 80's. I started out in 82 When kareem and Magic won it but was massacred by Moses Malone and the sixers the next year.

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:haha: lol

i rooted for magic in '91 against the bulls. i became a lakers fan ever since.
4-0 :haha: :haha:

4-0 :haha: :haha:


Magic went 0 - 4 againts the Sixers in 83 , and againts the Pistons in 89















'Magic' also lost to the Rockets 0-4 in 95 :D

eto na yung walis pareng miron

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/407673483_cc89631278.jpg

teka medyo out of topic ata tayo dito. 60-40 ako LOL.

teka medyo out of topic ata tayo dito. 60-40 ako LOL.

kahit 55-45 ayos na sa akin pre.. kahit alam kong di tayo maambunan!!http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/images/icons/icon9.gif

biruin mo yung 5% na pantulong ni pac sa iba nating kababayan..



sana ayos lang dyan pre..

I use to hate Jordan too. Very much!!!

I root for Magic and the Lakers in 91
I root for Clyde and Buck Williams in 92
I root for Charles Barkley in 93
I root for Kemp and Payton in 96
I lost money on the JAzz in 97 and 98 :(


I hope you're just Joking but Kobe doesnt eve come close to MJ really in terms of legacy :( <-- This is the last comment i'll make about this. :)

btw i was a die hard Laker fan in the 80's. I started out in 82 When kareem and Magic won it but was massacred by Moses Malone and the sixers the next year.

i liked the lakers too. i was more a bird fan as a kid than a celtics fan.

that's why with bird gone i switched to the lakers. funny......when they were winning championships i wasn't a lakers fan but when they sucked in the 90's i was. it was entertaining with nick , eddie , campbell , vlade , etc. we'd beat a good team by 20 points one night and lose by 20 to a crappy team the next. lol

nah......you know i talk out of my ass a lot. kobe is better in a lot of areas than mj but as far as legacy right now mj is way ahead. if kobe wins 4 more titles before he retires......all bets are off though.

Magic went 0 - 4 againts the Sixers in 83 , and againts the bulls in 91

'Magic' also lost to the Rockets 0-4 in 95 :D

the bulls didn't sweep the lakers.

teka medyo out of topic ata tayo dito. 60-40 ako LOL.

kobe vs mj na ngaun. off topic na un 50-50 :D

kahit 55-45 ayos na sa akin pre.. kahit alam kong di tayo maambunan!!http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/images/icons/icon9.gif

biruin mo yung 5% na pantulong ni pac sa iba nating kababayan..



sana ayos lang dyan pre..Ayos lang pareng do.

Pabor ako 60-40 pero ke hatton :D

the bulls didn't sweep the lakers.Kobe and shaq were swept by the dream LOL.

kobe vs mj na ngaun. off topic na un 50-50 :DGanun ba? Alang binatbat si Jordan ke Kobe pag dating sa chikabubay. :D

Ganun ba? Alang binatbat si Jordan ke Kobe pag dating sa chikabubay. :D

Matulis kasi si Kobe kaya di sya marecognize na ATG :D

Matulis kasi si Kobe kaya di sya marecognize na ATG :D
Nakarma sa sobrang pagka matulis. :D

Si Jordan bading daw at malapit nang mag ladlad gaya ni bebe gandanghari :lol1:

the bulls didn't sweep the lakers.

You're correct.

Now i remember Jordan's last second jumper rattles off the rim. it was 4-0 after that :)

I was thinking about the Pistons in 89 I need to edit it :D

You're correct.

Now i remember Jordan's last second jumper rattles off the rim. it was 4-0 after that :)

I was thinking about the Pistons in 89 I need to edit it :D

pistons got lucky. half the lakers were injured and didn't play.

Nandito na si Magic at Jordan.:p

only liked the lakers during magic and kareem's time. never liked it in kobe's time.

MJ >>> KB.

loved the celtics in any era.

allen iverson > Kobe :D

no to 50-50.

to all saying it's about pac's greed, fvck you lol.

BTW, Miachael Jordan will be in here (in the Bahamas) Jan.22-25 for the annual Michael Jordan Celebrity Golf Tournament. According to the news release, Justin Timberlake will join this year's tournament. I saw Charles Barkley last year.

Nandito na si Magic at Jordan.:p

since i'm poorer than you......

i'm changing my name to stocktonpearl. :)

speaking of earl the pearl monroe.

you know the guy went into the lakers locker room last night and asked kobe if he can take a picture of him. (not a picture with him , just a picture of him)

he told the reporters kobe is the only player he has ever asked to get a picture off.

kobe was embarassed considering earl is one of the 50 greatest nba players of all time and he used to copy earl's moves since he invented the spin move.

he told the pearl , "no. you have to be in the pic too. i want a copy of the pic of me with you."

speaking of earl the pearl monroe.

you know the guy went into the lakers locker room last night and asked kobe if he can take a picture of him. (not a picture with him , just a picture of him)

he told the reporters kobe is the only player he has ever asked to get a picture off.

kobe was embarassed considering earl is one of the 50 greatest nba players of all time and he used to copy earl's moves since he invented the spin move.

he told the pearl , "no. you have to be in the pic too. i want a copy of the pic of me with you."
that doesnt make him better than jordan :p

that doesnt make him better than jordan :p

i know.

i was just passing on a story i read.

imagine......he used to adore earl monroe and copy his moves and now the guy is asking for permission to take his picture. funny.



kobe's 7th title in 2012 will seal his greatness over jordan. :)

speaking of earl the pearl monroe.

you know the guy went into the lakers locker room last night and asked kobe if he can take a picture of him. (not a picture with him , just a picture of him)

he told the reporters kobe is the only player he has ever asked to get a picture off.

kobe was embarassed considering earl is one of the 50 greatest nba players of all time and he used to copy earl's moves since he invented the spin move.

he told the pearl , "no. you have to be in the pic too. i want a copy of the pic of me with you."

After taking the pic Monroe, Kobe raped Monroe's daughter. http://www.juanmanuelmarquez.com/forum/Smileys/more/hump.gif

Just kidding. http://www.juanmanuelmarquez.com/forum/Smileys/more/laughingfloor.gif

sino ba si mj at kobe? Mas magaling ba sila kay Ducut? :D

Ducut is da bes!!!! :D

Ducut is da bes!!!! :D

Distrito >> Ducut :D

Ducut is da bes!!!! :D

Distrito >> Ducut :D

i don't even know who you guys are talking about.

all i know is jaworski. :(

After taking the pic Monroe, Kobe raped Monroe's daughter. http://www.juanmanuelmarquez.com/forum/Smileys/more/hump.gif

Just kidding. http://www.juanmanuelmarquez.com/forum/Smileys/more/laughingfloor.gif

i would make fun of a sacramento queens player......but i don't know who plays for your team.

bibby still there? lol sucks to not even have 1 single player with potential.....and tell yourself you're rebuilding......

i know.

i was just passing on a story i read.

imagine......he used to adore earl monroe and copy his moves and now the guy is asking for permission to take his picture. funny.



kobe's 7th title in 2012 will seal his greatness over jordan. :)
the championships with shaqavic dont count.

the championships with shaqavic dont count.

why not?

he got us those titles.

kobe was the man against the west.

why do you think everyone was looking for a kobe stopper? the west had a bunch of big men that could at least contain fat boy.

fat boy only looked great in the finals. in the playoffs......kobe carried the team.

why not?

he got us those titles.

kobe was the man against the west.

why do you think everyone was looking for a kobe stopper? the west had a bunch of big men that could at least contain fat boy.

fat boy only looked great in the finals. in the playoffs......kobe carried the team.
but shaq was THE man during those championship years. as we have seen last year kobe cant win the championship even with pau and them.

but shaq was THE man during those championship years. as we have seen last year kobe cant win the championship even with pau and them.

shaq was considered the man in the regular season and in the finals.

but against the twin towers and vlade/webber/miller , kobe had to be the man. they had sufficient length to bug fat boy.

shaq couldn't win with hardaway. he couldn't with with jones and van exel. he had to wait for kobe to mature. isn't it a coincidence that shaq only finally won after kobe had grown up?

shaq couldn't win with hardaway. he couldn't with with jones and van exel. he had to wait for kobe to mature. isn't it a coincidence that shaq only finally won after kobe had grown up?


A non prime shaq lead the Magic to it's first finals. An old Shaq lead the Heat to it's first Championship.

Tua

You are crazy to even think that the LAKERs championship run doesnt belong to SHAQ. OMG!!!!

It takes at least two Gunner to win it. 1. Jordan 2 Pippen, 1. Wade - 2. SHaq. it was


SHAQ-Kobe againts the Pacers
SHAQ-Kobe againts Sixers
SHAQ-Kobe againts the Nets

Guess who was the MVP? :nonono:

Guess who was the MVP? :nonono:

Michael Jordan :D

A non prime shaq lead the Magic to it's first finals. An old Shaq lead the Heat to it's first Championship.

1 finals appearance with orlando. i'll give him that.

he was a good sidekick for kobe for 3 years.

the heat championship was thanks to the referees.

Tua

You are crazy to even think that the LAKERs championship run doesnt belong to SHAQ. OMG!!!!

It takes at least two Gunner to win it. 1. Jordan 2 Pippen, 1. Wade - 2. SHaq. it was


SHAQ-Kobe againts the Pacers
SHAQ-Kobe againts Sixers
SHAQ-Kobe againts the Nets

Guess who was the MVP? :nonono:

he was a big part of the team but people make it seem like shaq did all the work and kobe just helped him.

you mention all the finals mvp shaq won against smaller , inferior eastern teams.

against the western teams in the playoffs , kobe was the main guy a lot.

the kings had very serviceable big men , portland had skilled big men , san antonio had the twin towers. they could help contain shaq or at least match his stats closely.

there's a reason all those teams had to go find a "KOBE STOPPER".

he was a big part of the team but people make it seem like shaq did all the work and kobe just helped him.

you mention all the finals mvp shaq won against smaller , inferior eastern teams.

against the western teams in the playoffs , kobe was the main guy a lot.

the kings had very serviceable big men , portland had skilled big men , san antonio had the twin towers. they could help contain shaq or at least match his stats closely.

there's a reason all those teams had to go find a "KOBE STOPPER".
and you make it all seem like kobe did all the work. those two guys better thank big shot rob for bailing their asses back in game 4 of the west finals against the queens or they would have not become three-time champs! :D
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look at kobe! tirang takot! :D that was clutch huh :)

1 finals appearance with orlando. i'll give him that.

he was a good sidekick for kobe for 3 years.

the heat championship was thanks to the referees.
ok, im agreeing with you on this one just for the sake of argument. kobe had shaq as his sidekick, then why cant the lakers win the championship when shaq was gone? and in 2004 why did not he single-handedly carried the lakers past the pistons?

and you make it all seem like kobe did all the work. those two guys better thank big shot rob for bailing their asses back in game 4 of the west finals against the queens or they would have not become three-time champs! :D
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look at kobe! tirang takot! :D that was clutch huh :)

shhh......don't talk about that shot. pareng chups doesn't like it.

did vlade get an assist for that play? :)

ok, im agreeing with you on this one just for the sake of argument. kobe had shaq as his sidekick, then why cant the lakers win the championship when shaq was gone? and in 2004 why did not he single-handedly carried the lakers past the pistons?

kg21 , by the time shaq left everyone was gone. no fisher. no fox. no horry. no malone. no payton. basically the only one left was luke walton , brian cook and slava medvedenko.

a team that has smush parker as its starting point guard and kwame brown as it's starting center is not going anywhere.

people forget that kobe had the lakers in 1st place last year BEFORE pau gasol came.

kg21 , by the time shaq left everyone was gone. no fisher. no fox. no horry. no malone. no payton. basically the only one left was luke walton , brian cook and slava medvedenko.

a team that has smush parker as its starting point guard and kwame brown as it's starting center is not going anywhere.

people forget that kobe had the lakers in 1st place last year BEFORE pau gasol came.
yeah, but when it mattered most he didnt deliver especially during game 4 of last years finals, i think he was passive during crunch time. they cant even put away the suns when they lead 3-1 in that series. i remember that kobe had 50 but still they lost. they could not guard tim thomas who nailed the dagger 3 that sent the game into ot.

yeah, but when it mattered most he didnt deliver especially during game 4 of last years finals, i think he was passive during crunch time. they cant even put away the suns when they lead 3-1 in that series. i remember that kobe had 50 but still they lost. they could not guard tim thomas who nailed the dagger 3 that sent the game into ot.

at least no one fouls kobe on purpose in crunch time. :)

shhh......don't talk about that shot. pareng chups doesn't like it.

did vlade get an assist for that play? :)
probably LOL! :D, i was rooting for sacto to win that series but unfortunately big shot rob nailed that dagger 3. the only player that wasn't scared to take a big shot on that team was mike "mini-me" bibby.

at least no one fouls kobe on purpose in crunch time. :)
i give you that one. but he's hitting his free throws now. that's why he has a new name, SHAQOVIC! :D

kobe > michael jordan ???

lefty is trippin '

MJs legacy >>>>> kobe 80+ points in a game

SHAQ gave the lakers the championship..

NOBODY ELSE

:D

I think things were beginning to get out of hand here again... Just to reiterate again, MJ can lead all fckin stats department against Kobe but in no way he's gonna win against Kobe one-on-one, prime vs. prime. So Kobe>MJ. :D

probably LOL! :D, i was rooting for sacto to win that series but unfortunately big shot rob nailed that dagger 3. the only player that wasn't scared to take a big shot on that team was mike "mini-me" bibby.

lol kawawa naman si pareng chups.

dabat kasi lakers fan siya.

lahat naman ng pinoy dabat lakers fan. :)

i always liked bibby. he's doing good for atlanta. turned that whole team around.

i give you that one. but he's hitting his free throws now. that's why he has a new name, SHAQOVIC! :D

man......he he'll miss like 20 in a row watch! lol

kobe > michael jordan ???

lefty is trippin '

MJs legacy >>>>> kobe 80+ points in a game

SHAQ gave the lakers the championship..

NOBODY ELSE

:D

what? i didn't say kobe has a better legacy. i just don't think mj is AUTOMATICALLY so much superior to kobe. kobe does a lot of things better than him but obviously unless kobe wins 4 more titles (7 according to kg21 'cause he doesn't count the 1st 3! lol) mj has the better legacy.

mj never scored 81 points. his highest total was probably 60 something less than what kobe did in 3 quarters against the mavs. :)

lol kawawa naman si pareng chups.

dabat kasi lakers fan siya.

lahat naman ng pinoy dabat lakers fan. :)

i always liked bibby. he's doing good for atlanta. turned that whole team around.



man......he he'll miss like 20 in a row watch! lol
and being alongside what analyst would like to call him a "poor man's lebron james" joe johnson aint bad either, plus young guns like josh smith,marvin williams and al horford. their pretty much set for 5 years, and they could add some pieces with the 2010 free-agent summer coming up.

LMAO!! he can do that to, but right now i think he's shooting the lights out, for his standards. he's shooting 67.5% from the FT line.

what? i didn't say kobe has a better legacy. i just don't think mj is AUTOMATICALLY so much superior to kobe. kobe does a lot of things better than him but obviously unless kobe wins 4 more titles (7 according to kg21 'cause he doesn't count the 1st 3! lol) mj has the better legacy.

mj never scored 81 points. his highest total was probably 60 something less than what kobe did in 3 quarters against the mavs. :)
i didnt say that tuaman! :D he should win 5 more coz the last one was a gift from big shot rob!

and being alongside what analyst would like to call him a "poor man's lebron james" joe johnson aint bad either, plus young guns like josh smith,marvin williams and al horford. their pretty much set for 5 years, and they could add some pieces with the 2010 free-agent summer coming up.

LMAO!! he can do that to, but right now i think he's shooting the lights out, for his standards. he's shooting 67.5% from the FT line.

imagine if bosh joins joe , bibby and josh in 2010. :scared:



our young center went 8/11 from the ft line last night. it's been so nice to not having to worry about someone missing 2 free throws all the time. :)

what? i didn't say kobe has a better legacy. i just don't think mj is AUTOMATICALLY so much superior to kobe. kobe does a lot of things better than him but obviously unless kobe wins 4 more titles (7 according to kg21 'cause he doesn't count the 1st 3! lol) mj has the better legacy.

mj never scored 81 points. his highest total was probably 60 something less than what kobe did in 3 quarters against the mavs. :)
i think it was 69 in a playoff game against the prime celtics back when fouls was rare.

i think it was 69 in a playoff game against the prime celtics back when fouls was rare.

63 and it was double overtime.

mj one on one with kobe... prime for prime

i got MJ.. 60/40 ! ! ! !

ya'll musta forgot !!!!!!

mj one on one with kobe... prime for prime

i got MJ.. 60/40 ! ! ! !

ya'll musta forgot !!!!!!

60/40?

he's gonna spot kobe 20 points? hehehe

I cant even believe someone would even mention Kobe and MJ in the same sentence...

Just imagine if MJ was still playing today.... He would do to Kobe on the court what Kobe did to that white girl in Colorado....

Tua, surely you jest.

imagine if bosh joins joe , bibby and josh in 2010. :scared:



our young center went 8/11 from the ft line last night. it's been so nice to not having to worry about someone missing 2 free throws all the time. :)
yeah, and they need to build a strong 2nd unit to that formidable starting line-up.

I cant even believe someone would even mention Kobe and MJ in the same sentence...

Just imagine if MJ was still playing today.... He would do to Kobe on the court what Kobe did to that white girl in Colorado....

Tua, surely you jest.

oh **** you're back.

mj is gonna have sex with kobe and kobe is gonna sue him for money?

nah......kobe gets paid enough. he don't need to extort mj.

oh **** you're back.

mj is gonna have sex with kobe and kobe is gonna sue him for money?

nah......kobe gets paid enough. he don't need to extort mj.

Yeah, Im back....

The only good memory of Kobe is Chris Childs giving him a two-piece knuckle sandwich and crying about it...lol

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Now this homo takes karate lessons...LMAO

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Yeah, Im back....

The only good memory of Kobe is Chris Childs giving him a two-piece knuckle sandwich and crying about it...lol

Now this homo takes karate lessons...LMAO

kobe is not a fighter.

he's one tough basketball player though.

kobe is not a fighter.

he's one tough basketball player though.
no hes not. hes 100% gay though
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here's more proof tuaman!
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yuck! one thing i know is his better than MJ at this! :D
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more of your b-ball idol :D
he's been exposed! LOL!
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