View Full Version : Shawn Tompkins“I just can’t see Arlovski winning the fight”


snakerattle79
01-14-2009, 06:31 AM
http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/09/shawn-tompkins-interview-part-i-i-just-cant-see-arlovski-winning-the-fight/

Shawn Tompkins is one of the foremost authorities in MMA on the art of striking and thanks to Jake Hattan, one of his managers at Denaro Sports Marketing, FiveOuncesOfPain.com was recently granted an opportunity to interview the Xtreme Couture striking specialist.

In Part I of our interview, Tompkins discussed the preparations he’s current making in getting four fighters ready for Affliction’s “Day of Reckoning” on Jan. 24; his thoughts on whether Vitor Belfort has enough left to make a run a major middleweight title; and his feelings about famed boxing trainer Freddie Roach’s assessment of Fedor Emelianenko’s striking.

Sam Caplan (FiveOuncesOfPain.com): You’re a pretty busy many these days as you are helping multiple fighters get ready for Affliction’s “Day of Reckoning” on January 24. Can you talk a little more about that?

Shawn Tompkins: I’m in the middle of one of my biggest training camps that I have ever had to date. I’ve got Mark Hominick, Chris Horodecki, Jay Hieron, and Vitor Belfort all preparing for big fights on January 24 for the Affliction card. We’re full steam ahead and we’ve got about three weeks left as of today. It’s all going good and everyone is healthy, which is the key.

Sam Caplan (FiveOuncesOfPain.com): Belfort is such an interesting case. He’s had so many ups and downs in his career and is a former UFC light heavyweight champion. He comes out of Brazil and trained there for years and I wanted to know how you came about working with him?

Shawn Tompkins: Vitor wanted to come out originally to work with Randy Couture because Vitor has really turned to religion and he really respected the way Randy carried himself as a human being.

Ultimately, that’s what made him decide to come to Las Vegas. At the time I was working with Wanderlei Silva and a couple of other Brazilians that I was starting out with as well and my success as an MMA coach got back to him. He had his management connect with me and we worked together for a couple of days and see if it would go together. We’ve worked great together ever since.

Sam Caplan (FiveOuncesOfPain.com): Vitor has made the move to 185 and he’s still in his early 30s. However, he’s been in so many wars over the years that he might be old for his age and I wanted to ask if you felt if he has enough left in him to make a run at a middleweight title?

Shawn Tompkins: Absolutely. And I’ve been telling people this since the last Affliction card where everyone has been like “Wow, the old Vitor is back.” I truly believe that it’s not the old Vitor and it’s a brand new Vitor that is more determined and more motivated. I think the 185 pound division causes him to have to work harder between fights and maintain.

It’s also been a long time since Vitor has had a real team behind him. I think where Vitor went well in the past is that after he had some success — and this has happened many times with other fighters — he surrounded himself with people that just say “You’re the greatest! Everything you do is perfect! You’re good — you’re good” and they don’t push him. And they don’t set it up and he has to come into the gym and do what he has to do rather than what he wants to do. I think he’s really matured and changed in that way.

As far as his body holding up, he’s a physical specimen. He doesn’t carry his age through any of the wars that he’s had. Sure, he’s had some tough fights but I don’t think he’s had any wars that will feed on him later in his career.

Sam Caplan (FiveOuncesOfPain.com): You mentioned Chris Horodecki at the top of the interview and he” be fighting Dan Lauzon on Jan. 24. He’s come out and promised a surprise for Lauzon and while I know you can’t give the surprise away, can you give us a hint as to what we can expect?

Shawn Tompkins: What people are going to see ultimately is a more well-rounded Chris Horodecki. He gained a huge fanbase during his IFL days but I was really doing Bas Rutten a favor by putting Chris Horodecki in there at such a young age. Obviously, it worked very well for Bas and I and Chris. But now since April we’ve had some time to really just sit down and focus more on his training and career and round him out more so that he’s not just a kickboxer.

He’s a great kickboxer but we really spent a lot of time on improving his ground game as far as his jiu-jitsu and his wrestling. If anybody looks at Dan Lauzon, that’s his strength. I think we’re doing a really good job with our training of Horodecki. He’s a great kid and he’s a single-minded person. He knows what he’s good at and he knows what he needs to get better at.

Sam Caplan (FiveOuncesOfPain.com): Horodecki is one of the best fighters in the world under the age of 22, yet he’s got several years of experience. How young was he when he came to you?

Shawn Tompkins: Chris and I started working together when he was 12 years old. I tell people this a lot, and he does too, we’ve got a real father/son relationship. We’ve won together and we’ve lost together. So there’s nothing we haven’t seen and we both know that there’s a lot of room for improvement and I’m always very excited in his fight camp when I put them together because I take them very personal and I always like to see him improve.

Sam Caplan (FiveOuncesOfPain.com): The main event on that card is Fedor Emelianenko vs. Andrei Arlovski and famed boxing trainer Freddie Roach recently broke down Fedor’s striking in an interview with SI.com. He specifically talked about how Fedor strikes from a flat footed position and he also indicated that he felt his aggressive nature could be used against him. What is your assessment of Fedor as a striker and do you agree with what Roach said?

Shawn Tompkins: First of all, I respect Freddie Roach more than any other trainer in the business and that’s in boxing and martial arts. When he says something it’s generally gold. But I will go against him in a way where he says Fedor’s punching isn’t technical and that it isn’t good because obviously, he’s the greatest. There are some cases with certain people that when everything they do wrong turns out right and that’s what you have in Fedor.

As far as an aggressive nature with Arlovski, I think that’s a positive for Fedor. If you look at the past with Arlovski, when he doesn’t do well is when he gets hit and gets hurt and that’s when Arlovski falls a part. He’s a very confidence-driven fighter. He needs to be winning in order to do well and look good.

I just can’t see Arlovski winning the fight. I think it’s a really bad fight for him but I think it’s a fight that he has to do. Best of luck to him, obviously, and I think Freddie Roach is a great trainer and I have respect for him at the upmost but I just don’t think he understands Fedor like the rest of us in the MMA game do.

jakkups
01-14-2009, 09:51 AM
I can see Arlovski winning the fight so long as he pulls the trigger and stays on his toes. But ultimately thats just wishful thinking on my part because I see Fedor taking this on points.

DaneNoodles
01-14-2009, 10:01 AM
anyone that can see arlovski winning - is a hater.

NO CHANCE

THATS JUST WHAT CHA GOT

jakkups
01-14-2009, 10:06 AM
anyone that can see arlovski winning - is a hater.

NO CHANCE

THATS JUST WHAT CHA GOT

How so exactly? It's a fight everyone has chance no matter how big or small. Lest we forget Serra/GSP I, Penn/Hughes I, Couture against basically every guy he ever fought in his career. It's called being objective not hating pal.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-14-2009, 01:03 PM
anyone that can see arlovski winning - is a hater.

NO CHANCE

THATS JUST WHAT CHA GOT

Wow, this coming from the guy that thinks Lesnar can KO Fedor.

Palma
01-14-2009, 03:34 PM
It will be a great match!

DaneNoodles
01-14-2009, 05:35 PM
Wow, this coming from the guy that thinks Lesnar can KO Fedor.


Are your argumentative skills so ****ing bad that you have to lie? Pathetic. I've never said that.

Arlovski is old news. Fedor is still the champ.

You can pretend arlovski has a chance if you want to... the whole "everyone has a chance thing" doesn't work vs Fedor. He's an anomale. The greatest. The PBF of MMA.

This match will be just as "great" as Silva's.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-14-2009, 05:39 PM
Are your argumentative skills so ****ing bad that you have to lie? Pathetic. I've never said that.

Arlovski is old news. Fedor is still the champ.

You can pretend arlovski has a chance if you want to... the whole "everyone has a chance thing" doesn't work vs Fedor. He's an anomale. The greatest. The PBF of MMA.

This match will be just as "great" as Silva's.

:stupid:

What? Talking about bad argumentative skills, you're the one assuming that I think Arlovski can win.

DaneNoodles
01-14-2009, 05:41 PM
^ I guess your just unfunny, then.

jakkups
01-14-2009, 05:44 PM
The PBF of MMA.


So you think he's an arrogant overrated money grubber who runs for the hills once his weight division starts getting tough. How anyone would compare PBF and Fedor is beyond logic?

DaneNoodles
01-14-2009, 06:00 PM
lol@once his weight division gets tough... he moved up more than one weight class.

secondly - i could care less for a fighters personality.. its their job to win.. and pbf wins. just like fedor.

thirdly... he's coming out of retirement for a reason... so haters like you can shut their mouths.

i'd be delighted if pacman could beat him... but he's the goat.

jakkups
01-14-2009, 06:14 PM
lol@once his weight division gets tough... he moved up more than one weight class.

secondly - i could care less for a fighters personality.. its their job to win.. and pbf wins. just like fedor.

thirdly... he's coming out of retirement for a reason... so haters like you can shut their mouths.

i'd be delighted if pacman could beat him... but he's the goat.

You are delusional plain and simple.

PBF comes to win?! Everyone comes to win you fool, way to state the obvious. Only difference between Fedor coming to win and PBF coming to win is that PBF will bore the hell outta you and try avid fighting as much as possible. Fedor comes to take you apart and never takes a backwards step. I mean when was the last time PBF took out a guy in 36 seconds that had a weight advantage and an 8 inch height advantage.

Oh yeah, NEVER!

Floyd's a boxer, Fedor is a fighter.

Floyd is a phenomenal talent but he is not the GOAT.

And I'm not a hater, but you are obviously a nuthugger.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-14-2009, 09:01 PM
You are delusional plain and simple.

PBF comes to win?! Everyone comes to win you fool, way to state the obvious. Only difference between Fedor coming to win and PBF coming to win is that PBF will bore the hell outta you and try avid fighting as much as possible. Fedor comes to take you apart and never takes a backwards step. I mean when was the last time PBF took out a guy in 36 seconds that had a weight advantage and an 8 inch height advantage.

Oh yeah, NEVER!

Floyd's a boxer, Fedor is a fighter.

Floyd is a phenomenal talent but he is not the GOAT.

And I'm not a hater, but you are obviously a nuthugger.

:boxing: Hit the nail on the head.

lol@once his weight division gets tough... he moved up more than one weight class.

secondly - i could care less for a fighters personality.. its their job to win.. and pbf wins. just like fedor.

thirdly... he's coming out of retirement for a reason... so haters like you can shut their mouths.

i'd be delighted if pacman could beat him... but he's the goat.

Jesus Christ. Do you know anything about the sport/Fedor? You do realize that Brock lost to Frank Mir, right? You do realize that comparing a humble wrecking machine to a spoiled and over payed fake champion is completely void of logic, right? You do realize that if you multiplied your knowledge of this sport by 5,000+ that you still wouldn't understand it the way myself or jakkups does, right?

And most importantly of all, you do realize that you are a nuthugger, right? You remind me of the soft guys who come into the gym because they THINK they know what they're doing and THINK they understand what it means to be a fighter and THINK that they understand the sport, the kind of guys that make me look over to the seasoned boxers in my gym and ask, "How long do you think this one will last?"

You're a joke, ho.

DaneNoodles
01-14-2009, 11:25 PM
says the dude going for his FIRST jiujitsu lesson..

suck a dick juicehead


I said fedor is the pbf of mma, and ya'll turn this **** around like i'm saying other things, lol.

PBF is the goat... in my opinion... OF BOXING..
Fedor is the goat... in my opinion... OF MMA..

therefore... Fedor is the PBF of MMA...
PBF is the Fedor of Boxing.

when I watch pbf, i know he's gonna win... just like when i watch fedor..

i'm sorry that you get bored by someone who has mastered the art of boxing fully. maybe you should take that pacman picture down though, because you are clearly not a fan of boxing, if you can't appreciate a strong 12 round fighter like floyd.

sorry you musclehead testosterone hgh users need a constant adrenaline rush to be entertained, but its boxing.. theres more to it than 36 second knockouts

Spare Moody
01-15-2009, 12:16 AM
I can see Arlovski winning the fight so long as he pulls the trigger and stays on his toes.

i agree. that's the only chance he's got, providing he can actually sneak a gun all the way into the ring.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-15-2009, 02:28 AM
says the dude going for his FIRST jiujitsu lesson..

suck a dick juicehead


I said fedor is the pbf of mma, and ya'll turn this **** around like i'm saying other things, lol.

PBF is the goat... in my opinion... OF BOXING..
Fedor is the goat... in my opinion... OF MMA..

therefore... Fedor is the PBF of MMA...
PBF is the Fedor of Boxing.

when I watch pbf, i know he's gonna win... just like when i watch fedor..

i'm sorry that you get bored by someone who has mastered the art of boxing fully. maybe you should take that pacman picture down though, because you are clearly not a fan of boxing, if you can't appreciate a strong 12 round fighter like floyd.

sorry you musclehead testosterone hgh users need a constant adrenaline rush to be entertained, but its boxing.. theres more to it than 36 second knockouts

And how many Jiu Jitsu lessons have you gone to? Just because I haven't been actively involved in a single aspect of MMA doesn't mean I'm not more knowledgeable of the sport than you.

If you see Fedor as the GOAT, call him the GOAT not the PBF. I can respect a 12 round boxer, I'm a huge fan of Bernard Hopkins who usually won't put himself at risk but still can entertain me.

And yeah, because I am in good shape and can bench press more than you means I'm a "musclehead" right? I must be using HGH, even though my grandfathers and uncles are all above 6'4, not to mention my little brother who has been 6'2 since he was 16. Makes sense, right? Since I just can't be born with different genes than the normal person. I guess Brock Lesnar does steroids too, right?

You remind me of something else now. The kids in high school that used to try and spread rumors about how I was using steroids, and how every time I got a pimple it was because, "HE WAS JUICING!!!" Know what's funny? None of those kids knew what hard work was, which I'm assuming is the same case for you. I have earned what I have through hard work and dedication, nothing more and nothing less.

Now please get off my dick, I know you're accustomed to riding Brock's but please don't get us confused. He's the paler one with the 90's hair cut.

jakkups
01-15-2009, 09:57 AM
says the dude going for his FIRST jiujitsu lesson..

suck a dick juicehead


I said fedor is the pbf of mma, and ya'll turn this **** around like i'm saying other things, lol.

PBF is the goat... in my opinion... OF BOXING..
Fedor is the goat... in my opinion... OF MMA..

therefore... Fedor is the PBF of MMA...
PBF is the Fedor of Boxing.

when I watch pbf, i know he's gonna win... just like when i watch fedor..

Moronic logic once again. That's like saying that Michael Phelps and Tiger Woods are the same because they're the best in their sport yet are two completely different athletes both in trade and substance.

Knowones turning anything around whatsoever. As soon as you put fingers to keyboard your problems begin.

i'm sorry that you get bored by someone who has mastered the art of boxing fully. maybe you should take that pacman picture down though, because you are clearly not a fan of boxing, if you can't appreciate a strong 12 round fighter like floyd.

sorry you musclehead testosterone hgh users need a constant adrenaline rush to be entertained, but its boxing.. theres more to it than 36 second knockouts

Sorry pal not a juicer, just check my picture out in the lounge and see for yourself.

And please don't even try act like I'm not a fan of boxing. I am a huge boxing fan, have been and always will be. I appreciate Floyd for the talent he has and his accomplishments. But saying that I have to lke Floyd in order to be a boxing fan is not only the statement of a dumbass, but it reinforces the fact that you are still talking and acting like a nuthugger. See if you took Floyd's balls out of you mouth and realised that boxing is bigger than PBF then maybe you could start appreciating it more.

I don't like boxing. . . Give me a break. Hell I was watching Pernell Whitaker run rings round guys for years. I was in the building when Gerald McCellan fought Nigel Benn. I was there to see Ricky Hatton beat the great Kostya Tszyu in Manchester, and I followed Lennox Lewis from his first pro bout up until his last, and as for the Pacquiao picture, I appreciate true warriors of boxing and as it stands today, he's the best out there both in terms of skill and value. Those are just a few things I've mentioned, I could go on all day. But someone like yourself who is obviously someone who knows little to nothing about anything boxing related due to the mancrush you have on PBF. Take heed of your own advice. . . boxing is more than just PBF.

DaneNoodles
01-15-2009, 11:45 AM
Moronic logic once again. That's like saying that Michael Phelps and Tiger Woods are the same because they're the best in their sport yet are two completely different athletes both in trade and substance.

Micheal Phelps is def the Tiger Woods of swimming.

It's not logic... it's a popular expression...

i could say fedor is the elvis presley of fighting... it'd still make sense

this has nothing to do with intelligence or logic... just pop culture man.. chill pill

and i love big dudes that get bent out of shape when people joke like they use steroids

SOOOOOOOO INSECURE

take a chill pill hot head.

DaneNoodles
01-15-2009, 11:45 AM
But someone like yourself who is obviously someone who knows little to nothing about anything boxing related due to the mancrush you have on PBF.

I hate PBF with a passion, just like the next guy... But all my moneys riding on him.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-15-2009, 01:33 PM
Micheal Phelps is def the Tiger Woods of swimming.

It's not logic... it's a popular expression...

i could say fedor is the elvis presley of fighting... it'd still make sense

this has nothing to do with intelligence or logic... just pop culture man.. chill pill

and i love big dudes that get bent out of shape when people joke like they use steroids

SOOOOOOOO INSECURE

take a chill pill hot head.

Turn it around like I'm insecure, right? That's the typical the second step of people attempting to make fun of someone bigger than them.

PS: Forum Warriors are the most insecure of all.

DaneNoodles
01-15-2009, 02:34 PM
lol... if you werent insecure about it you wouldnt need to keep on this silly back and forth diss nonsense.

i'm a very small guy... but fighting works with Weightclasses, and trust me I'm not worried about streetfighting these are sports.

personally i dont wanna do MMA for my weightclass cause i dont need some kung fu ninja backflip kicking my teeth out and slaughtering my ass.. so im taking boxing... learning a lil mma on the side.

YUHHHHHHH!
01-15-2009, 03:26 PM
lol... if you werent insecure about it you wouldnt need to keep on this silly back and forth diss nonsense.

i'm a very small guy... but fighting works with Weightclasses, and trust me I'm not worried about streetfighting these are sports.

personally i dont wanna do MMA for my weightclass cause i dont need some kung fu ninja backflip kicking my teeth out and slaughtering my ass.. so im taking boxing... learning a lil mma on the side.

Back and forth entails two parties. Dig?

Street fighting is dumb, all it effects is false pride and jail time.

:haha: @ ninja backflip. I'll be watching for that to happen in '09. I want to read a wikipedia article with someone's record saying KO R1 Ninja Backflip

DaneNoodles
01-15-2009, 04:14 PM
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this popular fighter named Law who fights in the Tekken circuit ****ing THWOMPS dudes with the ninja backflips

YUHHHHHHH!
01-15-2009, 04:57 PM
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this popular fighter named Law who fights in the Tekken circuit ****ing THWOMPS dudes with the ninja backflips

Well, even ridiculously skilled striking is nullified by Jiu Jitsu/fear of a take down. I would never risk using one of those kicks in a fight. The penalty for failure with a backflip in the middle of a fight is really second to none.

DaneNoodles
01-16-2009, 10:11 AM
yeah but all jokes aside... a mean tae kwon do or hapkido kick to the head and your ****ing annihilated.