View Full Version : M.J. Innocent or Guilty??


nickeboy
01-06-2004, 10:33 AM
I think the guy is out of his mind and looks like a freak..But I don't think he is that stupid to risk everything he worked for just for a little WE-WE!

Tha Playa
01-06-2004, 10:36 AM
That crazy ****er is guilty as hell.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38289000/jpg/_38289931_jackson150.jpg

Mr. Beelzebub
01-06-2004, 10:50 AM
I don't think that freakazoid did it either.

nickeboy
01-06-2004, 10:51 AM
how in gods name does he breathe through that thing!!

Allison
01-06-2004, 10:58 AM
I don't deny that he's not right in the head, but I don't think he did it. i think in his mind, he's a little boy, and therefore, doesn't understand that its inappropriate to sleep with other boys..

The Mouse
01-06-2004, 11:02 AM
I'd like to believe that he did it. But I don't know all of the facts so I have no right to make a judgement on a blind argument.

Purity
01-06-2004, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Hermes' Baby Momma
I don't deny that he's not right in the head, but I don't think he did it. i think in his mind, he's a little boy, and therefore, doesn't understand that its inappropriate to sleep with other boys..

exactly. but he still needs to get his ass kicked. just because yer rich and famous doesn't mean that you have the right to pull the outrageous stunts that this ****in weirdo has done.

Allison
01-06-2004, 11:09 AM
Agreed.

The Mouse
01-06-2004, 11:10 AM
I think he’s a freak like all of you too; but what FACTS has the public seen that convince them of his guiltiness? None. It’s all hearsay and word of mouth dished out by the media. Don’t be cattle and think what the majority thinks without the hard proof. Do your own thinking and research.

Tha Playa
01-06-2004, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by Hermes' Baby Momma
I don't deny that he's not right in the head, but I don't think he did it. i think in his mind, he's a little boy, and therefore, doesn't understand that its inappropriate to sleep with other boys..
Doesn't this say that he is guilty though?
Just because he doesn't understand that it's not right doesn't make him innocent for doing it.

Allison
01-06-2004, 11:11 AM
No, I meant sleep in the same bed, not literally molesting them.

Allison
01-06-2004, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Mouse
I think he’s a freak like all of you too; but what FACTS has the public seen that convince them of his guiltiness? None. It’s all hearsay and word of mouth dished out by the media. Don’t be cattle and think what the majority thinks without the hard proof. Do your own thinking and research.

Thats what anyone who isnt involved in the case gets. People base their opinions on it. Why would we be "cattle" when you've based yours on the same criteria? Unless you have an inside ear on this case then you're basing your opinions on the same media, even if they happen to be different..

The Mouse
01-06-2004, 11:17 AM
I haven’t substantiated an opinion on the matter, like I said above. Therefore I’m not looking to the media for guidance, and my argument is neutral until the facts are released from the court.

Tha Playa
01-06-2004, 11:17 AM
I don't think he is maliciously trying to molest them, I just think he lives in another world. Whether he is proven innocent or guilty I think his ass needs to be in the nut house for life.

Fallout
01-06-2004, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Hermes' Baby Momma
Thats what anyone who isnt involved in the case gets. People base their opinions on it. Why would we be "cattle" when you've based yours on the same criteria? Unless you have an inside ear on this case then you're basing your opinions on the same media, even if they happen to be different..

ACtually Allison, it sounds like Matt is saying he doesn't know if Jacko is guilty or not. He is just telling everyone to know jump the gun on anything. I think thats a good idea in any case. Reguardless of who it is

Tha Playa
01-06-2004, 11:21 AM
I am basing my belief on the things he has done to himself and his lifestyle, which hasn't been fabricated as far as his fantasy world and the like. He's a nutjob that has a facination with small boys. He thinks he is peter pan and he even named his compound "neverland". That's about enough for me.

Allison
01-06-2004, 11:22 AM
The fact that he paid someone off years ago says to me that this mother or her attorney didn't really think they could get a conviction, so they didn't push it.

If they had of, they would still get the money, assuming they sued him in civil court as well (which they would have done).

Why else would you not want the man who molested your child to be held liable unless there was nothing to be held liable for?

The Mouse
01-06-2004, 11:24 AM
Why else would you not want the man who molested your child to be held liable unless there was nothing to be held liable for?

Money. $

Allison
01-06-2004, 11:28 AM
But they would get the money either way.

So if your child was molested, would you rather have him convicted, and get money..

or

get money and not care if the guy molests another child?

The Mouse
01-06-2004, 11:34 AM
So if your child was molested, would you rather have him convicted, and get money..

I'd convict him myself with my knife in his own house before he goes to trial.

But that’s a whole different story. We’re not talking about a matter-of-fact here, we’re talking about a 50/50 opinion percentage that is swayed in both directions by the media. In this case, we don’t know the facts; all we have is an accusation.

Tha Playa
01-06-2004, 11:35 AM
It could have been that the family didn't feel like they had enough evidence to convict Jacko. If he was truly innocent why would he pay them off, instead of taking it to court and clearing his name?

Purity
01-06-2004, 11:37 AM
he needs to get convicted EVEN IF HE'S INNOCENT. **** legality. i'm sick of him. he thinks everything's ok because he's stuck in la-la land. he thinks because peter pan sleeps with kids that HE can do it too!!!
HEY BUDDY! REALITY CHECK!! IN THE REAL WORLD WE DON'T SLEEP WITH CHILDREN.

get with the times. hey, back in caveman days we beat some ***** over the head with a club, drug her by her hair back to our caves, and **** her raw whether she liked it or not. but since it's not acceptable to do that anymore.....WE DON'T DO IT.

he needs to get convicted, stripped of his assets, spend some time in jail, get his ass kicked hard a few good times, released with no money, and go out and earn a living. whatever; just smack reality into him.

Allison
01-06-2004, 11:38 AM
Because taking it to court would have cost him, much, much more in money, time, and stress. I don't think there are many people who, in that situation, would have risked taking it to court...Even if they had found him innocent of the crime, his name wouldn't be clear. People would still chock it off to him having a good attorney..

Allison
01-06-2004, 11:40 AM
I'm really not disagreeing that something should happen..Maybe they should make it illegal for him to have children in his home unsupervised...I'm just saying that I'm not convinced that he actually molested anyone.

Tha Playa
01-06-2004, 11:46 AM
I agree that it would have cost more money to go to trail, but he wasn't being accused of something minor, he was being accused of molesting kids! That is something that anyone would want to be cleared of IMO no matter how much money and stress it takes, assuming they didn't do it in the first place.

The Mouse
01-06-2004, 11:49 AM
Back then if I put myself in his shoes... I'd gladly pay them some pocket change and leave, rather then have my name in the paper for an on-going media frenzy of court procedings of a molestation case. I'd want to put it behind me and move on as soon as possible.

Tha Playa
01-06-2004, 11:50 AM
But nobody has forgotten that incident. If he thought paying that family off would make people forget, he is a looney-toon. Nobody forgets accusations of molestation.

nickeboy
01-06-2004, 11:53 AM
The gut is definately not all there..he thinks hes PETER PAN!!!

The Mouse
01-06-2004, 11:55 AM
Of course no one can forget that incident, don’t be stupid. But think of how you would think about it now if that case had gone on for a whole year rather than a month, even if he was found innocent. His name, every day, on all the news channels giving the fat little American public it’s meal of daily gossip of his court proceedings. Instead he decided to avoid all of that, pay them off and get them out of his life before they made it any worse off for him.

nickeboy
01-06-2004, 11:58 AM
I just think he is dumb for letting strangers come in his house like that..The parents are crazy for leting them go too..but I also think the reason they let their kids go is because they see $$$$ they figure once their kid stays at MJ's house they now have him by the balls and make the kids state false things so maybe MJ will settle out of court for a ****load of money...

Tha Playa
01-06-2004, 11:58 AM
And now he's back in the same ****storm as before. Looks like he would have learned a lesson from the first time. It's just all to convienent for him to be innocent. Either he's guilty or very stupid.

The Mouse
01-06-2004, 12:03 PM
The American public loves to indulge themselves into other peoples lives through the media so they don’t have to focus on their real internal problems. They look on their external and avoid the self-help, self-focusing that we all need. Who the hell cares about how a music star is living his life besides the ignorant American public? No other country that I know about, that’s for damn sure. This is one of the reasons that I keep looking at our government and media differently, it’s shifted in the wrong direction here. Priorities; our priorities are all ****ed up, and who made us that way? The media partly, but the media is just feeding the natural hunger that the American public is raised to starve for. Reality TV, Entertainment shows, media that makes the most minuscule things a controversial frenzy in order to stroke the dicks of the American public a little bit more so that they’ll be pleased. It’s all bull**** to me. Michael Jackson Michael Jackson, who the **** cares? There’s way worse people out there than him doing WAY worse things.. but do we care? Hell no, because they aren’t embraced by the MEDIA like Jackson is. Get your priorities straight and start looking at the big picture, after you start focusing on yourself. Make your own decisions, on the facts that YOU see with your own eyes, and stop believing in what the majority is telling you; because most of it is unsubstantiated and false.