We hear historians constantly reiterate that history of the past repeats itself onto future events. Thus philosophers state that they can create a general prediction of the future and its events by looking at the patterns generated by the past itself. It’s funny how history and philosophy sometimes intertwine in ideas, but are still on opposition with theological studies concerning this subject.

To me, it does appear that history often repeats itself; to a degree. That degree is the fact that is overlooked or blatantly ignored in order for historians to find some sense in the world that they study. My question to you is this: Do you feel that the ideas generated by historians and philosophers can coexists with those of Christendom theology?

Its very hard for them to do so. Histoy is based totaly on facts and the persons view of thoses facts.

Philosophy is the same thing but in reverse. Philosophy uses feelings to create facts. Taking a look at the greastest philosophers, they shaped thier views on the world by thier feelings and beliefs as much as the facts.

Theology is totaly in compatable with these two in its pureist form because theology has no room for facts or feelings. You are just given your belives and have to decided for yourself if its true or not.

The Bible has told us that the world is 10,000 years old. The history of the earth that we can study however would suggest that the world is closer to 65,000,000 years old. History Philosophy and Theology, while closely related can't really co-exist.

I didn’t word my question correctly, damn. I see what you’re saying and I agree with you.. but what about along the lines of history repeating itself? History and philosophy are pretty close in their ideas concerning this, where as theology is quite the opposite.

History does repeat its self but only because of the faults of human beings. There are always mad men who try to take over the world. There are always massacers of innocent people.

The evils of the world always seem to repeat themselves

Everything can repeat itself if you look at it broadly enough. My point is that history does not repeat itself, we just look at it from a broad aspect in order to feed the rumor that it does in fact repeat through the ages. To assume that history repeats itself, will make sense out of a senseless world for those who do not support theology; like historians and philosophers. See my point?

I think ideas repeat themselves. History doesn't repeat its self in a true historic sense, but more of a repeating of ideas

Ideas, sure… broad ideas that are a necessity for survival. Come to power, war, greed, etc. repeats itself. But come on, that’s going to “repeat” itself until the end of the time. It’s like saying, “People just keep on eating food every single day, every day repeats itself.” It’s a broad view of repeating that is generalized for all of histories contents. Philosophers take what’s written in bold lettering, (which are the necessities of life), and say that ALL of histories contents, (or ideas rather), repeat themselves… when in fact they do not if you look at what lies beneath the bold lettering.

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Ideas, sure… broad ideas that are a necessity for survival. Come to power, war, greed, etc. repeats itself. But come on, that’s going to “repeat” itself until the end of the time. It’s like saying, “People just keep on eating food every single day, every day repeats itself.” It’s a broad view of repeating that is generalized for all of histories contents. Philosophers take what’s written in bold lettering, (which are the necessities of life), and say that ALL of histories contents, (or ideas rather), repeat themselves… when in fact they do not if you look at what lies beneath the bold lettering.

Its thoses broad ideas that the majority of people are talkign about however. I also fits in with the theory that we will never learn. People will always be greedy dispite the fact that they know it only ends up harming them in the long run. People try to dominate other dispite the fact they know they won't be able to control them forever.

We kill each other, murder, rape and destory each other thru out history. Thats the idea of history repeating its self

Now compare it to Christendom theology. What are your thoughts?

People need to start breaking away from all these set ideas of the way things are like historians say this is the way things happened or the church tells all this is the way things are. I am sick of this bull, people need to follow thier own beliefs and follow what they think is right. My beliefs are very varied and very eclectic, I take in the philosiphy of and beliefs of christians, historians, philosiphers, buddhists, the samurai, confucious, and more. I will probably never rely soundly on one theory.
Sorry i just felt like babbling.

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Now compare it to Christendom theology. What are your thoughts?

Thoughts about theology? Isn't that kind of an oxy-moron?

Theology is basied on blief. You really can't think about theology. If you did, it would be Philosophy

Of course it’s not an oxymoron, it’s meant to be studied until the day you die. Jesus walked the earth to teach.. to have people THINK about what he was saying and study it. Theology is the study of religion, it’s far from an oxymoron.

too many big words. i can't get into it cause i'm pretty busy at the office. too keep it simple:

-love God
-treat others how you would yourself
-don't be stupid

JC is the man

Don't stray from the damn point of this thread.:devil