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astroboy
01-02-2004, 03:02 PM
Im glad there is a world leader with a pair still and isnt affraid to stand up for whats right.

President Bush Declares
Protection of Marriage Week

President George W. Bush signed a declaration proclaiming the week of Oct 12th through Oct 18th as Marriage Protection Week. "Marriage is a union between a man and a woman," says the proclamation.

Homosexual Activists groups were quick to point out that "No such proclamation was issued by the White House for a similar week supporting same-sex relationships."

"Marriage Protection Week provides an opportunity to focus our efforts on preserving the sanctity of marriage and on building strong and healthy marriages in America," said the proclamation. Bush also noted his proposals to promote marriage such as family friendly taxation and a healthy marriage initiative to help couples develop the skills and knowledge to form and sustain healthy marriages.


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Good job George bout time someone put their foot down.

VulgarTheClown
01-02-2004, 03:26 PM
what the **** kinda idiocy is that?

Fallout
01-02-2004, 05:37 PM
Oh so what if two gay people want to get married. I don't give a ****. Leave them alone and focus on something important

astroboy
01-02-2004, 07:40 PM
it is important

gays cant get married period!

it opens a can of worms , once they do that then theres nothign stopping them from having 3 girls getting married and 2 girls and one guy or what ever mix makes people feel good.

marriage is sacred always has been and always should be.

Stain
01-02-2004, 08:20 PM
George Bush and astroboy are correct.

nance
01-02-2004, 09:22 PM
I agree with President Bush.

realkaps
01-02-2004, 09:28 PM
Stain is correct......

handjobs4dollars
01-02-2004, 10:30 PM
Gay's should get married. I'm tired of them having a care free life style. They should have to marry and get kids and live a hard life like the rest of us.

astroboy
01-02-2004, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by Gman
Gay's should get married. I'm tired of them having a care free life style. They should have to marry and get kids and live a hard life like the rest of us.


rrrrright

Fallout
01-02-2004, 11:19 PM
Man I just don't see the big deal. Who gives a **** about what two consenting adults do? All they want is a name to call thier relationship.

I couldn't give two ****s what they did and I think this is whats wrong with socity. We waste time and energy worring about things like this and not enough time worrying about homelessness, child poverty and important issuses.

Does is really matter one way or the other if two men or women who love each other are "married"?

astroboy
01-03-2004, 05:17 PM
because marriages are sacred and bound by god. this is the belief behind marriage which makes it sacred. To take that away further and make it for anyone who just wants a title makes a mockery of the specialness, the spiritualness and the beauty behind it.

NOT only that but a mockery of god. FOr those who dont believe in god most of them will be married most likley to someone who does believe to an extent and more likley married by a priest in a church or outside the church. If you want to utilize the institution of the church "when you feel fit" for your own insecurities in what your doing to ****ing bad. The churches veiws and laws were there before small groups of ppl with crooked opinons wanted to force changes on it. As i said early it opens a can of worms and also enables society to further justify more divorce, and a more relaxed attitude towards.

If god wanted it to change for us all, he would give us more tablets off of a mountain with a holy man presenting them to us.

It is what it is, it has worked for MILLENIA after MILLENIA, dont fix it if it aint broke.

Fallout
01-03-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by astroboy
because marriages are sacred and bound by god. this is the belief behind marriage which makes it sacred. To take that away further and make it for anyone who just wants a title makes a mockery of the specialness, the spiritualness and the beauty behind it.

NOT only that but a mockery of god. FOr those who dont believe in god most of them will be married most likley to someone who does believe to an extent and more likley married by a priest in a church or outside the church. If you want to utilize the institution of the church "when you feel fit" for your own insecurities in what your doing to ****ing bad. The churches veiws and laws were there before small groups of ppl with crooked opinons wanted to force changes on it. As i said early it opens a can of worms and also enables society to further justify more divorce, and a more relaxed attitude towards.

If god wanted it to change for us all, he would give us more tablets off of a mountain with a holy man presenting them to us.

It is what it is, it has worked for MILLENIA after MILLENIA, dont fix it if it aint broke.

Having you ever heard of the seperation of church and state? They aren't looking for reilgious acceptace. They just want the same protection and treatment that the goverment gives us. They want to have a ceremony and that special day. Reilgon has no place in politics. Well, it SHOULD have no place. Unfortunatly it does.

I don't care what other people do. Let them do it and worry about important things

astroboy
01-03-2004, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Creed
Having you ever heard of the seperation of church and state? They aren't looking for reilgious acceptace. They just want the same protection and treatment that the goverment gives us. They want to have a ceremony and that special day. Reilgon has no place in politics. Well, it SHOULD have no place. Unfortunatly it does.

I don't care what other people do. Let them do it and worry about important things


It is a matter of fact that the laws of the world originated from religion. AND i completely agree that politics and religion dont go well together in "most" scenarios.

But here is the reality for you, when the goverment needs to make decisions based on "values" and "morals" then it is the churches duty to stand up for what most of the world has lost because of government choices and that my friend is our "moral compass"

True freedom does not lie in our being able to do whatever WE like, but in doing whatever the LORD likes. It is not arrogant to recognize God's authority over us. It is the height of arrogance to put our preferences over God's.

It is not arrogant to believe that every church not directly founded by Christ is false. Jesus founded only ONE Church and promised to remain with it. He didn't make any such promises about any protesting off-shoots. Our Church is not a democracy and God is not a divine president. He's God!

pretty simple really.

Fallout
01-03-2004, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by astroboy
It is a matter of fact that the laws of the world originated from religion. AND i completely agree that politics and religion dont go well together in "most" scenarios.

But here is the reality for you, when the goverment needs to make decisions based on "values" and "morals" then it is the churches duty to stand up for what most of the world has lost because of government choices and that my friend is our "moral compass"

True freedom does not lie in our being able to do whatever WE like, but in doing whatever the LORD likes. It is not arrogant to recognize God's authority over us. It is the height of arrogance to put our preferences over God's.

It is not arrogant to believe that every church not directly founded by Christ is false. Jesus founded only ONE Church and promised to remain with it. He didn't make any such promises about any protesting off-shoots. Our Church is not a democracy and God is not a divine president. He's God!

pretty simple really.

What about people that don't follow your reiligon?

I am not saying I am in favor or against gay marriages. I just think there a lot more important things to worry about and I think its funny people just worked up about something like this and don't care about a lot of other, more important things

astroboy
01-03-2004, 06:17 PM
Absolutly, for those who dont believe in god as i said earlier then please dont try to come into gods house and try to change what has been in place for the past 2000 years.

This issue is not "BIG" but is detrimental if laws are passed in its favour. So its better to stand up and say something in this case to keep ourselves guided in the right direction.

There are ALOT of important things all of them being dealt with by each leader or each country, and each leader of each religion. They all do something to help and put together plans for that.

THis gay topic is just one of the many small issues which if approved snowballs into more and more attacks and complaints, trying to change what it is.

So we just stick firm with what we know as morally right and has been working for that long. There have been gay ppl in history and you never hear about complaints about such things as it is pointless.

ie: alexandar the great was gay and so what his army. They choose their path to follow but tryting to push your own personal wants onto a whole body (the catholic church) is futile and wrong.

If you bring a fight to the church about morals, the church knows better then anyone which direction to take with that. (being humans though .... we are fallable i hope they stand strong and dont make those human mistakes especially on these sorts of topics).

Piedra
01-03-2004, 10:04 PM
Bush should marry colon powell.

Fallout
01-03-2004, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Piedra
Bush should marry colon powell.

Agreed

Kempo Chris
01-03-2004, 10:40 PM
Bush is the man

lightweight
01-03-2004, 11:06 PM
I agree with Bush, and I agree that gays should not be married.

Fallout
01-03-2004, 11:26 PM
I just don't see what gives me the right to decide what two consenting adults do in thier spare time.

I would like to ask everyone is it the fact that they use the name marrage? If they got the same protection under law but called it a different name, would it bother you then?

lightweight
01-03-2004, 11:32 PM
If these "comitted" couples got the same benefits I wouldn't really care. But marriage is a bond with God, I believe the term and act is sacred and shouldn't deviate from what the Bible says.

astroboy
01-03-2004, 11:49 PM
Also not only is it sacred and religious.

It also is for people who are going to have children. That is what it was originally meant for.

Fallout
01-04-2004, 12:20 AM
So lets give it a different name. It won't be a marrage it will be a bonding.

Does that make a difference?

astroboy
01-04-2004, 12:33 AM
LOL

you are now officailly into bondage

Fallout
01-04-2004, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by astroboy
LOL

you are now officailly into bondage


hahahahaha

seriously though, is it the used of the name marrage thats offencive or the idea that gays should be treated the same by the goverment?

handjobs4dollars
01-04-2004, 01:30 AM
You should go to my moms church "unitarian". They love gays

Fallout
01-04-2004, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by Gman
You should go to my moms church "unitarian". They love gays

I am going to let someone else get this one

hesatool
01-04-2004, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Creed
Man I just don't see the big deal. Who gives a **** about what two consenting adults do? All they want is a name to call thier relationship.


Exactly. So why then do they HAVE to get married? Why to take advantage of the tax system and insurance benefits. They can have their ceremonies all they want, but they should not be allowed the same privelages as a normal family.