1. Anderson Silva (22-4-0)
The ever-fickle MMA fan base questioned Silva's top pound-for-pound status after his bizarre October outing with Patrick Cote. Seemingly a victim of his own violent success, MMA's middleweight ruler was criticized for in-fight passivity and lollygagging despite complete control over the bout at hand. However, Silva will likely get the opportunity to atone for the Cote debacle come February at UFC 95 in London, where a rumored 205-pound bout with Chuck Liddell could come to fruition.

2. Georges St. Pierre (17-2-0)
St. Pierre's August blowout of Jon Fitch easily supplanted Rich Franklin-David Loiseau as the most sustained, one-sided title fight in UFC history. "Rush" blasted Fitch for 25 minutes, turning the AKA product's survival into the most amazing part of the bout. On Jan. 31, St. Pierre will look to address the one continuously nagging question in his career when he takes on fellow pound-for-pounder and lightweight ruler B.J. Penn at UFC 94. Against “The Prodigy,” St. Pierre will aim to put a more definitive stamp on his 170-pound supremacy in what could go down as an all-time MMA classic.

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Fedor Emelianenko
3. Fedor Emelianenko (28-1-0, 1 NC)
It could be temporary, but Affliction will give MMA's greatest heavyweight the opportunity to meet some of the division's best opposition. Emelianenko will finish his acting work on a forthcoming action movie in Thailand this month and then set about training for his Jan. 24 showdown with former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski.

4. B.J. Penn (13-4-1)
While the UFC's 155-pounders continue to duke it out for the rights to challenge Penn, come Super Bowl weekend the Hawaiian will look to avenge his controversial March 2006 split decision loss to Georges St. Pierre. For Penn, it is not only the chance to avenge a highly contentious loss but also to validate his celebrated status in notching what would be the biggest win of his career.

5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (31-4-1, 1 NC)
Things just got much more interesting for MMA's perennially second heavyweight. While he must first deal with Frank Mir on Dec. 27, if "Minotauro" emerges victorious, he'll meet up with Brock Lesnar in the new year. The fight would be the Brazilian's biggest bout in years and a potential stage for a vintage Nogueira performance.

6. Miguel Torres (33-1-0)
One of 2008's breakout stars, Torres will look to end the year with an emphatic statement against his toughest test to date when he takes on fellow chicano Manny Tapia in the headliner of the Dec. 3 WEC bill. While a victory would entrench him deeper as the kingpin of the emergent bantamweight division, he'll have little time for rest as the surging Brian Bowles takes on Brazilian banger Will Ribeiro on the same card, likely producing his next challenger.

7. Forrest Griffin (16-4-0)
After back-to-back surprises in taking out Mauricio "Shogun" Rua and Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, Griffin has earned his status as the sport's top light heavyweight. The first challenge for the TUF 1 winner's title will come from TUF 2 winner Rashad Evans at UFC 92 on Dec. 27. Another victorious performance would give Griffin back-to-back-to-back wins that would be tough for anyone in MMA to rival.

8. Quinton Jackson (28-7-0)
With the worst of his legal mess behind him, "Rampage" is now locked into a bout that could be as pivotal as any in his career. Having severed ties with former trainer Juanito Ibarra, who had been in the sidecar with Jackson for his resurgence, "Rampage" is now set for a third showdown with archrival Wanderlei Silva on Dec. 27 at UFC 92. Jackson will be under the microscope as fans and pundits look to see how he performs after training with England's Wolfslair Academy for his final chance to erase memories of his brutal highlight-reel stoppages at the hands of "The Axe Murderer."

9. Thiago Alves (16-3-0)
Alves is one of the sport's most dynamic young talents. But more than that, with his outstanding October victory over fellow welterweight elite Josh Koscheck, he has taken out three straight top-10 fighters in arguably MMA's richest weight class. When Alves finally does get a crack at the UFC welterweight crown, he will have more than earned it by beating top-shelf opposition in stirring fashion.

10. Eddie Alvarez (15-1-0)
Alvarez was considered a can't-miss welterweight prospect after completely rifling his first 10 opponents. However, he has come into his own since his cut to the lightweight division. His thrilling “Fight of the Year” candidates against Joachim Hansen and Tatsuya Kawajiri, two perennially outstanding lightweights, have affirmed him as one of the sport's great young stars. A plethora of intriguing bouts await.

It's completely ridiculous to put Anderson Silva over Fedor Emelianenko. He has not faced the same level of competition (Comparing Dan Henderson and Rich Franklin to Nog and a prime Mirko? Or Nate Mardquardt and Travis Lutter to Arona, Sobral, Hunt, etc...? At the time Hunt was coming off of wins over Wand and Mirko). Anderson has also lost to who many consider lesser competition in Ryo Chonan and Daiju Takase. He didn't lose BS decisions, he was finished by both. Both of them were also much smaller fighters.

Not to mention, Anderson Silva is a large guy for his division. He is 6'2" and cuts down from 210lbs in his off season. He can fit in at 205 and be as big as those guys. Fedor is barely 6' tall and a pudgy 230lbs and fights guys much larger than himself. His last opponent being a top 5 ranked Tim Sylvia who had 8-9 inches and 40lbs on him. He finished him in 36 seconds.

To not factor the two different sizes into the P4P list is absurb.

You can at least make a point to rate GSP higher, as he has the most top 10 wins in MMA (Second place belonging to Nog).

Um last time I checked Fedor Emelianenko was P4P number 1.

Fedor dont' deserve the #1 spot.. i think the listing Palma has up there is about right

BJ Penn would lace everyone on that list

lololololololol @ that list.

lololololololol @ that list.


i like that list....

Fedor has to be #1

i can maybe see the Anderson argument, but in no way is GSP ahead of Fedor

i like that list....

Good for you, but I still lolololololololol whenever I see Sherdog's rankings. Might as well put Brock Lesnar up there, along with Sokoudjou and Gonzaga.

Giant Silva, too.

Bottom line is, Fedor is #1 P4P. Any other ranking is a complete joke. Whether you respect him or not (and if you don't respect him, you're a fatass American piece of ****. You're probably the type of person who lost their virginity to a woman wearing overalls with less than three teeth.) you have to give it to him, Fedor is 'numero uno,' number one. The be all end all figure of MMA. The first and last true champion, he will always be considered the best, whether he finishes without anymore losses or loses his next 50 fights. It's the way it will always be, Fedor is a legend. To quote Kevin Randleman, "The best fighter to climb into ANY arena is Emelianenko fedor. He is in his own league and you can't compare nobody." It's ludicrous to put anyone above this man on a list.

If you can't accept what I've just said, you need to get the **** over the fact that no UFC fighter will ever touch Fedor.

the same fedor who fought in a roided up pride fc, which had its suspicious fights??? where fighters were asked 2 take dives every now an then 2 make other fighters look good?

the same fedor who fought in a roided up pride fc, which had its suspicious fights??? where fighters were asked 2 take dives every now an then 2 make other fighters look good?

LOL @ That statement. "Suspicious fights???" You sound like a middle aged woman going through menopause. EVERY organization has "suspicion" involved, and it's a stretch to even call it that. Let me guess, you're ranking UFC above PRIDE now, right? Don't be a retard.

I'm talking about the same Fedor that just dropped the "Greatest Heavyweight Striker to ever complete in the UFC" in 36 seconds. I'm talking about the same Fedor that has more wins over top fighters than any Heavyweight in the entire history of the UFC.

I'm talking about the same Fedor that holds the following titles:

WAMMA World Heavyweight Champion, July 19, 2008 - present
PRIDE Heavyweight Champion, March 16, 2003 - April 8, 2007
Winner 2004 PRIDE Grand Prix Tournament
Winner 2002 RINGS Kings of Kings Tournament
Winner 2001 RINGS World Class Tournament

I'm talking about the same Fedor that holds 11 World Combat Sambo titles and four Top 5 Rankings. If you'd like to make another retarded argument feel free, I'm here all night.

LOL @ That statement. "Suspicious fights???" You sound like a middle aged woman going through menopause. EVERY organization has "suspicion" involved, and it's a stretch to even call it that. Let me guess, you're ranking UFC above PRIDE now, right? Don't be a retard.

I'm talking about the same Fedor that just dropped the "Greatest Heavyweight Striker to ever complete in the UFC" in 36 seconds. I'm talking about the same Fedor that has more wins over top fighters than any Heavyweight in the entire history of the UFC.

I'm talking about the same Fedor that holds the following titles:

WAMMA World Heavyweight Champion, July 19, 2008 - present
PRIDE Heavyweight Champion, March 16, 2003 - April 8, 2007
Winner 2004 PRIDE Grand Prix Tournament
Winner 2002 RINGS Kings of Kings Tournament
Winner 2001 RINGS World Class Tournament

I'm talking about the same Fedor that holds 11 World Combat Sambo titles and four Top 5 Rankings. If you'd like to make another retarded argument feel free, I'm here all night.

Now I know that Dana and the UFC billed Sylvia as "the greatest striker" but anyone who has their eyes open during his fights can clearly see that his striking strategy is basically based on "sit there and wait until you land a lucky shot"

With that out of the way, I am a huge Fedor fan, and I don;t see any reason why he should have lost his #1 P4P status.

LOL @ That statement. "Suspicious fights???" You sound like a middle aged woman going through menopause. EVERY organization has "suspicion" involved, and it's a stretch to even call it that. Let me guess, you're ranking UFC above PRIDE now, right? Don't be a retard.

I'm talking about the same Fedor that just dropped the "Greatest Heavyweight Striker to ever complete in the UFC" in 36 seconds. I'm talking about the same Fedor that has more wins over top fighters than any Heavyweight in the entire history of the UFC.

I'm talking about the same Fedor that holds the following titles:

WAMMA World Heavyweight Champion, July 19, 2008 - present
PRIDE Heavyweight Champion, March 16, 2003 - April 8, 2007
Winner 2004 PRIDE Grand Prix Tournament
Winner 2002 RINGS Kings of Kings Tournament
Winner 2001 RINGS World Class Tournament

I'm talking about the same Fedor that holds 11 World Combat Sambo titles and four Top 5 Rankings. If you'd like to make another retarded argument feel free, I'm here all night.


man u got an image of every response to your Fedor is God bs..........its very funny i give u that....ive all ive seen from gsp and silva this past year is dominate and make above average fighters look very normal....as for fedor just because he beat a former ufc heavyweight champ who we all knew was not all that to begin with does not merit his stay at the top.....

the same fedor who fought in a roided up pride fc, which had its suspicious fights??? where fighters were asked 2 take dives every now an then 2 make other fighters look good?

You're trying to talk down to things not being legit when you have Rickson in your avatar? LOL

:spam:

i've always viewed ufc above pride :thinking: where have u been the past year :rofl:
i also dont' recall anyone stating that Sylvia was the greatest striker 2 compete in the UFC.
im not really sure of that fight myself, was disappointed in sylvia tapping b4 the choke was locked all the ways in.
Fedor fighting people like hong man choi and matt lindland amongst other freak show fights is why he don't deserve the number 1 spot, his only decently ranked opponent in the past 2 years was tim sylvia and one win over one ranked opponent in 2 years shouldn't get him the top spot on any list.
if that were the case then yes brock should b up there ahead of Fedor with wins over Randy Couture and Heath Herring....but that would b foolish right :P
sorry if i came across as abrasive with these comments but i just dont' believe fedor deserves the top spot.

Edit- :lol1: yeah im not sure of Ricksons 400-0 record but he pretty much has the best BJJ out there :fing02:

i've always viewed ufc above pride :thinking: where have u been the past year :rofl:
i also dont' recall anyone stating that Sylvia was the greatest striker 2 compete in the UFC.
im not really sure of that fight myself, was disappointed in sylvia tapping b4 the choke was locked all the ways in.
Fedor fighting people like hong man choi and matt lindland amongst other freak show fights is why he don't deserve the number 1 spot, his only decently ranked opponent in the past 2 years was tim sylvia and one win over one ranked opponent in 2 years shouldn't get him the top spot on any list.
if that were the case then yes brock should b up there ahead of Fedor with wins over Randy Couture and Heath Herring....but that would b foolish right :P
sorry if i came across as abrasive with these comments but i just dont' believe fedor deserves the top spot.

Edit- :lol1: yeah im not sure of Ricksons 400-0 record but he pretty much has the best BJJ out there :fing02:

It's fine that you don't think he deserves the top spot, people have opinions. But to say Fedor has no reason to be #1 is absurd. The ONLY reason he doesn't have more top 10 wins is because none of the other top 10 HW's in Pride could get past Nog to fight Fedor. Everyone fought Nog to see if they deserved a fight with Fedor, and they all failed.

Fedor is a bad man and I too think he is the P4P king of MMA.

man u got an image of every response to your Fedor is God bs..........its very funny i give u that....ive all ive seen from gsp and silva this past year is dominate and make above average fighters look very normal....as for fedor just because he beat a former ufc heavyweight champ who we all knew was not all that to begin with does not merit his stay at the top.....

Know what else is funny? Your incompetence. "JUST BECAUSE he beat.." What the ****? JUST BECAUSE? You're basing his entire P4P status on one fight? I listed that one because I knew you could relate to it, since you're more than likely an average UFC fan that can't recollect PRIDE memories like some of us. And that's fine with me, but don't ever put JUST BECAUSE and Fedor in the same sentence. That's something you say about a fat redneck like Brock Lesnar, for example, "Okay, so JUST BECAUSE that fatass Brock Lesnar beat another fatass old guy means he's the champ? I want him to get rocked by Nogueira." to quote a friend of mine.

In layman's terms, please scroll back up the page and reread my previous post of his accomplishments or take a good look at his Wikipedia page. Honestly, you don't even know what you're talking about.


i've always viewed ufc above pride :thinking: where have u been the past year :rofl:
i also dont' recall anyone stating that Sylvia was the greatest striker 2 compete in the UFC.
im not really sure of that fight myself, was disappointed in sylvia tapping b4 the choke was locked all the ways in.
Fedor fighting people like hong man choi and matt lindland amongst other freak show fights is why he don't deserve the number 1 spot, his only decently ranked opponent in the past 2 years was tim sylvia and one win over one ranked opponent in 2 years shouldn't get him the top spot on any list.
if that were the case then yes brock should b up there ahead of Fedor with wins over Randy Couture and Heath Herring....but that would b foolish right :P
sorry if i came across as abrasive with these comments but i just dont' believe fedor deserves the top spot.

Edit- :lol1: yeah im not sure of Ricksons 400-0 record but he pretty much has the best BJJ out there :fing02:

Viewed it above PRIDE? That makes no sense, since during the PRIDE decade, UFC wasn't really anything other than a cage with a bunch of rednecks from Canada in it. And how could I compare them over the past year? PRIDE is gone and UFC is around now. I really don't understand your argument, comparing them would be like comparing The Romans to The United States. Two different times. However, it is my OPINION that between the two, PRIDE was the better organization when it came to fighting caliber, excitement and atmosphere. That's my OPINION, try not to get too offended. ='[

Sylvia tapped because he just nearly got knocked unconscious by the Top P4P fighter in the world and was getting his wind pipe crushed. It's what happens when you fight the best Mixed Martial Arts fighter of all time.

Choi Hong-man could wreck about 95% of the UFC Heavyweight division. Not only would they not allow him to fight because he is too big, but his credentials outweigh 90% of the Heavyweight division as well. Choi Hong-man makes play time out of Frank Mir, Brock Lesnar, Randy Couture, Cain Velasquez, Heath Herring, Andrei Arlovski and Tim Sylvia. Guarantee you this 100%. If you call Choi Hon-man a freakshow, you're an idiot. The guy is not only a professional K1 fighter, but he's a professional Ssireum wrestler. The guy is legit and has better fighting credentials than the UFC poster boy, Brock Lesnar. Fedor's last 2 fights were completely legit, and the last two fighters that he has fought would make easy work of many UFC Heavyweights, guaranteed. Again, your argument is void.

Your last statement is pure retardation. You're acting like Fedor has only had two fights against sup-par opponents. Don't compare this man to Brock Lesnar.

the hong man choi fight was another fight that confused me from japan....a decorated K-1 kickboxer who has a unimaginable reach on fedor took the fight 2 the ground where he had no chance of winning....hmm more outside influence in that fight???
and for the past year comment i meant that i've posted numerous times that i thought ufc was above pride.
not 2 many pride fighters have made a splash moving over 2 the cage, outside of rampage and nog....Shogun got worked over by Griffin, Henderson lost his belts 2 ufc fighters in his first 2 fights, herring got his ass kicked by a variety of oppononents, cro cop was whooped by napao and congo, chonans been gettin beat up in the 170 division.
why people think pride had the better fighters all these years i'll never understand.

the hong man choi fight was another fight that confused me from japan....a decorated K-1 kickboxer who has a unimaginable reach on fedor took the fight 2 the ground where he had no chance of winning....hmm more outside influence in that fight???
and for the past year comment i meant that i've posted numerous times that i thought ufc was above pride.
not 2 many pride fighters have made a splash moving over 2 the cage, outside of rampage and nog....Shogun got worked over by Griffin, Henderson lost his belts 2 ufc fighters in his first 2 fights, herring got his ass kicked by a variety of oppononents, cro cop was whooped by napao and congo, chonans been gettin beat up in the 170 division.
why people think pride had the better fighters all these years i'll never understand.

Choi didn't take the fight to the ground, Fedor stuffed him and pulled Choi on top of him. To add to that, Fedor got inside and landed a huge shot before the final takedown. Also, just a note: Choi Hong-man would have an WAY better chance on the ground with Fedor than Brock Lesnar would. There's no outside influences, this is MMA not the WWE. Are you the kind of person that makes excuses every time their favorite fighter loses?

Hahahaha, yeah. They didn't make a splash, they made a tidal wave. The highlights of Anderson Silva's career were made in PRIDE, the organization that gave him two of his legitimate losses. Now Anderson Silva is one of the poster boys of the UFC, right? How about Quinton Jackson? Knocks out an experienced Marvin Eastman and goes on to Knock out THE UFC poster boy, Chuck Liddell, then loses an extremely controversial decision to Forrest Griffin. The Dan Henderson argument is null and void, because he lost his two fights to who? Two former PRIDE Fighters in Anderson Silva and Quinton Jackson. Sheesh, thought you would have caught that one. Shogun Rua suffers a ruptured ACL during training for the Forrest Griffin fight and nearly goes the distance with nearly NO CARDIOVASCULAR TRAINING. What does that say about our paper champ now? Cro Cop is Cro Cop. Where he doesn't like fighting, he won't fight well. It's the way it is, get over it. Everyone realizes that he is past his prime and if he was in his prime that he could KO any top UFC Heavyweight with the exception of Nogueira. Oh, and speaking of Nogueira. Nogueira didn't make a splash? Stop making me LOL. The dude will be the Heavyweight Champion in 6 months. Wanderlei? Loses a controversial decision to Chuck Liddell, which is also hailed as one of the greatest UFC fights of all time, then goes on to KO Keith Jardine in 36 seconds, in which stunning the crowd because Jardine doesn't rise for quite some time? Now what happens? Dana White expects the next card to be a top seller and guess what, the main event features three former PRIDE competitors!

I can go on for days. You'll lose this argument 100% of the time.

No one is doubting all that Fedor has accomplished in his career.


Anderson has simply been more active, and dominant while doing it.



A win over Arlovski would definitely be cause for some type of shift in the rankings. But then again, they're pound for pound rankings, which are very subjective.

What division would you say is better stacked in talent, Fedor's Afflicition HW division or Anderson's UFC MW division?

Are you guy's basing the talent Fedor had beaten in Pride or just his recent bouts?

his fights in the past 2 years there palma :cool2: Silva and gsp have been more active fighting higher level fighters then Fedor has. so imo he don't deserve the top spot.

Ok, but you guys never answered the question about the more talented division (Fedor's HW Afflicition or Anderson's MW UFC)

his fights in the past 2 years there palma :cool2: Silva and gsp have been more active fighting higher level fighters then Fedor has. so imo he don't deserve the top spot.

I do not see that as being a fair and accurate assessment cause Fedor should not be docked for having an 'easy' 2 years. The man deserved a break cause he was competing in some big wars, bigger wars than GSP or Anderson has ever faced.

i don't really see whats so stacked about Afflictions division, the only fighters there that can fight with fedor an make a draw are Arlovski and Barnett, all the other heavyweights dont' stack up to those 2 fighters.
after those 2 fights Fedor don't have anyone 2 fight with unless Arlovski beats him an he gets a rematch with him at the end of the year at affliction 3 :P
if Affliction can last that long, and after that Fedor might as well sign a ufc contract 2 fight Brock, Cain,Carwin,Couture,Mir hell even Gonzaga and Kongo.
but he wont' sign with the ufc he'll either retire or fight for K-1 since it seems that Dream is goin down hill an dying off.
if GSP or Silva fought nothing but cans for 2 years i'd b in favor of them being dropped from their spots as well, imo if u wanna stay at the top of the rankings u gotta fight decent opponents.

i don't really see whats so stacked about Afflictions division, the only fighters there that can fight with fedor an make a draw are Arlovski and Barnett, all the other heavyweights dont' stack up to those 2 fighters.
after those 2 fights Fedor don't have anyone 2 fight with unless Arlovski beats him an he gets a rematch with him at the end of the year at affliction 3 :P
if Affliction can last that long, and after that Fedor might as well sign a ufc contract 2 fight Brock, Cain,Carwin,Couture,Mir hell even Gonzaga and Kongo.
but he wont' sign with the ufc he'll either retire or fight for K-1 since it seems that Dream is goin down hill an dying off.
if GSP or Silva fought nothing but cans for 2 years i'd b in favor of them being dropped from their spots as well, imo if u wanna stay at the top of the rankings u gotta fight decent opponents.

HAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAAHAHHA. How would THOSE fights put him ANYWHERE higher on the Top P4P list? You're contradicting yourself. I'd rather see him fight Choi again than any of these bums.

The only people left for Fedor to fight = AA and Barnett. If he defeats both of them? No one else is a challenge. He'll have defeated every top HW of his era.

by the time fedor's done fighting arlovski and barnett in Affliction it would have been the end of the year, dude do u ever stop an think b4 u post???
if he finishes them off in affliction then it would b 2010 b4 he could fight any of those guys, Carwin, Brock and Cane would have improved leaps an bounds.
.....get off fedors nuts an think a little bit.

by the time fedor's done fighting arlovski and barnett in Affliction it would have been the end of the year, dude do u ever stop an think b4 u post???
if he finishes them off in affliction then it would b 2010 b4 he could fight any of those guys, Carwin, Brock and Cane would have improved leaps an bounds.
.....get off fedors nuts an think a little bit.

If you're directing that at me,awesome. They will never be on Fedor's level, I promise you this.

good to see Torres up there but personally put him higher than Nog. Miguel is one awesome talented fighter.

:lol1: yeah that post was for u move bricks :lol1:
i've enjoyed this thread :cool2: haven't posted this much since the old kimbo threads when some people thought he'd actually be a good fighter.
ufc 92 is 8 days away time 2 get goin on my ufc fantasy picks i haven't broken in the top 100 in the past few months :purity:
this pay per view has a bunch of easy picks though so should b great.

:lol1: yeah that post was for u move bricks :lol1:
i've enjoyed this thread :cool2: haven't posted this much since the old kimbo threads when some people thought he'd actually be a good fighter.
ufc 92 is 8 days away time 2 get goin on my ufc fantasy picks i haven't broken in the top 100 in the past few months :purity:
this pay per view has a bunch of easy picks though so should b great.

Yeah, I got my money on Wanderlei. ;]