Ever pushed yourself to the limit in training? You know, the point where your body doesn't want to continue but your mind is still at it?

I do it once in a while in training, simply to test my will and endurance.

Tonight was one of those night. I just came back from the gym.

Arrived at the gym and one of the trainer told me: "We're working together all might long'' I just smiled and replied "You can't hang all night with me old man."

I warmed up, skipped rope for a round wrapped my hands up and we started for 6 rounds of pad work. I knew he couldn't hang with me, after 4 rounds he wanted to stop because his hands were getting sore. :fing02:

Then he made me work the bag while coaching me and telling me what to throw. He made me throw over 80 punches a round, thats a lot for a heavyweight. I expected him to make me do my usual 6-8 rounds on the heavy bag but he had 12 in mind. Honestly after the 9th round i was exhausted but i kept going. At the end my t-shirt was completly soaked.

Just when i was walking to the locker room he shouted "Hey! Did you run today?" With his old fart grin. I said "No."(I couldn't really run, he had a huge snowstorm around here, snow almost to my knees.)

He made me get on the stationary bike for 30 minutes. :poke:

Now i just came back home, took a shower and here i am. My shoulders fists and forearms hurt, my legs are tired and i'm exhausted but i have never felt better.

Now i'm going to eat something and watch a movie.

What about you guys? Ever kill yourself training? In my case it just motivates me to train harder all the time.

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There was a period where I pushed it to the limit every session. Then 1 day I ****ed my hand on my coaches head. Havnt been able to push it to the limit since then.

i try to push myself through that barrier every night.

yesterday and today we had to do 6 rounds of heavy bag work non stop power punches, through bells and everything.. thats roughly 20 mins of hitting the bag. we were partnered up 2 on each bag, alternate every 30 secs and holding the bag for the person wasnt easy either, had to simulate a real person so person holding bag had to work too... yesterday was worse tho, we had to run prior to that with medicine balls, and do suicides with them. today wasnt that bad. along with the usuals... rope, shadow, ab work...etc i feel pretty rough right now too but good at the same time.

this has nothing to do with boxing but i played a 3 day hockey tourney with the stomach flu, that was pretty hard

I try to push it to the limit everyday as well

I don't think we have the same definition of "limit".

I mean, training to the point where you have no energy left, when you can barely keep your hands up.

If you guys train like that every single day. Sorry to say but that's not good for you. Over training in general is more bad than beneficial.

That's why i only do it once in a while.

only once when i had just came back from a 2 month break,.
believe it or not i fainted!

I don't think we have the same definition of "limit".

I mean, training to the point where you have no energy left, when you can barely keep your hands up.

If you guys train like that every single day. Sorry to say but that's not good for you. Over training in general is more bad than beneficial.

That's why i only do it once in a while.

I've done two days on water . One time I ran 6 miles came back in and done strength and conditionig that night . I threw up water all over my carpet shadowboxing :boxing: It was intense.

I don't think we have the same definition of "limit".

I mean, training to the point where you have no energy left, when you can barely keep your hands up.

If you guys train like that every single day. Sorry to say but that's not good for you. Over training in general is more bad than beneficial.

That's why i only do it once in a while.

Sorry, but that is not overtraining. Overtraining is not something you do in a single training session, it is a physical state that is accumulated over several months.

I do agree, that doing what you did shouldn't be done every night. Depending on your work capacity and level of athleticism, it can easily be done 3-4 times a week though, and everyday (or even 2-3 times a day) for shorter periods (training camps etc.).

Ya gotta push yourself. That's the entire point. Red line it. But ya gotta learn how to rest too. I'm just learning about resting.

Remember: There's always someone out there training harder than you.

I've trained a number of times to a point of actually throwing up or being super light headed. I doubt its of much benefit.

Continuously beating your times in timed runs to maximum effort, or doing pressups or situps to failure ( when you cant do one more without collapse )is hitting the limit. Or doing squatting star jumps in circuit training to a point when your legs are too rubbery to even leave the ground when you try to jump and when you stop the room spins like your pissed is hitting the limit.

You know you've really hit it when afterwards you feel physically drained, sick, no energy to even watch a movie and you dont feel great at all.

I dont recommend the above, it probably saps the desire to repeat intense training and leaves the body in calorie deficit. Good training is gradual improvement in a number of disciplines that can be measured over time, you should want to improve your performance, not wipe yourself out!

While pushing yourself to the limit is important, especially in a sport like boxing, it has to be done in moderation. Like PunchDrunk mentioned, there are physical repercussions to training, but, on top of that, the mental aspects can be even more debilitating.

If you train to the point of throwing up or feeling lightheaded, you'll begin to associate your training with that, and, after a while, your psyche will just try to do everything it can to prevent you from doing that kind of training. After that, you simply start losing motivation for the sport, and might even grow wary of going to training because you know you don't enjoy it anymore.

I don't care what you might say, but training until you want to throw up or feel completely lightheaded cannot in any way be enjoyable to normal people.

That being said, there definitely have to be days of training where you completely bust your balls to the floor. Just have to be smart about how many days of those you have.

man this guy @ my gym was in the SFA, and he said they were broken down mentally and physically everyday. he said it was the only way they could face the real thing out in the field. he says boxing is similar. of course being part of the armed forces is different then being inside the ring but as far as training i have to agree with him. as long as you push your self to the limit, eat right, rest well, and consume the necessary vitamins, i think you'll be alright. i mean, its the only way to find out what your capable of mentally and physically.

I think you really gotta know your body when you do hard rigorous training.
Most of it is mental, in my opinion.

The best time to push yourself is when you're tired. It's not how you start, it's how you finish.

Throwing up is a good sign of red lining it. It's worse to have red eyes than throwing up though. Just stay hydrated and make sure you have calories to burn.

Sorry, but that is not overtraining. Overtraining is not something you do in a single training session, it is a physical state that is accumulated over several months.



Thats what i meant. If i trained like this every night, wouldn't it become over training?

i raped a chick once and pushed her lawyer to his limits.:hitit:

Every once in a while ill do that, usually it involves alot of running and leg/core work

Sorry, but that is not overtraining. Overtraining is not something you do in a single training session, it is a physical state that is accumulated over several months.

I do agree, that doing what you did shouldn't be done every night. Depending on your work capacity and level of athleticism, it can easily be done 3-4 times a week though, and everyday (or even 2-3 times a day) for shorter periods (training camps etc.).

Wrong. Overtraining can be accumulated in a matter of days, not several months...say you have no rest breaks throughout the week....and you're training you're ass off every single day....that can be considered overtraining...as you're not giving your muscles enough rest to recuperate and rebuild lost tissue

You wonder how Ricky Hatton must feel having to lose nearly 3 stones .That must take alot out of him . It's defintley got to be a waste of energy for training in training camps.

Wrong. Overtraining can be accumulated in a matter of days, not several months...say you have no rest breaks throughout the week....and you're training you're ass off every single day....that can be considered overtraining...as you're not giving your muscles enough rest to recuperate and rebuild lost tissue

No, you're wrong. What you're talking about is called over reaching, not over training. Over training takes months to achieve, and consequently, can take months to recover from. A week of overdoing it can be recovered from within days, hence it is over reaching.

No, you're wrong. What you're talking about is called over reaching, not over training. Over training takes months to achieve, and consequently, can take months to recover from. A week of overdoing it can be recovered from within days, hence it is over reaching.

Wtf... I just finished taking a couple of sport science courses...and my SPSC coach never talked about the difference between overtraining/overreaching.... I mean....the term Overtraining is generally used amongst bodybuilders or those involved with sports...i've never heard the term Overreaching to be honest.. but i'll take it as it is.

http://www.active.com/triathlon/Articles/How_to_Tell_When_You_re_Over-reaching_or_Over-training.htm

http://www.training4cyclists.com/overreaching-is-not-equal-to-overtraining/

I did that everyday until it became easy for me! When you are that fit do NOT stop ever, or you will have to go through the pain of builing up your fitness again. It feels good to be superfit and to stay that way.