Im mexican and have always respected/like pacquiao and i was rooting for him saturday although i thought manny had no chance, I also think there is more where this came from. Something fishy happened in that ring. From the weigh in to the way oscar fought. Anyways congrats on the win pac is a good guy!! He's come a long way I'm glad he can show that you can come from no where and make it. He gives not only you guys motivation but me as well. Mexicans and Filipino's come from the same type of poverty stricken countries where family, respect, and hard work come before anything. He truly seems like a gentlemen and I hope he gives alot of money to his people back home.

Welcome to the pinoy lounge! Conspiracies and other doubts about the legitimacy of the fight is also being talked about in Philboxing (Pacland).
I personally don't think there is any...........the fight is just too big and Oscar's name is too legendary for him to **** this one up.

I tried re-watching the fight and from the get go I can see that Oscar was conserving his energy. He had a 12 round plan. But things weren't working out when Pac was connecting his punches. Oscar had to retaliate, he did, which is one of the reason why Oscar gassed out. JMHO.

boss chups, ind giving us here some light on that gossip.. about that conspiracy thing.

boss chups, ind giving us here some light on that gossip.. about that conspiracy thing.

that conspiracy talk is complete bull****.

for oscar to throw the fight there has to be something in it for him.

what does he get out of throwing the fight?

money? oscar would've made more money if he had won and fought hatton.

he has his legacy to think of.

a la verge welcome to the pinoy lounge...

i dont believe on that conspiracy theory at all, Oscar and his team made a mistake, from the weight-in a day before to the fight night weight, nobody in his right mind would throw a fight in that manner ...

There was no conspiracy period.

No fighter would ever lay his health on the line, much less, the kind of beating Oscar took from Manny. If that was some sort of conspiracy, Oscar would have just laid on the mat in the 3rd round and go home immediately, not to the hospital.

Oscar would not taint his legacy and the name of Golden Boy.

that conspiracy talk is complete bull****.

for oscar to throw the fight there has to be something in it for him.

what does he get out of throwing the fight?

money? oscar would've made more money if he had won and fought hatton.

he has his legacy to think of.

There was no conspiracy period.

No fighter would ever lay his health on the line, much less, the kind of beating Oscar took from Manny. If that was some sort of conspiracy, Oscar would have just laid on the mat in the 3rd round and go home immediately, not to the hospital.

Oscar would not taint his legacy and the name of Golden Boy.

how long you guys been around this sport? Oscar has NEVER given a **** about what people think....NEVER!!! He has gone back on his words plenty of times! He says whatever it takes to fool people.

Left Hook Tua-Do you remember when Manny made his comback fight after floyd and looked horrible in it. Oscar said he is simply to big for hatton and a fight between them wouldn't make sense. and that's very true! hatton couldn't even handle collazo or floyd. Both non-big punchers yet he was out on his feet in one fight and knocked out in the other. Hatton is a cash cow!! And since he is hatton's promoter and he will not fight him because a knock out is the only legitimate outcome that can happen from that fight. So he brings up paquiao and the whole promotion was all about manny having a chance! This was such a big miss match that they focused on promoting the fight to give manny a chance in the fight since most people weren't buying this match up. oscar threw this damn fight! If he knocks manny out he gets non stop critizism from the media and fans and they would be calling for him to fight margarito next. But margarito isn't in the plans hatton is. So de la hoya did what he did in that ring to give this impression that paquiao is this type of god in the ring and NOW a pacman vs hitman fight is even bigger than it would have been before!! Waaay bigger!! Paquaio is known all over the states now to casuals that what the oscar fight did for him. Now they're going to promote this pac vs hatton fight and use this dlh fight alot in the promotion. Golden boy will be the promoters in this fight. GBP and toprank have teamed up and made some nice money together lately ex; just to name a few: pac vs barerra, pac vs jmm, pac vs diaz, pavlik vs hopkins, margarito vs mosley. It's all a damn business and if you know your history it is a dirty business full of lies and set ups at times!! Do you really think oscar beat sturm?? oscar even admited he lost! but they gave him the fight because oscar vs bernard had to be made. I'm telling you since the fight was signed there was fishy ****, fishy headlines, fishy reports all to make paquiao seem he had a chance and was going to win. The weigh in was fishy lmao! and the fight was fishy! The fighters sitting down on stools at the weigh in and manny facing off with shoes on was another slap in the face to us fans and another ploy to make the match up seem more fetchable. Then oscar goes in and fights the way he did! he can't be that washed when just 5 months ago he was swinging full force just a few pounds above 147 trying to knock forbes out. Don't be so gullible man! Pac vs hatton was going to be made!!! It's a mega fight and they used pac vs dlh as the first step in promoting this fight and making yet another 50 million dollars of of it. Don't forget Oscar is a promoter and he will make more money promoting a fight than fighting in it. Just something to think about! boxing has a long history of dirty business

how long you guys been around this sport? Oscar has NEVER given a **** about what people think....NEVER!!! He has gone back on his words plenty of times! He says whatever it takes to fool people.

Left Hook Tua-Do you remember when Manny made his comback fight after floyd and looked horrible in it. Oscar said he is simply to big for hatton and a fight between them wouldn't make sense. and that's very true! hatton couldn't even handle collazo or floyd. Both non-big punchers yet he was out on his feet in one fight and knocked out in the other. Hatton is a cash cow!! And since he is hatton's promoter and he will not fight him because a knock out is the only legitimate outcome that can happen from that fight. So he brings up paquiao and the whole promotion was all about manny having a chance! This was such a big miss match that they focused on promoting the fight to give manny a chance in the fight since most people weren't buying this match up. oscar threw this damn fight! If he knocks manny out he gets non stop critizism from the media and fans and they would be calling for him to fight margarito next. But margarito isn't in the plans hatton is. So de la hoya did what he did in that ring to give this impression that paquiao is this type of god in the ring and NOW a pacman vs hitman fight is even bigger than it would have been before!! Waaay bigger!! Paquaio is known all over the states now to casuals that what the oscar fight did for him. Now they're going to promote this pac vs hatton fight and use this dlh fight alot in the promotion. Golden boy will be the promoters in this fight. GBP and toprank have teamed up and made some nice money together lately ex; just to name a few: pac vs barerra, pac vs jmm, pac vs diaz, pavlik vs hopkins, margarito vs mosley. It's all a damn business and if you know your history it is a dirty business full of lies and set ups at times!! Do you really think oscar beat sturm?? oscar even admited he lost! but they gave him the fight because oscar vs bernard had to be made. I'm telling you since the fight was signed there was fishy ****, fishy headlines, fishy reports all to make paquiao seem he had a chance and was going to win. The weigh in was fishy lmao! and the fight was fishy! The fighters sitting down on stools at the weigh in and manny facing off with shoes on was another slap in the face to us fans and another ploy to make the match up seem more fetchable. Then oscar goes in and fights the way he did! he can't be that washed when just 5 months ago he was swinging full force just a few pounds above 147 trying to knock forbes out. Don't be so gullible man! Pac vs hatton was going to be made!!! It's a mega fight and they used pac vs dlh as the first step in promoting this fight and making yet another 50 million dollars of of it. Don't forget Oscar is a promoter and he will make more money promoting a fight than fighting in it. Just something to think about! boxing has a long history of dirty business

no.

oscar is shot. that's why he lost.

there's no conspiracy.

no.

oscar is shot. that's why he lost.

there's no conspiracy.

lol ok dude if that's what you want to believe that's your choice!

lol ok dude if that's what you want to believe that's your choice!

you're so crazy , rogelio. lol

lol ok dude if that's what you want to believe that's your choice!

quick tell me, which would be bigger. oscar-ricky or pac-ricky? there goes your conspiracy theory down the drain.

Hey, do you have a headache? are you dizzy? :D

This guy is so f*ckin STUPID!
Go take pictures, phag! hahahahah

no.

oscar is shot. that's why he lost.

there's no conspiracy.

Yeah! that is what I heard too...all the guys that Pacman beat are shot guys...
Ledwahba was shot when he was beaten, Barrera was shot, Morales was shot..JMM was shot...Solis was shot....Oskee was shot..who else??? .. and maybe Hatton too-its a maybe, but PBF is definitely shot already....

how long you guys been around this sport? Oscar has NEVER given a **** about what people think....NEVER!!! He has gone back on his words plenty of times! He says whatever it takes to fool people.


I only started watching boxing last year. :D

Oscar needs to care about what people think because that's his business. He wouldn't be as popular he hadn't. The reason why Nacho had to stop the fight is to preserve Golden Boy's legacy. We wouldn't want to see his ass get KOed by a midget.

quick tell me, which would be bigger. oscar-ricky or pac-ricky? there goes your conspiracy theory down the drain.

you're an idiot! dlh would never fight hatton hatton is too small he can't even handle a collazo or floyd at 147 and dlh isn't going to 140. Quick tell me who works harder for a fight promoters or the acutal boxer? (boxer) Quck tell me who makes more money the fighter or promoter? (promoter) Quck tell me who will be promoting pac vs hatton? yup you guessed it oscar and golden boy promotions! try looking outside the box for once eh?

you're an idiot! dlh would never fight hatton hatton is too small he can't even handle a collazo or floyd at 147 and dlh isn't going to 140. Quick tell me who works harder for a fight promoters or the acutal boxer? (boxer) Quck tell me who makes more money the fighter or promoter? (promoter) Quck tell me who will be promoting pac vs hatton? yup you guessed it oscar and golden boy promotions! try looking outside the box for once eh?

When did you start watching boxing?

Hatton is taller and heavier than Pacman when DLH agreed to fight him. Pacman is 5' 6 1/2" while Hatton is 5' 7 1/2", Pacman is lightweight when DLH agreed to fight him while Hatton had been in the light welterweight when Pacman was still fighting at super featherweight.

DLH may never fight Hatton but it must be for some other reasons not beacause Hatton is too small.

When did you start watching boxing?

Hatton is taller and heavier than Pacman when DLH agreed to fight him. Pacman is 5' 6 1/2" while Hatton is 5' 7 1/2", Pacman is lightweight when DLH agreed to fight him while Hatton had been in the light welterweight when Pacman was still fighting at super featherweight.

DLH may never fight Hatton but it must be for some other reasons not beacause Hatton is too small.

actually,pacquiao is bigger than hatton.

hatton is 5'6
pacquiao is 5'6 1/2

When did you start watching boxing?

Hatton is taller and heavier than Pacman when DLH agreed to fight him. Pacman is 5' 6 1/2" while Hatton is 5' 7 1/2", Pacman is lightweight when DLH agreed to fight him while Hatton had been in the light welterweight when Pacman was still fighting at super featherweight.

DLH may never fight Hatton but it must be for some other reasons not beacause Hatton is too small.

that's why all this is a joke! You must have missed oscars interview after hattons comeback fight he said he would never fight hatton because he is too small and it wouldn't make sense and he goes and fights paquiao and gets his ass kicked. Now what do you know we have a mega fight between pac and hatton with dlh promoting it. It would be a major fraud for dlh to fight hatton after we seen what collazo and floyd did to him at 147 don't you think? so He's trying to justify a hatton vs pacquiao fight and used this fight to propel manny into the spotlight of casuals! It's all bull **** man! it's fuken oscar doing what he does best and that's being a hypocrite, a liar, and make money of off it. Just like he said he would never fight chavez and he did, just like he said he would never fight vargas and he did (both times using i dont' want to fight another mexican excuse only to fight them after chavez was old and vargas got beat by tito) then he said he wouldn't fight cotto because he's puerto rican, only to be a hypocrite again and say yes i will fight cotto, i will fight the best and the winner between marg and cotto will be the best, only to change his mind again and not fight the winner and focus on justifying a fight vs pacquiao. If he knocks pac out he gets non stop **** from fans and the media. Then what's left for him? Now he's going to be promoting a mega fight between pac and hatton and i bet he makes close to 50 million promoting that fight.

Yeah! that is what I heard too...all the guys that Pacman beat are shot guys...
Ledwahba was shot when he was beaten, Barrera was shot, Morales was shot..JMM was shot...Solis was shot....Oskee was shot..who else??? .. and maybe Hatton too-its a maybe, but PBF is definitely shot already....

come on ispayder. i love pac too but no way pac beats oscar in his prime. not that oscar was better or greater but because of his size.

i picked pac to win against a weightdrained or shot oscar.

now ledwaba was in his prime , barrera was prime in the 1st fight , jmm is still in his prime , morales was past prime in the 2nd but shot in the 3rd.

not everything is black and white. there are always some gray areas.

ano meron dito?

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ano meron dito?

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pahiram manong?

puwede ko post sa limey lang? :)

ayos lang manang :D

ayos lang manang :D

hindi ayos , manong.

kings ni chups is up 11 on the lakers. wtf? :nonono:

haba ng litanya ni rogelio (sya bayan?)

lefty rep me up kumag !

im also on the fishy side of that fight there too. it think oscar threw that fight...but its ok pacman will get more $$$ in hatton and mayweather or any name now...

actually,pacquiao is bigger than hatton.

hatton is 5'6
pacquiao is 5'6 1/2

Check boxrec.com and look at Hatton's official height then come back in this thread tell me if I am lying.

come on ispayder. i love pac too but no way pac beats oscar in his prime. not that oscar was better or greater but because of his size.

i picked pac to win against a weightdrained or shot oscar.

now ledwaba was in his prime , barrera was prime in the 1st fight , jmm is still in his prime , morales was past prime in the 2nd but shot in the 3rd.

not everything is black and white. there are always some gray areas.

Exactly! But that is the way some fans see it. What they could'nt see or refuse to see is that Pacman made them look so bad, and old, and shot etc...that even if Pacman whipped PBF's ass, they would also say PBF is shot...

actually,pacquiao is bigger than hatton.

hatton is 5'6
pacquiao is 5'6 1/2

pac is not bigger.

maybe taller by a bit or the same height that's about it.

hatton is definitely the bigger man. he walks around at 180.

pac is not bigger.

maybe taller by a bit or the same height that's about it.

hatton is definitely the bigger man. he walks around at 180.The untold story is that Hatton is actually a Samoan albino.

The untold story is that Hatton is actually a Samoan albino.

poor ricky.

i really like him.

oh well......he's had a good career , he's made plenty of money and at least we can say he took on the best unlike that other brit fighter , WELSH loser.

it'll be payback for my beloved kostya.

pac tko9 over hatton!!!!! :dance: