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Oh please

He won the fight fair and square. Fact is he busted Vitali up so bad with his fist he could not continue. That fight goes two more rounds Vitali's eye would have popped out of the damn socket.

Vitali had a golden oppertunity in from of him. Vitali fought a fat, old and out of shape Lewis and STILL got beaten.

This is one thing that kills me about boxing fans. We beg and cry for Evander to get out because he's clearly hurting himself, yet Lewis walks away on top and he gets critasized too. I mean what is it?

Lewis is 39 years old, has all his brain cells, all his money, a new family and is kicking back on a beach in Jamcia right now. He noticed his heart wasn't in it anymore and walked away on top.

Good for Lennox

It does not surprise me Lennox Lewis stays retired. Vitali is very good. There are other fighters that are very good too, like Toney.

It does not surprise me Lennox Lewis stays retired. Vitali is very good. There are other fighters that are very good too, like Toney.


are you a Vitali fan?

Oh please
This is one thing that kills me about boxing fans. We beg and cry for Evander to get out because he's clearly hurting himself, yet Lewis walks away on top and he gets critasized too. I mean what is it?

Lewis is 39 years old, has all his brain cells, all his money, a new family and is kicking back on a beach in Jamcia right now. He noticed his heart wasn't in it anymore and walked away on top.

Good for Lennox
This happens in pretty much all sports.
We love to see our top guys stay in as long as they can.
Even if their skills are fading.
It's because we have gotten so used to seeing them and cheering for them.
If they go out on top we talk negatively about them and question their heart.
But we all know we'd rather see them go out on top and healthy than see them still in the game after their prime and mentally and physically unhealthy.
I'm not a Lewis fan but I'm glad that he's leaving with everything intact.

are you a Vitali fan?

Yes. I like Vitali. He is not afraid of fighting. Too many fighters recently are afraid of fighting the difficult fight. They care about themselves more than the sport and would rather find their glory the easiest way.

Oh please

He won the fight fair and square. Fact is he busted Vitali up so bad with his fist he could not continue. That fight goes two more rounds Vitali's eye would have popped out of the damn socket.

Vitali had a golden oppertunity in from of him. Vitali fought a fat, old and out of shape Lewis and STILL got beaten.

This is one thing that kills me about boxing fans. We beg and cry for Evander to get out because he's clearly hurting himself, yet Lewis walks away on top and he gets critasized too. I mean what is it?

Lewis is 39 years old, has all his brain cells, all his money, a new family and is kicking back on a beach in Jamcia right now. He noticed his heart wasn't in it anymore and walked away on top.

Good for Lennox

Very good post, you have saved me time even writing one for myself. It's good there are sensible boxing fans out their like you to keep things sane. How anyone can criticize Lennox for retiring while he was on top needs their heads checking. You got good karma. ;)

pathetic.
no further comment other than kudos to those here defending the Lion at least they appreciate what the man did for the sport.

Yes. I like Vitali. He is not afraid of fighting. Too many fighters recently are afraid of fighting the difficult fight. They care about themselves more than the sport and would rather find their glory the easiest way.

um...Didn't he quit against Byrd?

Oh please

He won the fight fair and square. Fact is he busted Vitali up so bad with his fist he could not continue. That fight goes two more rounds Vitali's eye would have popped out of the damn socket.

Vitali had a golden oppertunity in from of him. Vitali fought a fat, old and out of shape Lewis and STILL got beaten.

This is one thing that kills me about boxing fans. We beg and cry for Evander to get out because he's clearly hurting himself, yet Lewis walks away on top and he gets critasized too. I mean what is it?

Lewis is 39 years old, has all his brain cells, all his money, a new family and is kicking back on a beach in Jamcia right now. He noticed his heart wasn't in it anymore and walked away on top.

Good for Lennox

Dude, Lewis was getting his ass beat. And fight wouldn't go 2 more rounds because Lewis would NOT have made it through the next round. I like Lewis better than Vitali and the cut was worth stopping the fight, but come on, you act like Lewis was putting on a boxing lesson. Again, Lewis was getting his ass beat and he got lucky that Vitali got cut.
And because The Champ was getting his ASS BEAT, people are mad that there was no rematch. If Lewis was doing the ass whoopin, then no one would be upset about not rematching Vitali.

um...Didn't he quit against Byrd?

I know from your words you do not like Vitali. If Vitali is someone who avoids fighting, then his reign as champion will not last long. But if he is truly a fighter, I think he will be difficult to beat. History will tell us eventually how Vitali is.

to anyone taking the piss out of lewis....

he has stopped at the top of his game, which he needs respect for end of the day, you all slag holyfield off for carrying on, he's useless, the fact he maybe champ again one day soon is a sad one

lewis won the fight fair and square, it goes down as a W on his record

it doesnt say on a record 45/3/0 and then say beside it, but one of his fights was only won because his opponent cut his eye

Hey TheFairPole, sweet avitar.

to anyone saying that it was all over in the next two rounds against Vitali, I ask you to look at the fight again Lewis best round was the sixth and the 4th, he took those two rounds so he was coming back into it if you are using the judges scorecards as an indication as to who would have won. (Which is bollox
anyway check the result)

Finally I ask you before making such assumptions to check the tape for the uppercut 5 secs or so before the end of the 6th that lifting viali off the floor and made him sag on lewis shoulder.


Can you honestly say that he was gonna administer a beating in the next two rounds.

Come on.


Dont get me wrong I like Vitali but to predict a ko in the next two rounds for either fighter is pure folly in such an equally matched fight. :cool:


this being of course after lennox had undertrained as he was due to be in with Fat Kirk, and probably figured he wouldnt need more than 5. However thats not Vitali's fault and Lewis arrogance if indeed this is the case, could have caught him out in this regard, but it didnt cos Vitali was cut to ribbons so guess we will never find out. ;)

Dude, Lewis was getting his ass beat. And fight wouldn't go 2 more rounds because Lewis would NOT have made it through the next round. I like Lewis better than Vitali and the cut was worth stopping the fight, but come on, you act like Lewis was putting on a boxing lesson. Again, Lewis was getting his ass beat and he got lucky that Vitali got cut.
And because The Champ was getting his ASS BEAT, people are mad that there was no rematch. If Lewis was doing the ass whoopin, then no one would be upset about not rematching Vitali.

Vitali woulda got knocked T F O in the next few rounds had it continued, even an outa shape Lewis would have prevailed...

Oh please

He won the fight fair and square. Fact is he busted Vitali up so bad with his fist he could not continue. That fight goes two more rounds Vitali's eye would have popped out of the damn socket.

Vitali had a golden oppertunity in from of him. Vitali fought a fat, old and out of shape Lewis and STILL got beaten.

This is one thing that kills me about boxing fans. We beg and cry for Evander to get out because he's clearly hurting himself, yet Lewis walks away on top and he gets critasized too. I mean what is it?

Lewis is 39 years old, has all his brain cells, all his money, a new family and is kicking back on a beach in Jamcia right now. He noticed his heart wasn't in it anymore and walked away on top.

Good for Lennox

Word. Vitiali is pissing me off because he keeps calling out lennox. he lost and lennox won. fair and square. it may have been ugly, but lennox still won. even if lennox came back and vitiali won(which i dont think he would) it would do nothing for him. vitiali needs to get over it.

it's good they stopped tha fight cuz of vitalis eye
cuz that was a really bad cut and ya i dont wanna know what would happen if he kept fightin
but if that cut never happened vitali would;ve won

Lewis would have been knocked out...after all he fell over like a *** at a Liza Minelli concert after the 6th round. He was done. I just love how Lewis was told FIRST that the bout was being stopped, very classy. :rolleyes:

All you have to do is watch the very end of the 6th round... Watch when Lewis sits/colapses on his stool!!! Int the 6th round he burned himself out!!! He was done after that!!! He still put on a hell of a show... Both fighters did!!! And that is whY the fans want to see a rematch!!! That was one of the best heavyweight brawls in a long time!!! Give credit to both fighters!!! We probably won't see a fight like that in the heavies for a while!!!

Yes. I like Vitali. He is not afraid of fighting. Too many fighters recently are afraid of fighting the difficult fight. They care about themselves more than the sport and would rather find their glory the easiest way.

Just in case I'm getting the right impression here, Lewis IS NOT afraid of Vitali and he has nothing to do with his retirement. Every reason Jose listed above makes alot more sense than Lewis running scared. I refuse to believe that.

Just in case I'm getting the right impression here, Lewis IS NOT afraid of Vitali and he has nothing to do with his retirement. Every reason Jose listed above makes alot more sense than Lewis running scared. I refuse to believe that.

I am sorry Tracylee, but you got the wrong impression. How did you come up with "Lennox Lewis is not afraid of Vitali"? I was referring to all of the boxers who avoid big fights. I feel Vitali does not avoid big fights. Jose asked me if I like Vitali. I then said "yes", and explained why I like Vitali. That is all.

Hey TheFairPole, sweet avitar.
Thanks!!! It is the Tarman Zombie from "Return of the Living Dead"

All you have to do is watch the very end of the 6th round... Watch when Lewis sits/colapses on his stool!!! Int the 6th round he burned himself out!!! He was done after that!!! He still put on a hell of a show... Both fighters did!!! And that is whY the fans want to see a rematch!!! That was one of the best heavyweight brawls in a long time!!! Give credit to both fighters!!! We probably won't see a fight like that in the heavies for a while!!!

It was a even fight i agree but Lennox's punches had abit more in them than Vitali's did. I enjoyed watching it, i was shocked that it was actually happening. All the build up was worth it. I respect Lennox's decision for retiring, he had achieved everything he needed to in his career. Vitali seemed to think he needed Lennox bad but he will have his own fights and maybe his own sucessful legacy.
:D I also forgot to add that the fight was even and it was a out of shape Lennox so technically if he would have been in shape we MAY have seen a different fight. Either way it was definatly the biggest fight out there.

I am sorry Tracylee, but you got the wrong impression. How did you come up with "Lennox Lewis is not afraid of Vitali"? I was referring to all of the boxers who avoid big fights. I feel Vitali does not avoid big fights. Jose asked me if I like Vitali. I then said "yes", and explained why I like Vitali. That is all.

No problem (and there wouldnt be a "problem" even if you had meant that ; I just would have to disagree :D ). It just seem's like all of Vitali's fan's keep implying that the only reason Lewis retired is cause he's afraid of Vitali. I wasnt sure if that was what you meant or not, that's why I asked, more or less :)

Tracylee, thank you for everything, the good Karma and kind words. I sent you good Karma too.

Tracylee, thank you for everything, the good Karma and kind words. I sent you good Karma too.

Thank you and youre welcome :)

Ain't that just about true of all abused dogs & women..... :rolleyes:

It was a even fight i agree but Lennox's punches had abit more in them than Vitali's did. I enjoyed watching it, i was shocked that it was actually happening. All the build up was worth it. I respect Lennox's decision for retiring, he had achieved everything he needed to in his career. Vitali seemed to think he needed Lennox bad but he will have his own fights and maybe his own sucessful legacy.
:D I also forgot to add that the fight was even and it was a out of shape Lennox so technically if he would have been in shape we MAY have seen a different fight. Either way it was definatly the biggest fight out there.

The fight wasn't even. Vitali was ahead, quit fooling your self by your biases. But like you said, Vitali needed Lennox to get his claim to fame. Now that Lennox is retired, there are no big fights for Vitali unless he fights his brother or Roy, but that ain't going to happen.
If it was an out of shape Lennox or not, it doesn't matter. In boxing it is about being in top condition every fight.
Technically you could say...
...if Vitali came in better shape he could have KO'd Lewis in 1.
...if DLH trained taking punches to the body, he may have came out on top.
...if Roy Jones' glove was an inch forward, he would have beat Tarver.
...if I got the best trainers and everything, I would be the one to knock off Hopkins.

However, it was a good fight none the less, but i didn't proved who was better that night. But it did prove that Lewis does not have a glass jaw like most people think.

VITALI OWNS!.... NUFF SAID!

sucker should of fought Klitschko

The fight wasn't even. Vitali was ahead, quit fooling your self by your biases. But like you said, Vitali needed Lennox to get his claim to fame. Now that Lennox is retired, there are no big fights for Vitali unless he fights his brother or Roy, but that ain't going to happen.
If it was an out of shape Lennox or not, it doesn't matter. In boxing it is about being in top condition every fight.
Technically you could say...
...if Vitali came in better shape he could have KO'd Lewis in 1.
...if DLH trained taking punches to the body, he may have came out on top.
...if Roy Jones' glove was an inch forward, he would have beat Tarver.
...if I got the best trainers and everything, I would be the one to knock off Hopkins.

However, it was a good fight none the less, but i didn't proved who was better that night. But it did prove that Lewis does not have a glass jaw like most people think.

lol your a typical Vitali fan, you say the same things over an over again, he was kicking lewis ass, he would have been knocked out in the next round, if lewis was getting his ass kicked so bad why wasnt his face busted up, or even knocked down in the fight, Vitali had the worst cut Ive ever seen on a boxer and it was rightfully stopped, I thought lewis was coming on in the 5th and 6th, if it went one more round the fight still would of been stopped.

I wish there would have been a rematch, but if his heart wasn't in it what's the point? He had been saying he was ready to retire for a while anyway. I personally thought he should have rematched Mercer right after their fight, but it didn't happen so......

people still using the lewis was out of shape thats why he was losing excuse? how about vitali is just a bad style match up for him and might actually be better head to head. did peter come in out of shape too? as for when the fight was stopped vitali ran around the ring jumping on the ropes going nuts screaming while lennox meekly raised his arm in "victory" and couldn't barely move off his stool. i would give a large edge to the gun ho crazy man with lots of energy left rather than a spent man who can barely breathe. what a way to end your career.

I wish there would have been a rematch, but if his heart wasn't in it what's the point? He had been saying he was ready to retire for a while anyway. I personally thought he should have rematched Mercer right after their fight, but it didn't happen so......

The Mercer match was a stepping stone to a title fight. Yes it was close, but there was no clamor for a re match nor was there much point.

people still using the lewis was out of shape thats why he was losing excuse? how about vitali is just a bad style match up for him and might actually be better head to head. did peter come in out of shape too? as for when the fight was stopped vitali ran around the ring jumping on the ropes going nuts screaming while lennox meekly raised his arm in "victory" and couldn't barely move off his stool. i would give a large edge to the gun ho crazy man with lots of energy left rather than a spent man who can barely breathe. what a way to end your career.

How about the fact he under trained, hadn't fought for 12 months and had been flirting with retirement since the Tyson fight?

As for bold text, what are you trying to say.that Vitali was the overall better fighter due to a post fight reaction? Retard.

Everyone knows Lewis was out of fvckin shape and Vitali was In-shape. Give me a focused, in-shape Lewis and he wins the damn rematch. Enough-said.

How about the fact he under trained, hadn't fought for 12 months and had been flirting with retirement since the Tyson fight?

As for bold text, what are you trying to say.that Vitali was the overall better fighter due to a post fight reaction? Retard.

you ****ing Klitschko hating *****

your boy Peter got :owned:

:lol1::lol1::lol1:

Oh please

He won the fight fair and square. Fact is he busted Vitali up so bad with his fist he could not continue. That fight goes two more rounds Vitali's eye would have popped out of the damn socket.

Vitali had a golden oppertunity in from of him. Vitali fought a fat, old and out of shape Lewis and STILL got beaten.

This is one thing that kills me about boxing fans. We beg and cry for Evander to get out because he's clearly hurting himself, yet Lewis walks away on top and he gets critasized too. I mean what is it?

Lewis is 39 years old, has all his brain cells, all his money, a new family and is kicking back on a beach in Jamcia right now. He noticed his heart wasn't in it anymore and walked away on top.

Good for Lennox

totally agree with you mate everything you've said is present and correct!

personally i think its something that US fans have aginst european fighters but thats just my opinion
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Oh please

He won the fight fair and square. Fact is he busted Vitali up so bad with his fist he could not continue. That fight goes two more rounds Vitali's eye would have popped out of the damn socket.

Vitali had a golden oppertunity in from of him. Vitali fought a fat, old and out of shape Lewis and STILL got beaten.

This is one thing that kills me about boxing fans. We beg and cry for Evander to get out because he's clearly hurting himself, yet Lewis walks away on top and he gets critasized too. I mean what is it?

Lewis is 39 years old, has all his brain cells, all his money, a new family and is kicking back on a beach in Jamcia right now. He noticed his heart wasn't in it anymore and walked away on top.

Good for Lennox

I support and agree with this.

you ****ing Klitschko hating *****

your boy Peter got :owned:

:lol1::lol1::lol1:

Look here, Peter was NO ONE'S boy, got that little nazi? No one was supporting him or really saying he would win. Everyone was kinda hoping Vitali kicked that bum out of boxing. Yes, bum, it was general common sense Peter was a bum before the fight, a rabbit punching bum, now one must wonder what you and your neo-nazi possy will make of him.