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whdempsey
11-07-2004, 10:27 PM
I pick Felix Trinidad. After all, he was away for more than two years, he stopped a guy who had never been down, and he was only one fight removed from the worst performance of his career.

Kostya deserves some consideration too for his win over Mitchell. He assserted his dominance more conclusively than in their fight, and he was coming back from an almost two year layoff. The difference to me is that he was always held in basically the same regard and wasn't coming back from a humbling loss. And he had previously stopped his opponent.

Glen Johnson deserves an honorable mention for winning an alphabet title and beating a Roy Jones.

ELPacman
11-07-2004, 11:04 PM
Oh your talking about Career comebacks. For a second I thought you were talking about actually in the ring. Nothing beats JMM getting up on 3 knockdowns in 1st rd. to get in range of winning the fight. THATS COURAGE and shows what boxing is all about!

Neuraxis
11-07-2004, 11:39 PM
I pick Felix Trinidad. After all, he was away for more than two years, he stopped a guy who had never been down, and he was only one fight removed from the worst performance of his career.

Kostya deserves some consideration too for his win over Mitchell. He assserted his dominance more conclusively than in their fight, and he was coming back from an almost two year layoff. The difference to me is that he was always held in basically the same regard and wasn't coming back from a humbling loss. And he had previously stopped his opponent.

Glen Johnson deserves an honorable mention for winning an alphabet title and beating a Roy Jones.

I would agree except for all of the dunces on this board and in the boxing community who thought that Mitchell would easily beat Tszyu. Just look at all of the bets placed against Tszyu and tell me that everyone held him in basically the same regard.

MetalVomit
11-07-2004, 11:42 PM
I would agree except for all of the dunces on this board and in the boxing community who thought that Mitchell would easily beat Tszyu. Just look at all of the bets placed against Tszyu and tell me that everyone held him in basically the same regard.

SO MANY people thought that Mitchell would beat Tszyu. I thought it was quite amusing. I sent you a message at myspace, I think I predicted a 7 round TKO win for Kostya. I dont know why i didnt place a bet. I was shocked to see so many doubters.

Neuraxis
11-07-2004, 11:50 PM
SO MANY people thought that Mitchell would beat Tszyu. I thought it was quite amusing. I sent you a message at myspace, I think I predicted a 7 round TKO win for Kostya. I dont know why i didnt place a bet. I was shocked to see so many doubters.

Yeah its really amazing. 39,201 points were bet on Mitchell and 9,325 was bet on Tszyu. And I remember Showtime talking about how pressrow had picked Mitchell over Tszyu with 40 something people going for Mitchell and 30 something people going for Tszyu.

MikeHunt
11-08-2004, 03:00 AM
There were no great comebacks in 2004.

neils7147933
11-08-2004, 03:52 AM
I pick Felix Trinidad. After all, he was away for more than two years, he stopped a guy who had never been down, and he was only one fight removed from the worst performance of his career.

Kostya deserves some consideration too for his win over Mitchell. He assserted his dominance more conclusively than in their fight, and he was coming back from an almost two year layoff. The difference to me is that he was always held in basically the same regard and wasn't coming back from a humbling loss. And he had previously stopped his opponent.

Glen Johnson deserves an honorable mention for winning an alphabet title and beating a Roy Jones.

Tszyu and Trinidad returned after long comebacks, yes, but it's too early to say that they are the comeback of the year.

There's still 2 fights that could change that - if Golota beats Ruiz then he's 1-0-1 against 2 heavyweight champs seven years or so removed from his last serious contentions. Also after the beating Marco Antonio Barrera took against Pacquaio, if he beats Morales it's him.

If they both lose, it's hard to name someone. You'd have to mention one of the two guys at the top.

guru
11-08-2004, 08:48 AM
i think tsyzu's win was more amazing than tito's.... only because mayo was the ideal oppoenent for tito, a brawler who would be right in front of him and getting into exchanges... where as mitchell was supposed to give tszyu alot of trouble...

jabsRstiff
11-08-2004, 08:54 AM
Neuraxis.....Godz


The reason)s) I picked against Tszyu was because of the very long layoff, & the fact that Mitchell's a very slick lefty who you must be very sharp against.

Tszyu amazed me with how sharp he was. He was unbelievably ON for a guy who's been out for so long.

IMO....Tszyu's performance is the best of the year.

I'm glad I was wrong, because Tszyu is a far better & more entertaining fighter than Sharmba Mitchell.

bigdlb12
11-08-2004, 11:36 AM
Tszyu beat his long waiting boxer nemesis Mitchell after a long layoff and living off of unemployment, lol

abdiel2k3
11-08-2004, 11:48 AM
tszyys comeback is easily far more impressive
1. tszyu came back to face a top guy in his own division - tito came back to a near the top smaller guy
2. tszyu was in complete control-tito showed to much respect for mayo
3. tszyu also had to over come injuries - tito just got fat
4. and obviously the fact that KT did it in 3 while it took Tito 8 or 9 im not sure but around there

abdiel2k3
11-08-2004, 11:50 AM
o was anyone else impressed how both guys rememebered to go to the body for each of their final knockdowns
i thought that was somethin specail
too many guys get caught up in the head bashing
while goin for the body a much easier target leaves them hurting longer

jabsRstiff
11-08-2004, 11:51 AM
Tszyu was facing a far more difficult to find & figure out fighter.

Trinidad was facing a far tougher & more dangerous foe.

I give the edge to Tszyu, because a layoff usually hurts your timing more than anything, & Tszyu was dead-on.

LuKahnLi
11-08-2004, 01:41 PM
Comeback of the Year.....Julio Diaz

Think about it, at the beginning of the year he had been written off. Now he is a title holder and a top 5 lightweight. Tons of people thought either Juaregui or Burton would get to him. Neither happened. He performed spectacularly in both matches.

stu
11-08-2004, 01:42 PM
I would have to give Kostya the edge over Tito as he came straight back in defending his title against the number 1 contender.

abdiel2k3
11-08-2004, 01:46 PM
Comeback of the Year.....Julio Diaz

Think about it, at the beginning of the year he had been written off. Now he is a title holder and a top 5 lightweight. Tons of people thought either Juaregui or Burton would get to him. Neither happened. He performed spectacularly in both matches.

your right
i hadnt thought of anyone other then the big name comebacks

Julio was great in both of those fights
i love that KO of burton
its great how he is left in the praying position
you can almost see him think
"what the hell? howd i get on my knees?"

whdempsey
11-08-2004, 02:18 PM
Comeback of the Year.....Julio Diaz

Think about it, at the beginning of the year he had been written off. Now he is a title holder and a top 5 lightweight. Tons of people thought either Juaregui or Burton would get to him. Neither happened. He performed spectacularly in both matches.
Yeh, but both Kostya and Felix beat name fighters. Diaz definitely made a big comeback, but he beat an unproven contender and an inconsistent titlist. Still, you bring a valid name.

whdempsey
11-08-2004, 02:19 PM
There were no great comebacks in 2004.
oh...right.

whdempsey
11-08-2004, 02:26 PM
I think the kneejerk reaction is to call Mayorga smaller than Tito, but I'm starting to doubt whether that's true. After all, Mayorga was just as likely to make 147 again as Tito was, and he had fought at junior middle in his last outing. What really made the difference in Trinidad's case is that Ricardo Mayorga could not have been more stylistically tailor-made. That is not true of Mitchell and Tzyu, and I think that's Tzyu's strongest argument for being Comeback of the Year.

Champoreeno
11-08-2004, 04:35 PM
Come on guys...If Barrera beats Morales then he's a shoe in for this. Of course that's abig if.

whdempsey
11-08-2004, 04:42 PM
Come on guys...If Barrera beats Morales then he's a shoe in for this. Of course that's abig if.
Well, yeh, of course. But I won't believe that Barerra beat Morales unless Erik is lying uncoscious in a pool of his own blood. I just don't believe Marco can do it.

abdiel2k3
11-08-2004, 04:47 PM
I think the kneejerk reaction is to call Mayorga smaller than Tito, but I'm starting to doubt whether that's true. After all, Mayorga was just as likely to make 147 again as Tito was, and he had fought at junior middle in his last outing. What really made the difference in Trinidad's case is that Ricardo Mayorga could not have been more stylistically tailor-made. That is not true of Mitchell and Tzyu, and I think that's Tzyu's strongest argument for being Comeback of the Year.

i was calling mayo smaller than tito b4 they fought
so what if he can carry the wieght
were talkin about being competitive
anyone can carry any weight
hell vargas was up to like 190 does that mean he can compete with fighters of that weight

whdempsey
11-08-2004, 11:38 PM
He beat a guy when he weighed 156. That was part of my point. Sure, Eric Mitchell wasn't a contender, but neither is nobody, which is exactly who Tito was fighting.

NAB
11-10-2004, 02:05 AM
Quality of opposition says Tszyu, but Trinidad hadn't been in the gym at all whereas Tszyu had been training both times until he got injured.

THRILLAinmanila
11-10-2004, 02:24 AM
I would say MAB is it, if he beats Morales.
I'd also go for Tszyu

tony
11-10-2004, 05:42 AM
I'd pick Trinidad. Tszyu comes a close second. The lay off would have affected Trinidad's style more than the search and destroy style of Tszyu. which is why he gets the nod.

Great
11-10-2004, 06:47 AM
Neuraxis.....Godz


The reason)s) I picked against Tszyu was because of the very long layoff, & the fact that Mitchell's a very slick lefty who you must be very sharp against.

Tszyu amazed me with how sharp he was. He was unbelievably ON for a guy who's been out for so long.

IMO....Tszyu's performance is the best of the year.

I'm glad I was wrong, because Tszyu is a far better & more entertaining fighter than Sharmba Mitchell.
In the future never doubt about Kostya. :)

Great
11-10-2004, 06:49 AM
Comeback of the Year - Felix, I think.

J !
11-10-2004, 08:04 AM
sorry to keep bringing this up DANNNY WILLIAMS

loses his British title in Jan to michael sprott comes back to beat tyson if he beats Vitali then undoubtedly the comeback of the year!

ill shut up about this now Im in danger of becoming a troll on this issue. :D

whdempsey
11-10-2004, 12:51 PM
sorry to keep bringing this up DANNNY WILLIAMS

loses his British title in Jan to michael sprott comes back to beat tyson if he beats Vitali then undoubtedly the comeback of the year!

ill shut up about this now Im in danger of becoming a troll on this issue. :D
I thought of mentioning Danny Williams, but as far as I'm concerned, both he and Barerra are only worthy of an honorable mention. Unless they both win their upcoming fights, it just wouldn't make sense to consider them over Tzyu or Felix.

The1God
11-10-2004, 02:08 PM
Wlad made a comeback and nobody mentioned that. LOL

Kostya was a comeback from injury not a loss. I consider a comeback is when you come out of retirement or a loss....

Tito has to be the hands down pick. Even if MAB beats Morales. That will be a close second.

GasPed
11-10-2004, 02:45 PM
Tito returned with a bang - his was the best comeback. And I agree, I never thought of Tszyu's fight as a comeback, more like a lengthy layoff. Having said that, he did silence a lot of doubters...

LeFtHooK24
11-10-2004, 04:37 PM
Everyone said Tszyu was the under dog but if u seen the previous Mitchell fights he just barely escaped each fight b4 fighting tszyu the 2nd time..i knew Tszyu would win Mitchell to me is over rated just like Tszyu.Until He Defeats Gatti or Mayweather in that fashion i'll be convinced a lil more.Best come back Trinidad till then

Mr. Ryan
11-10-2004, 05:49 PM
What about Golata?

whdempsey
11-12-2004, 05:48 PM
Everyone said Tszyu was the under dog but if u seen the previous Mitchell fights he just barely escaped each fight b4 fighting tszyu the 2nd time..i knew Tszyu would win Mitchell to me is over rated just like Tszyu.Until He Defeats Gatti or Mayweather in that fashion i'll be convinced a lil more.Best come back Trinidad till then
Why is this guy still allowed to post?

Mitchell beat Tackie in a near shutout. Mitchell even dropped him, which no one else has done.

He struggled with N'dou, it's true.

He dropped Michael Stewart en-route to another near shutout victory.

He iced Moises Pedroza in two rounds.

Exactly who did he have trouble with? Apart from N'dou, I mean, really, who was there?

I picked Tzyu too, and I don't think he deserved to be the underdog, but the fact of the matter is that he was.

And neither one is overrated! Tzyu has dominated 140lbs for about four years now. He posts a record of 16-1 with one no-contest in title fights and has knocked out 13 of those opponents. He hasn't lost in 7 years. And as for Mitchell, he's done a lot with what he has. He's never been unbeatable and yet the only losses he has came either at the hands of Koctya Tzyu or at lightweight, which was obviously not the place where he belonged. They're not overrated, you just don't know what you're talking about.

Finally, your writing is terrible. It literally makes no sense. I am only able to decipher what you mean after reading your posts three or four times.

That said, I agree, Felix Trinidad had the comeback of the year.

whdempsey
11-12-2004, 09:20 PM
What about Golata?
Interesting idea. I dunno. I guess part of it depends on whether he wins tomorrow.