View Full Version : Tszyu vs. Hatton...????


Mr. Untouchable
11-07-2004, 06:25 PM
After seeing Mitchell get easily destroyed by Tszyu, is there any chance we will ever see Hatton vs. Tszyu

neils7147933
11-07-2004, 07:18 PM
It's very likely. Tszyu came back against Mitchell so he wouldn't lose his belt. Hatton is ranked #1 IBF. So the fight will be mandatory before too long. We'll see if Gatti or Mayweather is an option, but those 3 and only those 3 make sense. He wants BIG fights he said. One would keep his belt, one is against one of the most recognizable guys in the division who is another champ, and the other is near the top of the p4p.

Cotto and Harris aren't big fights for Tszyu right now.

Nick54
11-07-2004, 07:50 PM
I hope so. I would love to see hatton catch an ass whippin. Not that i dont like him, i just dont like how over protected he is.

muay
11-07-2004, 08:12 PM
...only if Warren allows it. ;)

After Gatti beats Leija and somehow a PBF fight can't happen, I'd like to see him vs. KT next.

INFAMOUZ
11-07-2004, 08:26 PM
Hatton is not ready just yet,he needs a few more fights ,KT will loose to Mayweather,and just maybe KT/Cotto could fight for the belt after Floyed vacates it and moves on to 147.

INFAMOUZ
11-07-2004, 08:27 PM
Hatton hasn't had the experience to take on one of the greats in the division, if they fight he going to get punished. As for KT and Mayweather I think Tsyzu could beat him but he will have to throw more then just a straight right

muay
11-07-2004, 08:50 PM
KT-PBF

PBF could certainly outbox KT, but eventually he gets tagged by one of Kostya's precision punches...and down he goes. Remember Judah and Mitchell 1. ;)

Sir_Jose
11-07-2004, 08:55 PM
Warren would never let Hatton anywhere near Tszyu

ghostbear
11-07-2004, 08:59 PM
Hatton won't fight with Tszyu...but if he does Hatton gets KTFO!

The Noose
11-07-2004, 09:29 PM
I heard that Tszyu was quoted as saying Hatton's next.

strictlydope
11-07-2004, 09:51 PM
if it does happen i dont think hatton has the power to take out tzsyu

patto1984
11-07-2004, 10:03 PM
if you were httons trainer would you let him in with kostya after watching that fite or mawling, call it wat u will?

INFAMOUZ
11-07-2004, 10:36 PM
Hatton is a little scrapper,he throws a high amount of punches and relies on coutering his oppenent.
I dont see him standing up to the kind of punishment this type of fight would bring him.

Moon
11-07-2004, 11:34 PM
Hatton needs a Kostya or Pac or somebody, if he wants a real paycheque and some sort of legacy. Kostya has said he would sign that deal, if Showtime wants him there. So, what should we expect?

There's some real money to be made with Hatton-Kostya. I figure that seat prices at M.E.N. could triple and we'd still have no standing room. Kostya will go to wherever the fight is, but Showtime will need to sort that out. Let's hope Kostya stays healthy for a while longer (although that doesn't seem to matter much anyway) so we can see and talk about more than just Hatton.

My pick? Kostya, but not simply because of his demolition of Sharmba. It goes much deeper than that. Kostya-Hatton makes for a pretty good match, but Hatton is just not mentally tough enough to maintain a game plan when that bell rings and he gets that first taste of power. Hatton will show-up conditioned and will give all the Hattonites good reason to believe their man can take the fight to Kostya. But, in the end, the Pro-Hatton chants and all the supposed advantages of being at home, will be for nigh.

Kostya KO inside 6.

Boxerdog
11-08-2004, 12:05 AM
We are more likely to see Frank Warren vs. Godzilla.

INFAMOUZ
11-08-2004, 12:50 AM
Corrales would be a good fight I think KT has too much power. He would get Chico out of there in the late rounds.

Coto in maybe a year or so. He should definently step up in comp before he jumps in the deep water with KT.

Mayweather has a good chance. I think if he fights his fight he could pull off a UD. He would have to box all night, and not fall into a shotout like Sharmba did.

Hatton is possably a good match for KT. he seems pretty tuff, and he has some power of his own. To bad we will never see this happen. Frank Warren wouldn't let Hatton fight KT little brother.

I think KT will move up and fight Corey Spinks for his titles. Spinks will win because we know he won't fall in love with a slug fest he will box all night. I can't see KT winning that style of fight.

GasPed
11-08-2004, 02:06 AM
I don't think Frank Warren would want the fight but Ricky Hatton might (he longs for a "name" fight that will bring some long deserved global recognition). Having said that, I don't know how Hatton could possibly stand in with KT's power. He brings guts and effort to the party, but the party would be over real quick if Tszyu landed one of those bombs.

kinghit
11-08-2004, 03:35 AM
yes but money talks...

rudy
11-08-2004, 06:49 AM
It has to be Hatton next Gatti is lined up for Mayweather. Spinks will not happen as he fights Trindad. the IBF will not give him an extension.

Great
11-08-2004, 10:24 AM
Tszyu-Hatton
Why you such malicious? What for want death of Hatton? :)

pinkpanther
11-08-2004, 12:12 PM
Unlike all of the other people that have posted on this subject so far I have actually seen Hatton fight live on a number of occasions, I have also seen Mitchell fight live. I have always said that Mitchell was vastly overated and that Tyszu would beat him, however I maintain that Hatton would have also beaten Mitchell comfortably. The Tyszu V Hatton fight has the potential to be an absolute belter and don't be suprised if Hatton wins it.

elveiel
11-08-2004, 12:55 PM
Unlike all of the other people that have posted on this subject so far I have actually seen Hatton fight live on a number of occasions, I have also seen Mitchell fight live. I have always said that Mitchell was vastly overated and that Tyszu would beat him, however I maintain that Hatton would have also beaten Mitchell comfortably. The Tyszu V Hatton fight has the potential to be an absolute belter and don't be suprised if Hatton wins it.

I agree, i always agree with you when you talk about Hatton!! because you pick the fights on styles rather than the bull**** the press say!!

I'd love to see the Hatton vs Tszyu fight but they are my two favourite fighters and wouldnt want to see either lose!! But when it comes down to it, Hattons the fighter i want to win!

I fully believe Hatton DOES have the power to stop Tszyu, but Tszyu also has the power to stop Hatton. The styles make for a interesting fight and i'm 50/50 on the winner!

Tszyu gives Hatton respect, I'm pretty sure that Tszyu is confident about winning but i'm also pretty sure he knows it could turn it a very hard fight.

SonnyG8R
11-08-2004, 12:58 PM
I think Tszyu will knock Hatton on his ass. We shall see hopefully.

elveiel
11-08-2004, 12:58 PM
I think Tszyu will knock Hatton on his ass. We shall see hopefully.

Its very possible, Do you think Hatton will get up?

mic573
11-08-2004, 01:15 PM
I'm thinking Frank Warren doesn't want anything to do with Tszyu now. I for one was surprised Kostya was able to stop Mitchell that quick. Hatton's style could give Tszyu some problems with his workrate but his style also allows an accurate puncher like Tszyu to tag him with good shots. Hatton's chin has not really been tested but he admitted that Vince Phillips stunned him in thier fight and Tszyu hits harder than Phillips.

elveiel
11-08-2004, 01:23 PM
I'm thinking Frank Warren doesn't want anything to do with Tszyu now.

I get the feeling Warren fancys Hattons chances against Tszyu, from what Warren has said he wants Tszyu more than anyone.

bandito
11-08-2004, 01:29 PM
i like hatton alot, but tszyu will stop him!!

mic573
11-08-2004, 01:30 PM
I get the feeling Warren fancys Hattons chances against Tszyu, from what Warren has said he wants Tszyu more than anyone.

I think it would not be a good move to go after Tszyu. I said Hatton's style gives him some trouble maybe for 3 or 4 rounds but in those rounds Tszyu will get in some good shots. Tszyu's punches will eventually wear down Hatton and he will become less and less effective as the rounds go on. Tszyu by stoppage late if Hatton can take the heat or midrounds if he can't.

t_tsuguri
11-08-2004, 02:23 PM
ive never seen hatton fight but kostya looked really strong and im not sure anyone at 140 could take him right now

elveiel
11-08-2004, 02:52 PM
ive never seen hatton fight but kostya looked really strong and im not sure anyone at 140 could take him right now

Yeah, Tszyu is a great fighter.

If you want to see Hatton fight click on the link.
http://www.rickyhitmanhatton.com/video/video.html

jabsRstiff
11-08-2004, 03:03 PM
What's Hatton going to do, OUTBOX Tszyu ?
He certainly isn't going to trade punches with Kostya, & survive against him.
Hatton has little chance against Tszyu.

dansweeney
11-08-2004, 03:40 PM
tszyu would ko anybody on the planet at 140 right now, i dont think anybody out there has the beard to stand up to his punches, also his left hook looks great too, so it isnt just the straight right

borikua
11-08-2004, 03:42 PM
i would like to see Hatton against some tuff guy like N'Dou first and he needs to get his ass out of the MEN arena...i think that the perfect fight right now would be Hatton-Cotto. if i'm not wrong...Hatton is the mandatory for Cotto's title.

borikua
11-08-2004, 03:48 PM
tszyu would ko anybody on the planet at 140 right now, i dont think anybody out there has the beard to stand up to his punches, also his left hook looks great too, so it isnt just the straight right

naw...Floyd wouldn't get KO by Tszyu and Cotto would ktfo Tszyu...

Moon
11-08-2004, 03:50 PM
i would like to see Hatton against some tuff guy like N'Dou first and he needs to get his ass out of the MEN arena...i think that the perfect fight right now would be Hatton-Cotto. if i'm not wrong...Hatton is the mandatory for Cotto's title.

Wow! Nobody in this forum seems to like Ricky Hatton much, eh?

We start this thread with Hatton vs Kostya, and now looking to see him in there with Cotto.

Both guys remove Hatton's head.

Doesn't matter anyway. Earlier post said it all ..... Kostya vs Hatton about as likely as Warren vs Godzilla.

jabsRstiff
11-08-2004, 03:55 PM
naw...Floyd wouldn't get KO by Tszyu and Cotto would ktfo Tszyu...



Cotto has yet to prove he could handle Kostya Tszyu.
Were the Kelson Pinto & Ndou fights that impressive to you ?
Because they're the only real 140lbers on Cotto's resume.

If Cotto & Tszyu fought now....Cotto may get his career ruined, Davey Moore style.

borikua
11-08-2004, 03:57 PM
Wow! Nobody in this forum seems to like Ricky Hatton much, eh?

We start this thread with Hatton vs Kostya, and now looking to see him in there with Cotto.

Both guys remove Hatton's head.

Doesn't matter anyway. Earlier post said it all ..... Kostya vs Hatton about as likely as Warren vs Godzilla.

is not like i hate Hatton...the kid has skillz and power but he needs to fight a top fighter and get the hell out of the MEN arena...

elveiel
11-08-2004, 04:00 PM
i would like to see Hatton against some tuff guy like N'Dou first and he needs to get his ass out of the MEN arena...i think that the perfect fight right now would be Hatton-Cotto. if i'm not wrong...Hatton is the mandatory for Cotto's title.

Ndou, Are you joking me??

Check Hattons record, he's fought in the US and Germany before, the reason he fights in manchester is the same reason he fights full stop = to earn as much money as he can. he would leave manchester for Tszyu.

Cotto vs Hatton would be a good fight but would be a bad career move for both fighters, anyway Hatton would just get abuse from the haters for holding the WBO.

borikua
11-08-2004, 04:01 PM
Cotto has yet to prove he could handle Kostya Tszyu.
Were the Kelson Pinto & Ndou fights that impressive to you ?
Because they're the only real 140lbers on Cotto's resume.

If Cotto & Tszyu fought now....Cotto may get his career ruined, Davey Moore style.

of course i was impressed by his fights with Ndou and Pinto...and did you forgot that he destroyed Sosa...who gave a good fight against Floyd...

jabsRstiff
11-08-2004, 04:04 PM
of course i was impressed by his fights with Ndou and Pinto...and did you forgot that he destroyed Sosa...who gave a good fight against Floyd...


Cotto vs. Sosa was welter vs. lightweight.

Remember....just because Cotto destroyed Sosa & Floyd didn't, it doesn't mean anything.
Floyd's not the same kind of fighter as Cotto.

borikua
11-08-2004, 04:07 PM
Ndou, Are you joking me??
Nope...


Cotto vs Hatton would be a good fight but would be a bad career move for both fighters...
Naw...it would be a bad career move for Hatton, cuz he would get KTFO!!!

drag0n_
11-08-2004, 07:11 PM
I think Hatton is very under-rated on this site. Whoever he has fought, he has dealt with them, although they might not be the "elite" they haven't been ridiculous bums. In my dumb opinion Cotto has fought the same level as Hatton so there's no reason behind why Cotto would "KTFO" hatton.
And imo I think Ricky is a far better fighter than Sharmba and could cause Kostya a few problems. As a fan of Ricky,i think he would have to fight out of his whitey skin to beat Kostya! My point is that i wouldn't write off ricky completely until they've fought!

INFAMOUZ
11-08-2004, 07:30 PM
Is Hatton the #1 IBF mandatory already... or is he just rated #1... I don't remember him being in an eliminator... I remember he was to fight Mitchell for the #1 spot he was ran scared... Read one article where Hatton says "I am keen for the fight and, given my IBF mandatory position, all the cards are set up nicely."
So basically I interpret that as being they will offer Zoo 40% of the total purse... the fight has to be in Manchester... otherwise Tszyu is scared and Hatton's team will send a letter to the IBF giving up his #1 position because Tszyu won't agree to our terms...

drag0n_
11-08-2004, 07:34 PM
His ibf eliminator was against Mike Stewart

ispayder
11-08-2004, 09:20 PM
There is a possibility that KT and Hatton may fight and if ever they do, I see KT whippin' Hatton's ass. I would prefer to see KT fighting Floyd Mayweather after one more fight or by late next year.

whdempsey
11-09-2004, 12:15 AM
Hatton is not ready just yet,he needs a few more fights ,KT will loose to Mayweather,and just maybe KT/Cotto could fight for the belt after Floyed vacates it and moves on to 147.
No. None of that is likely to happen. For one thing, is Tzyu can't get Hatton, he'll probably take on Gatti, or Mayweather if Pretty Boy gets there first. He'd beat either one.

Tzyu would stop Gatti in a bloodbath, or beat Floyd up in a fairly close fight. Gatti's chin isn't as dependable as his heart and Tzyu's a great finisher. If Angel Manfredy got the stoppage, Tzyu would too (I do know the stoppage was on cuts, but that doesn't make a material difference). Floyd would probably take the early rounds, but his hands would fail him at some point and then Tzyu's dependable right hand and new found left hook would start landing and eventually he'd go down. Floyd would probably get up because of his ego, and may be able to dance the last three or four rounds to safety, or maybe Tzyu would put him back on the canvas.

As for Cotto, that fight probably won't ever happen. Well, unless Tzyu were to age a bit more and start looking 35 in the ring. Otherwise their career parths will just barely miss intersecting as Tzyu moves to 147 and Cotto takes over at junior welter.

whdempsey
11-09-2004, 12:21 AM
Cotto vs. Sosa was welter vs. lightweight.

Remember....just because Cotto destroyed Sosa & Floyd didn't, it doesn't mean anything.
Floyd's not the same kind of fighter as Cotto.

Some guys will write anyone off.

elveiel
11-09-2004, 04:38 AM
Nope...



Naw...it would be a bad career move for Hatton, cuz he would get KTFO!!!

:D

Yeah, i know your joking me!! Ndou is a top 20 fighter at best, only the WBC rate him in the top 15 and we all know how **** the WBC ratings are!! they even rate Witter as top5!! LMFAO!!

To say Hatton would get KTFO is a very bold statement which is likely backfire!! Hatton a very talented fighter, who's displays couldnt be more convincing!! Anyone who thinks Cotto has beaten better fighters than Hatton, is a blind idiot!! I hope you have more sense than that.

I'm a Cotto fan and have followed him since he turned pro but i'm not blind, he's been in with **** fighters, even worst than Hattons opponents! So how could you possibly know Cotto could step up and knock Hatton out??

pinkpanther
11-09-2004, 04:59 AM
No. None of that is likely to happen. For one thing, is Tzyu can't get Hatton, he'll probably take on Gatti, or Mayweather if Pretty Boy gets there first. He'd beat either one.

Tzyu would stop Gatti in a bloodbath, or beat Floyd up in a fairly close fight. Gatti's chin isn't as dependable as his heart and Tzyu's a great finisher. If Angel Manfredy got the stoppage, Tzyu would too (I do know the stoppage was on cuts, but that doesn't make a material difference). Floyd would probably take the early rounds, but his hands would fail him at some point and then Tzyu's dependable right hand and new found left hook would start landing and eventually he'd go down. Floyd would probably get up because of his ego, and may be able to dance the last three or four rounds to safety, or maybe Tzyu would put him back on the canvas.

As for Cotto, that fight probably won't ever happen. Well, unless Tzyu were to age a bit more and start looking 35 in the ring. Otherwise their career parths will just barely miss intersecting as Tzyu moves to 147 and Cotto takes over at junior welter.

It's hard for me to tell from what you are saying but do you think Hatton has a chance against Tyzsu, you say Tyszu would beat Gatti in a blood bath, I agree that he would win but \I think it would be quite an easy win, I also think that Hatton would beat Gatti well.

elveiel
11-09-2004, 05:04 AM
Is Hatton the #1 IBF mandatory already... or is he just rated #1... I don't remember him being in an eliminator... I remember he was to fight Mitchell for the #1 spot he was ran scared... Read one article where Hatton says "I am keen for the fight and, given my IBF mandatory position, all the cards are set up nicely."
So basically I interpret that as being they will offer Zoo 40% of the total purse... the fight has to be in Manchester... otherwise Tszyu is scared and Hatton's team will send a letter to the IBF giving up his #1 position because Tszyu won't agree to our terms...

I'm confident that Hatton will fight abroad against Tszyu, Tszyu is a genuine world champ and one of the only fighters worth travelling for!! It makes me laugh that people expect Hatton to fight in America against weak opponents for less money!?!

I'd see Hatton travel for - Gatti, Mayweather and Tszyu! Everyone else can come to him. Although I dont care about Gatti's title, its only the money Hatton should travel for, Hatton was WBC number 1 until they realised Gatti was worth more money and let him fight for the title instead(WBC are one corrupt organisation) so really Hatton should have fought Branco for the title.

I also think Tszyu should get the champions share of the money, I think Hatton will concede that Tszyu is the real champ(unlike Harris who was given the title) and would be willing to take a pay cut out of respect.

I'm a little shocked that you could believe anything that ****ING IDIOT Sharmba mitchell says :confused: . Didnt you watch the first Tsyzu fight?? He asked his corner to pull him out about five times until they give in and then said in an interview that his corner wouldnt let him continue :D . How can anyone believe a word he said?

Exactly the same with Harris, He refused to fight abroad and take less money than Hatton because he was the champ, i could understand why some people would choose to believe him until he fought in Germany for less money than Urkal!! LMFAO!!

J !
11-09-2004, 07:38 AM
naw...Floyd wouldn't get KO by Tszyu and Cotto would ktfo Tszyu...


not on last weeks display IMO, Cotto is not ready Kostya yet maybe 18 monnths. Please give the kid a chance.

As for hatton I have a sneaky suspicion that what will happen will be something along the lines of the following, just a gut feel but its quite possible.

Kostya fights Gatti wins and beocme "superchamp, champ emeritus whatever bull**** they have decided to invent).

Hatotn fights a live challenger someone like Lovemmore Ndou to become regular champ, then we will see what the status is,m Kostya at this juncture is in the twilight of his career he needs the big money fights and Im not sure Hatton is that.

KOstya as we know may see beating Gatti as securing his name at light welter and move up to fight spinks at Welter.

LeFtHooK24
11-09-2004, 12:00 PM
kostya is over rated , how u figure gatti loses to kostya?

rudy
11-09-2004, 12:03 PM
Hatton will fight Tszyu next but I would like to see to two of the biggest bull ****ters in in Light-Welterweight division fight each other. Vivan Harris and Junior Witter both think everybody has avoided them yet do not take any chances. Instead of calling out Mayweather have both have done why not fight each other on the undercard of Gatti vs Leija.

LeFtHooK24
11-09-2004, 12:06 PM
i was reading someone reply in some forum did hatton beat mitchell
i didnt even know they fought

J !
11-09-2004, 12:09 PM
kostya is over rated , how u figure gatti loses to kostya?

gatti is too easy to hit and isnt a natural light welter, if sharmba a slick boxer cant keep away from Kostya then what hope has Gatti got, Gatti while carrying pwoer dont carry the type of natural power at the weight thats in Kostya's fists, thats TNT mate, look what he has done to his big name challengers in Mitchell and
Judah, jeez he destroyed them how can you say he is over rated. What has gatti done at light welter struggled against a fringe top tenner in Irish Mickyt ward in 3 fights and beat a natural lightweight in Dorin big deal.
He isnt well enough schoolled at Light welter enough to take out someone of Kostya's experience and class IMO.
the bloke was awesome on sat night.

just my thoughts I love gatti, he is a hero a warrior, Ive got a signed pic of him in my spare room, one of the guys to look up to, but I hope he doesnt fight kostya as Gatti is too brave for his own good.

The1God
11-09-2004, 12:10 PM
I really thought that Hatton was scared ****tless of Mitchell. Wonder if he would fight him now. Hatton v Kostya has to happen. Get rid of Ricky, harris then go and pummel Floyd and retire.

mic573
11-09-2004, 12:18 PM
kostya is over rated , how u figure gatti loses to kostya?

Kostya Tszyu is not overrated. How can a guy who is the top dog in the deepest division in boxing be overrated? If anything I think Gatti is overrated in alot of peoples minds. Gatti is nothing but an exciting B level fighter while Tszyu has proven he is still on the top of his game and about level or two above Gatti.

LeFtHooK24
11-09-2004, 12:19 PM
yea gatti is easy to hit but so is kostya. i feel if they fought gatti would pull it off but i wanna see kostya fight mayweather so mayweather can kick his ass he doesnt stand a chance agaisnt mayweather and i feel gatti's gonna fight mayweather in jan jsut a gut feeling.

LeFtHooK24
11-09-2004, 12:23 PM
yo mic kostya is over rated and so is gatti a little bit im not gonna dispute that but im going with the puncher from jersey city on that one..and did hatton beat mitchell will somebody let mee know..i didnt even know they fought

mic573
11-09-2004, 12:26 PM
Hatton and Mitchell have never fought. Kostya hits harder and his chin is better than Gatti's. He will break Gatti down and then take him out easily.

LeFtHooK24
11-09-2004, 12:26 PM
I really thought that Hatton was scared ****tless of Mitchell. Wonder if he would fight him now. Hatton v Kostya has to happen. Get rid of Ricky, harris then go and pummel Floyd and retire.



i doubt he'll pummel floyd , i just dont see that happening and that boy hatton is a work horse who loves to hit the body so it wont be a cake walk for kostya

LeFtHooK24
11-09-2004, 12:28 PM
[ He will break Gatti down and then take him out easily.[/QUOTE]


Yea well mitchell had him hurt to now ,kostya's chin is suspect.
Gatti would have a chance

The1God
11-09-2004, 12:32 PM
Everybody has a chance. Floyd hasn't had his chin tested well yet. I think Kostya will dominate the division, anybody that avoids him is afraid. Mitchell looked a bit nervous, now we know why. Floyd will lose and say his widdle hands hurt.

mic573
11-09-2004, 12:33 PM
Of course Gatti has a chance. Every fighter has a chance even if it's a slim one.

LuKahnLi
11-09-2004, 12:35 PM
People thought Judah would beat Tszyu. Tszyu lit him up.
People thought Mitchell would win the rematch. Tszyu beat him down.
People thought Tackie would get in their and overpower Tszyu. Tszyu boxed his ass off.

He is too strong and too skilled for any of the current 140 lbers. He will find a way to win with EVERYONE.

LeFtHooK24
11-09-2004, 12:39 PM
If gatti can get to be a slug fest put pressure on kostya he has a shot and against mayweather ,kostya slow..or average i guess he moves a lil like a robot mayweather fast hands will pick his ass off all day and mayweather is one of the best fighters on the inside so kostya would have to be on his a game..and mitchell is over rated i knew he was gonna lose he look like his heart was in his ass at openign bell

LeFtHooK24
11-09-2004, 12:40 PM
the thing with judah was his ass tryed to move outta the way of the punch instead of keeping his gaurd up

The1God
11-09-2004, 12:40 PM
People thought Judah would beat Tszyu. Tszyu lit him up.
People thought Mitchell would win the rematch. Tszyu beat him down.
People thought Tackie would get in their and overpower Tszyu. Tszyu boxed his ass off.

He is too strong and too skilled for any of the current 140 lbers. He will find a way to win with EVERYONE.

I will admit, I am one of those "People" I have since learned.

LeFtHooK24
11-09-2004, 12:41 PM
its not like kostya dominated that fight 1st round 2nd round toss up till the carlessness of judah

mic573
11-09-2004, 12:42 PM
People thought Judah would beat Tszyu. Tszyu lit him up.
People thought Mitchell would win the rematch. Tszyu beat him down.
People thought Tackie would get in their and overpower Tszyu. Tszyu boxed his ass off.

He is too strong and too skilled for any of the current 140 lbers. He will find a way to win with EVERYONE.

This is true. I admit I thought Mitchell would win the rematch by a close decision because I didn't think Tszyu would comeback in the same form he was when he left. The only fighters I see right now possibly beating Kostya is Mayweather and with more fights under him Cotto.

LeFtHooK24
11-09-2004, 12:45 PM
I have a feeling if he faught gatti and gatti can get him in an all slug fest he can win

bigdlb12
11-09-2004, 12:46 PM
Kostya vs Gatti would be DLH vs Gatti all over,maybe a fast stoppage or KO

LeFtHooK24
11-09-2004, 12:48 PM
if gatti trys to out box him then **** unless the boxes the fight of his life he might have a chjance he has to get kostya in a slug fight to have a chance against mayweather ,kostya i cant see him out boxing floyd i see an easy victory for floyd..i just wanna see someone hit floyd clean so i can see if he can take a punch..i never seen him hurt from a punch

LeFtHooK24
11-09-2004, 12:49 PM
Kostya vs Gatti would be DLH vs Gatti all over,maybe a fast stoppage or KO


yea i dont see a decision but i dont kostya walking over gatti..gatti chances of winning r good and kostya cant take shots as well as everyone thinks mitchell had him hurt a couple times during the fight

tony
11-10-2004, 08:17 AM
I don't think Hatton is going to get any better than he is right now. Warren needs to let his charge go and challenge the best of the division. I think it'll be a great fight. I'd lean with Tyzsu, but i've never seen Hatton ever troubled and he has fought some names. It wouldn't be a walkover by any means.

J !
11-10-2004, 08:18 AM
yea i dont see a decision but i dont kostya walking over gatti..gatti chances of winning r good and kostya cant take shots as well as everyone thinks mitchell had him hurt a couple times during the fight

im sorry but did you even watch saturdays fight?

Irish mickey ward gave gatti hell, sorry mate but Kostya is ten times better than Mickey who was a limited but extremelty brave fighter.


I think my friend your admiration for Gatti is clouding your judgement. It happens though Im no better sometimes!

Letting your heart rule rule your head I belive its called. ;) :cool:

semjasa
11-10-2004, 08:23 AM
I hope so. I would love to see hatton catch an ass whippin. Not that i dont like him, i just dont like how over protected he is.

Hatton wont get his ass whipped dude, its a 50-50 fight and anyone who says otherwaise is a fool and, or knows fuk all about boxing.

Hatton may get ko'd, but so may Kostya, Hatton fights upclose with a swarming style, which takes away the right hand, so then he has to worry about the left, easy he circles away from it with a high right hand and good lateral movement, which by the way is Hattons natural style so he hasbt got to make drastic changes to beat Kostya.

If you ask me Hatton has the perfect style to beat Kostya....

J !
11-10-2004, 08:30 AM
its not as one sided as many are making out but Id have to favour kostya on last weekends showing, be interesting to se how Hatton deals with Oliviera. Nice anylasis though Semjesa you may be right but Kostya will also work out tactics to fit hatton dont forget, I would love Ricky to do it to shut the naysayers up but as ive previously posted i think Kostya will go for gatti and leave Ricky to fight someone like Ndou fo the vacant strap.

I'll be there in Dec though its the same night as williams so having a few lads over to go to the hatotn fight which is only half hour away folm where i live in South east Laaaaandon, then back to shout on danny from midnite on, tip top cant wait!

dont think my neighbours will agree though :cool: ;) :D

Deejay
11-10-2004, 07:37 PM
Tszyu eats him for breakfast. I like Hatton's workrate but Tszyu is a master boxer who is comfortable with his own style. He proved this against Tackie by putting on a clinic. Hatton just wouldn't be able to rush in and swing away...anyway, this fight won't happen..frank won't let it...Tszyu destroys anyone at 140, and that includes Mayweather..he's too small, and won't be able to take KT's power, Corley rocked him for Chrissakes!!

LeFtHooK24
11-10-2004, 08:59 PM
Tszyu eats him for breakfast. I like Hatton's workrate but Tszyu is a master boxer who is comfortable with his own style. He proved this against Tackie by putting on a clinic. Hatton just wouldn't be able to rush in and swing away...anyway, this fight won't happen..frank won't let it...Tszyu destroys anyone at 140, and that includes Mayweather..he's too small, and won't be able to take KT's power, Corley rocked him for Chrissakes!!

That doesnt include Mayweather are u crazy, Tszyu fights Mayweather victory Mayweather. Floyd is a way better boxer then Tszyu and moves alot better then Tszyu , who moves like a damn robot most of the times.

Deejay
11-10-2004, 09:55 PM
That doesnt include Mayweather are u crazy, Tszyu fights Mayweather victory Mayweather. Floyd is a way better boxer then Tszyu and moves alot better then Tszyu , who moves like a damn robot most of the times.

That's all nice and good, but hey...judah & mitchell both move better than KT (and so did alot of other fighters in the past 7 years) but it didn't help their cause did it? Tszyu is a pressure fighter who stalks his opponent around the ring, he is usually the agressor right? That's why is footwork isn't flashy, but it IS deliberate. He cuts off the ring and destroys opponents, it's that simple.

pinkpanther
11-17-2004, 05:00 AM
Jesus Christ, this post has nothing to do with Gatti! Gatti would get eaten by both Tyszu and Hatton. Gatti is a legend not for his boxing ability but for the fights he has been in and the heart he has shown. I really like Gatti don't get me wrong but the bottom line is that Tyszu, Mayweather, Hatton and Cotto would eat him up. Gatti would have a good battle against Mitchell because Mithchell doesn't have the power to take him out and Harris because they are about level pegging in the ability stakes - but that is as far as Gatti goes.

Cletus Funk
11-17-2004, 05:06 AM
Jesus Christ, this post has nothing to do with Gatti! Gatti would get eaten by both Tyszu and Hatton. Gatti is a legend not for his boxing ability but for the fights he has been in and the heart he has shown. I really like Gatti don't get me wrong but the bottom line is that Tyszu, Mayweather, Hatton and Cotto would eat him up. Gatti would have a good battle against Mitchell because Mithchell doesn't have the power to take him out and Harris because they are about level pegging in the ability stakes - but that is as far as Gatti goes.

Bang on mate. Look at what Gatti had to go through to beat a journeyman in Micky Ward.

tony
11-17-2004, 08:32 AM
Yeah, i love Gatti but he'll come unstuck when he fights one of the top guys.

Horus
06-20-2010, 07:43 PM
People **** on hatton greatness but lets us never forget that ricky hatton beat
tyzu who was by all account the greatest fighter ever at
140 if not top 3.

ricky hatton is a future hof in my book.

-Antonio-
06-20-2010, 08:24 PM
People **** on hatton greatness but lets us never forget that ricky hatton beat
tyzu who was by all account the greatest fighter ever at
140 if not top 3.

ricky hatton is a future hof in my book.

Why was Tszyu the greatest fighter at 140? He beat a bunch of old fighters. After he beat Judah he fought the killers row of Ben Tackie, Sharrmbae Mitchell, and JJ Leija. Not to mention he got drilled by Vince Phillips. He was inactive, had injuries. It's an overated win imo. Not enough to live your career off of it.

paulf
06-20-2010, 08:32 PM
Tszyu was in the right place at the right time.He beat some old timers, owned Zab, ect. but he was in now way an ATG. Props to him for going when it was time to go, though (even though he maintains he hasnt retired)

| THE KING |
06-20-2010, 08:35 PM
Hatton gets a bad rap on here just because of his two losses to ATG's. He would always get in that ring and do his thing..

bigdlb12
06-21-2010, 10:55 AM
Hatton gets a bad rap on here just because of his two losses to ATG's. He would always get in that ring and do his thing..

it's not cuz he loss, but they way he loss

Getting KO by PBF in 10, ok, he went 10 rds
but vs Manny in 2 after being down in the 1st rd, he couldnt hang in there with him

no secret there that, Hatton beat an old Tszyu and Castillo, kinda like Tszyu beat some old fighters too, being in the right place at the right time

revs1227
06-21-2010, 11:06 AM
lol at this thread no one gave hatton a chance in hell
but what ever ill be looking foward to meetng him whens hes inducted in to the ibhof in a couple years

infamous larryx
06-21-2010, 11:13 AM
damn...lol..hindsight is 20/20