The title speaks for it self

id say joe louis or rocky marciano

marciano because he had 43 ko's from 49 fights
louis because he knocked out so many great contenders

possibly sam langford

Shavers for his right hand
Tyson for speed,accuracy,and explosiveness
Liston,Baer,and Foreman for Raw strength

P4P I think Julian Jackson. Dude was just lethal.

Gamboa-unbelievable Power speed technical work.

Tommy Hearns? The Duran KO...

George Foreman because he could punch you through a wall made out of pure diamonds.

Joe Calzaghe.

Iron Mike Tyson is one of the main candidates because he could explode with either hand and a variety of punches. He was well schooled and didn't just develop power in particular shots like many other top fighters.

For 1 shot power, Shavers. Holmes and Ali say he's the hardest puncher they felt.

For sustained power, combos and accurate shots all factored in, Tyson.

Iron Mike Tyson is one of the main candidates because he could explode with either hand and a variety of punches. He was well schooled and didn't just develop power in particular shots like many other top fighters.

In that case Joe Louis is head and shoulders better than everyone.

4342282]For 1 shot power, Shavers. Holmes and Ali say he's the hardest puncher they felt.[/B]

For sustained power, combos and accurate shots all factored in, Tyson.

I would probably go Shavers, Foreman, Louis, Liston and Tyson for the top 5.

But none were the overall punching package that Joe Louis Barrow was.

Max Baer was once asked his definition of fear. His answer was "standing across the ring from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early".

Jimmy Braddock claimed getting hit by Louis was like being hit with a crow bar.

And Max Schmeling screamed in pain fom a louis body punch and claimed to have temporarily lost his vision.

For one punch KO power I would have to go with Julian Jackson. The guy had heavyweight power and would come up with a punch from nowhere that turned a likely defeat into a KO win on more than one occasion.

In that case Joe Louis is head and shoulders better than everyone.
Maybe. But he did struggle to KO a few blown up light heavies. It is difficult to assess. There were so many big punchers and Louis and Tyson are obviously very close to the top. I use to think it was Louis at one point too.

how much did joe louis weight at though?
wasnt he only around 200 pds?

http://www.brickcityboxing.com/media/marciano-walcott.jpg

prime mike was probably the hardest and if he wasn't he was the best puncher.

accuracy, timing, speed, power, etc.

cal-slappy. LOL

Shavers. In a league of his own. And Baer caused the death of two fighters which none of the other guys mentioned did, so he must be included.

The hardest puncher I've seen in the flesh was Hamed. I was in the cheap seats near the back of the NYNEX and I swear I could feel the concussion wave generated by those wicked shots.

Hardest ever? Shavers, Jimmy Wilde, Ketchel ... maybe. Dunno.

Maybe. But he did struggle to KO a few blown up light heavies. It is difficult to assess. There were so many big punchers and Louis and Tyson are obviously very close to the top. I use to think it was Louis at one point too.

During Joe's prime, which I consider going from the second Schmeling fight till the first Walcott fight, Louis was 21-0 (19). Buddy Baer was given a DQ loss because his managers wouldn't leave the ring as the round was set to begin, because their man was taking such a beating. In essence this should also be a TKO on Joe's record. The other to last the distance was Arturo Godoy who was stopped in 8 (I think) the next time he fought Louis. Interestingly enough, Godoy was only stopped one other time in a career with more than a hundred fights.

Him struggling with Conn the first time and a couple others during his career is more a reflection of his patient fighting style, than his punching ability. In his immortal words "they can run, but they can't hide". And during his prime this was proven over and over again.

how much did joe louis weight at though?
wasnt he only around 200 pds?

Thats why he is ranked so high in my opinion. He was strong, but his knockout punches weren't based on power as much as precision punch placement and timing. If he had the technique of a Foreman or Shavers he still would have knocked guys out, but not nearly as many.

prime mike was probably the hardest and if he wasn't he was the best puncher.

I reserve that spot exclusively for George Foreman. I don't think anyone matches George for raw power.

The hardest puncher I've seen in the flesh was Hamed. I was in the cheap seats near the back of the NYNEX and I swear I could feel the concussion wave generated by those wicked shots.

Hardest ever? Shavers, Jimmy Wilde, Ketchel ... maybe. Dunno.

Since this is a "hardest puncher ever" discussion I think it has to be pretty much rserved for the big boys. P4p alot of guys would come into play, including Hamed. I saw him fight Augie Sanchez. We had decent but not great seats and his punches sounded like gunshots. What made it even more amazing is he walked by us on the way to the ring and he is tiny, tiny, tiny. You don't get a sense of it till you're actually next to some of these guys. Hagler was the same way.

Since this is a "hardest puncher ever" discussion I think it has to be pretty much rserved for the big boys. P4p alot of guys would come into play, including Hamed. I saw him fight Augie Sanchez. We had decent but not great seats and his punches sounded like gunshots. What made it even more amazing is he walked by us on the way to the ring and he is tiny, tiny, tiny. You don't get a sense of it till you're actually next to some of these guys. Hagler was the same way.

Yeah. The wife had her picture taken with him years ago in Ibiza. She isn't tall and Hamed was a good three inches shorter than her. It's amazing to think such a small guy can hit with that kind of ferocity.

Wayne mCcolough.

George Foreman or Julian Jackson.

how much did joe louis weight at though?
wasnt he only around 200 pds?

doesnt matter how much he weighed

he had freakish power

yeah if we're talking about raw power it'd pretty much be a discussion of HW

same if we were talking about the quickest hands of all time, it'd mainly be a lower weights discussion

p4p hamed had crazy power, i reckon he hit as hard as your average MW

During Joe's prime, which I consider going from the second Schmeling fight till the first Walcott fight, Louis was 21-0 (19). Buddy Baer was given a DQ loss because his managers wouldn't leave the ring as the round was set to begin, because their man was taking such a beating. In essence this should also be a TKO on Joe's record. The other to last the distance was Arturo Godoy who was stopped in 8 (I think) the next time he fought Louis. Interestingly enough, Godoy was only stopped one other time in a career with more than a hundred fights.

Him struggling with Conn the first time and a couple others during his career is more a reflection of his patient fighting style, than his punching ability. In his immortal words "they can run, but they can't hide". And during his prime this was proven over and over again.i have to agree with you. I keep changing my mind and quite often I do go for Louis as one of the hardest punchers, cos like I said before I like to give credit for a variety of KO punches rather than a one trick pony. When all is said and done, I think I will be the new number one as I KO'd people in the am's too! :boxing:

Louis and Tyson are two of my faves because of the variety. I think RJJ could have been great if he wasn't so reluctant to kill. The Griffin rematch showed what he could do, and what he should have done more often. People forget to give credit to contemporary fighters (like me!). I think Naz was hardest punching featherweight of all time although not the best. He brought attetnion to the lower divisions

I'm not a huge fan, but Lennox Lewis could sure as hell punch. That awesome size.

You guys forgetting a mother f****er by the name of Ron Lyle. Now he could bang!

I'm not a huge fan, but Lennox Lewis could sure as hell punch. That awesome size.

You guys forgetting a mother f****er by the name of Ron Lyle. Now he could bang!

Bob Satterfield? Tommy Morrison? There have been a lot of devastating punchers over the years.

Gerrie Cooney's left to the body or head is as good a punch as has ever been thrown.

Some guys judt rise above the others over the course of a whole career. Can anybody even imagine the kind of wrecking machine Shavers would have been had he had patients, timing and stamina? LORD have mercy!!

Yeah Shavers may be the best (or most dangerous) guy not to win the belt.

Who do you feel are underrated big punchers?

Prince Naseem and Kostya Tszyu. Both of them had the punch to bail out of tough fightd such as Kelly and Judah. I think they both would have lost them fights wihtout their big punch

WE MUST ALSO REMEMBER THE POWER OF CARLOS ZARATE.....:boxing:

Yeah Shavers may be the best (or most dangerous) guy not to win the belt.

Who do you feel are underrated big punchers?

Cooney, Coetzee, Bowe, Lyle, and believe it or not.....Tony Galento, among others.

Roberto Duran i mean c'mon his hands were made out of stones!

Of the giant punchers (Tyson, Louis, Foreman, Shavers etc) who do you regard as the greatest 1 punch KO artist?

Its round 12, they are behind on all cards, they need the KO...who is most likely to produce that bomb?

I'd say Tyson. Power with either hand, and had great accuracy.

Of the giant punchers (Tyson, Louis, Foreman, Shavers etc) who do you regard as the greatest 1 punch KO artist?

Its round 12, they are behind on all cards, they need the KO...who is most likely to produce that bomb?

I'd say Tyson. Power with either hand, and had great accuracy.

This definetly belongs to Louis. He had 6 ko's at or past 10 rounds. Im not sure any other fighter comes close. Sam Langford had 10, but he also had more than 4 times as many fights. Tyson and Liston each have 1 at 10 or more. Liston 2. Shavers and Marciano had 3.

There aren't any bigger hitters than these guys and this is proof positive Louis was the king of the late ko.

Interesting. It would depend on who they KO'd though.

Ie if Tyson is getting cats out of there prior to the late rounds, that speaks for his KO power. My understanding is that Mike and Shavers have the most 1st round KO's ever. Ie the same guy who lasted 10 or so v Louis may have been an early win for say Tyson. This is speculative ofcourse, but thats why we love such conversations.

Interesting. It would depend on who they KO'd though.

Ie if Tyson is getting cats out of there prior to the late rounds, that speaks for his KO power. My understanding is that Mike and Shavers have the most 1st round KO's ever. Ie the same guy who lasted 10 or so v Louis may have been an early win for say Tyson. This is speculative ofcourse, but thats why we love such conversations.

Tysons only 10th round ko came against Jose Ribalta. Louis ko'd Conn, Walcott, Pasture and Simon, all highly ranked fighters or hall of famers. Louis also has 25 ko's in 3 or less, while Tyson has 32.

Myself, I have no doubt Louis was the better late round puncher. Part of it has to do with his patient style, the rest of it is just natural.

For sheer KO ability, I cant really see past Tyson. No doubt JL was the more accomplished fighter, but when we're talking raw animal 'hit the mofo and kill him' logic, Mike comes up tops in my mind.

Tysons only 10th round ko came against Jose Ribalta. Louis ko'd Conn, Walcott, Pasture and Simon, all highly ranked fighters or hall of famers. Louis also has 25 ko's in 3 or less, while Tyson has 32.

Myself, I have no doubt Louis was the better late round puncher. Part of it has to do with his patient style, the rest of it is just natural.

If my memory serves me right I think Bob Satterfield still holds the record for most 1st round KOs at Heavyweight which is food for thought since he was really only a Light-Heavy and was prone to getting KOed in the 1st himself.

Jab, I think I've mad a Louis convert out of you LOL!

Poet

It's been a few years since I've read it, but I do believe that Dempsey used to and may still have the record for most first round knockouts at heavyweight.

I think it was Young Otto who was credited with having the most in that category regardless of weight division.

I don't know how accurate these numbers are, but I found this list, which would be a top five rankings of the most first round knockouts (credited) in history;

1. Young Otto - 42
2. Tiger Jack Fox - 30
3. Jack Dempsey - 26
4. Sean O'Grady - 24
5. Buddy Baer - 23

I'm sure LaMar Clark holds the record for consecutive KOs, something like 44 in a row. He once KO'd 6 men in one night, which gives some idea of the level of opposition, who were nearly all novices and local stiffs. He was also one of Ali's early opponents, and was stopped in two rounds.

I'm sure LaMar Clark holds the record for consecutive KOs, something like 44 in a row. He once KO'd 6 men in one night, which gives some idea of the level of opposition, who were nearly all novices and local stiffs. He was also one of Ali's early opponents, and was stopped in two rounds.

That's true.

His record can be viewed here:
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=009367&cat=boxer

Billy Fox had 36 straight knockouts, although some of his fights were known fixes. The first time he had a decision win was in his 47th fight.

Julian Jackson, Shavers, Louis, Foreman.

I have to mention Hearns because he carried his power all the way to cruiserweight, that's crazy.

Earnie Shavers, George Foreman, Sonny Liston, Joe Louis, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, David Tua, Jack Dempsey, Tommy Morrison, Gerry Cooney, Wladimir Klitschko, Rocky Marciano, Jim Jeffries, Joe Frazier, Razor Ruddock, Cleveland Williams, Max Schmelling, Max Baer, Lamon Brewster and Frank Bruno, not necessarily in that order.

tyson in his prime and close to his prime wasn't only dangerous in the early rounds. he was getting beat for the entire fight against douglas, but tyson still knocked him down with one punch in the 8th or 9th round.

In have a hard time believing joe louis could punch harder then foreman or tyson and shavers

i have to agree with you. I keep changing my mind and quite often I do go for Louis as one of the hardest punchers, cos like I said before I like to give credit for a variety of KO punches rather than a one trick pony. When all is said and done, I think I will be the new number one as I KO'd people in the am's too! :boxing:



I can't beleive i missed this gem. That **** is sig worthy.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9886/litleo9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hardest puncher in the story of humanity. :haha::haha:



One a serious note, i have to say Julian Jackson. It's just the way he brutally knocked out people, there were out cold.

One a serious note, i have to say Julian Jackson. It's just the way he brutally knocked out people, there were out cold.

I must agree. He didn't just knock people out, he brutalised them. There are so many of his fights in which it looks as though he has killed them because of the way they fall. Really vicious KO's. There is probably few people that actually knocked out as many people as he did. Literal knock outs, when the opponent is unconscious briefly.

I must agree. He didn't just knock people out, he brutalised them. There are so many of his fights in which it looks as though he has killed them because of the way they fall. Really vicious KO's. There is probably few people that actually knocked out as many people as he did. Literal knock outs, when the opponent is unconscious briefly.

Indeed, just check that highlight video:

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Every KO makes you go "DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!"

Indeed, just check that highlight video:

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Every KO makes you go "DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!"

Pound for pound it's hard to argue against Jackson; and I think that's what the "spirit" of the thread was meant to be.

Poet

I can't beleive i missed this gem. That **** is sig worthy.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9886/litleo9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hardest puncher in the story of humanity. :haha::haha:



One a serious note, i have to say Julian Jackson. It's just the way he brutally knocked out people, there were out cold.

Yeah, no **** right? I'm quaking from his MONSTROUS power right now LOL!

Poet

In have a hard time believing joe louis could punch harder then foreman or tyson and shavers

Obviously someone who has never seen a Louis fight. I doubt anyone could punch harder then Shavers but to say Louis doesn't belong in the same catagory as those guys just screams of ignorance.

Poet

tyson in his prime and close to his prime wasn't only dangerous in the early rounds. he was getting beat for the entire fight against douglas, but tyson still knocked him down with one punch in the 8th or 9th round.

You know it was actually a "glancing: blow that hit Douglas. I didn't know it myself until I heard Douglas say in in a video clip. One angle shows Tyson's punch hit and slid up Douglas's chest up to Buster's chin.

I guess this is why Douglas said he wasn't hurt bad.



For who hits the hardest, without using "P4P," I don't know. I hear Shavers might be the hardest hitter. I've seen some of his fights and KO's and it does look like the guy had Monstrous power.

I don't know about Tyson at #1. I always thought Tyson had incredible power when all his attributes were working, but it was also the angles at which he punched that helped get those KO's. I do think it is possible that he hit harder when he came out of jail because his body had fully matured, but he was less effective as a fighter.

If it's P4P: going by the fights I watched, I thought Hearns was a freak of nature with his power at 147.

All Time: I'm sure someone would bring up Choynski since both Jack Johnson and Jeffries says the little guy hit them the hardest. He knocked out Johnson.

You also have many others to think about: Jimmy Wilde, Ketchel, Walcott {original}, etc.

You know it was actually a "glancing: blow that hit Douglas. I didn't know it myself until I heard Douglas say in in a video clip. One angle shows Tyson's punch hit and slid up Douglas's chest up to Buster's chin.

I guess this is why Douglas said he wasn't hurt bad.



For who hits the hardest, without using "P4P," I don't know. I hear Shavers might be the hardest hitter. I've seen some of his fights and KO's and it does look like the guy had Monstrous power.

I don't know about Tyson at #1. I always thought Tyson had incredible power when all his attributes were working, but it was also the angles at which he punched that helped get those KO's. I do think it is possible that he hit harder when he came out of jail because his body had fully matured, but he was less effective as a fighter.

If it's P4P: going by the fights I watched, I thought Hearns was a freak of nature with his power at 147.

All Time: I'm sure someone would bring up Choynski since both Jack Johnson and Jeffries says the little guy hit them the hardest. He knocked out Johnson.

You also have many others to think about: Jimmy Wilde, Ketchel, Walcott {original}, etc.

Angelo Dundee always says it's the punch you don't see coming that gets you out of there. Some of the most brutal KOs I've seen came from punches that weren't nessecerally the hardest but the victim never saw the punch. A lot of Tyson's KOs came via this route: That explosiveness of his got him KOs off punches he didn't have full leverage on.

For Shavers, watch the second Holmes fight: That right hand nearly decapitated Larry. The remakable thing wasn't how hard the punch was, although it was one of the most monstrous punches I've ever seen: The remarkable thing was Holmes got up from it, something no human being should have been able to do.

Poet