Foreman wins this fight easily. Tyson's chin has proven to be glass, although a few people still like to say it was iron. He's been knocked out by both Holyfield and Douglas, neither of whom were devastating punchers. Foreman, on the other hand, fought several good punchers, including Smokin' Joe Frazier, and proved to have a strong chin. Also, when someone comes forward at Tyson, he generally doesn't seem to know what to do. In his prime, he looked amazing when he was pitted against small defensive guys who were terrified of him like Mike Spinks or old guys who used to be great but haven't got it anymore, like Holmes. Foreman in his prime was bigger, stronger, and hit harder than Tyson ever did.

I agree. This is a good dream match up though. I think it'd be the HW equivalent of Hagler-Hearns with Foreman getting a 3rd Round KO.

old george would find a way to out smart tyson and win

In his prime, tyson was mean and aggressive with devistating

punching power. Sound familier, so was George Foreman. But in

the early days George Foreman didn't posses great boxing and

defensive skills like Mike Tyson. So on that, I would pick

Mike Tyson. When Foreman fought Lyle, Foreman left himself

completely exposed and won the fight on sheer will. If Foreman

left himself open like that against Mike Tyson he would be

Knocked out for sure. Tyson Ko Foreman in round 5.

Foreman would eat him alive.

In the Lyle fight, Foreman proved he could get up off the canvas to win, something tyson never had the ability to do. It's been proven over and over. When the going gets tough, tyson gets going(counted out that is). Tyson didn't want any part of an old Foreman, that tells you the story right there.

Foreman would look at a bit nastier Joe Frazier coming at him and wouldn't flinch. Pre-Ali Foreman destroys Tyson.

I'll say Foreman wins by a close decision.

Tyson ko 6

foreman unless tyson finds some way to get inside

I'd have to go with Iron Mike, especially if Big George fights the way he fought Muhammad Ali. Tyson would see those slow heavy hooks from George and do what Mike does best which is bob and weave and throw his own version of lightning quick hooks and uppercuts, add some side to side from Mike Tyson and Foreman would be one big tree on its way to getting chopped the f**k down! Forget about the Frazier - Foreman fight, Frazier ain't no Tyson!

good point Foreman. Foreman will take hard punches and get up and fight

harder.Tyson on the otherhand, has never got up from a knockdown to win

a fight. Thats what separates him from great heavyweight champions like

Ali, Foreman, Louis. Since you call yourself Foreman, has George Foreman

ever been knocked down since his comeback. I cant recall if he ever has.

Bostonguy, Nope, Big George has not been on the canvas since his comeback. Utterly amazing considering some of the opponents he faced and his age. It's ashame the '73 Foreman didn't have the mind of the 45 yr old Foreman. There is no doubt he would have been the greatest by far.

forman bye ko he is the heavist puncher ever

Foreman would crush him just like he crushed Joe Frazier, it's a matter of size.

Foreman wins this fight easily. Tyson's chin has proven to be glass, although a few people still like to say it was iron. He's been knocked out by both Holyfield and Douglas, neither of whom were devastating punchers.
I am sorry, but I with it completely not agree.:) You recollect how many punches was required Holyfield and Douglas for knock him out. Mike very well holds punches - he has very good chin. Even Lennox spoke: " I am surprised with quantity of strong punches accepted by the guy ". I believe, you do not doubt of power of Lewis. Ruddock have put many strongest punches to Mike, but Tyson them have sustained and have won in both fight`s.
Tyson has very good chin.

With result of that fight I agree - Foreman by KO (TKO) in 4-6.

this is a match that i believe you wouldnt actualy know who will win till its all over. Even during the match i dont think you could say, it would be a slugfest and whoever gets knocked out first. maybe if it goes to the later rounds tyson because he probably has a larger endurance, but thats about it.

how much did Forman weigh back in the days

Foreman wins this fight easily. Tyson's chin has proven to be glass, although a few people still like to say it was iron. He's been knocked out by both Holyfield and Douglas, neither of whom were devastating punchers. Foreman, on the other hand, fought several good punchers, including Smokin' Joe Frazier, and proved to have a strong chin. Also, when someone comes forward at Tyson, he generally doesn't seem to know what to do. In his prime, he looked amazing when he was pitted against small defensive guys who were terrified of him like Mike Spinks or old guys who used to be great but haven't got it anymore, like Holmes. Foreman in his prime was bigger, stronger, and hit harder than Tyson ever did.

shit, there is nothing else to say. u are right on. only i think it would be more like Foreman Frazier in there 2nd fight. than Hagler/Hearns.

I'd have to go with Iron Mike, especially if Big George fights the way he fought Muhammad Ali. Tyson would see those slow heavy hooks from George and do what Mike does best which is bob and weave and throw his own version of lightning quick hooks and uppercuts, add some side to side from Mike Tyson and Foreman would be one big tree on its way to getting chopped the f**k down! Forget about the Frazier - Foreman fight, Frazier ain't no Tyson!

it would be like Foreman/Ali, only Tyson would not be able to take the punches Ali did, and would be KO'd very quick, hell if Ali couldn't avoid those punches y do u think Tyson could???

good point Foreman. Foreman will take hard punches and get up and fight

harder.Tyson on the otherhand, has never got up from a knockdown to win

a fight. Thats what separates him from great heavyweight champions like

Ali, Foreman, Louis. Since you call yourself Foreman, has George Foreman

ever been knocked down since his comeback. I cant recall if he ever has.


nope not once, he was be hurt but never down.

He was knocked down in the Lyle fight.

He was knocked down in the Lyle fight.

that was before he retired though. he was never KD in his comeback

There's no question Foreman wins this one, in 1973 Foreman was probably the most feared fighter, a huge power punching thug. Smokin' Joe Frazier was afraid of Foreman, even a prime Tyson is less mentally strong than Frazier. He would be afraid of Foreman, after the first few big punches landed, and Tyson finds out that it's worse than he thought, that Foreman punches very hard and he can hit him either close or far away, tyson would get worn down and KO'd. A prime Tyson never faced a monster like the prime George Foreman

Foreman would destroy Tyson. It is all in the mind. There is no way that Tyson would have intimidated Big George.

Looks like Big George wins this fight.

I'm gonna play the devil's advocate and say tyson wins this fight. Tyson wins for the following reasons:

1) Young foreman didn't have the skills the older foreman acquired

2) Prime tyson was hungry, fearless, and at the top of his game.

3) george foreman fighting ron lyle left himself so exposed to punches that if tyson had been fighting him, tyson would've been
able to finish the job lyle hadn't.

4) The only way to beat prime tyson was to outbox him like douglas did.

5) Prime tyson wasn't excempt from his share of bralls.(Tucker,Green)

I'm gonna play the devil's advocate and say tyson wins this fight. Tyson wins for the following reasons:

1) Young foreman didn't have the skills the older foreman acquired

2) Prime tyson was hungry, fearless, and at the top of his game.

3) george foreman fighting ron lyle left himself so exposed to punches that if tyson had been fighting him, tyson would've been
able to finish the job lyle hadn't.

4) The only way to beat prime tyson was to outbox him like douglas did.

5) Prime tyson wasn't excempt from his share of bralls.(Tucker,Green)

I'll try the counter.

1.) Young Foreman didn't need the skills older George acquired. He would murder his opponent with his heavy blows before he even needed to use refined boxing skills.

2.) Prime Foreman was the same way...only Mike used a lot of smoke and mirrors to win. Part of his success was due to the fact that he scared his opponents shitless and severely intimidated them. George was afraid of nothig...he would see a younger Frazier coming at him and wouldn't flinch.

3.) The Foreman that fought Lyle wasn't the same Foreman that did everything before Ali. I mean, there was a huge difference and theres no way Lyle would have been alive if it were a pre-Ali Foreman. George proved he can get off the canvas and finish a fight to get the win with Lyle...something Tyson never really did.

4.) The way to beat Tyson was to survive his early onslaught and to SHOW NO FEAR. Foreman would have done both...also the bigger man sticking a stiff jab down Tysons throat was the one who prevailed. I can't see Tyson weathering those heavy shots and uppercuts on his way in to get to George.

5.) Foreman is a whole different animal than Mitch Green and Tucker. Tyson also had trouble with people who could tie him up. George disposed of brawlers rather quickly.

Saying that Tysons chin is glass is pretty stupid

Prime Tysons power, combinations and evasing skills would be too great for foreman. So I go for Tyson.

I beleive that Foreman never saw those attributes that Tyson had. He never fought against somebody who punched like Tyson, as well as someone who could dodge punches as well as Tyson. However, Foreman's fought lots of punchers and has come up victorious. I pick Foreman.

anyone who says that foreman never seen the skills, or power tyson had knows nothing of boxing. Tyson won his fights in about the same time frame as foreman, in 2 rounds or less. Actualy prior to the ali fight george never even knew what the 3rd round actualy looked like. Tyson is amazing as well, but he uses agression, he gets pissed and makes wild swings. George uses his power and prevails. Tyson would be screwed out of a win only two ways 1. His opponent was not scared shitless of him, they were just as confident or even greater than him. If i was foreman i would have no problem fighting tyson, he'd be the least of my worries.
2.He didn't have a huge advantage in punching power, if tyson knew he couldn't just wrock his opponent off his feet with a round of incredible blows then his whole gameplan was shot and thus he is screwed again.

now i dont know how well you all follow boxing, but just factor in foreman vs tyson.Tyson had more than a glass chin, i've seen him get rocked a few times, but he's no Ali. Ali took more in that fight than tysons ever taken in a lifetime of boxing. Foreman had no problem putting up a fight but Tyson tends to give up. George might of lost some power near the eight but we have to give him some credit,you try swingings your arms for 8 straight rounds.

Personally i believe foreman would win, not a huge win, but an amazing fight. Just do to the fact that foreman would be bigger than tyson, stronger than tyson, it would pretty much be a massive slugfest.

I dont know who would win but i dont think that Tyson would be scared of him at all. Prime tyson could have taken on anyone in the world without fear.

tyson would win

Prime Foreman would win within 5 rounds in my opinion. Many say that the only way to beat Mike is to move and box personally I always felt that was bull you need to hit him and hit him hard and often. People say that Foreman was slow mainly because Ali brainwashed everyone into believing so and against Ali he did look it but before that he looked a lot quicker also a lot of people that say Mike would win because George is to slow often have only seen the second career or the Ali fight. Prime Foreman was quicker enough, big enough and bad enough.

Foreman by KO 7-8.

foreman could out box him, out power him and last longer. foreman by TKO in later rounds

Tyson would win if there was a sniper in the crowd ready to shoot George before the opening bell.

It looks like Foreman is the favorite in this one winning 18 to 7.

I've seen both of them fight in their prime. I've seen their weaknesses and strenghts. If I had to pick, I would go with my gut and say Tyson.

It'd be a close match, but I'd have to give the edge to Forman. He's proven himself to be the more vernerable fighter.

Close but i would give the edge to Tyson he covered up nicely and Foreman would be hit with some real big shots early.

Tyson would hurt him to the body before ending it with a left hook.

Foreman would win this inside 3 rounds. Foreman had fought people with power around tysons own (Frazier) but tyson was never hit by anyone as hard as Foreman could hit.

here is a little logic for you people.a 28 year old holyfield hit a old george foreman with 25 straight punches never dropping or really hurting him but yet a old washed up holyfield was able to knock out tyson.heres another one foreman was able to hurt holyfield with jabs and tyson never hurt holyfield with powershots..so what does that mean?a old foreman had the better chin and a old foreman hit harder.and check this out tyson was afraid of a old foreman.not a opinion this is a fact.based off people who know boxing.they said king told tyson that a foreman fight could be big money and tyson said i am not fight they m f monster and if you like him so much you fight him....so botton line there is nothing tyson could do to scare foreman i doubt his punches could hurt foreman.lets say tyson punched a little harder than frazier which is debatable frazier never bothered foreman so i doubt tyson would..i see tyson getting ko'd in the second just like frazier but tyson would not keep getting up.

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I'd say foreman in the 3rd round by tko, because look what happend to fraizer lol

Foreman takes Tyson out in 3.

Forman all the way, he has betten people just as strong as tyson and he has more experiance.

I'm really not sure about this one. This is a tough one for me though, prime Foreman is one of the few people I think could beat a prime Tyson, just as prime Tyson is one of the few people I think could beat a prime Foreman. But I give it to Foreman in the mid rounds.

here is a little logic for you people.a 28 year old holyfield hit a old george foreman with 25 straight punches never dropping or really hurting him but yet a old washed up holyfield was able to knock out tyson.heres another one foreman was able to hurt holyfield with jabs and tyson never hurt holyfield with powershots..so what does that mean?a old foreman had the better chin and a old foreman hit harder.and check this out tyson was afraid of a old foreman.not a opinion this is a fact.based off people who know boxing.they said king told tyson that a foreman fight could be big money and tyson said i am not fight they m f monster and if you like him so much you fight him....so botton line there is nothing tyson could do to scare foreman i doubt his punches could hurt foreman.lets say tyson punched a little harder than frazier which is debatable frazier never bothered foreman so i doubt tyson would..i see tyson getting ko'd in the second just like frazier but tyson would not keep getting up.


I agree with everything you said but watch out for the backlash by tysons nuthuggers!!

any version of foreman destroys tyson

any version of foreman destroys tyson

true that:banana: :boxing:

here is a little logic for you people.a 28 year old holyfield hit a old george foreman with 25 straight punches never dropping or really hurting him but yet a old washed up holyfield was able to knock out tyson.heres another one foreman was able to hurt holyfield with jabs and tyson never hurt holyfield with powershots..so what does that mean?a old foreman had the better chin and a old foreman hit harder.and check this out tyson was afraid of a old foreman.not a opinion this is a fact.based off people who know boxing.they said king told tyson that a foreman fight could be big money and tyson said i am not fight they m f monster and if you like him so much you fight him....so botton line there is nothing tyson could do to scare foreman i doubt his punches could hurt foreman.lets say tyson punched a little harder than frazier which is debatable frazier never bothered foreman so i doubt tyson would..i see tyson getting ko'd in the second just like frazier but tyson would not keep getting up.

great post .

As much i think Tyson was brilliant at his best, i just cant see him doing much against Foreman.

Foreman has the prefect style to beat Tyson. Yet i still gotta give him a small chance.

Foreman by KO.

here is a little logic for you people.a 28 year old holyfield hit a old george foreman with 25 straight punches never dropping or really hurting him but yet a old washed up holyfield was able to knock out tyson.heres another one foreman was able to hurt holyfield with jabs and tyson never hurt holyfield with powershots..so what does that mean?a old foreman had the better chin and a old foreman hit harder.and check this out tyson was afraid of a old foreman.not a opinion this is a fact.based off people who know boxing.they said king told tyson that a foreman fight could be big money and tyson said i am not fight they m f monster and if you like him so much you fight him....so botton line there is nothing tyson could do to scare foreman i doubt his punches could hurt foreman.lets say tyson punched a little harder than frazier which is debatable frazier never bothered foreman so i doubt tyson would..i see tyson getting ko'd in the second just like frazier but tyson would not keep getting up.

LOL, I can hear Tyson saying that. But heresay is never fact.

IMO the Tyson of 96 was nothing like the Tyson of 88.
Plus a younger Foreman was actually more vunerable to being hurt. Not that his chin wasnt as good, but he was wild and careless.

Also Tysons jab may have been a big factor. He countered his opponents jabs well, and could easily have hit Foreman with it. Maybe stopping George from coming forward?

I dont know. But Foreman still wins.

Maybe stopping George from coming forward?

I've never seen anyone stop Foreman coming forward. He was like a tank going ahead. Even the 6'7" power punching Gerry Cooney found himself on the backfoot against old George.

Horrible matchup for Tyson, Prime Foreman would get him out of the ring by 5 at the most

I've never seen anyone stop Foreman coming forward. He was like a tank going ahead. Even the 6'7" power punching Gerry Cooney found himself on the backfoot against old George.

Actually, Ron Lyle had Foreman fighting on the back foot for a moment. But even that worked out good for Big George!

I think Foreman would win, but too hard to decide really. But yep, Foreman sound good for a win. The fact that he came back at 4o odd and won the belt says a lot to me.

Actually, Ron Lyle had Foreman fighting on the back foot for a moment. But even that worked out good for Big George!
only for a second or two then he was back on him i've never seen a more exciting fight

only for a second or two then he was back on him i've never seen a more exciting fight


Second or two ha ha. Bullcrap.
That was actually the first time someone really fought back and wasn't scared of Foreman. George realised this and didn't want part of lyle, for a little while hehe.

That was actually the first time someone really fought back and wasn't scared of Foreman. George realised this and didn't want part of lyle, for a little while hehe.

What do you mean man Frazier fought back against Foreman all the way. Foreman admitted to being scared of Frazier before that fight so it wasn't the first time someone fought back.

Truth being said Foreman was coming off a year of a terrible depression which prevented him form sleeping. This was his first fight after his loss to Ali so obviously ring rust and mental worry of not wanting to punch himself out again came into play in that fight.

What do you mean man Frazier fought back against Foreman all the way. Foreman admitted to being scared of Frazier before that fight so it wasn't the first time someone fought back.

Truth being said Foreman was coming off a year of a terrible depression which prevented him form sleeping. This was his first fight after his loss to Ali so obviously ring rust and mental worry of not wanting to punch himself out again came into play in that fight.

True, i should have said, that was the first time someone was catching Foreman repeatingly and kept going for it.

I somewhat disagree. I do believe Foreman wasn't in the same mindset as before, and i doubt he was out of shape. I think he was in good shape, just traumatized. BUT..Foreman had heart after Ali. The kind of Heart that makes you get back up and win. Foreman didnt have that before he lost to The Greatest(He said something like that After the Lyle fight). So i dont think he was that much past it.

BUT..Foreman had heart after Ali. The kind of Heart that makes you get back up and win. Foreman didnt have that before he lost to The Greatest(He said something like that After the Lyle fight). So i dont think he was that much past it.

True. Foreman said that if he was knocked down like that before the Ali fight that he probably wouldn't of got up thinking that he was knocked out. The Ali fight gave him somthing to prove. He improved mentally after the Ali fight but he wasn't the same in trying to take the other guy out as quickly as possible.

Foreman from any year beats Tyson from any year end of.:boxing:

Foreman from any year beats Tyson from any year end of

We Limeys love big George don't we Boxclever? :grouphug:

Iron Mike Tyson by devastating KO within 7

George has no chance of catching Iron Mike.

George was too big, too slow, and gumpy as a mofo. Iron Mike had too too much good movement from the waist, and the most punching power from either hand, unequalled

Iron Mike Tyson IS Thee Greatest of All Time

We Limeys love big George don't we Boxclever? :grouphug:


too right all respect due to the second greatest heavyweight of all time.:boxing:

Iron Mike Tyson by devastating KO within 7

George has no chance of catching Iron Mike.

George was too big, too slow, and gumpy as a mofo. Iron Mike had too too much good movement from the waist, and the most punching power from either hand, unequalled

Iron Mike Tyson IS Thee Greatest of All Time

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Iron Mike Tyson by devastating KO within 7

George has no chance of catching Iron Mike.

George was too big, too slow, and gumpy as a mofo. Iron Mike had too too much good movement from the waist, and the most punching power from either hand, unequalled

Iron Mike Tyson IS Thee Greatest of All Time


just wrong:boxing:

just wrong:boxing:

you mean too tell me that big george was NOT gumpy and lethargic as heck ? and slower than molasses ?

Iron Mike was too too too quick for him, big george would have no clue where or who the punches were coming from.

you mean too tell me that big george was NOT gumpy and lethargic as heck ? and slower than molasses ?

Iron Mike was too too too quick for him, big george would have no clue where or who the punches were coming from.

Nah prime foreman wasn't that slow for his size. Basicaly Foreman just too strong for Tyson with too strong a chin. Tyson would be hit with huge uppercuts and hooks as he tries to get on the inside, Foreman would push Tyson around and jab him back.

They said Frazier's head movements would be too quick for George but Foreman had little trouble dealing with little swarming guys like Mike.

Foreman wins in 3.

Nah prime foreman wasn't that slow for his size


so you concede that he IS slow ?

so you concede that he IS slow

Slow compared with Ali but fast compared with guys like Lewis who beat the shit out of Tyson...

Slow compared with Ali but fast compared with guys like Lewis who beat the shit out of Tyson...

oh my......George was faster than Lennox ? this is getting comical

and Iron Mike lost to Lennox before or after 88 ?

and Iron Mike lost to Lennox before or after 88 ?

Who cares, he was easily hit by someone who was older, bigger and slower than he was.

you mean too tell me that big george was NOT gumpy and lethargic as heck ? and slower than molasses ?

Iron Mike was too too too quick for him, big george would have no clue where or who the punches were coming from.

yup wrong on all counts.:boxing:

Who cares, he was easily hit by someone who was older, bigger and slower than he was.

It does matter wen Tyson fought Lewis. 88 Tyson was a much much better fighter. His movement and pressure and counter punching was a very effective defence.

Plus Lewis couldnt land the big uppercuts people thought he would.
I think a young Tyson would have a decent chance against a young wild Foreman.
But Foreman still catches him coming forward and stops Tyson.
Foreman had the chin and devastating power in everything he threw to beat Tyson.

Its all about styles.

But Foreman still catches him coming forward and stops Tyson.
Foreman had the chin and devastating power in everything he threw to beat Tyson.

Its all about styles.

Indeed, thats all I'm saying. Swarmer vs slugger.

Foreman was slower than a lot of smaller guys he faced yet he had no trouble landing on them. Frazier was quicker than Foreman yet where was Frazier's head movement and quickness when he was almost decapitated by Foreman's punches?

It's a huge generalization of a complex sport like boxing to say something like fighter A is quicker than fighter B and therefore it's impossible for fighter B to land on them. I've seen some fat awkward, slow white guys catch Tyson on his way up and they weren't half as quick as Foreman. Baldomir fights in slow motion compared to Judah yet he had no trouble landing on him. Slow people hit faster guys all the time in boxing, through timing, and through throwing enough punches that the quicker guy can't evade them all.

I've been thinking about this, and yes prime Foreman beats Tyson, but it is wrong to say any version of Foreman beats Tyson. If 90's Foreman fought prime Tyson, he would be in fact too slow, and Tyson would win a unanimous decision. Foreman had trouble with Holyfield's speed, imagine how Tyson would dazzle him. At 40+ years of age, the only punch that old Foreman can land on Tyson often is the jab, and Foreman's jab will not be enough to knock Tyson out. The right hand would be way too slow for Tyson to be nailed by it. So yes prime Foreman wins easy, but old Foreman loses a decision.

Old Foreman loses by brutal knockout. Unless he's like always, lucky, and finds a way to survive. Doubt it.

Prime vs prime goes either way. I still can't believe people are comparing this matchup to Frazier/Foreman1. First of all, Tyson was a more modern, and better version than Frazier. Faster combos, faster bobbing and weaving, more power in both hands, better chin and he had the heart when he was young. Second of all, the Frazier who fought Foreman wasn't even close to the guy who beat Ali in 15 brutal rounds. He almost died after that fight, well you know, he had severe injuries. He wasn't the same and you could see it.

Tyson fought the slugger Razor Ruddock, and beat him by the punch every single time. I am not comparing Razor to Foreman, i just see Tyson having a great chance against any slugger in history even the grossly overrated slugger that was Prime Foreman. Hey, if we're talking about prime Foreman, then we must choose the one before Ali..who didn't have heart!! No doubt that Tyson would nail him and Big George wouldn't like it at all. Tyson on the the other hand was hungry and would rather die than giving up, at a surtain age. Foreman's strenght might be the biggest factor in the fight BUT....lets look at something..

Trevor Berbick, a very strong heavyweight pushed Tyson back. Look at the beginning of the fight. If you look at this, you can picture Tyson going head to head with a prime Foreman. No im not comparing Berbick to Foreman, just listen.
I see this fight going that way aswell. Who's to say Tyson would get killed if he would have to fight on the backfoot? When Tyson was pushed back by Berbick like that, he kind of danced around him and jabbed so that he wouldn't come too close. But he fired powerfull shots at him even when he was pushed back. Its hard to explain, you'll have to watch the first round of that fight to see what i mean.
Anyway, The only thing people see in their mind is Frazier getting knocked around, bobbing and weaving, not doing shit, showing that he was shot. What if he actually took a shot with his Left hook and nailed Foreman?(At the end of the 1st round and after that) And atleast went for it. Thats what a PRIME Frazier would do. And i believe thats what a PRIME Tyson would do!
Foreman is one dimensional. He doesnt have a plan B. He's just a very strong, powerfull and pretty big Slugger. And he happened to have a shitload from those assets. Tyson on the other hand wasn't, like i explained how he kind of adapted in the Berbick fight.

Well, here's why i think Tyson would stand a good chance. I really believe it could go either way, just like Sonny Liston, prime Joe Frazier, Ike Ibeabuchi, Jack Dempsey, even David Tua and Rocky Marciano would all stand a great chance in a slugfest with Foreman74!

Old Foreman loses by brutal knockout. Unless he's like always, lucky, and finds a way to survive. Doubt it.

Prime vs prime goes either way. I still can't believe people are comparing this matchup to Frazier/Foreman1. First of all, Tyson was a more modern, and better version than Frazier. Faster combos, faster bobbing and weaving, more power in both hands, better chin and he had the heart when he was young. Second of all, the Frazier who fought Foreman wasn't even close to the guy who beat Ali in 15 brutal rounds. He almost died after that fight, well you know, he had severe injuries. He wasn't the same and you could see it.

Tyson fought the slugger Razor Ruddock, and beat him by the punch every single time. I am not comparing Razor to Foreman, i just see Tyson having a great chance against any slugger in history even the grossly overrated slugger that was Prime Foreman. Hey, if we're talking about prime Foreman, then we must choose the one before Ali..who didn't have heart!! No doubt that Tyson would nail him and Big George wouldn't like it at all. Tyson on the the other hand was hungry and would rather die than giving up, at a surtain age. Foreman's strenght might be the biggest factor in the fight BUT....lets look at something..

Trevor Berbick, a very strong heavyweight pushed Tyson back. Look at the beginning of the fight. If you look at this, you can picture Tyson going head to head with a prime Foreman. No im not comparing Berbick to Foreman, just listen.
I see this fight going that way aswell. Who's to say Tyson would get killed if he would have to fight on the backfoot? When Tyson was pushed back by Berbick like that, he kind of danced around him and jabbed so that he wouldn't come too close. But he fired powerfull shots at him even when he was pushed back. Its hard to explain, you'll have to watch the first round of that fight to see what i mean.
Anyway, The only thing people see in their mind is Frazier getting knocked around, bobbing and weaving, not doing shit, showing that he was shot. What if he actually took a shot with his Left hook and nailed Foreman?(At the end of the 1st round and after that) And atleast went for it. Thats what a PRIME Frazier would do. And i believe thats what a PRIME Tyson would do!
Foreman is one dimensional. He doesnt have a plan B. He's just a very strong, powerfull and pretty big Slugger. And he happened to have a shitload from those assets. Tyson on the other hand wasn't, like i explained how he kind of adapted in the Berbick fight.

Well, here's why i think Tyson would stand a good chance. I really believe it could go either way, just like Sonny Liston, prime Joe Frazier, Ike Ibeabuchi, Jack Dempsey, even David Tua and Rocky Marciano would all stand a great chance in a slugfest with Foreman74!

I was agreeing with parts but you ruined it with that last paragraph.

I was agreeing with parts but you ruined it with that last paragraph.

Haha. Ok, maybe some of those dont stand a ''great'' chance, but most of them do imo.

Old Foreman loses by brutal knockout. Unless he's like always, lucky, and finds a way to survive. Doubt it.

Prime vs prime goes either way. I still can't believe people are comparing this matchup to Frazier/Foreman1. First of all, Tyson was a more modern, and better version than Frazier. Faster combos, faster bobbing and weaving, more power in both hands, better chin and he had the heart when he was young. Second of all, the Frazier who fought Foreman wasn't even close to the guy who beat Ali in 15 brutal rounds. He almost died after that fight, well you know, he had severe injuries. He wasn't the same and you could see it.

Tyson fought the slugger Razor Ruddock, and beat him by the punch every single time. I am not comparing Razor to Foreman, i just see Tyson having a great chance against any slugger in history even the grossly overrated slugger that was Prime Foreman. Hey, if we're talking about prime Foreman, then we must choose the one before Ali..who didn't have heart!! No doubt that Tyson would nail him and Big George wouldn't like it at all. Tyson on the the other hand was hungry and would rather die than giving up, at a surtain age. Foreman's strenght might be the biggest factor in the fight BUT....lets look at something..

Trevor Berbick, a very strong heavyweight pushed Tyson back. Look at the beginning of the fight. If you look at this, you can picture Tyson going head to head with a prime Foreman. No im not comparing Berbick to Foreman, just listen.
I see this fight going that way aswell. Who's to say Tyson would get killed if he would have to fight on the backfoot? When Tyson was pushed back by Berbick like that, he kind of danced around him and jabbed so that he wouldn't come too close. But he fired powerfull shots at him even when he was pushed back. Its hard to explain, you'll have to watch the first round of that fight to see what i mean.
Anyway, The only thing people see in their mind is Frazier getting knocked around, bobbing and weaving, not doing shit, showing that he was shot. What if he actually took a shot with his Left hook and nailed Foreman?(At the end of the 1st round and after that) And atleast went for it. Thats what a PRIME Frazier would do. And i believe thats what a PRIME Tyson would do!
Foreman is one dimensional. He doesnt have a plan B. He's just a very strong, powerfull and pretty big Slugger. And he happened to have a shitload from those assets. Tyson on the other hand wasn't, like i explained how he kind of adapted in the Berbick fight.

Well, here's why i think Tyson would stand a good chance. I really believe it could go either way, just like Sonny Liston, prime Joe Frazier, Ike Ibeabuchi, Jack Dempsey, even David Tua and Rocky Marciano would all stand a great chance in a slugfest with Foreman74!




foreman would deal with tyson easily when he was young, tyson may be able to hit him as he came in but then foreman would push him off and pound him this would happen several times untill tyson took too much.

an old foreman actually has better defense he would likely take less blows than a younger but also deliver fewer in this matchup i would go 50/50

your post is nice and long but when your saying a prime frasier could have taken out foreman its just plain wrong and stupid he may have landed a couple more left hooks but the hooks foreman did take he shook off and kept coming, frasier couldn't get close enough to throw short hooks and his long hooks arent as explosive.

niether dempsey or rocky would stand a good chance they would have a helll of a time trying to get close enough to land and would get pounded in the meantime.

tua was powerful but his chin was nopt great he would stand infront of foreman and get cut down in 3

whats funny is that i bet if you asked tyson who would win he would say foreman!

foreman would deal with tyson easily when he was young, tyson may be able to hit him as he came in but then foreman would push him off and pound him this would happen several times untill tyson took too much.

an old foreman actually has better defense he would likely take less blows than a younger but also deliver fewer in this matchup i would go 50/50

your post is nice and long but when your saying a prime frasier could have taken out foreman its just plain wrong and stupid he may have landed a couple more left hooks but the hooks foreman did take he shook off and kept coming, frasier couldn't get close enough to throw short hooks and his long hooks arent as explosive.

niether dempsey or rocky would stand a good chance they would have a helll of a time trying to get close enough to land and would get pounded in the meantime.

tua was powerful but his chin was nopt great he would stand infront of foreman and get cut down in 3

whats funny is that i bet if you asked tyson who would win he would say foreman!

Whats funny is that you said David Tua does NOT have a good chin? hahahaha. Seriously man, i dont think i should be responding to your post after reading that. Oh my God.

Old Foreman loses by brutal knockout. Unless he's like always, lucky, and finds a way to survive. Doubt it.

Prime vs prime goes either way. I still can't believe people are comparing this matchup to Frazier/Foreman1. First of all, Tyson was a more modern, and better version than Frazier. Faster combos, faster bobbing and weaving, more power in both hands, better chin and he had the heart when he was young. Second of all, the Frazier who fought Foreman wasn't even close to the guy who beat Ali in 15 brutal rounds. He almost died after that fight, well you know, he had severe injuries. He wasn't the same and you could see it.

Tyson fought the slugger Razor Ruddock, and beat him by the punch every single time. I am not comparing Razor to Foreman, i just see Tyson having a great chance against any slugger in history even the grossly overrated slugger that was Prime Foreman. Hey, if we're talking about prime Foreman, then we must choose the one before Ali..who didn't have heart!! No doubt that Tyson would nail him and Big George wouldn't like it at all. Tyson on the the other hand was hungry and would rather die than giving up, at a surtain age. Foreman's strenght might be the biggest factor in the fight BUT....lets look at something..

Trevor Berbick, a very strong heavyweight pushed Tyson back. Look at the beginning of the fight. If you look at this, you can picture Tyson going head to head with a prime Foreman. No im not comparing Berbick to Foreman, just listen.
I see this fight going that way aswell. Who's to say Tyson would get killed if he would have to fight on the backfoot? When Tyson was pushed back by Berbick like that, he kind of danced around him and jabbed so that he wouldn't come too close. But he fired powerfull shots at him even when he was pushed back. Its hard to explain, you'll have to watch the first round of that fight to see what i mean.
Anyway, The only thing people see in their mind is Frazier getting knocked around, bobbing and weaving, not doing shit, showing that he was shot. What if he actually took a shot with his Left hook and nailed Foreman?(At the end of the 1st round and after that) And atleast went for it. Thats what a PRIME Frazier would do. And i believe thats what a PRIME Tyson would do!
Foreman is one dimensional. He doesnt have a plan B. He's just a very strong, powerfull and pretty big Slugger. And he happened to have a shitload from those assets. Tyson on the other hand wasn't, like i explained how he kind of adapted in the Berbick fight.

Well, here's why i think Tyson would stand a good chance. I really believe it could go either way, just like Sonny Liston, prime Joe Frazier, Ike Ibeabuchi, Jack Dempsey, even David Tua and Rocky Marciano would all stand a great chance in a slugfest with Foreman74!

Actually, Frazier did nail Foreman with vicious left hooks, and foreman walked through them, in fact it was Frazier fighting back that prompted foreman to beat him down like he did. Foreman said he jumped all over frazier cause he was scared frazier would tear his head off, so that's why everytime frazier got up from a knockdown, foreman was right on him trying to keep him down, and the same thing would go for tyson, although, foreman will have more trouble with Tyson than frazier.

Also, foreman was never knocked down in his comeback, so what makes tyou think tyson would knock him out? foreman fought harder punchers than tyson during his comeback and stood up to their best shots, so i doubt tyson would knock him out. Like I said, a decision for tyson is what will happen, but a knockout is out of the question.

Also, foreman was never knocked down in his comeback, so what makes tyou think tyson would knock him out? foreman fought harder punchers than tyson during his comeback and stood up to their best shots, so i doubt tyson would knock him out. Like I said, a decision for tyson is what will happen, but a knockout is out of the question.

He may have fought harder punches(in his comeback) and didnt get ko'd, but he didnt fight more EFFECTIVE AND BETTER punchers than Tyson. A stoppage win is more likely to be done by Tyson, instead of Gerry Cooney who might be the harder puncher, but the shittier puncher. I believe Tyson would ko old Big George because he's imo the most effective HW puncher ever.

He may have fought harder punches(in his comeback) and didnt get ko'd, but he didnt fight more EFFECTIVE AND BETTER punchers than Tyson. A stoppage win is more likely to be done by Tyson, instead of Gerry Cooney who might be the harder puncher, but the shittier puncher. I believe Tyson would ko old Big George because he's imo the most effective HW puncher ever.

It's hard to envision Tyson KO'ing any version of Foreman. Foremans chin was solid and he wasn't even knocked down in his comeback. It is possible for Tyson to win decisions you know. Holyfield filled Foreman with combinations and George never hit the canvas. Foreman took clean shots from Cooney and Morrison and remained standing. I think Tysons too small to Ko foreman.
And I would say Joe Louis is the most effective heavyweight puncher ever. That guys compact shots really messed guys up.

Simply put, Tyson is tailor made for Foreman. That style would never work against Foreman. Even a prime Tyson would get cought by upper cuts. Foreman would tear him apart. Now old George Foreman I doubt would be able to take Tyson. That version of Foreman was too slow.

It's hard to envision Tyson KO'ing any version of Foreman. Foremans chin was solid and he wasn't even knocked down in his comeback. It is possible for Tyson to win decisions you know. Holyfield filled Foreman with combinations and George never hit the canvas. Foreman took clean shots from Cooney and Morrison and remained standing. I think Tysons too small to Ko foreman.
And I would say Joe Louis is the most effective heavyweight puncher ever. That guys compact shots really messed guys up.

Holyfield doesn't even compare to Tyson when it comes to power punching and combo punching. Tyson was the most effectivce puncher ever from the heavyweights. Just look at his ko's like vs Thomas.

Actually you're both wrong. Sonny Liston is the most effective puncher.

Best puncher

1) Liston
2) Tyson
3) Louis

Heaviest puncher

1) Foreman
2) Shavers
3) Liston

Actually you're both wrong. Sonny Liston is the most effective puncher.

Best puncher

1) Liston
2) Tyson
3) Louis

Heaviest puncher

1) Foreman
2) Shavers
3) Liston

i cannot believe you put liston as number 1 puncher i know he fought ali but tyson and louis were far more effective IMO and liston is certainly not a top three heaviest puncher i dont think hes even top ten!!

tyson is quite possibly the most effective puncher ever he had:
speed, power, precision and endles combos tyson could have been one of the best ever if he was a little smarter

i cannot believe you put liston as number 1 puncher i know he fought ali but tyson and louis were far more effective IMO and liston is certainly not a top three heaviest puncher i dont think hes even top ten!!

tyson is quite possibly the most effective puncher ever he had:
speed, power, precision and endles combos tyson could have been one of the best ever if he was a little smarter

liston had quick hands and great technique, and more power than Louis or tyson, therefore he is the best puncher.

liston had quick hands and great technique, and more power than Louis or tyson, therefore he is the best puncher.

No no, thats the wrong reason dude. Its because he fought Ali. That is why he is the most effective puncher ever even though he couldn't get rid of a 195lb fighter for 3 rounds long.

No no, thats the wrong reason dude. Its because he fought Ali. That is why he is the most effective puncher ever even though he couldn't get rid of a 195lb fighter for 3 rounds long.

oh, so liston has to ko everybody?:rolleyes:

oh, so liston has to ko everybody?:rolleyes:

That doesnt have anything to do with my post.

That doesnt have anything to do with my post.

Well, anyway Liston is a very underrated fighter. i foyu watch some of his fights, he would knock people into next week with his jab alone.

foreman would deal with tyson easily when he was young, tyson may be able to hit him as he came in but then foreman would push him off and pound him this would happen several times untill tyson took too much.
an old foreman actually has better defense he would likely take less blows than a younger but also deliver fewer in this matchup i would go 50/50

your post is nice and long but when your saying a prime frasier could have taken out foreman its just plain wrong and stupid he may have landed a couple more left hooks but the hooks foreman did take he shook off and kept coming, frasier couldn't get close enough to throw short hooks and his long hooks arent as explosive.

niether dempsey or rocky would stand a good chance they would have a helll of a time trying to get close enough to land and would get pounded in the meantime.

tua was powerful but his chin was nopt great he would stand infront of foreman and get cut down in 3

whats funny is that i bet if you asked tyson who would win he would say foreman!

im guessing u havnt seen tyson fight to know that his defense was superb

It's hard to envision Tyson KO'ing any version of Foreman. Foremans chin was solid and he wasn't even knocked down in his comeback. It is possible for Tyson to win decisions you know. Holyfield filled Foreman with combinations and George never hit the canvas. Foreman took clean shots from Cooney and Morrison and remained standing. I think Tysons too small to Ko foreman.
And I would say Joe Louis is the most effective heavyweight puncher ever. That guys compact shots really messed guys up.

but he was rocked a few times during and after his prime.by two guys i know of

Actually you're both wrong. Sonny Liston is the most effective puncher.

Best puncher

1) Liston
2) Tyson
3) Louis

Heaviest puncher

1) Foreman
2) Shavers
3) Liston



u always hyping ali's opponents.best puncher liston?HA! 3RD heaviest puncher?liston? HA!

u always hyping ali's opponents.best puncher liston?HA! 3RD heaviest puncher?liston? HA!

It's true.

Young George Foreman has some of the ugliest and unrefined form I have ever seen in boxing. Mike Tyson was undoudtedly a more skilled fighter. The last thing a fighter looses is his punch. If the only thing that made Mike Tyson heavyweight champion was his punch, he would still be champion. it is his depleted skill that has been his downfall a skill, a skill that I believe would have subdued George Foreman. Tyson can take punishment when he wants to, but when he dosen't, he can't. As someone has already mentioned there was the second Razor Ruddock fight. I don't know ANY heavyweight including Muhammed Ali, that could have taken all the punishment that Tyson took in the Lennox Lewis fight. Lewis has knocked out top heavy weights with single punches. Tyson took that punishment round after round. The actually issue here funny enough, is that Tyson lost his will and drive to win when Cus D'amato , his de facto Daddy and trainer died. He fought to please Cus. As he once said while Cus was still alive,to an interviewer "If my trainer tells me i can beat them than i know i can beat them ". The ferocious Tyson of yore was simply a boy trying to please his Daddy. Ofcourse for D'amato, Tyson was his last big chance at greatness. When D'amato died things began going down hill in every area for him. Don king swoops in and its curtains. Anway back to my point. Based on the commentary above, i have to go with Mike Tyson at his prime against Foreman. Too much skill, and Foreman would be completely open for Tyson. .

It's true.

it really isn't!

Young George Foreman has some of the ugliest and unrefined form I have ever seen in boxing. Mike Tyson was undoudtedly a more skilled fighter. The last thing a fighter looses is his punch. If the only thing that made Mike Tyson heavyweight champion was his punch, he would still be champion. it is his depleted skill that has been his downfall a skill, a skill that I believe would have subdued George Foreman. Tyson can take punishment when he wants to, but when he dosen't, he can't. As someone has already mentioned there was the second Razor Ruddock fight. I don't know ANY heavyweight including Muhammed Ali, that could have taken all the punishment that Tyson took in the Lennox Lewis fight. Lewis has knocked out top heavy weights with single punches. Tyson took that punishment round after round. The actually issue here funny enough, is that Tyson lost his will and drive to win when Cus D'amato , his de facto Daddy and trainer died. He fought to please Cus. As he once said while Cus was still alive,to an interviewer "If my trainer tells me i can beat them than i know i can beat them ". The ferocious Tyson of yore was simply a boy trying to please his Daddy. Ofcourse for D'amato, Tyson was his last big chance at greatness. When D'amato died things began going down hill in every area for him. Don king swoops in and its curtains. Anway back to my point. Based on the commentary above, i have to go with Mike Tyson at his prime against Foreman. Too much skill, and Foreman would be completely open for Tyson. .


Once again this is probably the same guy making another alt.


I don't know ANY heavyweight including Muhammed Ali, that could have taken all the punishment that Tyson took in the Lennox Lewis fight

George Chuvalo, Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Gregorial Parolta, Sonny Liston, Rocky Marciano, James Toney - the list continues....

Tyson nuthuggers are the most amusing. I think Yaman is the only one who has used actual facts and knowledge in these arguments.

Once again this is probably the same guy making another alt.




George Chuvalo, Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Gregorial Parolta, Sonny Liston, Rocky Marciano, James Toney - the list continues....

Tyson nuthuggers are the most amusing. I think Yaman is the only one who has used actual facts and knowledge in these arguments.

haha. and i dont? im a huuuuuuge tyson fan, but in no way dulusional

haha. and i dont? im a huuuuuuge tyson fan, but in no way dulusional

I don't really consider you a nuthugger versatile.

Do you think im a nuthugger? Whaha

Do you think im a nuthugger? Whaha

Goes without saying Yaman. But your the "smart" nuthugger.

after all George achieved in boxing i still find it laughable that people don't rate him highly enough.:boxing:

A nuthugger? lol you don't even know me. I was never even a fervent tyson fan. I think Ali in his prime would have murdered Tyson. I gave you facts, it is you who have given no facts. It is a fact that Foreman in his youth was one of the most unrefined and unskilled boxers in recent history. I also argued that if it was only Tyson's punch that made him a champion then he would have never lost the title (or he would atleast be a top contender) because the punch is the last thing to go. You have simply ignored my facts and accused me of not providing any. You may not like Mike Tyson but let us be honest for a second. Tyson was trained by Cus D'amato in the same kind of evasive tactics that we saw in Floyd Patterson, and he utilized them effectively early on in his career. It is George Foreman that was nothing but a punch, how could anyone argue with that. I don't even think that older Foreman would if he was reflecting on his youth. It is a simple equation. They both punched hard, but Tyson had defense, and Foreman didn't, therefore...Tyson wins.

I think Ali in his prime would have murdered Tyson. I gave you facts, it is you who have given no facts. It is a fact that Foreman in his youth was one of the most unrefined and unskilled boxers in recent history. I also argued that if it was only Tyson's punch that made him a champion then he would have never lost the title (or he would atleast be a top contender) because the punch is the last thing to go. You have simply ignored my facts and accused me of not providing any.

Bolded statements are all opinions...

Bolded statements are all opinions...

Not that Foreman wasn't skilled. Because he wasn't. At all..
Just gifted. Only thing stranger than seeing Nicolai Valuev getting knocked down, is someone actually pushing George Foreman around.

Yeah, I agree that he really didnt have much skill, but he's far from "the least skilled boxer in recent history".

Foreman was rocked and knocked down twice by Lyle in his prime and rocked by Lakusta during his comeback. Those are two specific fights I remember where he was hurt, and not by exhaustion either. He had a tough chin but not the best ever. I could see Foreman getting knocked out by Tyson if he gets caught just right but I don't think that's the most likely scenario. I see Tyson getting hit by that ramrod jab and taking some big uppercuts and hooks to the face. Frazier had a pretty good bob and weave but it didn't help him. At 5'10" I don't see Tyson faring very well. It's very hard to move in on Foreman because of the jab and his deceptive quick hands and once he's inside, Tyson doesn't have the strength in the clinch or the skills there to do anything. Instead he's constantly trying to get inside on Foreman and constantly having to get by Foreman's sledgehammer fists to score with his own shots. Foreman was no slow poke either, he was pretty damn fast and could hurt you regardless of where he hit you. He would likely miss Tyson often, but would really shake him up with whatever hits.

I've said it once, I'll say it again: if any swarmer beats Foreman it's Dempsey. Near the same height, good reach, better handspeed, and can actually retreat and move laterally well.

Tyson, Marciano, Frazier, get smashed up prettly badly. MOST LIKELY. Doesn't mean it's impossible that Tyson hurts Foreman with a vicious left hook or right hand and finishes him off in short order when he gets up, or Marciano makes an omelette out of his brain with one good right hand that lands perfectly, but stylistically I see Foreman beating these shorter guys.

I can see the fight going either way. I personally think that Foreman would win, but if Tyson won, I wouldn't be shocked.

Oh excuse me. What I meant was he was one of the most unskilled TOP fighters in recent history. Obviously there are plenty of unskilled fighters in the world. It is also, like I said, a logical fact that if a man is winning because of his punch alone, as long as the punch does not go he will still win, or atleast be a top contender, unless a completely new cast of boxing contenders comes into the equation. That is not the case here. Who honestly does not believe that Tyson would have devastated Danny williams during his youth? It is a fact, Tyson relied upon a certain degree of skill when he was younger, skill that he has lost long ago. Kid Achilles makes some good points. But how easy would it have been for Foreman to land effective jabs on a shorter bobbing and weaving Mike Tyson. However I think the uppercuts could have given him problems, you are right about that (shades of the lennox lewis fight). On the other hand, we are talking about how quick George Foreman was, but we forget how quick Tyson was. There is the quickness of the old Tyson jab, the one that knocked Lennox Lewis back on his heels in the first round. What would Foreman do with that jab in his face constantly; if this was PEAK Mike Tyson he could have done that consistently. His other punches were quick as well. The best chance I think Foreman would have would be those uppercuts, but unlike Lennox Lewis who used the same tactic, Foreman does not have a boxer-puncher's defensive skills (And we wouldn't be dealing with a deteriorated Mike Tyson). It is true that Foreman would be muscling Tyson around in that ring, if Tyson could take that psychologically, it would still be a heck of a fight; a fight that I think I still am going to have to go with Tyson in. I don't know how good Fraizer's Bob and Weave game was, he pretty much moved randomly just hoping to avoid something, and sometimes he didn't even move. Even the Sports Century television episode devoted to him described his fighting philosophy as "you can hit me five times if i can hit you once". (highlighting ofcourse how hard of a puncher he was). Hey i am a guy that usually prefers the classical veteran fighter but I can't in this case.

In the second half of his career Foreman used the crab armed defence and whilst he was using this defence i can see Tyson going to the body and wedging uppercuts throught the defence. foreman did not throw punches for a whole round he had moments every once in a while and i just see Tyson punishing him until the referee stopped the fight. But we will never no....

foremans style was very different to any othe rboxer this m,ade him very deceptive his punches were different. they didn't come straight nor did they hook they came in halfway between this coupled with his strength made it very difficult for someone to fight him

88 tyson vs 73 foreman= foreman 3-5 round stoppage
94 tyson vs 73 foreman= foreman byt very early stoppage if tyson showed up!
88 tyson vs 91 foreman = tyson his head movement would make foreman very uncomfortable ala morrison

95 tyson vs 95 foreman = at this stage tyson was a puncher and he would be out gunned by a slow but effective foreman

Tyson vs Foreman is like Lion vs Tiger. Foreman is like the Lion, just brawling with brute strenght. Tyson is like the Tiger, striking with accuracy.

yes and i think that the extremely quick jab in the face of Foreman would have also pissed him off, and caused him to brawl, which would have made him more vulnerable to the more acurate puncher here. Tyson would have to make sure that he didn't stay on the inside too long, just long enough to land. If he did that, Foreman would have fewer chances for the upper cut and apart from the uppercut, I don't really see what punching opportunities Foreman would have in this fight.

come on people, are you all drunk or on drugs ?

big george has no chance in hell of ever coming close to beating Iron Mike Tyson. Chrissy Martin has a better chance of beating Tito Ortiz

I've said it once, I'll say it again: if any swarmer beats Foreman it's Dempsey. Near the same height, good reach, better handspeed, and can actually retreat and move laterally well.

Tyson has the best chance , not Dempsey. Better chin, power, handspeed, footspeed, and defense.

come on people, are you all drunk or on drugs ?

big george has no chance in hell of ever coming close to beating Iron Mike Tyson. Chrissy Martin has a better chance of beating Tito Ortiz

You sir, are an idiot.

You sir, are an idiot.

so whats your point ? ...............and thats Mr to you

so whats your point ? ...............and thats Mr to you

This is a style mismatch. Tyson has no chance.

come on people, are you all drunk or on drugs ?

big george has no chance in hell of ever coming close to beating Iron Mike Tyson. Chrissy Martin has a better chance of beating Tito Ortiz

Get off the prozak.

You sir, are an idiot.

i am in total agrrement with you!

Get off the prozak.

Yeah, lol.:rofl:

i am in total agrrement with you!

and what ?????? you want a bozo button ? scooby doo cookie ?

The idea that either of these fighters dosen't have a chance in this fight can be born only of ignorance or bias.

Mike Tysons chance would be to come in under George Foremans reach and hurt him with fast, accurate shots to the head. He was faster than Foreman, and with better skill. It is not impossible for a prime Tyson to hurt and finish the crude fighting machine that was 1973 Foreman.

On the other side, Foreman would have the advantage when it comes to size, strenght, heart and sheer punching power. In addition, he could take a punch fairly well in his day, and I have some difficulty seeing Tyson stopping him early. This could spell disaster for Tyson. When faced with someone stronger and more powerful than himself, someone who will not back down, Tyson would probably crumble within a few rounds.

I see Foreman winning in brutal fashion inside of 5 rounds.

George Foreman by ko5.

I agree with what everone has to say. What people dont realize is that tyson was 18, 19 , 20 years old knoocking men out who almost always were opponents of a larger frame. I believe Tysons head movements and footwork would be far superior for foreman. But I also believe Foremans punching power would discourage Mike.

Keeping in mind we are thinking about both fighters in their prime I think it could go both ways. For a 20 year old, George would definantly respect Tyson's power and be hurt.

As for Tyson's defeats, he barely trained for Douglas and had all kinds of psychological issues. Every person after douglas tyson took a 5 year jail sentence during the years that would have ultimatley proved his greatness. He came out of jail with major Psychological issues and poor training habits.

anyways I think tyson would win by referee stoppage in the fourth round.

I agree with what everone has to say. What people dont realize is that tyson was 18, 19 , 20 years old knoocking men out who almost always were opponents of a larger frame. I believe Tysons head movements and footwork would be far superior for foreman. But I also believe Foremans punching power would discourage Mike.

Keeping in mind we are thinking about both fighters in their prime I think it could go both ways. For a 20 year old, George would definantly respect Tyson's power and be hurt.

As for Tyson's defeats, he barely trained for Douglas and had all kinds of psychological issues. Every person after douglas tyson took a 5 year jail sentence during the years that would have ultimatley proved his greatness. He came out of jail with major Psychological issues and poor training habits.

anyways I think tyson would win by referee stoppage in the fourth round.


......thank you

......thank you

Both of you are retarded.

Both of you are retarded.

They are most probably the same bloke. All of those who have said Tyson have had less than 10 posts when they appear in the thread with bullshit.

Both of you are retarded.

coming from you huh, Unbelievably funny.

Foreman

too much chin

too much power

too much of a bully

throw in tyson's style

Foreman by KO

Tyson would stand a better chance against other past HW greats, but not against Foreman

and what ?????? you want a bozo button ? scooby doo cookie ?

i Rarely agree with butterfly! you sir are an idiot!

They are most probably the same bloke. All of those who have said Tyson have had less than 10 posts when they appear in the thread with bullshit.


what the phuck are you trying to say ? do you speak english ?

what the phuck are you trying to say ? do you speak english ?

Indeed I do. I'll teach you if you want?

Foreman would eat him alive.

The only time Foreman saw anything as fast as Tyson was Ali, Who by coinsedence made the slower fighter look bad. "for sake of a better word"
Prime Tyson did have a good chin. And excellent Defense. I don't need to mention his power and agressive atack, which was completely different than that of Joe Frazier. Who faught Foreman the wrong way. Tyson I think would have an easy time slipping and ducking Foremans punches. I think his explosive counters would wear on big George And eventualy he would fall apart. Ref stops the fight. I love Foreman. Love his character, Demeanor even his grill. But While I know he is amongst the hardest punchers ever. He iwas also the deffinition of most power punchers "slow" Tyson you should admit was amazingly fast and aggresive. How do you pick that to lose so easily?

what the phuck are you trying to say ? do you speak english ?

I'm very much insulted by that post.

The only time Foreman saw anything as fast as Tyson was Ali, Who by coinsedence made the slower fighter look bad. "for sake of a better word"
Prime Tyson did have a good chin. And excellent Defense. I don't need to mention his power and agressive atack, which was completely different than that of Joe Frazier. Who faught Foreman the wrong way. Tyson I think would have an easy time slipping and ducking Foremans punches. I think his explosive counters would wear on big George And eventualy he would fall apart. Ref stops the fight. I love Foreman. Love his character, Demeanor even his grill. But While I know he is amongst the hardest punchers ever. He iwas also the deffinition of most power punchers "slow" Tyson you should admit was amazingly fast and aggresive. How do you pick that to lose so easily?

stylewise Cus D'Amato viewed it a bit differently and used to show Frazier-Foreman to Tyson to warn him on the problems attached to moving forward bobbing and weaving taking the fight to fighters like Foreman

stylewise Cus D'Amato viewed it a bit differently and used to show Frazier-Foreman to Tyson to warn him on the problems attached to moving forward bobbing and weaving taking the fight to fighters like Foreman

The fact that a fighter with Tyson's style could't beat Foreman was pounded into Mikes head by Cus. With Tyson's metality he would have had a hard time beating the Foreman of 91 let alone 73. Mike would be intimidated.

The fact that a fighter with Tyson's style could't beat Foreman was pounded into Mikes head by Cus. With Tyson's metality he would have had a hard time beating the Foreman of 91 let alone 73. Mike would be intimidated.

That is just speculation with no proof to back it up.
hey, Foreman was scared of Quarry and Shavers, he ducked them, since there is so little evidence, should we also determin a fight based on that even though it barely has any proof?
Or maybe you had a cup of thea with Tyson and he told you all about his feelings towards Foreman, being scared of him.

That is just speculation with no proof to back it up.
hey, Foreman was scared of Quarry and Shavers, he ducked them, since there is so little evidence, should we also determin a fight based on that even though it barely has any proof?
Or maybe you had a cup of thea with Tyson and he told you all about his feelings towards Foreman, being scared of him.

Apparently Tyson ducked Shavers as well in 1987!

I forgot to mention Larry Holmes. Foreman was scared to death to fight him. I judge this by a couple of stories i heard, who cares if there is no REAL proof.

That is just speculation with no proof to back it up.
hey, Foreman was scared of Quarry and Shavers, he ducked them, since there is so little evidence, should we also determin a fight based on that even though it barely has any proof?
Or maybe you had a cup of thea with Tyson and he told you all about his feelings towards Foreman, being scared of him.

Good point since I was going on what I heard. I can never understand though why Foreman openly ducked Quarry and has called him the best fighter to never win a title. I am not a Tyson hater by the way, I have always loved the guy.

I can never understand though why Foreman openly ducked Quarry and has called him the best fighter to never win a title.

There was a rumour that suggested that Foreman stated Quarry as the greatest fighter to never win a title in order to please white boxing fans. There was no proof of this although Foreman was unpopular during the 70's and he was eager to try and get some fans.

There was a rumour that suggested that Foreman stated Quarry as the greatest fighter to never win a title in order to please white boxing fans. There was no proof of this although Foreman was unpopular during the 70's and he was eager to try and get some fans.

Foreman is a shrewd guy, so I wouldn't put it past him. Quarry was a talent but greatest fighter to never win a title is streching it.

stylewise Cus D'Amato viewed it a bit differently and used to show Frazier-Foreman to Tyson to warn him on the problems attached to moving forward bobbing and weaving taking the fight to fighters like Foreman

False..
he showed many films of Dempsey to help refine that style with Tyson.

Indeed I do. I'll teach you if you want?

no, teach the guy in the white house

I'm very much insulted by that post.

oh my...........tuff shit

False..
he showed many films of Dempsey to help refine that style with Tyson.

Bill Cayton had the biggest fight collecting in the world at one time and I am sure Tyson and Cus watched some Foreman fights.

Bill Cayton had the biggest fight collecting in the world at one time and I am sure Tyson and Cus watched some Foreman fights.

Oh I don't doubt that at all, In fact I everybody knows Tyson has an unreal account of past greats and there bouts. The guy that posted before me was false in saying that Cus tried to manipulate Tysons style with films of Frazier and Foreman. Thats just not true. Tyson himself has stated his style was refined by films of Dempsey. By Cus's advice. This came from his mouth. But yeah he spent a great deal of time watching all of the greats. Listen to him talk about it its crazy he knows all of the specs on the fights. Dates length of fight what happened in what round. It's probably the one thing Tyson is an intellectual about.

Oh I don't doubt that at all, In fact I everybody knows Tyson has an unreal account of past greats and there bouts. The guy that posted before me was false in saying that Cus tried to manipulate Tysons style with films of Frazier and Foreman. Thats just not true. Tyson himself has stated his style was refined by films of Dempsey. By Cus's advice. This came from his mouth. But yeah he spent a great deal of time watching all of the greats. Listen to him talk about it its crazy he knows all of the specs on the fights. Dates length of fight what happened in what round. It's probably the one thing Tyson is an intellectual about.

Oh I misunderstood.Yeah he patterned himself after Dempsey.

If u think tyson's chin is glass u don't know shit about boxing. Douglas won because tyson was gassed he'd been hit SO many times. If he had taken that combo in the 1st round hed of been fine. As for holyfield that was also accumilation. Watch the Lewis fight he takes massive punches without being hurt.

If u think tyson's chin is glass u don't know shit about boxing. Douglas won because tyson was gassed he'd been hit SO many times. If he had taken that combo in the 1st round hed of been fine. As for holyfield that was also accumilation. Watch the Lewis fight he takes massive punches without being hurt.


As I said before, no modern heavyweight (1960's and up) I know could have taken the punishment that Tyson took in that lewis fight.

As I said before, no modern heavyweight (1960's and up) I know could have taken the punishment that Tyson took in that lewis fight.

ali could have
frasier could have
holyfield could have
foreman could have
chuvalo could have

ali could have
frasier could have
holyfield could have
foreman could have
chuvalo could have

And Liston and Holmes

ali could have
frasier could have
holyfield could have
foreman could have
chuvalo could have

And exactly what evidence do we have of this? On what occasion, for example, did Ali take 8 non-stop completely one sided rounds of hard punches to the head from a 6 foot 260 pound heavyweight? Ali wouldn't have allowed himself to take that kind of punishment. Holyfeild got stopped by punches from JAMES TONEY! and don't tell me he was past his prime, so was Tyson in the lewis fight.

And exactly what evidence do we have of this? On what occasion, for example, did Ali take 8 non-stop completely one sided rounds of hard punches

eh- hem
A very past his prime Ali took 15 rounds of hard punches from Earnie Shavers (Hardest puncher of all time) and came back to win. Ali fought 41 hard round with Joe Frazier and recieved huge amounts of punishment. Ali took 9 rouns of head punches from a prime Larry Holmes and never went down. Ali only hit Holmes 10 times in the whole fight.
8 rounds of pounding from Foreman, a lot of hits from Lyle.

Remember Ali in the 70's layed on the ropes and took intentianal punishment for whole fights.

eh- hem
Ali took 15 rounds of hard punches from Earnie Shavers (Hardest puncher of all time) and came back to win. Ali fought 41 hard round with Joe Frazier and recieved huge amounts of punishment. Ali took 9 rouns of head punches from a prime Larry Holmes and never went down. Ali only hit Holmes 10 times in the whole fight.
8 rounds of pounding from Foreman, a lot of hits from Lyle.

Remember Ali in the 70's layed on the ropes and took intentianal punishment for whole fights.

spot on southpaw!

eh- hem
Ali took 15 rounds of hard punches from Earnie Shavers (Hardest puncher of all time) and came back to win. Ali fought 41 hard round with Joe Frazier and recieved huge amounts of punishment. Ali took 9 rouns of head punches from a prime Larry Holmes and never went down. Ali only hit Holmes 10 times in the whole fight.
8 rounds of pounding from Foreman, a lot of hits from Lyle.

Remember Ali in the 70's layed on the ropes and took intentianal punishment for whole fights.

And how much of Ali's rope a dope consisted of taking CLEAN blows to the head from Foreman? If it had, he would have met the same fate as the rest of Foreman's opponents. this was Ali as the defensive genius, that was the whole point. The clean blows taken by Ali to the head in the fights with Fraizer were extremely intermittent, his defense was too good for it to be constant. The only good example of ONE SIDED NON STOP PUNISHMENT you gave was the Holmes fight. Ali did prove himself as having a durable chin near the level of tyson in the lewis fight there, i have to give you that.

And how much of Ali's rope a dope consisted of taking CLEAN blows to the head from Foreman? If it had, he would have met the same fate as the rest of Foreman's opponents. this was Ali as the defensive genius, that was the whole point. The clean blows taken by Ali in the fights with Fraizer were extremely intermittent, his defense was to good for it to be constant. The only good example of ONE SIDED NON STOP PUNISHMENT you gave was the Holmes fight. Ali did prove himself as having a durable chin near the level of tyson in the lewis fight there, i have to give you that.

rubbish and are you implying that tyson took a worse beating in the lewis fight than in any of the fights southpaw mentioned ?

rubbish and are you implying that tyson took a worse beating in the lewis fight than in any of the fights southpaw mentioned ?

Your INSANE if you think Ali could have taken clean punches to the head all night from Foreman and not gone down, no one could. What i am saying is that constant nonstop punishment is different from intermittent punishment. The former tests the durability of the fighter more because of recovery time.

Your INSANE if you think Ali could have taken clean punches to the head all night from Foreman and not gone down, no one could. What i am saying is that constant nonstop punishment is different from intermittent punishment.


And yet he took none stop head punches from shavers who hit harder than both Foreman and Lewis. you really have no idea do you?

Your INSANE if you think Ali could have taken clean punches to the head all night from Foreman and not gone down, no one could. What i am saying is that constant nonstop punishment is different from intermittent punishment.

of course he could!

are you mad or ignorant

ali has one of the best heavyweight chins ever and he had heart like no other

let me guess you have seen at least 4 ali fights and 10 tyson fights

get real mate and watch some more

Ofcourse most people have more tyson fights under their belt then Ali fights, tyson fights were so short. Southpaw, Ali was winning 8 ROUNDS TO 4 by the 12th round in the Shavers fight. How could the fight have been a one sided continual pummeling on Ali. You are telling me about hard hitting opponents instead of addressing my point. Furthermore you have ignored my statement conceding that you are right about Ali due to the Holmes fight.

look ali fought the best and beat the best

tyson fought no one and beat no one

look ali fought the best and beat the best

tyson fought no one and beat no one

HOLD ON i think your misunderstanding me. I am not arguing that Tyson could take Ali, he couldn't. My original point was that Tyson had a great chin and the durability for a Foreman fight.

look ali fought the best and beat the best

tyson fought no one and beat no one

I wouldn't go as far as to say that.

Ofcourse most people have more tyson fights under their belt then Ali fights, tyson fights were so short. Southpaw, Ali was winning 8 ROUNDS TO 4 by the 12th round in the Shavers fight. How could the fight have been a one sided continual pummeling on Ali. You are telling me about hard hitting opponents instead of addressing my point. Furthermore you have ignored my statement conceding that you are right about Ali due to the Holmes fight.


Reagardless of whether he was winning or not resy, look at the punch stats for the fight. Shavers landed more punches and more power punches on ali's head in the first 8 rounds more than lewis landed hard shots on tyson for those 8 rounds. It's just that Ali was able to outland shavers because he was so skillful.

Reagardless of whether he was winning or not resy, look at the punch stats for the fat. Shavers landed more punches and more power punches on ali's head in the first 8 rounds more than lewis landed hard shots on tyson for those 8 rounds. It's just that Ali was able to outland shavers because he was so skillful.

I'll have to take a close look at this fight. it is rather difficult for me to believe that a defensive genius like Ali, who was also dominating Ernie Shavers in this fight, was hit all night with shots AS CLEAN as a COMPLETELy SUBMISSIVE and NEUTRALIZED Tyson, difficult indeed. It defies everything I know about Ali. Someone offering defense is different from someone that can offer no defense..

I'll have to take a close look at this fight. it is rather difficult for me to believe that a defensive genius like Ali, who was also dominating Ernie Shavers in this fight, was hit all night with shots AS CLEAN as a COMPLETELy SUBMISSIVE and NEUTRALIZED Tyson, difficult indeed. It defies everything I know about Ali. Someone offering defense is different from someone that can offer no defense..

Ali wasn't really a defensive genious. He kept his hands very low and often relied on his reflexs to avoid punches. By the time he fought Shavers his reflexes were long in decline and he could no longer slip punches like he used too. Ali took a lot of shots in that fight indeed.

Foreman wins this fight easily. Tyson's chin has proven to be glass, although a few people still like to say it was iron. He's been knocked out by both Holyfield and Douglas, neither of whom were devastating punchers. Foreman, on the other hand, fought several good punchers, including Smokin' Joe Frazier, and proved to have a strong chin. Also, when someone comes forward at Tyson, he generally doesn't seem to know what to do. In his prime, he looked amazing when he was pitted against small defensive guys who were terrified of him like Mike Spinks or old guys who used to be great but haven't got it anymore, like Holmes. Foreman in his prime was bigger, stronger, and hit harder than Tyson ever did.
tyson aint gotta glass chin
he just gets beat so bad he has nothin left in em n he drops
simple.

Ali wasn't really a defensive genious. He kept his hands very low and often relied on his reflexs to avoid punches. By the time he fought Shavers his reflexes were long in decline and he could no longer slip punches like he used too. Ali took a lot of shots in that fight indeed.

Well just because someone is unconventional in their defensive tactics dosen't mean that they cannot be a defensive genius. But I get your point.

And yet he took none stop head punches from shavers who hit harder than both Foreman and Lewis. you really have no idea do you?

ali was tough as hell but shavers only got a couple clean shots in in the second round if shavers followed up he would have KO'd ali

ali's chin was one of the best ever but he couldn't take foremans punches all night without covering

of course he could!

are you mad or ignorant

ali has one of the best heavyweight chins ever and he had heart like no other

let me guess you have seen at least 4 ali fights and 10 tyson fights

get real mate and watch some more

ali is tough but not as tough as you think he was great at covering when hurt thatsone of the reasons he lasted against foreman

of course he could!

are you mad or ignorant

ali has one of the best heavyweight chins ever and he had heart like no other

let me guess you have seen at least 4 ali fights and 10 tyson fights

get real mate and watch some more

ali is tough but not as tough as you think he was great at covering when hurt thatsone of the reasons he lasted against foreman

noone could take foremans punches all night

i agree in a sense, i mean ali wasn't a brick wall that would never be broken down like chuvalo but his chin was exceptional

if you took the ali from the foreman or shavers fight and stuck him in the ring against lewis insted of tyson, he would take that punishment and last the full 12 is all im saying

Ali's mid section was as tough as a tank as well. Could take any body shot. Even 8 rounds of body shots from Foreman, and body shots hurt a lot more than head shots.

Whats funny is that you said David Tua does NOT have a good chin? hahahaha. Seriously man, i dont think i should be responding to your post after reading that. Oh my God. I don't think anyone should read your posts after reading 'Tyson is a better (and more modern:pat: ) version of Frazier.

In the Lyle fight, Foreman proved he could get up off the canvas to win, something tyson never had the ability to do. It's been proven over and over. When the going gets tough, tyson gets going(counted out that is). Tyson didn't want any part of an old Foreman, that tells you the story right there.

Tyson is a different case when you talk about "when he gets knocked down he can't get up and win":

It sounds bad, but Tyson is kind of like King Hippo (from punch-out): Tyson will not go down from flash-knockdowns like many other boxers do...he will take incredible amounts of punishment, when he is stunned, he will force himself to stay up, which part of it is having to do with having strong legs and being stubborn.

When the going gets tough, tyson gets going(counted out that is)

Not so sure about that: Tyson had problems dealing with adversity when he didn't have a strong corner, but even when he didn't have a guy like Rooney in his corner, when he faced Ruddock, he had to deal with a lot, and still managed himself well and won...even in the Bruno fight, he was rocked early on, and his first reaction was to attack, which was the same reaction he had when he fought Ruddock the first time and was stunned.

Ali wasn't really a defensive genious. He kept his hands very low and often relied on his reflexs to avoid punches. By the time he fought Shavers his reflexes were long in decline and he could no longer slip punches like he used too. Ali took a lot of shots in that fight indeed.

I hear this all the time and don't understand it: reflexes are a part of your defense and actually more valiable in a real fight because you don't have gloves to help you block.

When you "roll with the punch", that is a part of defense, and has to do with your reflexes.

ali could have
frasier could have
holyfield could have
foreman could have
chuvalo could have

agree with everyone except Frazier...

Lewis hits like a mother ****er...he just doesn't get enough credit because he isn't aggressive all the time, but when he is, when people question him, he goes out and attacks and win by KO.

Oh I don't doubt that at all, In fact I everybody knows Tyson has an unreal account of past greats and there bouts. The guy that posted before me was false in saying that Cus tried to manipulate Tysons style with films of Frazier and Foreman. Thats just not true. Tyson himself has stated his style was refined by films of Dempsey. By Cus's advice. This came from his mouth. But yeah he spent a great deal of time watching all of the greats. Listen to him talk about it its crazy he knows all of the specs on the fights. Dates length of fight what happened in what round. It's probably the one thing Tyson is an intellectual about.

The problem with Frazier was that he plodded...Tyson had the ability of a Running Back to sprint forward and attack with punches in combinations to throw his opponent off balance and get him confused...Dempsey's approach when fighting bigger and stronger fighters was the same...Frazier didn't have this capability or at least never displayed it.

It's the same with Ali: The one thing that Ali did that was a negative was moving backwards with his hands down...now, this worked with other fighters, but fighting someone like Tyson, Muhammad could have difficulty...D'amato used to say he knew how to train a fighter to beat Ali, and I am guessing this was the reason, since the idea above was taken from someone in Tyson camp whose name I forget at the moment...That doesn't mean Tyson would win, but he could at least make it close...Tyson beats the Ali that Frazier fought, but pre-exile Ali was something else, but still had his faults.

The problem with a young Foreman was that his defense was shit, but of course it didn't matter most of the time because he was a big strong boy with great power in his hands...If Foreman were trained by someone like Emanuel Steward or even someone in his own time like a Ray Arcel, he could have possibly been better, maybe even the best to ever live...I think Foreman would of figured it out on his own if he would have had a long amatuer career before hand...although, a great trainer is important.

Tyson in my opinion is better in almost every department except he can't equal Joe's heart, though I am not sure who can...So, Tyson may have been better than Frazier, and I give him a better chance at beating Foreman, but that doesn't say to much since Joe got his ass kicked real bad...the difference here would be if Tyson could keep George off balance, by attacking fast with combos.

False..
he showed many films of Dempsey to help refine that style with Tyson.

how does your statement make mine false?

can you read anywhere in my post something like "Cus molded Tyson's style after Frazier"?

NO

BUT

do I imply that Tyson's style is similar to Frazier? YES

we can argue on the differences, but moving forward bobbing and weaving and taking the fight to the opponent is definitely in Tyson's style

how does your statement make mine false?

can you read anywhere in my post something like "Cus molded Tyson's style after Frazier"?

NO

BUT

do I imply that Tyson's style is similar to Frazier? YES

we can argue on the differences, but moving forward bobbing and weaving and taking the fight to the opponent is definitely in Tyson's style

In what ways do you compare the two? Is it the hooks and uppercuts or somthing? There similarities are few and far between.

I don't think anyone should read your posts after reading 'Tyson is a better (and more modern:pat: ) version of Frazier.

Well then, how many people here agree with
Jazz?
*greet* *slap* psshhhh.

Well then, how many people here agree with
Jazz?
*greet* *slap* psshhhh.

You're an idiot, Ali would kill Lee!

shit sorry... force of habit.

You guys are still going on with that huh http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8818/elefant1zy4.gif http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8818/elefant1zy4.gif
Hilarious.

In what ways do you compare the two? Is it the hooks and uppercuts or somthing? There similarities are few and far between.
r u stupid?
in many ways tyson compares to frazier
-bobs n weaves left n right
-powerful
-dangerous hooks(tho tysons righthand was better than his left i think)
-both ugly,lol
but frazier vs.tyson?
very hard to pick
i'd say Frazier,but then again i'd to think tyson will knock em out
cuz tyson proved wen his opponents was tryin to dodge em he was accurate n mostly knocked em out

Fraiser/Tyson? it would look just like Foreman/Fraizer.