View Full Version : tszyu vs Corales


bigdlb12
11-07-2004, 03:04 PM
What and why? I think it would be a good fight if and only if chico can stay away from tszyu's power shots. I'd like to see the outcome of this fight.

MikeHunt
11-07-2004, 03:17 PM
I like the sound of this match-up, it has all the intangibles to make a hell of a fight.

Champoreeno
11-07-2004, 03:21 PM
I'm a big Chico fan, but I don't think he'd get the better of Tzsyu before KT landed a few (it would'nt take many) right hands.

Nodogoshi
11-07-2004, 03:34 PM
Freitas tagged Coralles easily in their last fight. If that would've been Zoo tagging him with right hands instead of Freitas it wouldve been a short night for Chico.

acquitted
11-07-2004, 03:36 PM
this fight could go 1 of 2 ways...either the taller lankier corrales would jab and outbox tszyu all night..or tszyu could catch him with a punch and drop him

Italian250
11-07-2004, 03:44 PM
Tszyu has MUCH more pwer than say Frietas, Tszyu by KO...

bigdlb12
11-07-2004, 03:50 PM
this would be very interesting to see happen, I would pay for this fight,go look at some of Corales old clips,but I dont see him able to beat Kostya but maybe outbox him, all depends on the night of the fight

elveiel
11-07-2004, 04:04 PM
I'd pick Tszyu by KO, infact i'll bet anyone Tszyu will win this fight if it happens in 2005.

Sidestep_1
11-07-2004, 04:09 PM
Freitas tagged Coralles easily in their last fight. If that would've been Zoo tagging him with right hands instead of Freitas it wouldve been a short night for Chico.

I was thinking the same! Corrales is a very good boxer and can win the early rounds, but Tszuy will find a way to connect, and then itīll be "lights out" for Chico.

comepana
11-07-2004, 08:32 PM
Sometimes people underestimate Corrales chin.It have been down but never really hurt.Acelino have some pop in those hands and he took them all.Who knows how he will take the 140 pounds, his chin isn't that bad.

INFAMOUZ
11-07-2004, 08:42 PM
this fight could go 1 of 2 ways...either the taller lankier corrales would jab and outbox tszyu all night..or tszyu could catch him with a punch and drop him
CHICO CANT TAKE THE PUNCHING POWER OF ZOO .KOTSAY WILL KNOCK HIM OUT EASILY

psychopath
11-07-2004, 08:51 PM
I'm sure that TSZYU will be the favorite if this happens but don't count Diego out . . . the guy has changed and improved a lot ever since . . . the fact that Chico also has the power to hurt Tszyu . . . one solid punch can change the whole thing. ;)

INFAMOUZ
11-07-2004, 09:38 PM
Chico would be interestring,they would'nt have to go looking for each other.
KT would persavere.
Castilo would being some movement,wicth is what is needed to beat Zoo,but would get caught late.
Cotto is not ready yet but is the future of the Divison once Mayweather moves in and moves on.

muay
11-07-2004, 10:08 PM
Chicco will have his moments vs. Zooo, but just like Gatti, he too gets hit a lot. PBF KD'd him like 5,6 times, Freitas had a lot of his punches inside too. KT TKO's Corrales.

patto1984
11-07-2004, 10:16 PM
kostya would smash that lanky body take chicos power and work his way up to the head and take him out. KO EAAAZZZY

Hurlex
11-08-2004, 01:12 AM
corrales gets owned and ko'ed in about 5 rounds..maybe less

FistoftheDallasStar
11-08-2004, 03:01 AM
Diego's a good fighter but Tszyu would be too much for him. You also have to take in consideration that Corales would have to move up in weight to fight Kostya.

jabsRstiff
11-08-2004, 07:29 AM
Even at 140....I believe Chico would be a big time puncher.
But, he wouldn't beat Tszyu.

Kostya is just oo damn good, at everything, to be defeated by Corrales.

He'd break Chico down, & take him out.

markosg19
11-08-2004, 08:14 AM
this is easy, the moment tzsyu land anything reasonably hard it's bye bye corrales

guru
11-08-2004, 08:37 AM
chico has a good chin, but eventually tszyu would bust him up.... and tszyu's chin and stamina is pretty good too, so you wont see him fading like freitas did....

J !
11-08-2004, 08:43 AM
mismatch.

chico has only just moved up fomr superfeatherwieght, Kostya ius a big light welter who will probably go up to welter in under a year or so. Power diff would be immense and without any warm up or settling at Lightweight first?

Wouldnt be competetive for the above reasons at present.

The1God
11-08-2004, 08:48 AM
Kostya Would KO Deiago in less than 6 rounds. Good fight but after watching Kostra destroy Mitchell, he is unstoppable.

Supafly25
11-08-2004, 11:19 AM
yeah i agree, this would be pretty easy fight for Kostya. he would catch chico wit a right hand and it would be game over.

bigdlb12
11-08-2004, 12:28 PM
how many would pay to see this fight?

JOM'S
11-08-2004, 12:38 PM
I usually go for the underdog but on this one I'll go for the favorite...Tszyu by KO, at this momment his simply stronger & better than chico, but maybe in 2 years a lot of things will change ..

elveiel
11-08-2004, 01:01 PM
how many would pay to see this fight?

Everyone would, IMO Tszyu would win but i'd still pay because it would be interesting.

jabsRstiff
11-08-2004, 01:17 PM
Corrales vs. anyone is exciting.

scap
11-08-2004, 03:33 PM
This is a major mismatch, Corrales is exciting but in this one he has absolutely no chance. If Diego is afraid to fight JL Castillo (which I believe to be the case) then this matchup is nothing more than a pipe dream.

jabsRstiff
11-08-2004, 03:42 PM
This is a major mismatch, Corrales is exciting but in this one he has absolutely no chance. If Diego is afraid to fight JL Castillo (which I believe to be the case) then this matchup is nothing more than a pipe dream.


I can't imagine that Corrales is actually afraid of Castillo.
I'm not saying Chico would win, but why would he fear a guy who'd be there to hit ? He should fear Floyd M-type of fighters before someone like Castillo.

scap
11-08-2004, 03:57 PM
You might be right Jab but it appears from what I have heard is that Diego priced himself out of the fight. My number 1 reason for saying he is afraid is because when I watched him on with Brian Kenny after his win over Freitas, Kenny asked him who he wanted, he named a bunch of guys, it was almost like Castillo wasn't even an option and in my mind if you want to be the man at 135 you must defeat JL Castillo. Diego talked about Floyd knowing full well that this fight will never happen again, plus he wants no part of Floyd but it made him sound tough. When asked about Castillo by Kenny he seemed very hohum. Granted it is a style fight that suits him well as opposed to a guy like Floyd, but if this fight does happen both guys will have to go thru hell to win...maybe Diego is not willing to go thru hell.

whdempsey
11-08-2004, 04:33 PM
Tzyu would knock him out. Corrales, as much as I love him, would not be able to outbox Kostya. For one thing, Corrales wouldn't be able to keep Tzyu off him, who would use a straight right to chest and to the armpit to parry Chico's jab. And by the time Tzyu started going to his body, i.e. the first round, Corrales would be finished, and the only thing keeping him in there would be his heart.

Honestly, I think Frietas probably could have beaten Corrales if he had just fought instead of running around the ring like someone was shooting him in the ass. I mean he never once threw a really hard right hand, and he had the absolute wrong gameplan.

bigdlb12
11-10-2004, 12:15 PM
I can't imagine that Corrales is actually afraid of Castillo.
I'm not saying Chico would win, but why would he fear a guy who'd be there to hit ? He should fear Floyd M-type of fighters before someone like Castillo.
yeah I cant see Chico afraid of anyone, he fought Mayweather,no fear even after lossing so bad, Frietas first ture test for Popo and he falls into the hands of Chico,Cassamayor 2 times even after their first fight. SO to say that he is scare and of Castillo, I am with you, I dont thinh that he is

LeFtHooK24
11-10-2004, 03:36 PM
Corales has pop in both hands and KT is easy to hit. After Mitchell fought N'dou i Knew he was Gonna lose the fight with KT. So Corales has a chance

jabsRstiff
11-10-2004, 03:42 PM
Corales has pop in both hands and KT is easy to hit. After Mitchell fought N'dou i Knew he was Gonna lose the fight with KT. So Corales has a chance


Corrales has more than "pop" in his hands.....he's the hardest puncher in the sport, lb4lb.

I believe with his frame & just the way he punches....he'll carry his power to 140. That, makes him "live" against anyone up there (just keep him away from Floyd !).
Against Tszyu, I think Tszyu's just too strong & too good. He'll overpower Corrales.

LeFtHooK24
11-10-2004, 04:40 PM
Corrales has more than "pop" in his hands.....he's the hardest puncher in the sport, lb4lb.

I believe with his frame & just the way he punches....he'll carry his power to 140. That, makes him "live" against anyone up there (just keep him away from Floyd !).
Against Tszyu, I think Tszyu's just too strong & too good. He'll overpower Corrales.


I dont think he will over power chico,if chico uses his hieght and box he can make it an easy night.

Invader_Stu
11-10-2004, 05:21 PM
LeftHook I've seen a few times that you dont seem to favour Tszyu much in general, any reasons?

I think the weight/power difference in Tszuy's favour would be the deciding factor in this matchup. He uses his knuckles and punches so hard, unlike some 'flashier' boxers that throw a flurry of punches but are basically hitting with the inside of their gloves -> no power at all. I'm not saying Corrales does this as I havent seen much of him, just a general observation :)

LeFtHooK24
11-10-2004, 05:26 PM
LeftHook I've seen a few times that you dont seem to favour Tszyu much in general, any reasons?

I think the weight/power difference in Tszuy's favour would be the deciding factor in this matchup. He uses his knuckles and punches so hard, unlike some 'flashier' boxers that throw a flurry of punches but are basically hitting with the inside of their gloves -> no power at all. I'm not saying Corrales does this as I havent seen much of him, just a general observation :)


No but to Tszyu is over rated . There crediting him for beating Mitchell which i knew was the obvious ,the last couple of Mitchell fights he didnt look good at all so when the rematch hit i knew Tszyu would destroy him. Corales has a great chance to win just like Gatti if that fight goes down.Just my opinion

NAB
11-10-2004, 06:20 PM
Corrales isn't the boxer some think he is. He is also open to right hands. Tszyu would take his time, because Corrales can bang, particularly with short crisp punches, but I think he would stop him by 7 or 8.

Knicksman20
11-10-2004, 06:32 PM
I think that alot of people are underestimating Chico. We have to remember, the last really hard puncher Tsyzu fought was Vince Phillips & he got KO'ed. You can argue Zab but he's a sharp puncher. Tsyzu's used to being the bigger man, & with Chico you have a guy that can jab in his face all night & throw a devastating left hook with hard right hands of his own. Chico comes in weighing at around the 147 lbs range so I wouldn't see that as a huge factor. PBF proved the way to beat Chico is with speed. Freitas had a good gameplan till he Chico walked him down & KO'ed him. This would be a tough match for both fighters. Tsyzu has a tendency to freeze when hit with big punches. We saw do that against Phillips, Leija, Mitchell I&II, & even Zab.

NAB
11-10-2004, 06:37 PM
Chico at 147 would still be giving away at least 7 lbs to Tsyzu who normally comes in at 154+

MetalVomit
11-10-2004, 06:42 PM
Chico at 147 would still be giving away at least 7 lbs to Tsyzu who normally comes in at 154+


Kostya would be waaaaaaay too much for Chico

LeFtHooK24
11-10-2004, 08:32 PM
He wouldnt be to much for Chico. If Chico uses his hieght and reach like i said before it will be an easy night for him. Plus Chico has pop in his jab.If he uses that reach it would be an easy night for Chico and it would confuse Tszyu

NAB
11-10-2004, 08:59 PM
"Chico would confuse Tszyu..."

heh heh!

LeFtHooK24
11-10-2004, 09:02 PM
He would confuse Tszyu because, when have u ever seen Chico just box?
Tszyu trys to force the action Chico Hits hard to with BOTH hands which would be on the back Tszyu mind,and Tszyu's patient but if Chico can get ahead on the cards by smart boxing how patient will Tszyu be.

NAB
11-10-2004, 09:15 PM
Chico ain;t that clever, dude. He's a great puncher, but he was getting outboxed by Garcia at 130 before he overpowered him

LeFtHooK24
11-10-2004, 09:24 PM
Im not saying hes gotta be clever just be smart for the night if u want the chance to beat Tszyu

LeFtHooK24
11-10-2004, 09:24 PM
Chico is the taller man use that hieght and reach.the power is always there.

NAB
11-10-2004, 09:30 PM
Tszyu has probably only fought one or two guys who aren't taller than him.

NAB
11-10-2004, 09:31 PM
I am a big chico fan, by the way. I think any fight he is in is fun to watch.

Moon
11-10-2004, 09:42 PM
Im not saying hes gotta be clever just be smart for the night if u want the chance to beat Tszyu

Nuff said. Corrales can box but he's also a fighter. So, despite any plans and prep to fight the smart fight, he'd probably "react" when Kostya pressured him early and get caught.

Love to see that bout.

LeFtHooK24
11-10-2004, 09:46 PM
Yea his instinct is to fight but if he stuck to the plan of jab keep distance he has a great shot ..but only if he sticks to the plan to avoid big shots unless hes the one dishing them only

phallus
11-10-2004, 10:35 PM
this is a fight i would very much like to see. Corrales would carry his punching power up to 140, but his misfortune in facing Tszyu would be that he's actually fighting a junior middleweight on fight night ( i've heard Tszyu's actual weight on fight night is north of 154 ). If Chico could use his height effectively all night, he has a shot at beating Tszyu, the problem is, if Tszyu gets inside, and he will, he's just too good at cutting offf the ring, he'll KTFO Chico

lapulapu
11-10-2004, 10:41 PM
Tszyu vs Corrales is a huge mismatch. Tszyu will not get anything in beating up Corrales.

Moon
11-10-2004, 10:44 PM
Tszyu vs Corrales is a huge mismatch. Tszyu will not get anything in beating up Corrales.

Agreed. Because, Corrales doesn't always start so good and he seems to have some real mental lapses. More important though, Kostya is the definition of a pressure fighter and I don't see Corrales staying on the outside and/or effectively countering the advancing Russian.

NAB
11-10-2004, 10:56 PM
Tszyu fought Hurtado at 158, and Santos at above 150. They are the only two weights I know of on fight night.

Deejay
11-10-2004, 11:12 PM
I think that alot of people are underestimating Chico. We have to remember, the last really hard puncher Tsyzu fought was Vince Phillips & he got KO'ed. You can argue Zab but he's a sharp puncher. Tsyzu's used to being the bigger man, & with Chico you have a guy that can jab in his face all night & throw a devastating left hook with hard right hands of his own. Chico comes in weighing at around the 147 lbs range so I wouldn't see that as a huge factor. PBF proved the way to beat Chico is with speed. Freitas had a good gameplan till he Chico walked him down & KO'ed him. This would be a tough match for both fighters. Tsyzu has a tendency to freeze when hit with big punches. We saw do that against Phillips, Leija, Mitchell I&II, & even Zab.

All the fighters who have tried to come up against KT all had gameplans going into the fight but those plans went out the window when they felt the power of Tszyu. I think as soon as the first exchange happens, Corrales' will forget about any gameplan and attack KT because he's a deadset warrior. Unfortuneately for him, KT is too, with more power and deadly accuracy, he would annhialate Chico.

MetalVomit
11-10-2004, 11:36 PM
Chico is the taller man use that hieght and reach.the power is always there.


his body would be a huge target for such an accurate ASSASSIN like Tszyu. Chico has a good jab, but this is Kostya Tszyu we are talking about, I like Chico too, but your boy would get murdalized.

NAB
11-11-2004, 01:31 AM
The thing with Tszyu is that he learns quick & adapts. If Chico went on a jab fest, KT would eventually time the right hand back.

Prorock
11-11-2004, 01:52 AM
Corrales are taller but KT has more power. Tszyu will destroyed Chico.