View Full Version : Skins and tracksters- do they prevent injuries?


JulioCesaChavez
11-14-2008, 09:46 AM
My physiotherapist told me about this product. There is alot of info in their 'How it works' Video.
http://www.skins.net/default.aspx
Tracksters for running:
http://www.ontherunsports.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=41&products_id=398&gclid=CPbNlMP09JYCFQaT1Qod6XQCXw
Nike Pro Compression for football:
http://www.prodirectsoccer.com/staticfeature.asp?ART=1554


I've seen B-Hop wearing these for his runs and his training, and he wears the shorts during fights too. Pasquale Chimbonda wears the bottoms under his shorts during games, as alot of footballers do in training. My mateis a footballer and said his physio told him they will prevent him hamstring from snapping again and that they help get rid of lactic acid. Nike Pro Compressions make a good top, and almost every Prem footballer wears the tops nowadays. I'd like to know how effective everyone thinks they are, and if anyone has used these or running bottoms please do tell me how much of a difference it makes before I splash out on a full set!

B-Hop training in tracksters:
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Best footballer in the world endorses Nike Pro Compression:
http://www.futbolwallpapers.com/wallpapers/fernando_torres_9.gif

ironmike2008
11-14-2008, 12:16 PM
no idea mate, sounds like bollocks to me.

basically it says skintight clothes help reduce lactic acid buildup? how does that work then?

JulioCesaChavez
11-14-2008, 12:52 PM
The compression on the muscles increases blood circulation which speeds up the oxygen supply to them, and the lactic acid being taken away from them. Check out the vid on the Skins website, it explains alot. What i didn't like is their boast that theirs does it better than others.

Footballers and physios swear by it. B-Hop has stayed fit for a long time too! If anyone has been involved in either fields, maybe they can care to share a second opinion?

I think i'm going to go for the cheapo running pants and see how that works before buying them expensive Skins. I need them anyway because the perspiration under my sauna suit bottoms gets hit with the icy wind/drafts when I finish running or take a break between rounds. I need advice before splashing out on the full set of skins: tops + bottoms for training and shorts and socks for fights!

peewee1460
11-14-2008, 01:02 PM
doesn't compression reduce circulation? isn't that why you're supposed to apply pressure to a wound?

JulioCesaChavez
11-14-2008, 01:21 PM
doesn't compression reduce circulation? isn't that why you're supposed to apply pressure to a wound?

That is a completely different scenario. The compression on the muscles is light, so it brings more blood to the surface. It's not like pressing down HARD on a wound to stop the blood coming out. To date, I have only used the shorts when I was playing league games in football and they were good. They prevented chaffing too, and were the ones worn by cyclists. Now that a peice of my hamstring was used to reconstruct my ligament, it is always sore and I was looking for a solution so I'm looking for my old shorts!

JulioCesaChavez
11-14-2008, 01:30 PM
p.s. Has anyone used the ones by Nike Pro Compression:

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Can't find any science about them on their websites though! :o

If anyone has tried either the tops or bottoms out or even normal running bottoms, then please let me know. B-Hop looks like he is wearing same bottoms he uses for running.

Uchi Deshi
11-14-2008, 02:01 PM
Interesting idea. I'll have to give it a try.

JulioCesaChavez
11-14-2008, 07:32 PM
I found this video and the testimonials interesting as it highlights some other uses for the garment:

http://www.skins.net/gb/en/HowSkinsWork
http://www.skins.net/UserFiles/04_Glen-Kelly_289_OI155J.jpg


http://www.skins.net/UserFiles/File/21_Mark-Schwarzer_329_642130.jpg

this team were once in top flight:
http://www.skins.net/UserFiles/Leeds%20-%20soccer.pdf

I finally found my shorts and used them for a run a few hours ago. My calves are still aching! I think i will order the cheaper Ron Hill bottoms to see how it goes before splashing out on a full set of 4 Skin garments. I will keep you posted if they are any good. If anyone else has any experiences on it please do let me know, as I am fed up of buying training equipment that doesn't live up to the billing! I want to be sure before buying the expensive ones.

Salty
11-14-2008, 09:22 PM
I use skins regularly, they help with circulation defently, it feels like I can work the legs for longer than normal, especially the quads when doing burpees. Lactic acid is actually benefitial to you during workouts by the way, it's one of the main energy sources for muscles during sustained periods of activity.

JulioCesaChavez
11-14-2008, 09:46 PM
where did you get that from? Eh! I always thought it slowed down recovery and felt like a cunt. I don't get it too often to be honest because I have been back from injury for a while. I use to get it when I first came back from the op table and it was a pain in the arse but I train through the pain.

Salty, have you used other compression outifts before Skins? How do Skins compare to other brands? I like all the hype on their website but for some reason I am more inclined to trust Saucony, Asics, Nike as they are specialist running brands.

SOY-COMO-SOY
11-14-2008, 10:09 PM
are skins the same thing as under armour wear. They are both compression clothes.


http://www.underarmour.com/shop?cid=aff01&cid=aff01

JulioCesaChavez
11-14-2008, 10:33 PM
are skins the same thing as under armour wear. They are both compression clothes.


http://www.underarmour.com/shop?cid=aff01&cid=aff01

Not all of their products are compression clothes, but the running line will be very similar. I don't like that they do not have info about the compressions benefits, and only highlight that their products keep the cold out. Seems like it was not designed for the same purpose. I heard their stuff is bad quality and have seen someone with a top that went a bit loose around the neck and crumply.

Salty
11-14-2008, 10:51 PM
No I haven't personally tried anything else, if I find something that works I generally stick with it, plus while i'm studying my funds don't really allow me to experiment with exercise equipment.

Here's a good article which basically sums up Lactic acid and how to improve your lactic threshold, so give it a read.

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0175.htm

Salty
11-14-2008, 10:54 PM
where did you get that from? Eh! I always thought it slowed down recovery and felt like a cunt. I don't get it too often to be honest because I have been back from injury for a while. I use to get it when I first came back from the op table and it was a pain in the arse but I train through the pain.

Salty, have you used other compression outifts before Skins? How do Skins compare to other brands? I like all the hype on their website but for some reason I am more inclined to trust Saucony, Asics, Nike as they are specialist running brands.

Oh and one more thing, skins invented the technology, the other brands pretty much just copied their lead.

JulioCesaChavez
11-15-2008, 01:27 AM
Oh and one more thing, skins invented the technology, the other brands pretty much just copied their lead.
I thought running pants were around for ages? I did not know they invented it. Maybe all that stuff in the video is true! Nike copying any technology must be pretty good though.

Thanks for your feedback. I might get the skins instead if they have a good price on them at the local football and running store. The tracksters are so much cheaper though! The storekeeper says that Skins are the best because they are designed for different bodyshapes. Thanks for article info too!

JulioCesaChavez
11-15-2008, 07:54 PM
No I haven't personally tried anything else, if I find something that works I generally stick with it, plus while i'm studying my funds don't really allow me to experiment with exercise equipment.

Here's a good article which basically sums up Lactic acid and how to improve your lactic threshold, so give it a read.

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0175.htm

I just showed that article to my physio and she said that it is true, but you still need skins to support muscles and get rid of the excess lactic left over afterwards. She said the guy is right but is generally aiming his research towars endurance athletes such as 10k plus runners and marathon people.

Boxing is shorter and more intense and the lactic can slow you down in later rounds. My physio has worked with several football clubs and before you ask, yes she is a tomboy with a fit body and dog features just like all top physios! She played football herself and says anyone who runs more than 3 miles a day should use Skins.

My mate the footballer (who has played in Premiership) said it has given him a second chance at his career and that he hasn't pulled his hamstring yet. They both swear by it so I'm gonna give it a go and let everyone know what my verdict is in a few weeks.

Salty
11-15-2008, 09:08 PM
I just showed that article to my physio and she said that it is true, but you still need skins to support muscles and get rid of the excess lactic left over afterwards. She said the guy is right but is generally aiming his research towars endurance athletes such as 10k plus runners and marathon people.

Boxing is shorter and more intense and the lactic can slow you down in later rounds. My physio has worked with several football clubs and before you ask, yes she is a tomboy with a fit body and dog features just like all top physios! She played football herself and says anyone who runs more than 3 miles a day should use Skins.

My mate the footballer (who has played in Premiership) said it has given him a second chance at his career and that he hasn't pulled his hamstring yet. They both swear by it so I'm gonna give it a go and let everyone know what my verdict is in a few weeks.

The slow down in your muscles is caused by a drop in the pH level, however lactic acid is not a strong enough acid to cause the H+ build up to cause the pH drop in muscles. It's the predecessor pyruvic acid which causes the pain. In a way it is related to lactic acid though as too much lactate in the muscles doesn't allow for pyruvate to form into lactate. The good thing is you can train up your lactate shuttle, which greatly improves recovery times and can source your second wind.

Good luck with the skins mate, i'm sure you will like them.

JulioCesaChavez
11-15-2008, 09:46 PM
TBH I don't get much trouble with lactic acid, but would like the added support fo muscles. If it helps with recovery then it is a bonus! It is good to hear someone else in boxing has tested them first before I splash out. I'm going to get some new footy boots, new boxing boots and new trainers too so Skins will dent my pocket a bit more but health is more important than welath. Forget the crunch!

Salty
11-15-2008, 10:44 PM
TBH I don't get much trouble with lactic acid, but would like the added support fo muscles. If it helps with recovery then it is a bonus! It is good to hear someone else in boxing has tested them first before I splash out. I'm going to get some new footy boots, new boxing boots and new trainers too so Skins will dent my pocket a bit more but health is more important than welath. Forget the crunch!

Good moto, I bought mine after tearing my hamstring. Haven't had a problem with it since, so yeah let us know how they go for you.

JulioCesaChavez
11-16-2008, 12:47 AM
I will do mate. Hope they live up to the billing! My mate had the same problem with his hamstring and gave a similar testimonial.

Zhaakal
11-29-2008, 05:07 PM
I use skins. I only have em for legs.. ****ing love em. If you haven't tried em you definately should. Thinking about buying one for the upper body too.

mishka80
11-29-2008, 05:19 PM
I use compression shorts and I know there has been studies that skin tight clothing somewhat helps with injuries. Im no expert on this though...but I would definitely wear skins or compression clothing

keeps the joints and ligaments nice and warm.

mishka80
11-29-2008, 05:25 PM
Also.. would skins be good for running during the winter time or when its cold??? Im sure that it keeps your legs warm and all...anyone chime in on this?

JulioCesaChavez
11-29-2008, 11:03 PM
They keep you warm in winter as they don;t let air through so easily. I wear them under sauna suit and before after I stopped running I would feel cold air hit the sweat. This happened after football games too when i just wore shorts. Nowadays I stay warm all the way to dressing rooms. I have felt a huge reduction in soreness and my hamstring (they took a chunk out of it as a graft for new ligament) doesn't get tight or pull during football games or boxing. Roadwork has gone smoothly too, but that wasn't too bad in first place as I was going straight and therte was no twisting and turning. I was so impressed I just got the recovery Skins a few days ago. They are excellent and better than the uncomfortable ice bath! Skins are the way forward. Some Aussie world title contender says he had no jetlag flying to Miami in the travel&recovery Skins! Half the Inter Milan team didn't wear them for no reason. Most top flight clubs have injured players use them in training and I bet you'll have more players in Prem like Pasquale Chimbonda wearing them in games. I wish nando stopped pulling his hamstring and wore at least the half Skins! I am buying half skins and the powersocks for my next fight for shizzle. I can't live without Skins, and they are tailored to fit my bodytype index too!

El Niņo.
01-22-2009, 12:39 AM
I wear the NIKE Torres one's underneath my Maharishi tees when I go to clubs and they keep you cool too. Even when a white woman is grinding all over my gigantic Moroccan Berber schlong which is proven bigger than little Negroes in stats. That is why Obama is upset and will still not stop the wars straight away until they get proper beats. Them mother****ers are dying like flies! Lol.

On a serious note I swear by these. Since turning pro I have obviously been training alot more on a cosistent basis and these really are the ****. I would never train without them. They keep hamstring injuries under wraps and looking after the muscles also takes pressure off the joints. I also use them when i play football and have not had any problems when I play in the hole behind striker or even when I play in the holding role in front of back four. That obviously requires alot of running that fat blob yanks never do, and tackling too which makes you injury prone. I have not had any problems since wearing these and will continue to do the Inter Milan style of wearing them under shorts and footy socks. Also, the legendary Sammi Hyppia has been wearing the short ones for years and look how sick he is in his mid 30's!!!

Leakbeak
10-08-2009, 11:11 PM
Just thought i WOULD BUMP this thread because it has been a year since I started wearing them and I haven't even had cramp since then, never mind injuries! They work better than uncomfortable ice baths