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HE fighter at the centre of boxing's night of shame could be banned for life at an emergency meeting of the sport's governing body next week.
Ahmed Elomar should have been celebrating a shock first-round knockout over highly-rated Willie Kickett at Central Coast Leagues club on Friday night.
Instead, he will be forced to defend allegations he threw Kickett's stool at fans as the night degenerated into what one official called "anarchy''.
Chairs, bottles and full cans of drink were thrown as the Elomar camp erupted, leaving ring doctor John O'Neill and the wife of promoter Angelo Hyder injured.
Elomar was arrested and detained on suspicion of terrorism in Lebanon in June last year.
Boxing Authority of NSW executive officer Craig Waller promised a crackdown on the culprits.
There was a similar incident in Brisbane last year when Elomar's brother, Mohammed, was disqualified in a fight for persistent low blows.
"We'll be looking at everything from possible suspensions to cancellations of licenses,'' Waller said.
"We have to take hard action to prevent anything like this happening again in the future.
"There will be an emergency meeting for the boxing authority members to review all possible video footage of all camera angles.
"They'll make their decision on possible disciplinary action then.''
Other boxers in the Elomar corner - Hussy Hussein, Mohammed Elomar and Bobby Antonakos - also face suspensions if they are found to have been involved in the melee.
The Boxing Authority of NSW may rule the fight a no-contest after the Elomar camp flooded the ring prematurely to celebrate while Kickett lay flat on the canvas.
Hyder's wife was hit in the head with a half-full can of drink and he was hit with two chairs.
"In 10 years of staging fight nights, I can't recall ever seeing anything else like it,'' Hyder said.
Kickett's trainer Craig Christian said the issue was between the Elomar camp and fans sitting ringside.
"It was all happening beside us and it was between their corner and the boys on the floor,'' Christian said.
"Elomar rang me up after the fight when I was in the hotel to check to see if we were all right.''
Waller said Kickett, who had to be rushed out of the ring after being knocked out, had no case to answer.
Kickett had completely dominated Elomar for much of the opening round before dropping his hands, allowing Elomar to strike.
"We need to review what happened, because it was such a melee you couldn't see what was going on,'' Waller said.
"The audience was very pro-Willie Kickett and it was probably a matter of Elomar's camp 'getting it up him', that sort of thing.''
Elomar's trainer Billy Hussein and other members of the Elomar camp were detained by police.
The Sunday Telegraph understands the group claimed police were being racist and refused to give their personal details.

The first Photo shows them taunting the crowd.

A lengthy ban is warranted. To be honest I really just want to see him and his brother out of Australian boxing. They bring absolutely nothing positive.

sounds good

All you people jumping into conclusion, saying that the lebs started the fight. How do you know before the fight that the anglos didn't stir up elomar crew first? EG: your lebbo boy gona lose??

Then when then when elomar won, they celebrated. Yes they celebrated like dickheads, but they were just happy for their boy. How do you guys know that when elomar KO kickett, the anglos didn't say something like "****ing fluke lebbo bitc, cunt, dog etc ?

Don't just blame the lebos. This is really hard for me to stick up for them because im asian, Vietnamese. When your in sydney, lebos and viets DO NOT hang out together. That still doesnt change the fact that you have to know all the facts first before you start blaming minorities.

All you people jumping into conclusion, saying that the lebs started the fight. How do you know before the fight that the anglos didn't stir up elomar crew first? EG: your lebbo boy gona lose??

Then when then when elomar won, they celebrated. Yes they celebrated like dickheads, but they were just happy for their boy. How do you guys know that when elomar KO kickett, the anglos didn't say something like "****ing fluke lebbo bitc, cunt, dog etc ?

Don't just blame the lebos. This is really hard for me to stick up for them because im asian, Vietnamese. When your in sydney, lebos and viets DO NOT hang out together. That still doesnt change the fact that you have to know all the facts first before you start blaming minorities.

Dude, Lebs always start ****.

Dude, Lebs always start ****.

no they dont always start ****, so get your facts straight.

Dude, Lebs always start ****.
mate i got leb mates and i wouldnt say they always start it.. in every nationality theres a dickhead that starts it and that dosent mean leboes are always to balme who know who started it that night

no they dont always start ****, so get your facts straight.

uhh mate

yeah they do

Dude, Lebs always start ****.

There we go. Perfect example of a prick in our society.

There we go. Perfect example of a prick in our society.

there are a few of them starting to show up in the aussie forum.

uhh mate

yeah they do

And another one. :nonono:

Hasn't one of the elomar's been arrested over terrorism charges?

I think nearly everybody has 'started ****' from time to time. Obnoxious behaviour is ugly no matter who you are or where you come from.

i Think Nearly Everybody Has 'started ****' From Time To Time. Obnoxious Behaviour Is Ugly No Matter Who You Are Or Where You Come From.

Cccooollllllll

i still say what i said at the start...takes two to tango..

yes the camp celebrated a bit excessively- but sticks and stones don't break bones.

the people from the crowd are the ones who commited the crimes - being, throwing things in the ring.

talk about suspending elomar is a joke, and if such a thing were to happen, it would sound very racist to me.

do the thing, reprimand a few, etc, but all in all, the boxer's themselves are rarely to blame.

the crowd was responsible for starting ****.
So what, what if they all jumped in the ring, and celebrated like hooligans? theyre entitled to do that.
The crowd got the ****s, and started throwing chairs.

LOL at ppl saying that Elomar's crew may not have been the main catalysts.

They were in the ring taunting the crowd. This is the key thing. As they were the ones in the ring, they have to cop the blame.

the crowd was responsible for starting ****.
So what, what if they all jumped in the ring, and celebrated like hooligans? theyre entitled to do that.
The crowd got the ****s, and started throwing chairs.

The crowd is always going to be yelling at the guys who just beat their boxer. When the guys that are along with the corner, and the actual boxer that won, start taunting the crowd, that is when it is one hundred %, the fighters, and the corner's fault! Completely.

The crowd is a crowd and are always going to back their guy. If every fighter that won taunted the home crowd there would hundreds of riots a year all over the place. You celebrate with humility in the ring and then celebrate properly out of it. You don't taunt the f*cking crowd when you've just beaten their favourite fighter! FFS! What did they expect? For the crowd to sit back and allow themselves to be taunted? He should be banned, because it was the fighters, and his team's, fault that it escalated to the point it did. How often do you see the away fighters team and the fighter himself start getting it on with an unruly crowd? Very, very rarely. They get the f*ck out of there!

No crowd is innocent, but it took the fighter taunting them to make it go that extra bit farther and turn it into a riot. The blame does lie with the fighter, whether he started it or not. The crowd always start it. They start it from the moment they get there and from the moment the first bell rings. They don't escalate it though.

The crowd is always going to be yelling at the guys who just beat their boxer. When the guys that are along with the corner, and the actual boxer that won, start taunting the crowd, that is when it is one hundred %, the fighters, and the corner's fault! Completely.

The crowd is a crowd and are always going to back their guy. If every fighter that won taunted the home crowd there would hundreds of riots a year all over the place. You celebrate with humility in the ring and then celebrate properly out of it. You don't taunt the f*cking crowd when you've just beaten their favourite fighter! FFS! What did they expect? For the crowd to sit back and allow themselves to be taunted? He should be banned, because it was the fighters, and his team's, fault that it escalated to the point it did. How often do you see the away fighters team and the fighter himself start getting it on with an unruly crowd? Very, very rarely. They get the f*ck out of there!

No crowd is innocent, but it took the fighter taunting them to make it go that extra bit farther and turn it into a riot. The blame does lie with the fighter, whether he started it or not. The crowd always start it. They start it from the moment they get there and from the moment the first bell rings. They don't escalate it though.


Another top post here. I totally agree with it.

Imagine if Kostya and his Crew started taunting the crowd when he beat JCC. He would probably be dead now.

The crowd is always going to be yelling at the guys who just beat their boxer. When the guys that are along with the corner, and the actual boxer that won, start taunting the crowd, that is when it is one hundred %, the fighters, and the corner's fault! Completely.

The crowd is a crowd and are always going to back their guy. If every fighter that won taunted the home crowd there would hundreds of riots a year all over the place. You celebrate with humility in the ring and then celebrate properly out of it. You don't taunt the f*cking crowd when you've just beaten their favourite fighter! FFS! What did they expect? For the crowd to sit back and allow themselves to be taunted? He should be banned, because it was the fighters, and his team's, fault that it escalated to the point it did. How often do you see the away fighters team and the fighter himself start getting it on with an unruly crowd? Very, very rarely. They get the f*ck out of there!

No crowd is innocent, but it took the fighter taunting them to make it go that extra bit farther and turn it into a riot. The blame does lie with the fighter, whether he started it or not. The crowd always start it. They start it from the moment they get there and from the moment the first bell rings. They don't escalate it though.

Great post Benny.Totally agree.
Even Mundine copped it when he fought in Perth.
He did the smart thing and got to his dressing room pronto. Read the atmosphere and the situation and act accordingly.

The crowd is always going to be yelling at the guys who just beat their boxer. When the guys that are along with the corner, and the actual boxer that won, start taunting the crowd, that is when it is one hundred %, the fighters, and the corner's fault! Completely.

The crowd is a crowd and are always going to back their guy. If every fighter that won taunted the home crowd there would hundreds of riots a year all over the place. You celebrate with humility in the ring and then celebrate properly out of it. You don't taunt the f*cking crowd when you've just beaten their favourite fighter! FFS! What did they expect? For the crowd to sit back and allow themselves to be taunted? He should be banned, because it was the fighters, and his team's, fault that it escalated to the point it did. How often do you see the away fighters team and the fighter himself start getting it on with an unruly crowd? Very, very rarely. They get the f*ck out of there!

No crowd is innocent, but it took the fighter taunting them to make it go that extra bit farther and turn it into a riot. The blame does lie with the fighter, whether he started it or not. The crowd always start it. They start it from the moment they get there and from the moment the first bell rings. They don't escalate it though.

True, the home crowd does have the right to back their guy. So does the away crowd.

So how do you know that the home crowd didnt taunt elomar crew first?? And if u say they did, and that the away crew cant do the same, than thats discriminative, because you favour one crew over another even though they did the same thing.

Also, you dish all the blame to elomar's crew for taunting when u don't even know they started it. But wait, let me see, ur saying that they should just cop the taunt because they are the away team.

And your basically suggesting, since they taunt the home crowd, they desevered to have chairs thrown at them. lol. Yes and since elomar and his crew celebrated their victory/taunt the crowd he should be banned/suspended from boxing. Yes, they shouldn't charge the people who actually thrown chairs at elomar crew. Why, because their lebs ?? Because the crowd couldnt handle the fact that their boy lost ? Yes that gives them the right to throw chairs and cause a riot.

Totally agreed. Another fukwit.

True, the home crowd does have the right to back their guy. So does the away crowd.

So how do you know that the home crowd didnt taunt elomar crew first?? And if u say they did, and that the away crew cant do the same, than thats discriminative, because you favour one crew over another even though they did the same thing.

Also, you dish all the blame to elomar's crew for taunting when u don't even know they started it. But wait, let me see, ur saying that they should just cop the taunt because they are the away team.

And your basically suggesting, since they taunt the home crowd, they desevered to have chairs thrown at them. lol. Yes and since elomar and his crew celebrated their victory/taunt the crowd he should be banned/suspended from boxing. Yes, they shouldn't charge the people who actually thrown chairs at elomar crew. Why, because their lebs ?? Because the crowd couldnt handle the fact that their boy lost ? Yes that gives them the right to throw chairs and cause a riot.

Totally agreed. Another fukwit.

You don't seem to understand. They have a greater responsibility as they are actually inside the sporting arena. Did you see Marvin Hagler returning fire when he had bottles hurled at him following the stoppage of the Minter fight?

Bottom line, these guys bring nothing but negativity to Australian boxing. If I had the authority I would probably try and use this as an opportunity to wipe this guy out for as long as possible.

It has nothing to do with ethnicity, he and his ppl are trouble makers. They give Australian boxing a bad name and harm young fighters trying to earn a living as a result. Please try to understand this.

You don't seem to understand. They have a greater responsibility as they are actually inside the sporting arena. Did you see Marvin Hagler returning fire when he had bottles hurled at him following the stoppage of the Minter fight?

Bottom line, these guys bring nothing but negativity to Australian boxing. If I had the authority I would probably try and use this as an opportunity to wipe this guy out for as long as possible.

It has nothing to do with ethnicity, he and his ppl are trouble makers. They give Australian boxing a bad name and harm young fighters trying to earn a living as a result. Please try to understand this.

Thanks for a great level minded post. I totally agree with you.

You don't seem to understand. They have a greater responsibility as they are actually inside the sporting arena. Did you see Marvin Hagler returning fire when he had bottles hurled at him following the stoppage of the Minter fight?

Bottom line, these guys bring nothing but negativity to Australian boxing. If I had the authority I would probably try and use this as an opportunity to wipe this guy out for as long as possible.

It has nothing to do with ethnicity, he and his ppl are trouble makers. They give Australian boxing a bad name and harm young fighters trying to earn a living as a result. Please try to understand this.

Them celebrating doesn't mean they are trouble makers. The trouble makers were the one throwing the chairs. They are what started the trouble. They threw the chairs. Celebrating your boy's victory does not constitute trouble making.

But i don't blame you for being naive. u just look at what the media presents you and full believe. Its funny how the media got fotos of elmaor crew sticking their fingers up, but no fotos of the people who threw the chairs.

You just see a pack of lebs with their fingers up, and u automatically assume they are trouble makers. You got to think beyond that, and think of what other possible scenarios. Why are there no pics of the other crew??

Using the excuse, they deserve what they got, and they are the one to blame for because they celebrate their victory imo doesnt give the other people the right to abuse em.

Them celebrating doesn't mean they are trouble makers. The trouble makers were the one throwing the chairs. They are what started the trouble. They threw the chairs. Celebrating your boy's victory does not constitute trouble making.

But i don't blame you for being naive. u just look at what the media presents you and full believe. Its funny how the media got fotos of elmaor crew sticking their fingers up, but no fotos of the people who threw the chairs.

You just see a pack of lebs with their fingers up, and u automatically assume they are trouble makers. You got to think beyond that, and think of what other possible scenarios. Why are there no pics of the other crew??

Using the excuse, they deserve what they got, and they are the one to blame for because they celebrate their victory imo doesnt give the other people the right to abuse em.


Again, you don't seem to understand. It seems that you are just arguing with emotion rather than looking at the pure facts.

You have an added responsibility when you are actually inside the sporting arena. Again, I refer you to the other instances where things like this have happened in boxing. Anyone with half a brain just gets out of there when the trouble starts - see Mundine in Perth and Hagler in Britain. THey don't start making obscene gestures at the crowd (which probably triggered the chair throwing) and then proceed to hurl the chairs back once the trouble starts.

It has nothing to do with their ethnicity. I would have adopted the exact same stance regardless of who was in that ring. You say "celebrating their boy's victory" I say gesturing and insighting a crowd they fully new was hostile. Now, I could have even excused this behaviour if, once the crowd started to get aggressive they just tried to defend themselves and get out of the place, but they didn't. They all wanted to get into a massive brawl on national television - potentially doing irrepairable damage to the sport in this country.

"You just see a pack of lebs with their fingers up and assume they are a pack of trouble makers" - your quote. No, I see a pack of individuals intentionally inciting what they new would be a tense situation by getting into the ring and gesturing into the crowd before proceding to return fire with the projectiles that were hurled against them. I am not condoning the morons in the crowd for their actions, they should also be punished, but it is foolish to downplay how disgraceful the actions of those in the ring were. So whilst celebrating victory does not constitute trouble making, IMO, their actions most certainly do.

I also find it interesting that you are the only one making this about race or ethnicity. I am simply observing what I saw happen, and making my judgement accordingly.

Again, you don't seem to understand. It seems that you are just arguing with emotion rather than looking at the pure facts.

You have an added responsibility when you are actually inside the sporting arena. Again, I refer you to the other instances where things like this have happened in boxing. Anyone with half a brain just gets out of there when the trouble starts - see Mundine in Perth and Hagler in Britain. THey don't start making obscene gestures at the crowd (which probably triggered the chair throwing) and then proceed to hurl the chairs back once the trouble starts.

It has nothing to do with their ethnicity. I would have adopted the exact same stance regardless of who was in that ring. You say "celebrating their boy's victory" I say gesturing and insighting a crowd they fully new was hostile. Now, I could have even excused this behaviour if, once the crowd started to get aggressive they just tried to defend themselves and get out of the place, but they didn't. They all wanted to get into a massive brawl on national television - potentially doing irrepairable damage to the sport in this country.

"You just see a pack of lebs with their fingers up and assume they are a pack of trouble makers" - your quote. No, I see a pack of individuals intentionally inciting what they new would be a tense situation by getting into the ring and gesturing into the crowd before proceding to return fire with the projectiles that were hurled against them. I am not condoning the morons in the crowd for their actions, they should also be punished, but it is foolish to downplay how disgraceful the actions of those in the ring were. So whilst celebrating victory does not constitute trouble making, IMO, their actions most certainly do.

I also find it interesting that you are the only one making this about race or ethnicity. I am simply observing what I saw happen, and making my judgement accordingly.

This poster is always looking for a argument.

Them celebrating doesn't mean they are trouble makers. The trouble makers were the one throwing the chairs. They are what started the trouble. They threw the chairs. Celebrating your boy's victory does not constitute trouble making.

But i don't blame you for being naive. u just look at what the media presents you and full believe. Its funny how the media got fotos of elmaor crew sticking their fingers up, but no fotos of the people who threw the chairs.

You just see a pack of lebs with their fingers up, and u automatically assume they are trouble makers. You got to think beyond that, and think of what other possible scenarios. Why are there no pics of the other crew??

Using the excuse, they deserve what they got, and they are the one to blame for because they celebrate their victory imo doesnt give the other people the right to abuse em.

LOL. You're funny.

This poster is always looking for a argument.

Fair enough then, didn't realise. Probably little point.

Them celebrating doesn't mean they are trouble makers. The trouble makers were the one throwing the chairs. They are what started the trouble. They threw the chairs. Celebrating your boy's victory does not constitute trouble making.

But i don't blame you for being naive. u just look at what the media presents you and full believe. Its funny how the media got fotos of elmaor crew sticking their fingers up, but no fotos of the people who threw the chairs.

You just see a pack of lebs with their fingers up, and u automatically assume they are trouble makers. You got to think beyond that, and think of what other possible scenarios. Why are there no pics of the other crew??

Using the excuse, they deserve what they got, and they are the one to blame for because they celebrate their victory imo doesnt give the other people the right to abuse em.

totally agree with u , its hard to try and use rationale with some posters on here.

the crowd was just as much to blame as the boxer's crew

the crowd was just as much to blame as the boxer's crew

Again, irrelevant. As the individuals in the ring you cannot get engaged with a hostile crowd. You just have to defend yourself and get out of there, not make obscene gestures and return fire with the chairs.

This is pretty basic stuff guys, seriously.

Again, irrelevant. As the individuals in the ring you cannot get engaged with a hostile crowd. You just have to defend yourself and get out of there, not make obscene gestures and return fire with the chairs.

This is pretty basic stuff guys, seriously.

Sadly for some members of this forum it's not.

Those people in the crowd must have been really pissed off their face, otherwise they wouldn't have hurled objects into the ring.Disgraceful.

Again, irrelevant. As the individuals in the ring you cannot get engaged with a hostile crowd. You just have to defend yourself and get out of there, not make obscene gestures and return fire with the chairs.

This is pretty basic stuff guys, seriously.

dude. the crowd dun get special privileges just because they are the crowd. What kind of **** is that. lol. just because they are the crowd lol. they can dish it out, but they cant cop it. That is soo biased. who cares what mundine did. he didnt have the balls to stand up to them. elmoar did. YOur basically saying that the crowd can dish whateva they want to the boxer, but boxers aint allowed to do **** to them and that the crowd should not cop ****, just because they are the crowd. lol

Yes ban the boxer for fighting and giving them entertainment, and let the hostile crowd getaway scott free, even though they they escalated the drama by throwing chairs.

dude. the crowd dun get special privileges just because they are the crowd. What kind of **** is that. lol. just because they are the crowd lol. they can dish it out, but they cant cop it. That is soo biased. who cares what mundine did. he didnt have the balls to stand up to them. elmoar did. YOur basically saying that the crowd can dish whateva they want to the boxer, but boxers aint allowed to do **** to them and that the crowd should not cop ****, just because they are the crowd. lol

Yes ban the boxer for fighting and giving them entertainment, and let the hostile crowd getaway scott free, even though they they escalated the drama by throwing chairs.

This is the last time I will reply to you.

You seem to be under the impression that just because it may be too difficult to properly punish the offenders in the audience the individuals in the ring should be given a pass. You are actually implying that the behaviour of the fighter and his entourage is acceptable - almost an eye for an eye type mentality. This is ridiculous.

I am not sure you fully understand what kind of damage scenes like this can result in. I will give you an example. I post on the Brisbane Broncos rugby league supporters forum. There is an 'Other Sports' section on that forum. Usually I initiate threads about a week out from major PPV events trying to get other people interested in it. I usually get between 2 and 4 responses. It would be safe to say interest in boxing on that forum is fairly low.

The day after the events we are discussing, someone started a thread titled "disgraceful scenes on Friday night fights" or something similar. Within less than a day there was a full page of responses basically laughing at the sport, calling it a disgrace, etc.

Do you think this type of public image is going to encourage people to invest in putting on decent fight cards in this country? Hell, it is already pretty bad now, imagine if the investors currently in the market decided to pull out over these image problems. Quite honestly, it would be tough to blame them.

What is worse is that it is not necessarily Elmoar who would be hurt by this. He is fairly close to the top of the sport in this country and should always be able to make a living. It is the young fighters and those who rely on events like these to feed their families that may cop the brunt of it.

It isn't about "fair punishment for all involved" or anything like that, it is about trying to do what is best for Australian boxing and, from what you are implying, I get the sense you want these guys just let off with a slap on the wrist. I am not sure that sends the type of message that is necessary.

dude. the crowd dun get special privileges just because they are the crowd. What kind of **** is that. lol. just because they are the crowd lol. they can dish it out, but they cant cop it. That is soo biased. who cares what mundine did. he didnt have the balls to stand up to them. elmoar did. YOur basically saying that the crowd can dish whateva they want to the boxer, but boxers aint allowed to do **** to them and that the crowd should not cop ****, just because they are the crowd. lol

Yes ban the boxer for fighting and giving them entertainment, and let the hostile crowd getaway scott free, even though they they escalated the drama by throwing chairs.


Hey Ricky, that's not why he's being banned. He's being banned for his behavior.

Do you think he should be punished at all?

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