I just have to say this for the new forum. Chris Byrd has all time great defense. He is the most skilled HW out there.

Stuff you have already heard from me but I have to say it again for the new era of Boxingscene.

and heres the 1st byrd put down...he got beat by w-klit..beat by ike ibeabuchi the rapist..close to being beat by v-klit
got a draw from golota but imo he lost a close fight

so let the byrd hating begin.....soon as i can change my screen name judas will be back

Chris Byrd is a good fighter. He has great defense against the smaller heavyweights. The bigger heavyweights have seem to find him such as Wladimir, Vitali, Ike and Golota. That's why I wanted Lennox to fight him but for whatever reason it never happened. Lewis would of beat Byrd in my opinion.

Oh oh! I get to be the first Byrd basher of the new board....
Lets see... uh...... Byrd sucks, is boring, has no power, is under weight, gets bossed around by his wife, only survived his last two fights because of Don King.... did I miss anything?

I don't really hate Byrd I just think the board was empty without alittle Byrd bashing :p

Oh oh! I get to be the first Byrd basher of the new board....
Lets see... uh...... Byrd sucks, is boring, has no power, is under weight, gets bossed around by his wife, only survived his last two fights because of Don King.... did I miss anything?

I don't really hate Byrd I just think the board was empty without alittle Byrd bashing :p

hahaha! i like that. but you just took it back. dude, now it doesnt make a difference... ;)

Byrd sucks :P

Oh oh! I get to be the first Byrd basher of the new board....
Lets see... uh...... Byrd sucks, is boring, has no power, is under weight, gets bossed around by his wife, only survived his last two fights because of Don King.... did I miss anything?

I don't really hate Byrd I just think the board was empty without alittle Byrd bashing :p

haha i beat ya to the byrd bashing...and i cant believe you actually had to say uh before insulting him...

lewis didnt fight him because in manny stewrards words "why have lennox chase byrd for 12rds and look bad doing it"
i do give credit to byrd for not ducking the fights...
he said about mannys comments "if im so bad or annoying then beat me and get me out the way"

the manny quote was more accurate than the byrd quote but both are good enough

Byrd has slowly been growing on me, that is despite how lackluster he appeared against Golota. The fact that speed is a rarer commodity at heavyweight then power is, and Chris Byrd posses an unusual amount of both hand and foot speed- so the fact is that he should be competitive in any fight he is involved in.

byrds hand speed is lousy imo...and that gay ass pawing he does,,well i wish hed go back to yogi bear and stop unfairly holding that title he should of lost a few times
and as for ruiz..the only reason he has a belt is because he made a deal to lose to roy jones as long as he got belt back and got the money fights afterwards

why else say your proud to be world champ again

if i was handed a belt by default purely because his royness doesnt want it id be gutted..so gutted id persistently push for a rematch to really prove my worth
but then ruiz has got what he wants...guaranteed belt win lose or draw..who else can claim that

haha i beat ya to the byrd bashing...and i cant believe you actually had to say uh before insulting him...

lewis didnt fight him because in manny stewrards words "why have lennox chase byrd for 12rds and look bad doing it"
i do give credit to byrd for not ducking the fights...
he said about mannys comments "if im so bad or annoying then beat me and get me out the way"

the manny quote was more accurate than the byrd quote but both are good enough

<Bows down to SlimAnus>

Damn ya beat me :p

<Bows down to SlimAnus>

Damn ya beat me :p

ahhhh you finally noticed
no one is quicker to hate byrd and christistheanswer simultaneously as me...

call me judas

I just have to say this for the new forum. Chris Byrd has all time great defense. He is the most skilled HW out there.

Stuff you have already heard from me but I have to say it again for the new era of Boxingscene.
Why do you always feel the need to give Byrd a verbal blowjob each and every day?
Also, why do you feel that we have to know about it as well?
Go find some yahoo group full of boxing morons who like Byrd, to post this **** in.

ahhhh you finally noticed
no one is quicker to hate byrd and christistheanswer simultaneously as me...

call me judas
lol I would have done it first had I been online! :p
I hate Byrd but I think I hate his little ***** "christistheanswer" more.

Why do you always feel the need to give Byrd a verbal blowjob each and every day?
Also, why do you feel that we have to know about it as well?
Go find some yahoo group full of boxing morons who like Byrd, to post this **** in.

a verbal blowjob..is that like makin your woman say your name while she sucks you off???

i hate byrd lovers and the byrd they be loving (in thier private fantasy world)

a verbal blowjob..is that like makin your woman say your name while she sucks you off???

i hate byrd lovers and the byrd they be loving (in thier private fantasy world)
Nah, it's the incessant and senseless over praising of someone or something.
However, I have a feeling that "christ" boy would much rather be giving Byrd a nice sloppy one in real life.

Nah, it's the incessant and senseless over praising of someone or something.
However, I have a feeling that "christ" boy would much rather be giving Byrd a nice sloppy one in real life.

a very sick and oh so real reality

a very sick and oh so real reality
Did you happen to see that **** clip GiantWang posted last night?
If so, replace the guy with Byrd and the girl with "christ" and you have "christ"s dream come true. :p

missed the footage...shame

Wonder how much truth there is to the stuff about Ruiz agreeing to lose? I haven't heard it, but have wondered it many times, as Ruiz was IMO limited in what he could do by the ref. Just a thought.

Wonder how much truth there is to the stuff about Ruiz agreeing to lose? I haven't heard it, but have wondered it many times, as Ruiz was IMO limited in what he could do by the ref. Just a thought.
well watch ruizs other fights then watch this...since when have ruizs corner had to scream at him for all of a fight to do something,anything to stop that punk taking his belt
never
he did nothing and said nothing..just lost round by round

he hit roy in the 1st then gave up,,,and it wasnt cause of roys speed...he did next to nothing so make your own mind up

Yeah, at least in his other fights he did try, against Roy he tried in the last couple of rounds a little bit, but when he got close to Roy, the ref would break them. But I agree, he did next to nothing for almost the whole fight, and when he did do something, it seemed like he was just going through the motions, with no real intent of hurting RJJ.

This is really funny because Cycnical says how I always rip on boxers.

Who's the one who rips on boxers? Cynical your a hypocrite.

This is really funny because Cycnical says how I always rip on boxers.

Who's the one who rips on boxers? Cynical your a hypocrite.
Actually this post is funny.
Two reasons.

1. I never said I didn't rip on boxers. You said that you didn't and I proved you wrong.

2. Even though my name is on these boards and you've been replying to me, you still managed to misspell my name.
That's pretty funny.

Actually this post is funny.
Two reasons.

1. I never said I didn't rip on boxers. You said that you didn't and I proved you wrong.

2. Even though my name is on these boards and you've been replying to me, you still managed to misspell my name.
That's pretty funny.

Oh big deal I misspelled your name. Sounds like your running out of comebacks. You remeber who started this whole thing, oh thats right you did.

Oh big deal I misspelled your name. Sounds like your running out of comebacks. You remeber who started this whole thing, oh thats right you did.
Nope, I haven't run out of those.
I felt everything was said in that post.

Yeah, I said I was sick of you posting all kinds of **** about other boxers, not saying anything about negative about Byrd, and always acting like the victim.
Which you are now.

But remember this, victims don't usually keep the **** going.
However, you've been keeping this going. ;)

This is really funny because Cycnical says how I always rip on boxers.

Who's the one who rips on boxers? Cynical your a hypocrite.

I don't know y you even reply to the DR. he is just a hater. you know he was 1st runner up at the HATERS BALL.

I don't know y you even reply to the DR. he is just a hater. you know he was 1st runner up at the HATERS BALL.
I don't know why you even bother to capitalize letters or use periods.
No one can understand your ebonics bull****.

Byrd really lost. He won because judges did not want him to lose. That is it. Nothing else can be said about Byrd.

Byrd presently is in a very good position because he is fighting a scrub in McCline next. He will perform his normal game plan and come out a winner. Eventually he will have to face Vitali and that will be his judgement day.

Byrd presently is in a very good position because he is fighting a scrub in McCline next. He will perform his normal game plan and come out a winner. Eventually he will have to face Vitali and that will be his judgement day.
VK will destroy Byrd.
It's just that simple.

Byrd has slowly been growing on me, that is despite how lackluster he appeared against Golota. The fact that speed is a rarer commodity at heavyweight then power is, and Chris Byrd posses an unusual amount of both hand and foot speed- so the fact is that he should be competitive in any fight he is involved in.

Apparently you missed how uncompetative a bunch of his fights have been.

He's fighting out of his depth and his style is almost as yawn worthy as Ruiz only in a technically proficient way.

Unfortunatley you don't watch the heavies for technical proficiencies, you want a bit of bang and power - He's had some entertaining fights - But the one most people cite is the Ibeabuchi loss, the "win" over Vitali and the younger brother punching him up in the return.

I thought Fres beat him by two rounds, I also thought Golotta beat him by a round.

Having said all that - I'd love to see Toney and Byrd. or Jones and Byrd - At least make a rule that the HW's can only have one former Middle champ in their ranks at a time.

as far as im concerned byrd and toney are the only heavyweights worth watching.

Stuff you have already heard from me but I have to say it again for the new era of Boxingscene.
Stuff you've already heard, but this one is also for the new era. Byrd has the IBF belt, as Mike Weaver and Gerrie Coetzee also had alphabelts. Little known fact, Ernie Terrell held the WBA belt. Byrd is an aging former defensive wiz who hasn't won a fight since Holyfield. Byrd gets hit way too much now, and his straight left makes Spadafora look like Pacquiao. He's a guy who really can not compete at an elite level, even with this weak crop of heavyweights. Hey CITA, whats good homie!

im sorry? he beat oquinedo. and drew with golata. thats the only fights hes had since holyfield.

controversial decisions is what he means he never really beat them he just got gifts of decisions

im sorry? he beat oquinedo. and drew with golata. thats the only fights hes had since holyfield.
There are wins, and then there are wins. If we're going like that, then Antuofermo was the equal of Hagler in the first fight and DLH was superior to Quartey in their '99 war. There are wins, and then there are wins.

and maybe you've forgotten how good golata is cause of his "losses"
but remember he was winning many of his fights be for taking himself out of the fight.

and maybe you've forgotten how good golata is cause of his "losses"
but remember he was winning many of his fights be for taking himself out of the fight.

The innevitable "Couldashouldawoulda". You know Ibeabuchi could've beaten Lewis, theoretically. Golata's fear of being punched is what makes him go crazy. He snapped in the Grant and Tyson fights because he met too big a puncher. The Bowe fights were an up and comer beating up on a finished legend. The second Golata faces another big puncher, he'll go crazy again.

controversial decisions is what he means he never really beat them he just got gifts of decisions


what gift?

oquindo?

oquindo lost.


oquindo was doing well rounds 3-7 but then started imitating ruiz
by rushing and grabbing and hitting behind the head.

byrd wasn't busy but at least he was poppin the jab inbetween rushes and was trying to win while oquindo was tring to knocking him out the way he cheated and k.o.ed mo harris.


byrd won the fight.

what gift?

oquindo?

oquindo lost.


oquindo was doing well rounds 3-7 but then started imitating ruiz
by rushing and grabbing and hitting behind the head.

byrd wasn't busy but at least he was poppin the jab inbetween rushes and was trying to win while oquindo was tring to knocking him out the way he cheated and k.o.ed mo harris.


byrd won the fight.

And how about that impressive KO victory over Vitali. Amazing come from behind ****, like Gatti-Rodriguez all over again. Give me a break.

The innevitable "Couldashouldawoulda". You know Ibeabuchi could've beaten Lewis, theoretically. Golata's fear of being punched is what makes him go crazy. He snapped in the Grant and Tyson fights because he met too big a puncher. The Bowe fights were an up and comer beating up on a finished legend. The second Golata faces another big puncher, he'll go crazy again.


thats my point when he got in front of byrd his talent shined like everyone knows it could, cause he knew byrd couldnt hurt him.

consequently byrd stunned him twice.

Chris Byrd is a good fighter. He has great defense against the smaller heavyweights. The bigger heavyweights have seem to find him such as Wladimir, Vitali, Ike and Golota. That's why I wanted Lennox to fight him but for whatever reason it never happened. Lewis would of beat Byrd in my opinion.

don king gave lennnox lewis a bentley and a million dollars to give up his belt and not fight Crisp Tyrd

And how about that impressive KO victory over Vitali. Amazing come from behind ****, like Gatti-Rodriguez all over again. Give me a break.


your nuts!! byrd was raping Vitali to the body in the finale rounds. byrd had a man who out weighted him by like 35 lbs backing up and running from him.

thats my point when he got in front of byrd his talent shined like everyone knows i could cause he knew byrd couldnt hurt him.

consequently byrd stunned him twice.

Byrd stunned me as well, as he had the audacity to bring that weak **** into a "heavyweight title" fight. I'm here till 8:00, tip your waitress.

what gift?

oquindo?

oquindo lost.


oquindo was doing well rounds 3-7 but then started imitating ruiz
by rushing and grabbing and hitting behind the head.

byrd wasn't busy but at least he was poppin the jab inbetween rushes and was trying to win while oquindo was tring to knocking him out the way he cheated and k.o.ed mo harris.


byrd won the fight.

i dont know if we were watching the same fight

the fight i saw byrd might have won 3 rounds at the most

This is really funny because Cycnical says how I always rip on boxers.

Who's the one who rips on boxers? Cynical your a hypocrite.

why does chris byrd claim to be a christian when ive seen him in interviews say "its all about the money" etc

thats not what jesus would do

your nuts!! byrd was raping Vitali to the body in the finale rounds. byrd had a man who out weighted him by like 35 lbs backing up and running from him.
Certifiable like a mutha****a. Byrd was landing body shots that wouldn't have made DLH take a backwards step. Vitali fights a defensive fight, backing up so as not to be hit with 75% of the shots like Wladmir.

i was there at the fight.

why does chris byrd claim to be a christian when ive seen him in interviews say "its all about the money" etc

thats not what jesus would do
It's called hipocracy. Religion and pugilism have no business in the same breath.

i was there at the fight.
Sorry to hear that.

Certifiable like a mutha****a. Byrd was landing body shots that wouldn't have made DLH take a backwards step. Vitali fights a defensive fight, backing up so as not to be hit with 75% of the shots like Wladmir.


its not good defence to backup stright back .

its not defence if your getting hit while you back up either.

its not good defence to backup stright back .

its not defence if your getting hit while you back up either.

Is it defense to move your head... into punches? Thats what Byrd did with Ibeabuchi. You know, even Whitaker got hit sometimes.

byrds defence is good and keeps him alive against monsters that are
a foot taller than him and outweigh him by 40 pounds. Vitali's defence gets him one of the worst cuts in boxing history.

how could you compare Vitali's defence to byrd's?

byrds defence is good and keeps him alive against monsters that are
a foot taller than him and outweigh him by 40 pounds. Vitali's defence gets him one of the worst cuts in boxing history.

how could you compare Vitali's defence to byrd's?
Going down with the ship, very admirable. Vitali was cut once, and all of a sudden he's Danny Lopez. I'm not saying Vitali is as hard to hit as Byrd, but Vitali makes you pay for the real estate.

Going down with the ship, very admirable. Vitali was cut once, and all of a sudden he's Danny Lopez. I'm not saying Vitali is as hard to hit as Byrd, but Vitali makes you pay for the real estate.


Vitali is a stiff robot who boxes worse than a young formen but with less power and passion.

if it wasn't for universum feeding him stiffs he would have been stopped years ago.

Vitali is a stiff robot who boxes worse than a young formen but with less power and passion.

if it wasn't for universum feeding him stiff he'd would have been stopped years ago.

by who?

he took some stiff shots from LL and wasnt even stunned

by who?

he took some stiff shots from LL and wasnt even stunned
he was stunned several times while taking
stiff shots from an overweight outtashape LL who used his jab to save himself by tearing that eye open more.

furthermore, while he WAS losing he was also cracking vitili with heavy shots.

it was really a coin toss who was gonna go down first.

what active heavyweight hits harder than lennox

the crux of the matter...lennox hit like a freight train when he loaded up and if hed had a less cautious way of fighting would of been even more of a beast than he already was.

maybe tyson or tua could hit harder but they didnt have the all round ability to touch lewis.hahaha byrd might of made lewis look bad like lewis and steward said but byrd still would of got whupped.

i think ill go watch ike take byrds head off again then laugh as byrd trys t convince the ref its a slip.

what active heavyweight hits harder than lennox

david tua

mike tyson

formen (even now, more than likely, as your punch is the last to go.)


hell, even Nicolay Valuev.

there are some inactive guys that would give lennox's punching a run for its money too.

but that question is neither here nor there.

i said vitali would have been stopped years ago.

look at his proformance with an out of shape sanders.
in that fight he looked like a soup-sandwich: sloppy.


imagine him in the ring with a fighter thats inshape and has some movement + a medium amount of power.

byrds movement made him so sloppy he either a) hurt his shoulder.
or b)made him scared enouph to fake an injury rather than run 3 more rounds from a feather fisted blownup middleweight, who was sick with diarria the night before the fight, and was chasing him around the ring throwing and landing body shots while slipping vitali's best counters.

also vitali has trouble fighting on the inside, which is why he look so bad with sanders and took so many uppercuts from lewis.

the crux of the matter...lennox hit like a freight train when he loaded up and if hed had a less cautious way of fighting would of been even more of a beast than he already was.

maybe tyson or tua could hit harder but they didnt have the all round ability to touch lewis.hahaha byrd might of made lewis look bad like lewis and steward said but byrd still would of got whupped.

i think ill go watch ike take byrds head off again then laugh as byrd trys t convince the ref its a slip.


yeah, he beat byrd. ike was a monster .
but even in that post fight interveiw he said byrd was the best he fought and he could see why no heavyweights wanted to fight him. he also said byrd's punchs do hurt cause you can't see them coming.

that's coming from the only fighter imo that could = formen in heavyweight punching power.

yeah, he beat byrd. ike was a monster .
but even in that post fight interveiw he said byrd was the best he fought and he could see why no heavyweights wanted to fight him. he also said byrd's punchs do hurt cause you can't see them coming.

that's coming from the only fighter imo that could = formen in heavyweight punching power.
arturo gatti gave mickey ward props but it didnt mean ward wasnt a walking punchbag his entire career.
its called boxing talk...theres only one reason they dont wanna fight byrd and thats becasue he runs all night and gets the don king pass that allows him dubious wins.
nothing you say now or ever will change the fact that chris byrd is on borrowed time as a champion and its soon gonna be judgement day.

and dont say hes done great for a middleweight who moved up...he should still be fighting at a lower weight if he aint good enough lol

when i see chris byrd ko a genuine decent hw then ill believe he has more p4p punching power than cory spinks lol

david tua

mike tyson

formen (even now, more than likely, as your punch is the last to go.)


hell, even Nicolay Valuev.

there are some inactive guys that would give lennox's punching a run for its money too.

but that question is neither here nor there.

i said vitali would have been stopped years ago.

look at his proformance with an out of shape sanders.
in that fight he looked like a soup-sandwich: sloppy.


imagine him in the ring with a fighter thats inshape and has some movement + a medium amount of power.

byrds movement made him so sloppy he either a) hurt his shoulder.
or b)made him scared enouph to fake an injury rather than run 3 more rounds from a feather fisted blownup middleweight, who was sick with diarria the night before the fight, and was chasing him around the ring throwing and landing body shots while slipping vitali's best counters.

also vitali has trouble fighting on the inside, which is why he look so bad with sanders and took so many uppercuts from lewis.

i said active heavyweights and you failed to list even one

put a fork in tyson cause hes done for as a contender

I just have to say this for the new forum. Chris Byrd has all time great defense. He is the most skilled HW out there.

Stuff you have already heard from me but I have to say it again for the new era of Boxingscene.


I think Byrd is a likeable guy. He fights well, his defense is good, and he has a reasonable chin. He is an Olympic silver medalist. I do think he needs a stronger punch. Also, I like watching interviews with Byrd. That sums it up.

I don't know why you even bother to capitalize letters or use periods.
No one can understand your ebonics bull****.


The beauty of a language is a relative thing. In the early 19th century, Russian language had the status of ebonics among the Russian nobility. Pushkin's poetry had dramatically changed that in the middle of the 19th century, supporting the birth of a great literature and cultural tradition. Incidentally, Pushkin's grandfather was an african from Etheopia, and Pushkin's nany was a simple peasant woman. :cool:

david tua

mike tyson

formen (even now, more than likely, as your punch is the last to go.)


hell, even Nicolay Valuev.

there are some inactive guys that would give lennox's punching a run for its money too.

but that question is neither here nor there.

i said vitali would have been stopped years ago.

look at his proformance with an out of shape sanders.
in that fight he looked like a soup-sandwich: sloppy.


imagine him in the ring with a fighter thats inshape and has some movement + a medium amount of power.

byrds movement made him so sloppy he either a) hurt his shoulder.
or b)made him scared enouph to fake an injury rather than run 3 more rounds from a feather fisted blownup middleweight, who was sick with diarria the night before the fight, and was chasing him around the ring throwing and landing body shots while slipping vitali's best counters.

also vitali has trouble fighting on the inside, which is why he look so bad with sanders and took so many uppercuts from lewis.

Actually you may want to watch the Vaughn Bean fight and you hurt your shoulder by throwing punches that don't hit anything which Byrd makes you do. Just ask the shot version of Holyfield that fought Byrd.

The beauty of a language is a relative thing. In the early 19th century, Russian language had the status of ebonics among the Russian nobility. Pushkin's poetry had dramatically changed that in the middle of the 19th century, supporting the birth of a great literature and cultural tradition. Incidentally, Pushkin's grandfather was an african from Etheopia, and Pushkin's nany was a simple peasant woman. :cool:
Do you know what I mean when I type about "ebonics"?
Seems like you don't and you use it as a chance to ramble on about useless information.

"Ebonics" is a term that was given to the slang bull**** that most "urban" morons speak and obviously write and type in as well.

Do you know what I mean when I type about "ebonics"?
Seems like you don't and you use it as a chance to ramble on about useless information.

"Ebonics" is a term that was given to the slang bull**** that most "urban" morons speak and obviously write and type in as well.


Yes, I know what you mean. You tried to offend the Great1 who I think is a reasonable guy. So I tried to help him out a little.

Moron is a common jewish last name. The word moron is an ethnic slur word.

You are getting iritated, aren't you? I do hope you stay cool.

Take care.

Yes, I know what you mean. You tried to offend the Great1 who I think is a reasonable guy. So I tried to help him out a little.

Moron is a common jewish last name. The word moron is an ethnic slur word.

You are getting iritated, aren't you? I do hope you stay cool.

Take care.
Not really.
I just don't like having to go through a paragraph of useless information that didn't need to be posted just to reply to you.

Not really.
I just don't like having to go through a paragraph of useless information that didn't need to be posted just to reply to you.


Well, thanks. I thought the Pushkin story would interest you.

Well, thanks. I thought the Pushkin story would interest you.
Another time, perhaps.
But right now it's just useless information that I don't want to read through at this time.

i said active heavyweights and you failed to list even one

put a fork in tyson cause hes done for as a contender

david tua

mike tyson

formen

Nicolay Valuev.

are all active

valuev is a bum if you have ever seen him fight which is doubtful because you live in the US

tua hasnt fought in almost 2 years

foreman hasnt fought in 7 years

tyson is done for and was too short to hit Lewis so how would he hit Klitschko

next...

and heres the 1st byrd put down...he got beat by w-klit..beat by ike ibeabuchi the rapist..close to being beat by v-klit
got a draw from golota but imo he lost a close fight

so let the byrd hating begin.....soon as i can change my screen name judas will be back

dont forget the Oquendo fight
u cant let him forget he lost to a complete bum like him that got kod by sweaty hug man

dont forget the Oquendo fight
u cant let him forget he lost to a complete bum like him that got kod by sweaty hug man
you said active fighters that hit harder than lewis. thats them.

i didnt say they where great fighters or that they could beat vitali. they hit harder though, which is what YOU asked.

and all of them are active.

mike will fight till 2008

tua just annoused his comeback
as did formen.

Byrd sucks :P

really bad..... he makes an awesome commentator though, way better then RJJ.

you said active fighters that hit harder than lewis. thats them.

i didnt say they where great fighters or that they could beat vitali. they hit harder though, which is what YOU asked.

and all of them are active.

mike will fight till 2008

tua just annoused his comeback
as did formen.

They can talk all they want, but they aren't active until they step into the ring. Nice to see that you also skipped over my earlier post.

byrds hand speed is lousy imo...and that gay ass pawing he does,,well i wish hed go back to yogi bear and stop unfairly holding that title he should of lost a few times
and as for ruiz..the only reason he has a belt is because he made a deal to lose to roy jones as long as he got belt back and got the money fights afterwards

why else say your proud to be world champ again

if i was handed a belt by default purely because his royness doesnt want it id be gutted..so gutted id persistently push for a rematch to really prove my worth
but then ruiz has got what he wants...guaranteed belt win lose or draw..who else can claim that
You're not really gonna pretend that Roy bought Ruiz are you? Because that would be foolhardy. I mean, really dumb. And totally unsubstantiated. And obviously biased. How about next time you want to accuse someone of putting in a fix, you just don't do it? K?

You're not really gonna pretend that Roy bought Ruiz are you? Because that would be foolhardy. I mean, really dumb. And totally unsubstantiated. And obviously biased. How about next time you want to accuse someone of putting in a fix, you just don't do it? K?

It only looked like a fix because Nady enforces the rules almost as strictly as as Olympic ref, thus Ruiz is rendered horrible without his punch and clinch strategy.

It only looked like a fix because Nady enforces the rules almost as strictly as as Olympic ref, thus Ruiz is rendered horrible without his punch and clinch strategy.

YES BUT HIS strategy is borderline cheating.

someone should have inforced the rules on him years ago.

Chris Byrd is so good at making good fighters look bad that it's boring to most, but genius to most of the boxing experts. When was the last time Byrd took a hard shot besides Ike?