View Full Version : Was Hagler really a budsmoker?


Squabbles94806
10-30-2008, 09:42 AM
I was just curious, cus there was some talk about Hagler being a budsmoker. In fact, i've heard that smoking bud and training co-exisits.
Sugar Ray Leonard had asthma.

Barndog
10-30-2008, 10:31 AM
Huh?!

It certainly won't help in any aspect of your boxing.

But yes, certain fighters have admitted to using it. Frank Bruno comes to mind when I think

Bendigo
10-30-2008, 11:12 AM
If you're looking for justifications for smoking out and competing in boxing at a high level, then you're mistaken. These are the exceptions, not the rule.

ScottDBA
10-30-2008, 11:45 AM
If you're looking for justifications for smoking out and competing in boxing at a high level, then you're mistaken. These are the exceptions, not the rule.
I'm guessing that's what he's looking for. So if one of his coaches/teammates finds out he can say "Marvin Hagler did it, so why can't I?".

Being successful in boxing takes sacrifices. If getting high is a major priority in your life, your chances at being successful in boxing will suffer. If that's ok with you, then smoke away.

But don't try to find excuses about why it's fine for you to keep doing it just because one great fighter may have done it. It just makes you look like you don't take boxing seriously.

Better not let your trainer find out, why would he want to waste his time with someone who isn't serious?

Squabbles94806
10-30-2008, 01:05 PM
I'm guessing that's what he's looking for. So if one of his coaches/teammates finds out he can say "Marvin Hagler did it, so why can't I?".

Being successful in boxing takes sacrifices. If getting high is a major priority in your life, your chances at being successful in boxing will suffer. If that's ok with you, then smoke away.

But don't try to find excuses about why it's fine for you to keep doing it just because one great fighter may have done it. It just makes you look like you don't take boxing seriously.

Better not let your trainer find out, why would he want to waste his time with someone who isn't serious?

I know. I know. My habit isn't even really out of control either.

Banderivets
10-30-2008, 03:53 PM
Why should it mater?

I bet 90% of boxers drink once in a while, so whats wrong with smoking once in a while?

If I was a pro athlete and I had to choose between drinking or smoking Id pick smoking 10/10 times.

Roger Yomama
10-30-2008, 04:06 PM
If that is true about Hagler being a stoner, his opponents must think themselves lucky. Imagine the damage he could have done sober!!

MikeBrew328
11-01-2008, 04:48 PM
He must have been smoking some **** before the Leonard fight then lol

Smoking, IMO is better than drinking although less socially acceptable. I'd rather drink in between fights a little bit (not even a lot of beer), than smoke all the time

JulioCesaChavez
11-02-2008, 01:24 PM
Drinking is bad, but I think for boxing smoking is alot worse. Drink makes you a bit hyper but smoking really does deplete your energy and make you proper laid back. It makes you lazy in the ring and you will lose speed and become sluggish. It affects your reflexes and timing too. Excessive smoking of the pot is no good for boxing.

AztecWanker
11-02-2008, 05:38 PM
its not as bad if you smoke using a bong/hookah/vaporizer since the water cools and neutralizes the carcinogens in the smoke.

MJ406
11-04-2008, 01:21 PM
He must have been smoking some **** before the Leonard fight then lol

Smoking, IMO is better than drinking although less socially acceptable. I'd rather drink in between fights a little bit (not even a lot of beer), than smoke all the time

how is smoking better then drinking? less harmful to the body? (probably answered my own question)

at least drinking doesn't turn you into a spaced out giggling food craving whatever

and yeah agreed, in addition to being more socially acceptable, drinking in moderation really isn't all that bad, and on top of it, it costs less (usually)

and it's an easier process (I'd think drinking would be easier to pull of then rolling a blunt for example)

no worry about side effects such as the bloodshot eyes/munchies

but back to the topic, did Hagler toke?

**and if i was a pro athlete I really wouldn't drink and or smoke .... i drink maybe 1 beer a week so it's not a horribly significant amount.

twoohands
11-05-2008, 09:09 AM
I know. I know. My habit isn't even really out of control either.

your a fu#kin loser, listen to yourself. bob marley snoop dogg wannabe.

Banderivets
11-05-2008, 09:54 PM
how is smoking better then drinking? less harmful to the body? (probably answered my own question)

at least drinking doesn't turn you into a spaced out giggling food craving whatever

and yeah agreed, in addition to being more socially acceptable, drinking in moderation really isn't all that bad, and on top of it, it costs less (usually)

and it's an easier process (I'd think drinking would be easier to pull of then rolling a blunt for example)

no worry about side effects such as the bloodshot eyes/munchies

but back to the topic, did Hagler toke?

**and if i was a pro athlete I really wouldn't drink and or smoke .... i drink maybe 1 beer a week so it's not a horribly significant amount.

Well I think we are talking about moderate use here.

Like I said previously, if I was a pro athlete, and I let myself loose once a month and the choice was between hitting a vaporizer filled with some dank or drinking a mickey of vodka/rum Id choose the vaporizer.

I dont think anyone smokes a blunt before a fight, nor does anyone take a chug of JD before putting his robe on.

Alcohol is ****ing nasty man, I love it, but man its bad...The only reason we can drink is because we've been putting that **** into our body since time. We have evolved around alcohol, our bodies can finally take it. And again it depends on who....Im european, I can handel it, I know some Koreans who get knocked out after two coolers, knew this one African student who had allergic reactions to anything over 5.0%

JulioCesaChavez
11-06-2008, 02:04 AM
how is smoking better then drinking? less harmful to the body? (probably answered my own question)

at least drinking doesn't turn you into a spaced out giggling food craving whatever

and yeah agreed, in addition to being more socially acceptable, drinking in moderation really isn't all that bad, and on top of it, it costs less (usually)

and it's an easier process (I'd think drinking would be easier to pull of then rolling a blunt for example)

no worry about side effects such as the bloodshot eyes/munchies

but back to the topic, did Hagler toke?

**and if i was a pro athlete I really wouldn't drink and or smoke .... i drink maybe 1 beer a week so it's not a horribly significant amount.
Not true. Binge drinking also messes with your blood sugar levels which is why people crave that kebab or curry at the end of a night out. Rolling a blunt is quite simple once you get use to it. I would say the reason why smoking is worse for a boxer is because it does make you lazy. regular drinking does too, but smoking makes you docile and roverelaxed whereas sometimes drinking can in fact make you aggresive and hyper. I would say a drink or a smoke very 3 months is alright, but anything more than that is trouble.

bbos
11-07-2008, 05:06 AM
Not true. Binge drinking also messes with your blood sugar levels which is why people crave that kebab or curry at the end of a night out. Rolling a blunt is quite simple once you get use to it. I would say the reason why smoking is worse for a boxer is because it does make you lazy. regular drinking does too, but smoking makes you docile and roverelaxed whereas sometimes drinking can in fact make you aggresive and hyper. I would say a drink or a smoke very 3 months is alright, but anything more than that is trouble.

as a fellow bud smoker and a competitive amatuer boxer, I smoke a lot when I take a break from boxing, but once the training starts I'm clean, maybe a toke or two every 2 weeks, this keeps my tolerance low and my high strong :boxing:

JulioCesaChavez
11-07-2008, 12:31 PM
That is good for you! My tolerence remains high (I fight at 178lbs and walk around at 185lbs) all the time so I keep the smokes few and far between for other reasons. A few tokes will not do anything to you, but make sure it is just that! I share an 1/8th with a mate every few months and it does not affect me at all. 4 times a year is hardly substance abuse! Alcohol intake is about the same.

A few years ago I spent 3 months working in insurance telesales. We use to have an 1/8th to a quart everyday (which made our sales go through the roof!) and it seriously affected my timing and my energy. I was getting lazy and docile so decided to have it once a week. That was too much. Once a month was pushing i too. it is idfferent for everyone but once a quarter, and light usage is about right for me. With drinking, I also keep it light and share a bottle of bubbly with a bird. Them student days of 40 shots of JD with lime and ice are long gone. As you get to your mid 20's, it starts affecting you more and you need to look after your body more.