View Full Version : UFC offers "Kimbo Slice" spot on "The Ultimate Fighter"


Palma
10-27-2008, 07:09 PM
Chris Insinna

Despite UFC President Dana White's consistent publicly voiced disdain for EliteXC's use of Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson as a marketable MMA commodity, White did recently offer Slice an opportunity to join the world's leading MMA promotion.

With Slice out of a job after the recent collapse of EliteXC and parent company ProElite, White was asked about the possibility of bringing the former streetfighter into the UFC at the post-UFC 90 press conference.

"[Slice] can be on 'The Ultimate Fighter,'" White said.

Despite the offer, White's position on the skills of Slice have apparently not changed.

"What's [Slice] done other than get 10 million hits on YouTube?," White asked. "What's he done to deserve to be in the UFC? Nothing. I don't consider him a real athlete or anything. He won't win The Ultimate Fighter. The offer's out there if he wants to take it, (but) he won't win it."

The prospect of Slice appearing on the ****e TV reality show still seems a bit far-fetched.

Little is known of the exact status of the contracts the now-defunct EliteXC held with its fighters. Slice and others may be tied up in court battles for the immediate future. The UFC would also almost certainly not be willing to match Slice's $500,000 salary for his most recent fight.

But when asked if the UFC would be willing to feature a heavyweight edition of "The Ultimate Fighter" for the first time since the show's second season, White certainly didn't rule out the prospect.

"We might do that," White said with a grin.

YUHHHHHHH!
10-27-2008, 07:53 PM
Kimbo slice gets layed on in The Ultimate Fighter lawl.

Spare Moody
10-27-2008, 07:55 PM
haha! i normally don't like the **** Dana pulls but props for this decision.

Mech.
10-27-2008, 08:22 PM
haha! i normally don't like the **** Dana pulls but props for this decision.

I dont care for slice, I was laughing while he was getting KO'ed, but this is like kicking the man when hes down.

Spare Moody
10-27-2008, 09:14 PM
I dont care for slice, I was laughing while he was getting KO'ed, but this is like kicking the man when hes down.


how so? he's givin him a fair chance. there's no denying that Kimbo didn't deserve to be headlining fights. he always said he wanted to do his best in mma and take his training seriously. now he's got a chance that a LOT of people would kill for.

Mech.
10-27-2008, 09:39 PM
how so? he's givin him a fair chance. there's no denying that Kimbo didn't deserve to be headlining fights. he always said he wanted to do his best in mma and take his training seriously. now he's got a chance that a LOT of people would kill for.

because he knows he wouldnt make it, hes just piling the **** on for kicks.

Its funny about this great opportunity Dana is apparently offering while Kimbo was making how many times the salary of the average UFC fighter?

K enough, I dont want to start sounding like I give a **** about slice.

American_Ninja
10-28-2008, 12:55 AM
Might be surprised where Slice shows up next...
Think about it.

GreatestIam
10-28-2008, 08:07 AM
This is not kicking him while, he's down w3ord is Kimbo may take the offer to prove White wrong.. Id love to see Slice on the Ultimate fighter!

Cuauhtémoc1520
10-28-2008, 09:42 AM
I have said this before and I will say it again. I think all these MMA guys sound like bullies trying to prove to the world that Slice is a bum.

OK, we get it, you fight better than an amature, backyard street brawler....are you happy with yourselves?

I mean, by Dana White actually mentioning Kimbo's name shows he's a hypocrite because one one hand he talks about Kimbo like he's an insect and on the other gives him an invite to capitalize on his popularity.

Kimbo will resurface no doubt. He's got mass appeal and people want to see him fight. He's not a pro, he's not an MMA fighter. He's just some dude that can fight on the streets and is trying to make money and a better life for himself.

You would think that the owner of the biggest MMA company in the world would have better things to do than degrade a guy that just trying to make it in life but I guess not.

YUHHHHHHH!
10-28-2008, 02:19 PM
It's a kick in the face to EliteXC, calling their headlining fighter an unprofessional prospect.

jakkups
10-28-2008, 05:13 PM
I have said this before and I will say it again. I think all these MMA guys sound like bullies trying to prove to the world that Slice is a bum.

OK, we get it, you fight better than an amature, backyard street brawler....are you happy with yourselves?

I mean, by Dana White actually mentioning Kimbo's name shows he's a hypocrite because one one hand he talks about Kimbo like he's an insect and on the other gives him an invite to capitalize on his popularity.

Kimbo will resurface no doubt. He's got mass appeal and people want to see him fight. He's not a pro, he's not an MMA fighter. He's just some dude that can fight on the streets and is trying to make money and a better life for himself.

You would think that the owner of the biggest MMA company in the world would have better things to do than degrade a guy that just trying to make it in life but I guess not.

I think most guys in MMA have earned the right to call Slice a bum from the streets. He's not a Mixed Martial Artist and will never be a Mixed Martial Artist. The guy got a break because he got into some street fights, someone filmed it, uploaded it, got hits on youtube, and now all of a sudden he supposed to be a big legit star. Other MMA fighter's who feel some ill will towards Slice are probably pissed off that a bum from the streets was getting promoted like he was the top end of the sport when he quite clearly isn't. Casual viewers (the people that you refer to who "want" to see him fight) who know nothing about the sport are going to see him and believe that he is supposed to be the best around because he is main eventing already. Fact is he shouldn't have been anywhere near the main event because not once has he fought a main event guy, he fought bums just like him. Guys who have been in this sport for years, earning the right to main event by fighting their way there are allowed to be pissed off when some guy who has no knowledge of what MMA is and has been in it for less then a year gets to jump the queue just because he got some hits on youtube.

TRAVI$
10-28-2008, 05:16 PM
I'd pay for Dana to be locked in the octagon with Kimbo.

Spare Moody
10-28-2008, 05:39 PM
i remember when Kimbo's videos first hit the internet. it became an "internet sensation" as a joke because the MMA community was clownin him for bein all grimey and ghetto and sayin **** like "gotta get mah BREAD". that's all it was, was a joke. no different from the Chuck Norris hype.

by the time people outside the MMA community heard of him we already knew he wasn't much of a serious force as his ground game (or lack of) had already been seen. so when he got these headlines from Elite it was basically a spit in the face to every athlete that really did train hard to get where they got.

and not to say anything against Kimbo. he's a standup guy and has made the most out of the opportunities extended to him. but that's the issue: the opportunity. that opportunity exploited MMA as a joke and, even though Dana White can be an ass at times, he's doing a lot to show MMA as a sport that requires very hard work and discipline to get into.

Kimbo is, by FAR, the luckiest fighter to ever compete in MMA. he has been paid extremely well for piss poor performances and, even before that, he got to be a bodyguard for a bunch of **** directors that drove around in limos to clubs and recruited ***** all night. like i said, he's a cool guy, but he's getting absolutely ZERO sympathy from me and it's absurd to see you guys feeling bad for him.

MMA sucks!!
10-28-2008, 05:51 PM
>>>> he sucks

Austin Drage
10-28-2008, 06:49 PM
If Kimbo was on TUF I'd be rooting for him

I wanted to see him get KTFO like everyone else did just to prove the ****tards (which was mainly elite xc) that he WASNT the GOAT.

Now thats been done I can respect Kimbo as a NATURALLY GIFTED FIGHTER who is just trying to capitalise on his popularity to support his family. He is a real underdog from the streets and to see Dana still trying to **** on him after he has been defeated seems like a lame way to say "NER NER NER NER NER I TOLD YOU SO".

In fact, Kimbo seems like a nice ****ing dude. I'd rather see him in TUF than someone like Junie Browning who Dana seems to think is totally okay despite glassing and attacking the other fighters in the house.

YUHHHHHHH!
10-28-2008, 08:14 PM
I think most guys in MMA have earned the right to call Slice a bum from the streets. He's not a Mixed Martial Artist and will never be a Mixed Martial Artist. The guy got a break because he got into some street fights, someone filmed it, uploaded it, got hits on youtube, and now all of a sudden he supposed to be a big legit star. Other MMA fighter's who feel some ill will towards Slice are probably pissed off that a bum from the streets was getting promoted like he was the top end of the sport when he quite clearly isn't. Casual viewers (the people that you refer to who "want" to see him fight) who know nothing about the sport are going to see him and believe that he is supposed to be the best around because he is main eventing already. Fact is he shouldn't have been anywhere near the main event because not once has he fought a main event guy, he fought bums just like him. Guys who have been in this sport for years, earning the right to main event by fighting their way there are allowed to be pissed off when some guy who has no knowledge of what MMA is and has been in it for less then a year gets to jump the queue just because he got some hits on youtube.

I agree to a degree, but I really hate the way you worded your statement. I can promise you 100% that Kimbo Slice was nothing other than humble. Look at any of his interviews, the guy didn't claim he was a top/main event worthy Mixed Martial Artist. Kimbo is a tough fighter with the pride of a fighter, nothing more. Never once did he boast of his success. He was gracious in victory and defeat and realized that he had an opportunity to get out of the ghetto so he took it.

I think you should watch the way you word things, you are forgetting the bull**** hype machine that started all of this. Not many people mention it during the hating of Kimbo, and it shouldn't be that way. People wouldn't be hating him if Dana White offered him some fights against a few bums in the UFC and labeled him a Stand Up Brawler, which he is. I think we can both agree that the true insult to MMA is Gary Shaw and yet I see his name no where in your post.

jakkups
10-28-2008, 09:49 PM
I agree to a degree, but I really hate the way you worded your statement. I can promise you 100% that Kimbo Slice was nothing other than humble. Look at any of his interviews, the guy didn't claim he was a top/main event worthy Mixed Martial Artist. Kimbo is a tough fighter with the pride of a fighter, nothing more. Never once did he boast of his success. He was gracious in victory and defeat and realized that he had an opportunity to get out of the ghetto so he took it.

I think you should watch the way you word things, you are forgetting the bull**** hype machine that started all of this. Not many people mention it during the hating of Kimbo, and it shouldn't be that way. People wouldn't be hating him if Dana White offered him some fights against a few bums in the UFC and labeled him a Stand Up Brawler, which he is. I think we can both agree that the true insult to MMA is Gary Shaw and yet I see his name no where in your post.

Dude, click on the underlined link in my sig and you will see that I have nothing against Kimbo taking an opportunity like the one he was given. He's an ordinary guy put in an extraordinary set of circumstances and he made it work for a bit. And you know I know who was responsible for promoting him, hyping him and feeding him cans, I've written about this in other posts so don't get nit-picky about it now. He is somewhat a victim of other peoples misjudgement but that doesn't change the fact of what he is in the MMA world which is a bum, nothing personal with the guy, but in this world he is a bum that fought for a bum promotion run by a bunch of bums. Sure he's a tough guy if you mean in life he has had struggles and fought through them, but in MMA, he's just playing a tough fighter and he knows it. If he was as tough as you think he is he would've fought a decent by now wouldn't he. I mean Brock Lesnar has fought more talented fighters in his last 2 fights and is about to fight one of the best around today in his next than Kimbo will probably fight in his entire career. And Kimbo's whole humble and gracious is about as real as Elton John's hair. Of course he's gonna act that way, he's been told to by his handlers and promoters. He's is billed as the good guy so he has to act the good guy, simple marketing, only its flawed once you find out that he is famous for street fights and hanging round the **** industry. That's the real Kimbo, not that powder-puff guy shown on CBS. I mean if he is smart enough to get half a million out of his last performance then he ain't that stupid, if anything he knows exactly what he was doing.

My response was to what the fine gentleman said about other guys in MMA badmouthing Kimbo for being a bum in their sport that has got a lucky break, all of which is true, again nothing personal, but it's the truth. Guys who have given years to the sport and worked hard to get credibility and a reputation for being a true force in the sport have every right to turn around and say that Kimbo is a bum. Why should he be blame free exactly? The way he was allowing himself to be hyped, promoted and used obviously wasn't all EliteXC's doing now was it. He was quite happy for them to say he was the best around because it gives an even sweeter ending when he wins and comes across as a humble nice guy during the post fight interviews. Kimbo is as much responsible for the MMA community's backlash against him as EliteXC is.

And the difference between UFC promoting Kimbo fights and EliteXC doing it is that the UFC wouldn't put him in their main event against some bum which is what EliteXC did. If he was to main event then he would have to fight a main event caliber opponent and he wouldn't do it because he would get killed. If he was to fight a bum, then he would fight on the prelims with the rest of them. If anything he would be the bum being fed to a decent prospect.

punchDrUnK MONK
10-28-2008, 09:51 PM
f it. put him in the ufc. its not always about whos the toughest. also about whos the biggest names... kimbo AND nick diaz should both be in the ufc

Nodogoshi
10-28-2008, 10:52 PM
Dana is clearly just being a ratings whore with this move. Kimbo on TUF would definitely boost the show's ratings.

kenso
10-28-2008, 11:23 PM
personally i think kimbo could win the ultimate fighter. all the fighters on there generally suck. the few that made it on to get titles got good trainers and **** and got really good afterwards.

why rag on kimbo, its not like he ever said he was the best, he had an opportunity and he took it.... anyone else would do the same...

Cuauhtémoc1520
10-29-2008, 09:12 AM
If Kimbo was on TUF I'd be rooting for him

I wanted to see him get KTFO like everyone else did just to prove the ****tards (which was mainly elite xc) that he WASNT the GOAT.

Now thats been done I can respect Kimbo as a NATURALLY GIFTED FIGHTER who is just trying to capitalise on his popularity to support his family. He is a real underdog from the streets and to see Dana still trying to **** on him after he has been defeated seems like a lame way to say "NER NER NER NER NER I TOLD YOU SO".

In fact, Kimbo seems like a nice ****ing dude. I'd rather see him in TUF than someone like Junie Browning who Dana seems to think is totally okay despite glassing and attacking the other fighters in the house.

I agree with everything except wanting to see him get KO'd. What most people don't realize is this dude was homeless for many years, living out of his car.

He's just making a buck and all the MMA nerds who take this **** like it's life need to get one of their own.

Kimbo is just making paper and doing it in the best way he knows how.

jakkups
10-29-2008, 10:22 AM
Britney Spears trys to make a buck doing what she apparently does best, doesn't mean she is good at it or she should get any praise for trying when she quite obviously sucks. It's the same with Slice. Him sucking as an MMA fighter doesn't have anything to do with his previous life. He was homeless, so what? Try living in a third world country with next to no opportunity of a better life, thats a struggle. He still got an opportunity to go to college and was studying before dropping out so he didn't have it that bad in comparison to others. And everyone has obstacles in life, he is no different.

But this isn't about him as a person or him capitalising on someone else giving him an opportunity. Of course he's gonna take it, he'd be stupid not to. This is about Kimbo Slice the fighter, and irregardless of the act that he never said he was the best, and was humble and gracious, it still doesn't take away from the fact that he obviously had no issue with allowing himself to be hyped up as the best out there. EliteXC are just doing what prooters do, but he can take some responsibility for letting them say he's the best when he knows he isn't. As a fighter he sucks, will always suck and that won't change. And while real athletes on the undercards have worked hard for their recognition and paydays, in comes Kimbo jumping the queue and getting all the spotlight because he got a bunch of hits on the internet. They have every right to call him a bum because a fighter he is. Its not an insult to him as a person because it has nothing to do with him or his life outside of MMA, its about him as a fighter.

Cuauhtémoc1520
10-29-2008, 11:01 AM
Britney Spears trys to make a buck doing what she apparently does best, doesn't mean she is good at it or she should get any praise for trying when she quite obviously sucks. It's the same with Slice. Him sucking as an MMA fighter doesn't have anything to do with his previous life. He was homeless, so what? Try living in a third world country with next to no opportunity of a better life, thats a struggle. He still got an opportunity to go to college and was studying before dropping out so he didn't have it that bad in comparison to others. And everyone has obstacles in life, he is no different.

But this isn't about him as a person or him capitalising on someone else giving him an opportunity. Of course he's gonna take it, he'd be stupid not to. This is about Kimbo Slice the fighter, and irregardless of the act that he never said he was the best, and was humble and gracious, it still doesn't take away from the fact that he obviously had no issue with allowing himself to be hyped up as the best out there. EliteXC are just doing what prooters do, but he can take some responsibility for letting them say he's the best when he knows he isn't. As a fighter he sucks, will always suck and that won't change. And while real athletes on the undercards have worked hard for their recognition and paydays, in comes Kimbo jumping the queue and getting all the spotlight because he got a bunch of hits on the internet. They have every right to call him a bum because a fighter he is. Its not an insult to him as a person because it has nothing to do with him or his life outside of MMA, its about him as a fighter.

The Britney Spears analogy was about the dumbest thing I have heard today. Britney Spears isn't an athlete, two very different things.

You are just a typical hater, angry because the sport you hold so highly, put Kimbo Slice up and made him a headliner.

I equate Kimbo to Butterbean in boxing. Nobody in boxing was hating on Butterbean, even though he was headlining fight cards because they knew who he was, a club fighter at best.

Same with Kimbo, he is a club level fighter in MMA and for some reason, people like you that think MMA is some holy establishment, isn't vunerable to the same thing that boxing has seen for over 100 years.

Dude, he's just a street fighter who was offered money tod o something he does anyway...fight. He would have been stupid for not taking the opportunity and money, anyone would have.

If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at Elite XC and Shaw. They promoted him and tried to make him something he wasn't ready for.

Dana White is a hypocrite for trying to capitalize on Kimbo now as well for inviting him on to the show for next season.

It's ok man, Kimbo lost, you got what you wanted. The stereotypical image of a large black man with gold teeth beating everyone up has been defeated, you can rest easy now..........

jakkups
10-29-2008, 11:35 AM
The Britney Spears analogy was about the dumbest thing I have heard today. Britney Spears isn't an athlete, two very different things.

You are just a typical hater, angry because the sport you hold so highly, put Kimbo Slice up and made him a headliner.

I equate Kimbo to Butterbean in boxing. Nobody in boxing was hating on Butterbean, even though he was headlining fight cards because they knew who he was, a club fighter at best.

Same with Kimbo, he is a club level fighter in MMA and for some reason, people like you that think MMA is some holy establishment, isn't vunerable to the same thing that boxing has seen for over 100 years.


All of what you said with regards to me is an assumption because you obviously misinterpret what was written in that it is me who holds this ill will to Kimbo when I quite clearly stated that I understood what the FIGHTERS in MMA felt when they would downgrade Slice as a bum in THEIR sport. If I, in your eyes, am a "typical hater" of Kimbo, then you my friend are a typical nuthugger and since he represents your hometown I am not suprised one bit. I am not angry at MMA for putting Slice in the position he was, if anything I was glad because it got the sport some exposure albeit not entirely positive. Again you assume this, nothing more. And the Britney Spear's thing wasn't a comparison of crafts between the two. It was in response to your comment on Kimbo trying to make a buck doing what he apparently he does best. Just because he does something to make a living doesn't mean other MMA fighters have to respect him as a fighter especially when he isn't good at all.



Dude, he's just a street fighter who was offered money tod o something he does anyway...fight. He would have been stupid for not taking the opportunity and money, anyone would have.

If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at Elite XC and Shaw. They promoted him and tried to make him something he wasn't ready for.

Dana White is a hypocrite for trying to capitalize on Kimbo now as well for inviting him on to the show for next season.


Again I know what he is and his story, and so what, they're are people far worse off than he is or ever was that don't even get the opportunity and if they did I wouldn't blame them for taking it just like Kimbo did. It's not about his personal life or anything outside of MMA, it's about his perception in the MMA world by other fighters. Sure promoters are to blame for hyping him up and puporting the myth of Kimbo, but Kimbo was quite happy to let them do that and even if he didn't agree with it or believe it himself, he was bound to have a backlash from the MMA world one way or another, whether it be from fans, fighters, promoters or writers alike, its just the nature of the beast. Am I angry at Gary Shaw, somewhat due to him being so foolish to think that people would buy into Kimbo on a serious level, but moreso because he had a great opportunity himself to promote fight cards with a decent enough company, half decent talent and a primetime TV deal, and he screws it up by putting all the emphasis on a street fighter with some internet fame. I would act suprised but promoters are what they are and this sort of thing is common practice. It's not anger, its disappointment. And as for Dana, well you can look at it from two angles, one being that he is trying to capitalising on Kimbo's fame, the other is that Kimbo is getting ANOTHER opportunity at trying to make it in MMA. Personally, I think it is both, Dana's smart enough to know what some starpower can do for TUF and Kimbo knows that he can get another shot at glory if he is serious about his MMA career. I'm sure he was serious when he was getting half a million for to fight hasbeens or neverwas fighters but how serious will he be if he takes a huge paycut and fights against guys younger, more skilled, hungry and motivated to fight. My guess is not at all.


It's ok man, Kimbo lost, you got what you wanted. The stereotypical image of a large black man with gold teeth beating everyone up has been defeated, you can rest easy now..........

WTF is this all about exactly? Why would I be happy with a stereotypical image of a black guy getting beaten up? My mother's black for one thing so that wouldn't please me. Please, don't take all this to heart like the world is against you so you feel the need to attack others for expressing their opinions. You live in the USA right? It's called free speech sir. What pleased me was when he did get beat, the myth created was destroyed. Kimbo the man and Kimbo the myth are two entirely different things, one I respect to a degree the other I don't care for.

Kakutogi-Gumi
10-29-2008, 11:58 AM
You would think that the owner of the biggest MMA company in the world would have better things to do than degrade a guy that just trying to make it in life but I guess not.

This isn't degrading. It's giving an opportunity to Kimbo to show that he can be more then the hype allowed him to be. If he can make it past the 32 under Hendo/Ace guidence and put on an impressive performance if he makes it to the finals, then he'll be looked at as an up and coming fighter.

I hate Dana, but this is a fair shot and shows that he's willing to be proven wrong.

Cuauhtémoc1520
10-29-2008, 02:52 PM
All of what you said with regards to me is an assumption because you obviously misinterpret what was written in that it is me who holds this ill will to Kimbo when I quite clearly stated that I understood what the FIGHTERS in MMA felt when they would downgrade Slice as a bum in THEIR sport. If I, in your eyes, am a "typical hater" of Kimbo, then you my friend are a typical nuthugger and since he represents your hometown I am not suprised one bit. I am not angry at MMA for putting Slice in the position he was, if anything I was glad because it got the sport some exposure albeit not entirely positive. Again you assume this, nothing more. And the Britney Spear's thing wasn't a comparison of crafts between the two. It was in response to your comment on Kimbo trying to make a buck doing what he apparently he does best. Just because he does something to make a living doesn't mean other MMA fighters have to respect him as a fighter especially when he isn't good at all.


Miami is not my home town but I live here now. I respect anyone who is willing to work hard and try to do something to better his/her life. Whether people in this world have it worse than Kimbo isn't the point, the point is he's doing something for himself. Anyone who enjoys seeing him lose just because he's making money and they are not are HATERS.


Again I know what he is and his story, and so what, they're are people far worse off than he is or ever was that don't even get the opportunity and if they did I wouldn't blame them for taking it just like Kimbo did. It's not about his personal life or anything outside of MMA, it's about his perception in the MMA world by other fighters. Sure promoters are to blame for hyping him up and puporting the myth of Kimbo, but Kimbo was quite happy to let them do that and even if he didn't agree with it or believe it himself, he was bound to have a backlash from the MMA world one way or another, whether it be from fans, fighters, promoters or writers alike, its just the nature of the beast. Am I angry at Gary Shaw, somewhat due to him being so foolish to think that people would buy into Kimbo on a serious level, but moreso because he had a great opportunity himself to promote fight cards with a decent enough company, half decent talent and a primetime TV deal, and he screws it up by putting all the emphasis on a street fighter with some internet fame. I would act suprised but promoters are what they are and this sort of thing is common practice. It's not anger, its disappointment. And as for Dana, well you can look at it from two angles, one being that he is trying to capitalising on Kimbo's fame, the other is that Kimbo is getting ANOTHER opportunity at trying to make it in MMA. Personally, I think it is both, Dana's smart enough to know what some starpower can do for TUF and Kimbo knows that he can get another shot at glory if he is serious about his MMA career. I'm sure he was serious when he was getting half a million for to fight hasbeens or neverwas fighters but how serious will he be if he takes a huge paycut and fights against guys younger, more skilled, hungry and motivated to fight. My guess is not at all.


Kimbo is 33 years old with ZERO MMA experience. I think he's done very well for himself considering those circumstances.


WTF is this all about exactly? Why would I be happy with a stereotypical image of a black guy getting beaten up? My mother's black for one thing so that wouldn't please me. Please, don't take all this to heart like the world is against you so you feel the need to attack others for expressing their opinions. You live in the USA right? It's called free speech sir. What pleased me was when he did get beat, the myth created was destroyed. Kimbo the man and Kimbo the myth are two entirely different things, one I respect to a degree the other I don't care for.


I don't know because you have a gif. of him getting beaten up? Maybe that gave me a clue. Yes I live in the USA, am a citizen and voted yesterday, thanks though. I'm not taking anything to heart, it's the contrary. I haven't seen this much hate for a fighter since I don't know when.

Don't like Kimbo don't watch him or talk about him, it's very easy. I just have to sit back and laugh at the big deal made about him and how people loved to watch him get KO'd out for no lagitimate reason at all. Other than the typical BS like "He gives MMA a bad name" or "He makes headliner money and it's not fair". In the words of Gina Cerrano, "Anyone who doesn't like Kimbo because he makes the moeny he makes should stop hating and market themselves better."

Spare Moody
10-29-2008, 03:22 PM
typical BS like "He gives MMA a bad name" or "He makes headliner money and it's not fair". In the words of Gina Cerrano, "Anyone who doesn't like Kimbo because he makes the moeny he makes should stop hating and market themselves better."

HE doesn't give MMA a bad name but the fact that he was signed to headline tomato can bouts in the first prime time network deal DOES. i don't hate on Kimbo and agree that he's got great heart. but Shaw and Elite are pathetic in their attempts to exploit the sport.

They could have used the Kimbo hype to draw interest but to put all of their eggs in one basket and make him a headliner is a complete joke. Lawler would have been a much more suitable headlining pick that would have been wayyyy more entertaining for outsiders as well as satisfied existing MMA fans.

and Carano isn't one to talk about marketing. she has very little competition when compared to a male fighter and is drop dead gorgeous. not to take away from her skills, which she clearly has, but her marketing is easily covered.

Derranged
10-29-2008, 04:11 PM
I have said this before and I will say it again. I think all these MMA guys sound like bullies trying to prove to the world that Slice is a bum.

OK, we get it, you fight better than an amature, backyard street brawler....are you happy with yourselves?

I mean, by Dana White actually mentioning Kimbo's name shows he's a hypocrite because one one hand he talks about Kimbo like he's an insect and on the other gives him an invite to capitalize on his popularity.

Kimbo will resurface no doubt. He's got mass appeal and people want to see him fight. He's not a pro, he's not an MMA fighter. He's just some dude that can fight on the streets and is trying to make money and a better life for himself.



You would think that the owner of the biggest MMA company in the world would have better things to do than degrade a guy that just trying to make it in life but I guess not.

Well said chief.

I dont know what it is, but nearly everyone in the UFC just come off as obnoxious pricks, including White, at least they seem like that to me.

Cuauhtémoc1520
10-29-2008, 04:35 PM
Well said chief.

I dont know what it is, but nearly everyone in the UFC just come off as obnoxious pricks, including White, at least they seem like that to me.

Well as a fighter you have to have some sort of an ego. I know because when I fought amature in my youth, I thought I could rule the world. I get that aspect of it, what I don't get is the jealousy that MMA fighters have with Kimbo over his success.

I understand that Kimbo is just a street fighter, I get that. I just have never been jealous of another fighter if he's getting better venues than me or anything like that. In time you will see who the best fighter is and we all knew Kimbo would get exposed sooner or later.

I'm just glad for anyone making a buck or two doing what the love. They want to pay him all that money, then let them. It's not his fault.

jakkups
10-29-2008, 08:51 PM
Kimbo is 33 years old with ZERO MMA experience. I think he's done very well for himself considering those circumstances.


Fighting 2 shot hasbeens, a never was, and then losing to a guy who he outweighed by 30lbs in 14 seconds is rubbish. At least with a guy like Brock Lesnar he can get credit for being in the position he is, because he fought a former UFC HW champion, a former PRIDE HW Title challenger, and in his next fight Randy Couture. Kimbo was fed cans and got beat by a can as well, that in my eyes isn't doing very well.

I don't know because you have a gif. of him getting beaten up? Maybe that gave me a clue. Yes I live in the USA, am a citizen and voted yesterday, thanks though. I'm not taking anything to heart, it's the contrary. I haven't seen this much hate for a fighter since I don't know when.

Don't like Kimbo don't watch him or talk about him, it's very easy. I just have to sit back and laugh at the big deal made about him and how people loved to watch him get KO'd out for no lagitimate reason at all. Other than the typical BS like "He gives MMA a bad name" or "He makes headliner money and it's not fair". In the words of Gina Cerrano, "Anyone who doesn't like Kimbo because he makes the moeny he makes should stop hating and market themselves better."

Once again assumptions. I don't "hate" on him as you so eloquently put it. Click on my user name at the bottom of the quote and you will see that I also said in that post that I praise Kimbo for doing something like this because it seems as though he actually loves it. The gif in my signature is in response to those fans who truly believed that Kimbo was the real deal and that the MMA world was going to become the Kimbo show. It's wasn't aimed at Kimbo the man, it was at those who thought he was the man.

You misunderstood the whole point, Kimbo as a man is from all accounts a nice guy albeit his checkered past. Kimbo the fighter I someone I have every right to talk about whether I like him or not. I mean if you don't like the fact that someone doesn't agree with your point of view then talk or discuss, it's very easy. I never said "he gives MMA a bad name" or "he makes headliner money and its not fair" you're just putting words in my mouth, nice try. And the Gina Carano quote, nice try again at trying to make out that I have a problem with the money he makes. Keep clutching at straws, have a nice day.

crillz
10-29-2008, 11:01 PM
Dana White is a **** sucker yo, real talk he a crab. people like Dana White talk a lot of ****, they beg to get punched in they face and then hide behind the barriers fighters face. see, Kimbo can't hit Dana White without losing a whole lot more than the teeth that prick would lose, he'll lose too much and now Dana White would just add no class to the already bull**** remarks he made.. he sucked Brock Lesnar's dick more times than Sable yet Brock loses his 1st fight. Kimbo, a streetfighter gets a 3 win run before he loses. Dana is just tight that EliteXC took something he chose to pass on and made it work. no different than the people who had Alicia Keys and dropped her before J Records got her and in this case J Records was EliteXC.

I can't see it no other way because you using his name and face just like EliteXC was, using the fact he ain't a elite MMA fighter but that he wants to fight except EliteXc did it to create more buzz for a positive outcome for Kimbo while UFC, what is SUPPOSED to be the best MMA sport is acting like **** suckers and trying to degrade him for no reason by putting him on a reality TV show amongst many fighters whom ALL have had YEARS of training, he isn't giving him an opportunity he's just using him for ratings because then all people want to see is how Kimbo does. Kimbo didn't claim he was no legend or none of that ****, he even showed respect to these clowns and look at the bull**** they pull. I watch TUF only for the FIGHTERS and the sport but I can't stand UFC, I like MMA but hate UFC and things like that are the reason why.

Spare Moody
10-30-2008, 12:18 AM
Dana White is a **** sucker yo, real talk he a crab. people like Dana White talk a lot of ****, they beg to get punched in they face and then hide behind the barriers fighters face. see, Kimbo can't hit Dana White without losing a whole lot more than the teeth that prick would lose, he'll lose too much and now Dana White would just add no class to the already bull**** remarks he made.. he sucked Brock Lesnar's dick more times than Sable yet Brock loses his 1st fight. Kimbo, a streetfighter gets a 3 win run before he loses. Dana is just tight that EliteXC took something he chose to pass on and made it work. no different than the people who had Alicia Keys and dropped her before J Records got her and in this case J Records was EliteXC.

I can't see it no other way because you using his name and face just like EliteXC was, using the fact he ain't a elite MMA fighter but that he wants to fight except EliteXc did it to create more buzz for a positive outcome for Kimbo while UFC, what is SUPPOSED to be the best MMA sport is acting like **** suckers and trying to degrade him for no reason by putting him on a reality TV show amongst many fighters whom ALL have had YEARS of training, he isn't giving him an opportunity he's just using him for ratings because then all people want to see is how Kimbo does. Kimbo didn't claim he was no legend or none of that ****, he even showed respect to these clowns and look at the bull**** they pull. I watch TUF only for the FIGHTERS and the sport but I can't stand UFC, I like MMA but hate UFC and things like that are the reason why.

1. Brock fought some of the best heavyweight fighters in MMA. Kimbo was consistently matched against washups and tomato cans to ensure an easy victory. and even THEN the victories were a struggle. he finally lost when somebody came out of the woodworks......on several hours notice!

2. Elite XC DIDN'T make anything happen because they fell flat on their face. putting a ton of money into a hype doesn't prove talent. it proves $$$ buys bull**** for idiots.

3. UFC did degrade him but that's just because he's not a fraction of MMA talent as so many other athletes are. granted, Dana should have taken the focus away from him and driven more into the asshat organization that made the hype. but he's still extending Kimbo an opportunity to prove what Kimbo's always wanted to prove from the start anyways!

4. you're saying it's unfair to match him up against guys that have "years" of MMA experience. last time i checked, Kimbo's been street fighting all his life and has spent the last year training with Bas Rutten. that's the best trainer anyone could ask for and you're saying he's being treated unfair? are you ****ing kidding me???

Spare Moody
10-30-2008, 12:20 AM
as it stands i've made several arguements in this thread that nobody has bothered countering because the bottom line is that Dana's challenge is anything but unfair.

Palma
10-30-2008, 02:27 AM
Kimbo should just try out the show if he is serious about his chosen career. I think the experience would be good for his career. I am sure the show will lead to other projects. It's better than fighting for chump change on the streets and being Milf-Hunters pet goon.