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Phone Jack
10-28-2003, 06:41 PM
Apparently Shootbox brought in a top notch Judo player to spar with Silva. He was a big Canadian, his name excapes me right now.

Anyway they were rolling while Silva was wearing his BJJ gi and the Judo player choked him out with a cross arm choke!! This was a huge problem as Silva told him "thats enough' in Portugse (sp?) but the Canadian didn't understand and kept the pressure on.

This started a huge problem with the Shootbox members and the Canadian Judo players. Luckily cooler heads prevailed before it got out of hand.

Basically, Silva was considering wearing his gi in his upcomming match with Yoshida, but after this, I doubt it. I can't believe he was even considering wearing it.

And Silva is no longer rolling with Judo players in case your wondering.

www.b-j-j.com

realkaps
10-28-2003, 06:44 PM
Wow, thanks for the info man. And welcome to Global. I want to see Silva fight Chuck or Rampage but if Yoshida beats him I will be a very happy man........

Curly Howard
10-28-2003, 06:45 PM
Thanks for the info. I was wondering if Silva would spar with a Judo player for this fight. I'm sure he'll adapt to it.

Welcome to the forums, Phone Jack

mmafanman
10-28-2003, 06:50 PM
I've been saying it for the past few weeks. Silva should not be taking Yoshida lightly. Yoshida's vastly underrated strength, his size, his world-class Judo skills and the fact that he'll be wearing a gi might just be enough to pull off the upset.

Then again, Silva could just go roid rage on him and knock Yoshida the **** out in the first round.

Fury Dragon
10-28-2003, 06:50 PM
Escape.

Interesting stuff. Why would he even consider wearing his gi?

realkaps
10-28-2003, 06:54 PM
Silva in a gi, in japan = ratings.........

Phone Jack
10-28-2003, 07:04 PM
Yea, Yosh is underrated because he is only good at one thing, Judo. But he is an expert at it.

Silva must be aware of that or he might get surprised with a choke or an arm bar!

Thanks guys, happy to be aboard!

lightweight
10-28-2003, 07:06 PM
It's Harold Howard, isn't it!!!!


:)

realkaps
10-28-2003, 07:15 PM
Its SIlva's fault that he got choked out. He may have told him thats enough, but he should of just tapped. No confusion there. It is a universal language. Tappa tappa tappa......

Curly Howard
10-28-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by kaps
Its SIlva's fault that he got choked out. He may have told him thats enough, but he should of just tapped. No confusion there. It is a universal language. Tappa tappa tappa......

unless you can't move your hands

realkaps
10-28-2003, 07:20 PM
What choke have you been in where you couldnt move your hands?

Curly Howard
10-28-2003, 07:21 PM
I don't know I've never fought anyone in a Gi

wondermut
10-28-2003, 07:42 PM
You can get into some strange spots...verbal tapping and tappping your foot work also...i should know

Phone Jack
10-29-2003, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by kaps
Its SIlva's fault that he got choked out. He may have told him thats enough, but he should of just tapped. No confusion there. It is a universal language. Tappa tappa tappa...... But I've heard that Silva is a proud man and wont even tap out when he's rolling with his own Shootbox members!!

realkaps
10-29-2003, 11:42 AM
Too me that doesnt sound proud, it sounds stupid. Why risk injury? If I am rolling or sparring and I get caught, oh well. Im not going to risk hurting myself and not be able to fight because of my ego.....

lightweight
10-29-2003, 11:47 AM
I'm sure he gives in training otherwise he'd never make it to a fight, in a fight though he's said he'll never tap.

Nuno
10-29-2003, 11:59 AM
Silva in a gi would be funny to see.......he better stick to what he's best at.....KOing mofos.........

Phone Jack
10-29-2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by kaps
Too me that doesnt sound proud, it sounds stupid. Why risk injury? If I am rolling or sparring and I get caught, oh well. Im not going to risk hurting myself and not be able to fight because of my ego..... Thats a good point, the Gracies have that type of mentality. In a legit MMA match they have all said they will NEVER tap.

But in practice, they tap to each other to save their bodies for legit MMA competition.

realkaps
10-29-2003, 12:06 PM
That is the right idea. Not tapping in practice is just plain stupid....

realkaps
10-29-2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by lightweight
I'm sure he gives in training otherwise he'd never make it to a fight, in a fight though he's said he'll never tap.

Someone else said that before. Whats his name? Oh yeah, Tank Abbott......

Phone Jack
10-29-2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Nuno
Silva in a gi would be funny to see.. He's a brown belt in BJJ you know ....

GeNeRaL
10-29-2003, 12:10 PM
Its easy to say that, and if anyone truly abides by it, they could be done in MMA for good. Foolish IMO.

Phone Jack
10-29-2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by GeNeRaL
Its easy to say that, and if anyone truly abides by it, they could be done in MMA for good. Foolish IMO. You mean tapping in practice or in a legit MMA match?

wondermut
10-29-2003, 12:20 PM
I thought he was a purple....

lightweight
10-29-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by GeNeRaL
Its easy to say that, and if anyone truly abides by it, they could be done in MMA for good. Foolish IMO.

Enson and Frye don't tap, among others.

realkaps
10-29-2003, 12:23 PM
I think he means in an MMA match, this is true also. In a fight you might want to bare the pain longer and try for an escape, but usually if you cant escape and dont tap the ref will stop it. Or your arm could look like Renzo's after the Sakuraba fight. Oyama didnt tap too Ryan either, and now he has permanent damage in his arm....

realkaps
10-29-2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by lightweight
Enson and Frye don't tap, among others.

Frye tapped to Yoshida didnt he? And Enson is nuts....

Phone Jack
10-29-2003, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by wondermut
I thought he was a purple.... No, he's brown now. He has/had been a purple belt for a few years now. But now he's brown.

lightweight
10-29-2003, 12:28 PM
Yoshida vs frye was a ref stoppage.

realkaps
10-29-2003, 12:29 PM
Who is Chute boxe's BJJ instructor?

realkaps
10-29-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by lightweight
Yoshida vs frye was a ref stoppage.

Okay...

Phone Jack
10-29-2003, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by kaps
Frye tapped to Yoshida didnt he? And Enson is nuts.... No he didn't, he didn't even scream! How scary is that?

Phone Jack
10-29-2003, 12:41 PM
That has to help to phyc out your opponent knowing he will NEVER tap out no matter what!!

wondermut
10-29-2003, 12:43 PM
Pride sometimes gets the better of ya and you dont tap.....i tend to try to fight outta stuff and i pay the next few days...

GeNeRaL
10-29-2003, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by kaps
I think he means in an MMA match, this is true also. In a fight you might want to bare the pain longer and try for an escape, but usually if you cant escape and dont tap the ref will stop it. Or your arm could look like Renzo's after the Sakuraba fight. Oyama didnt tap too Ryan either, and now he has permanent damage in his arm....

Yes, this is what i meant. Is it worth permanent damage to your body; broken arm, etc. just to not be tapped in a single match in which most likely if you are in the position to be tapping you will be losing anyhow? Imagine a hardcore smother even, not being able to get any air, thats some dangerous stuff if you abide by the no-tap mentality.

Phone Jack
10-29-2003, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by GeNeRaL
Yes, this is what i meant. Is it worth permanent damage to your body; broken arm, etc. just to not be tapped in a single match in which most likely if you are in the position to be tapping you will be losing anyhow? Imagine a hardcore smother even, not being able to get any air, thats some dangerous stuff if you abide by the no-tap mentality. Well yea, but Silva did say 'thats enough' so he did verbally call an end to the session. Problem was the canadian didn't understand him.

But he did call and end to the sparring.

GeNeRaL
10-29-2003, 12:57 PM
language barriers i understand, im mainly referring to him saying he'll never tap in a match. :)

DOGGx0
10-29-2003, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by kaps
Silva in a gi, in japan = ratings.........

agreed.


Thanks for the info, Phone Jack! Welcome to GlobalMMA.

Phone Jack
10-29-2003, 07:57 PM
I think this little inciedent helped Silva, he will take judo more seriously now.