How can a girl run up to hug you and then go off with some guy.
I just remembered this from thrusday night. Man that's sad.

Because most of them are *****es and sluts.......same goes for most guys.

A friend of mine is fond of saying "That's why they're all whores."

I hate to say it but in general, I really do have a very dim view of most women.

- J.

I need to become a man whore

You should have grabbed her ass, flirted with her or given her a token of your appreciation.

Chicks dig it when you grab their ass or wolf whistle at them. It shows you appreciate the female form in all it's splendor.

- J.

Originally posted by The Jake
A friend of mine is fond of saying "That's why they're all whores."

I hate to say it but in general, I really do have a very dim view of most women.

- J.

Your married, so you had better have a dim view of most women

Originally posted by Creed
Your married, so you had better have a dim view of most women

Hahaha!

Well exactly!

Most women just beg for attention or to get their way. If they do not get it they will do what ever they want to get it. They have no compunction or morals about ****ing other people over, including other women, to get what they want. They have ridiculuously low self asteem and ****ty egos that need to be constantly stroked. They have way to many insecurities and fail to look at issues objectively.

People wonder why some guys never date women or just **** them and dump them it's because THEY TOO MUCH ****ING TROUBLE!

And when it DOES happen to them, rather than take time out for a moment of self-reflection they'd rather demonise the guy for their own faults rather than examine themselves.

As for finding Arju, well, I got lucky :)

- J.

I don't even care about ****ing them. I just want a girlfriend.

Originally posted by The Jake
People wonder why some guys never date women or just **** them and dump them it's because THEY TOO MUCH ****ING TROUBLE!

And when it DOES happen to them, rather than take time out for a moment of self-reflection they'd rather demonise the guy for their own faults rather than examine themselves.


I used to think they were too much trouble. Then I fell in love. Then I got dumped. Now I believe they are too much trouble again.

The opposite of the second part can also be true. Some people relect on their own faults too much and refuse to acknowledge the faults or their former partner. I know I am guilty of this.

Originally posted by Gman
I don't even care about ****ing them. I just want a girlfriend.
Dude, relationships ****ing own if you both care about each other but the break ups suck. **** dating. I am done. I retire from the game. I played, I scored and now I will step away before I become desperate. I'll probably return one day but not for a while.

Thats the problem I can talk to the sluts in the bar but when it comes to somebody I like, I get scared don't tell them how I fell and act very cold to them sometimes.

gman...stop going to clubs, they are the worst places to look for girlfriends - there's a reason why most of those single *****es are single, mental problems or stds.

I stand by my statement.

I married Arju when I realised she is not like the other hundreds of hoes out there who are just looking for an easy ride and a meal ticket and would happily go behind my back and **** other guys. I married someone who loves me, will take care of me and challenges me. She completes me. I'm pretty sure she'd say the same about me.

It takes time for **** like that to happen and it can't be rushed. I'm no relationship guru but I can say that the reason I never dated many chicks or been with many is because they are too much trouble and I was (for the most part) very selective over who I was with or who I choose to date.

Gman, if you want a girlfriend, when you find one you like, you need to make your intentions plain. Spell it out to her (like we tell women to spell **** out to us). That's the hardest part. If you don't tell a chick you want to date her, she'll just assume you want to be friends. We all know where that leaves ya. So don't. Just don't pick any chick. Take the time to know them first.

- J.

Yeah but I don't have any intrest beside school that have woman involved. You can't met woman at niagara brazilian jiu-jitsu or Port Colborne Rugby Club.

Bars are great for picking up but they are not the place for you to be cruising for a suitable partner or companion for any serious length of time.

- J.

I couldn't even read all this bull**** it sucked so bad. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the sum total of women screwed by all the previous posters in this thread is less than 5, because of the little bit I did read, you ****s sure didn't know what the **** you were talking about.

Originally posted by Gman
Yeah but I don't have any intrest beside school that have woman involved. You can't met woman at niagara brazilian jiu-jitsu or Port Colborne Rugby Club.

Yeah I've seen most of the rugby chicks.... ughh... although Seldom says there are some lookers in Adelaide :)

Are there any social functions at your school? At our university we had a beer club called the DUFF club, they were in charge of the biggest parties and pissups at my university. It was also the most popular.

Failing that, maybe you should take up dancing lessons and pick up the tango haha :)

- J.

Originally posted by Zen420
I couldn't even read all this bull**** it sucked so bad. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the sum total of women screwed by all the previous posters in this thread is less than 5, because of the little bit I did read, you ****s sure didn't know what the **** you were talking about.

Enlighten us oh Zen Master.

- J.

I don't have the time. In school, training and I want to get a part time job now. I'm not adding another thing to that list.

gman, so pick up at school. Get to know some girls, take them out for a coffee, not nessesarily a date, just get comfortable around chicks (some people say you can't have girls for friends, I digress - one of my best friends is a girl), once you get confident you won't come off as a desperate mo****a.

I personally found that the most rewarding relationships are usually with those who you have known for a long time, or know well - reason being is that all the superficial barriers are gone and you're only dating them because of who they are rather than what they look like or how wet they get when they grind on your leg.

here's some fortune cookie philosophy that I live by - take it's lesson figuratively, rather than literally:

"To gain friendship, offer friendship" - or in other words, in order to recieve something, give something first. It has always worked for me.

Originally posted by Zen420
I couldn't even read all this bull**** it sucked so bad. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the sum total of women screwed by all the previous posters in this thread is less than 5, because of the little bit I did read, you ****s sure didn't know what the **** you were talking about.
Only one for me. And I am proud of that. I loved her and she loved me. I refuse to sleep with anyone I don't love.

Originally posted by Magic Man

I personally found that the most rewarding relationships are usually with those who you have known for a long time, or know well - reason being is that all the superficial barriers are gone and you're only dating them because of who they are rather than what they look like or how wet they get when they grind on your leg.

****ing A

Yeah but I just can't do that. I can't stand telling a girl that I like her I'm scared to death of it.

Originally posted by Magic Man
gman, so pick up at school. Get to know some girls, take them out for a coffee, not nessesarily a date, just get comfortable around chicks (some people say you can't have girls for friends, I digress - one of my best friends is a girl), once you get confident you won't come off as a desperate mo****a.

I personally found that the most rewarding relationships are usually with those who you have known for a long time, or know well - reason being is that all the superficial barriers are gone and you're only dating them because of who they are rather than what they look like or how wet they get when they grind on your leg.

here's some fortune cookie philosophy that I live by - take it's lesson figuratively, rather than literally:

"To gain friendship, offer friendship" - or in other words, in order to recieve something, give something first. It has always worked for me.

That's pretty much my opinion.

That said, if you're busy with what you're doing and happy doing it, then don't change your routine for no-one. If you're having fun training and doing ****, then don't try and add to it. I had times when I was university where I was training, studying hard and trying to learn about computers in more ways than what was being taught at university. I spent time with my mates doing it and had a blast. I was happy and productive and learning new things and I didn't have no woman demanding I spend time with her or trying to cut into my time with friends. Seriously, this happens when you date someone. And when I eventually started dating, guess what was the first thing I had to compromise?

Like I said, chicks are often not worth the hassle. Your post indicates a sense of inflexibility on your behalf. Well how are you gonna juggle a woman on top of that schedule if something is not prepared to give???

If you want someone in your life then you have to be prepaired to make way for them, make time for them and yes, make sacrifices for them.

That said, I say just do what makes you happy and **** searching for a chick. They usually find you when you least expect it.

You know what they say about a watched pot never boils.... ?

- J.

Originally posted by Gman
Yeah but I just can't do that. I can't stand telling a girl that I like her I'm scared to death of it.
Dude just ****ing do it. Tell her to get msn or aim and talk with her on the net and tell her then. All you got to do it type "I would like to take you out sometime". Just type it and hit the enter button. It's hard yes, you seem to be alot like me in this regard. Here is a kinda what happened with me and Kaila:

Kaila - "No guys like me, no one would want to be with me"
Me - "I only wish I could find a girl as great as you"

It's not like you have to make the words come out. Just type that ****. Or write her a note and just say "here" and throw it at her or something.

Ah, yes, well g, the only way you will get over that fear is by doing it. Believe me, the girl will not think less of you for saying it.

If they reject you so what? Live and learn, the second time is half as difficult, and in next to no time, you don't even get butterflies anymore.

The first step is always the hardest - best thing to do is prepare yourself, what you're going to say, after a while it becomes pretty easy and you'll be able to have conversations with virtually any girl you want. Intro lines are important, they can make you seem like a desperate jackass or someone worth talking to and maybe getting know better. Things like:

"Excuse me, I was just sitting over there having my lunch when I noticed you and I just thought I'd come over and say that you have a really positive energy about you. My name's x I was wondering if you'd care for some company?"

Take it from there, if she says she's got a boyfriend or husband, or waiting for someone then take the cue and move along. No big loss...conversely, you could pursue it if you think she's worth it.

One thing you should remember about girls - they love to talk, which is why clubs are ****ing **** for picking up decent girls, you can't ****ing hear each other. Drop an open ended question, something like "So, what do you do? School, college, etc, etc..." they will talk, just listen to what she says and she will drop cues for you to get her to talk about something else, and so on.

With almost practice and minimal input, you can get a girl to talk for hours.

http://us.st5.yimg.com/store4.yimg.com/I/demotivators_1765_6091818

- J.

Maybe I should just sit back right now. I think I'm overlooking the fact that I disire a girlfriend but I don't need one. School and getting another fight are what I'm all about right now.

Originally posted by Gman
Yeah but I just can't do that. I can't stand telling a girl that I like her I'm scared to death of it.

A mate of mine used to tell me it's a numbers game. The more times you try, the less decensitized you get to it. The more people you ask, statistically there is also a greater probability at least one will say yes.

Everyone has a fear of rejection, including guys. You just gotta realise even if you get rejected, you are still no worse off than were you are now and it's not the end of the world.

- J.

Originally posted by HockeyFighter
Dude just ****ing do it. Tell her to get msn or aim and talk with her on the net and tell her then. All you got to do it type "I would like to take you out sometime". Just type it and hit the enter button. It's hard yes, you seem to be alot like me in this regard. Here is a kinda what happened with me and Kaila:

Kaila - "No guys like me, no one would want to be with me"
Me - "I only wish I could find a girl as great as you"

It's not like you have to make the words come out. Just type that ****. Or write her a note and just say "here" and throw it at her or something.

let me advise against this...don't ask a girl out over IM. Generally, they'll think you're a weirdo - reason being:

"This guy doesn't have the balls to ask me out in person/over the phone"

Originally posted by Gman
Maybe I should just sit back right now. I think I'm overlooking the fact that I disire a girlfriend but I don't need one. School and getting another fight are what I'm all about right now.

You really do need to decide what you want more, that's for sure.

- J.

Originally posted by Gman
Maybe I should just sit back right now. I think I'm overlooking the fact that I disire a girlfriend but I don't need one. School and getting another fight are what I'm all about right now.

you want to be lying to yourself when you're 35?

Magic that's harsh mate. I'm just saying when you're young chicks shouldn't be his only priority.

Zen love guru has yet to post, so clearly he's exhausted his well of knowledge on this subject.

- J.

To me Jake, it sounds like he's trying to procrastinate again - gman always talks about how he has trouble with girls.

To me, it sounds like g is trying to put this off further - its not like girls and college/fighting are two exclusive options, they're not.

Originally posted by Magic Man
To me Jake, it sounds like he's trying to procrastinate again - gman always talks about how he has trouble with girls.

To me, it sounds like g is trying to put this off further - its not like girls and college/fighting are two exclusive options, they're not.

True. But my point is when a relationship comes around you have to prioritise. And when that happens, his fighting may not take the same priority as it does now.

Capiche?

- J.

No one ever needs a girlfriend. Gman, seriously, you sound just like me a few years ago. I was looking everywhere. I was looking in school, I looked in clubs for a month or so before deciding they sucked, then I looked in school again. I had girls I liked. I had this one girl I really liked at the beginning of the year last year. I never said ****. Then Kaila came along and I got sick of not saying anything and just did it. You can't use other things as an excuse. If you desire companionship then you desire it. It's not a matter of it getting in the way of other things a good girl will understand.

Yeah I get what you're saying, but to what I can gather, a relationship is something gman would like to have. If not now, when will he start?

Originally posted by Magic Man
Yeah I get what you're saying, but to what I can gather, a relationship is something gman would like to have. If not now, when will he start?

All to true.

I'm just playing devil's advocate and trying to make him think about it - is a woman is really what he needs?

- J.

he can never do anything but guess about whether he needs one or not until he has someone he cares about romantically and who cares for him in return.

anything else is pure speculation.

You can only get so attached by only thinking about someone or wanting to be with them. Only when you are actually with them will the extent of your feelings become known. Then you will discover what true companionship is, and not before.

****ing a, don't ever play out relationships in your head. That is a big no-no.

Amen Magic.

Hockey raises an interesting point.

When we get into a relationship are we looking to get into a relationship with the PERSON or the IDEAL?

- J.

The ideal of what? Of just having someone? I want to be clear about what exactly you mean before I reply....I seem to have become lost in my own point.

Originally posted by HockeyFighter
The ideal of what? Of just having someone? I want to be clear about what exactly you mean before I reply....I seem to have become lost in my own point.

Yeah. The ideal of having someone.

- J.

The reason I ask this is I think a lot of people make a mistake and go with the ideal and not the person.

They might like the person, see a lot of the traits they want, but when they find the ones they don't like they try to "change" them.

- J.

Yeah that's true. I would say I fell in love with a person but like any person she wasn't perfect. There were things I didn't like. I never tried to change her. I just explained why I felt the way I did and she told me why she felt the way she did and in that way I tried to understand her better and have her understand me. In retrospect I think our relationship was too mature for her. She is only 16 and I let things get too deep for her. The ideal is definately a part of any relationship I think but it's the person that makes it or breaks it.

Originally posted by HockeyFighter
The ideal is definately a part of any relationship I think but it's the person that makes it or breaks it.

That's it mate. I just think too often people cling to the ideal for way to long until they realise it's not the person they are after.

- J.

Originally posted by Gman
How can a girl run up to hug you and then go off with some guy.
I just remembered this from thrusday night. Man that's sad.




it's because they like you for the teddy bear factor that's all then they run off with the guy that's gonna splatter their spleen for them

Originally posted by The Jake
That's it mate. I just think too often people cling to the ideal for way to long until they realise it's not the person they are after.

- J.
Yeah there is nothing worse than being forced to stay in a relationship when you want out. Again I have done this. I never wanted out but she did. Kaila has told me she was unhappy for about a month before she broke it off. I knew she was too. I saw all the signs but I tried to hang on because I knew I wanted her. I should have been more sensative to the fact that she didn't want me.

Originally posted by DragonZero
it's because they like you for the teddy bear factor that's all then they run off with the guy that's gonna splatter their spleen for them

I hate to say it, but he's right.

Hockey - too right mate, how insensitive of you! Yeah well, as they say, there's no point flogging a dead horse.

- J.

From my own experience, the best way to find a girlfriend, is to not look for one at all. Whenever I went looking for one, I never got one. I've had two really deep relationships in my life, and both of them just fell into my lap.

The way I look at it is this; If you're looking for a girlfriend, you've got that constant pressure pushing down on you. Every girl you meet, you're gonna be thinking, "I wonder if she's gonna be my girlfriend" or some **** like that, and you're not gonna be natural. Just don't give a ****, and be yourself. One is bound to fall into your lap eventually. Be patient, young saaa.

Sure there is. You learn more about it.

Originally posted by The Jake
Amen Magic.

Hockey raises an interesting point.

When we get into a relationship are we looking to get into a relationship with the PERSON or the IDEAL?

- J.

Too many people fall in love with the ideal of love itself, it blinds them from the true person that is on the opposite end of the ideal, its not nessesarily bad - it's a very important lesson that most people will go through, one that cannot be told.

Love should blind you to some faults of your partner. Publicly anyway. Like inside you know she isn't perfect but when around others you talk about her as is she is. I think that's part of love. As long as you don't get carried away and start to believe she is prefect.

no one is perfect, love should never blind you to their faults because once the initial physical attraction is gone, these faults will start to look a lot larger and bigger than what thesy seemed when you were first dating.

instead, its probably better to realise these faults and learn to accomodate them into your life or get her to change or a combination of the two.