View Full Version : Toney will lose to VK


Dr Cynical
09-23-2004, 10:05 PM
He doesn't have any power in his punches.
I saw the entire boring fight against Booker.
He gave Booker everything and just could not put him away.
VK will easily beat this zoo escapee.

neils7147933
09-23-2004, 10:34 PM
I think the Toney we saw tonight loses to Vitali, Byrd, and Ruiz.

Dr Cynical
09-23-2004, 10:35 PM
I think the Toney we saw tonight loses to Vitali, Byrd, and Ruiz.
Definitely.

WillieW
09-23-2004, 10:40 PM
I think the Toney we saw tonight loses to Vitali, Byrd, and Ruiz.

Ouch, I thought it was lopsided in Tony's favor. Byrd and Ruiz? Was it really that bad? :eek:

Dr Cynical
09-23-2004, 10:44 PM
Ouch, I thought it was lopsided in Tony's favor. Byrd and Ruiz? Was it really that bad? :eek:
Consider who Booker is.
Then think about this; Toney gave Booker his best and didn't knock him out.
It took to one of the later rounds to even make Booker take a knee.
You'd think that after something like that Booker would be out.
Nope, Toney still couldn't get him.

This from the person everyone claims is the greatest HW today?
What a ****ing joke.

WillieW
09-23-2004, 10:46 PM
Consider who Booker is.
Then think about this; Toney gave Booker his best and didn't knock him out.
It took to one of the later rounds to even make Booker take a knee.
You'd think that after something like that Booker would be out.
Nope, Toney still couldn't get him.

This from the person everyone claims is the greatest HW today?
What a ****ing joke.

Ah, but I followed your post and you said that Booker was clinching and holding the whole fight and he was the one stinking it up. Its hard to get to a guy who dosn't want to fight.


Maybe?

Dr Cynical
09-23-2004, 10:51 PM
Ah, but I followed your post and you said that Booker was clinching and holding the whole fight and he was the one stinking it up. Its hard to get to a guy who dosn't want to fight.


Maybe?
Sorry, I forgot to mention that Toney shoved him off and got out of it several times.
Even hit him with combos and he still couldn't get Booker out.
I was just really pissed to see all the hugging.
Cause it was excessive.

neils7147933
09-23-2004, 10:58 PM
Keep in mind too that Toney CANNOT fight Ruiz or Klitschko like he did tonight. If he gets that close to either of them and eats clean shots like he did tonight, he's on the canvas.

Booker just had NO, I mean NO power at all.

Dr Cynical
09-23-2004, 11:28 PM
Keep in mind too that Toney CANNOT fight Ruiz or Klitschko like he did tonight. If he gets that close to either of them and eats clean shots like he did tonight, he's on the canvas.

Booker just had NO, I mean NO power at all.
Yeah I know.
Toney will be destroyed by VK.

Eyeh8you
09-24-2004, 02:15 AM
Yeah I know.
Toney will be destroyed by VK.



um not according to the brothaz that post here they think he the best heavyout there. Hmmm... Is'nt that weird? :p

VK kills Toney inside of 8

S0UTHPAW
09-24-2004, 02:18 AM
Yeah I know.
Toney will be destroyed by VK.

Agreed in full. Toney did not bring his power up with him even though he looked in great shape (for Toney). His defence worried me too with Booker landing some telegraphed shots.

Dr Cynical
09-24-2004, 02:20 AM
Agreed in full. Toney did not bring his power up with him even though he looked in great shape (for Toney). His defence worried me too with Booker landing some telegraphed shots.
Exactly.
Although Toney wasn't as soft as he has been, he wasn't able to fully dominate this fat boring and unskilled nobody.
He just disappointed me.

NiGe2011
09-24-2004, 02:40 AM
I also find it tough to see a Toney victory over Vitali Klitschko and in my mind the most attractive heavweight match out there is Byrd and Klitschko- allthough Byrd sure did talk alot of **** for somebody who did not look all that impressive his last couple times out...

Dr Cynical
09-24-2004, 02:43 AM
I also find it tough to see a Toney victory over Vitali Klitschko and in my mind the most attractive heavweight match out there is Byrd and Klitschko- allthough Byrd sure did talk alot of **** for somebody who did not look all that impressive his last couple times out...
Byrd is a *****.
He looked like he was going to run away when he saw Toney coming up to where he was.

He waited till Toney left the building to talk **** about him.

At least Jirov went through the crowd and called out Toney.
But Toney was a ***** too, he did his usual wait for someone to hold him to start going forward.

NiGe2011
09-24-2004, 02:44 AM
No doubt, when fat ass Rydell Booker is taking Toney the distance it has to say something about his power at heavy- a Byrd and Toney matchup might actually be in order before either get at Vitali...

Dr Cynical
09-24-2004, 02:47 AM
No doubt, when fat ass Rydell Booker is taking Toney the distance it has to say something about his power at heavy- a Byrd and Toney matchup might actually be in order before either get at Vitali...
Toney has no power.
Even when he slapped Booker (like a *****) at the weigh-in, he didn't really affect Booker.
Toney is a ****ing joke and anyone who praises him doesn't know **** and should have their balls stomped on, cut off, and force fed to them.

anthetamine
09-24-2004, 02:57 AM
i personally dont think either bird or toney deserve a shot at the title, in saying that neither does danny williams and neither do the rest of the loosers we call the heavyweights

TheGreat1
09-24-2004, 06:07 AM
Exactly.
Although Toney wasn't as soft as he has been, he wasn't able to fully dominate this fat boring and unskilled nobody.
He just disappointed me.

he didn't disappoint you, you wanted Toney to lose.

TheGreat1
09-24-2004, 06:09 AM
i personally dont think either bird or toney deserve a shot at the title, in saying that neither does danny williams and neither do the rest of the loosers we call the heavyweights

What, Bryd is the champ, he has held his title longer than any of the others.

Dr Cynical
09-24-2004, 06:10 AM
he didn't disappoint you, you wanted Toney to lose.
If you read my thread about FSN and the fight you'll see that I was actually rooting for him and hoping he'd knock out Booker.
When you see the match you'll see what I'm talking about.
I ****ing hate Booker for the **** he pulled in that match.

Dr Cynical
09-24-2004, 06:11 AM
What, Bryd is the champ, he has held his title longer than any of the others.
A meaningless belt.

TheGreat1
09-24-2004, 06:14 AM
By Rick Reeno

This fight was a pure mismatch, it was a pure beating from beggining to end as Rydell Booker was beaten up from one corner to another.

Booker was undefeated with a record of 22-0, the record was heavily padded and it really showed in this fight. The scores were 120-108, 118-109 and 117-110. James Toney is the new IBA heavyweight champion.

This fight could have been stopped at anytime after the first round as Booker did nothing at all in most rounds. Booker just ran and tried to survive as James Toney beat on his body and landed the right uppercut all night long.

Booker landed three shots per round at best and in some rounds I didnt see him land a punch at all. Some rounds I'm not sure if Booker even through a punch. I couldnt believe the corner of Booker let the fight get to the last round.

Booker was rocked several times in the fight and took a knee in the eight round as Toney had him rocking all over the ring.

Toney said that he hurt his left arm in the first round but it doesnt appear to be anything serious. Since Toney hurt his left, he threw the right uppercut all night and probaly landed every single one.

People make fun of the conditioning of Toney but he went twelve long rounds of stalking, throwing punches and appeared in great shape. I cant say the same for Booker who came into the fight with a huge gut. Never good when a 23 year old guy comes into the fight in such sad shape.

TheGreat1
09-24-2004, 06:17 AM
A meaningless belt.

not really, plus he does hold a victory over VK, and Tua than man who KO'd Ruiz. doesn't matter soon Toney will have all the belts. quick question, if Brewster does fight Holyfield do you think he can win? I like brewster but his style is made to order for the older slower holyfield.

Dr Cynical
09-24-2004, 06:17 AM
By Rick Reeno

This fight was a pure mismatch, it was a pure beating from beggining to end as Rydell Booker was beaten up from one corner to another.

Booker was undefeated with a record of 22-0, the record was heavily padded and it really showed in this fight. The scores were 120-108, 118-109 and 117-110. James Toney is the new IBA heavyweight champion.

This fight could have been stopped at anytime after the first round as Booker did nothing at all in most rounds. Booker just ran and tried to survive as James Toney beat on his body and landed the right uppercut all night long.

Booker landed three shots per round at best and in some rounds I didnt see him land a punch at all. Some rounds I'm not sure if Booker even through a punch. I couldnt believe the corner of Booker let the fight get to the last round.

Booker was rocked several times in the fight and took a knee in the eight round as Toney had him rocking all over the ring.

Toney said that he hurt his left arm in the first round but it doesnt appear to be anything serious. Since Toney hurt his left, he threw the right uppercut all night and probaly landed every single one.

People make fun of the conditioning of Toney but he went twelve long rounds of stalking, throwing punches and appeared in great shape. I cant say the same for Booker who came into the fight with a huge gut. Never good when a 23 year old guy comes into the fight in such sad shape.

I saw and replied in the other thread.
I don't think Rick saw all of the fight.

Dr Cynical
09-24-2004, 06:19 AM
not really, plus he does hold a victory over VK, and Tua than man who KO'd Ruiz. doesn't matter soon Toney will have all the belts. quick question, if Brewster does fight Holyfield do you think he can win? I like brewster but his style is made to order for the older slower holyfield.
VK was beating Byrd before he quit due to injury.
Check the score cards.

Toney will only have his toilet paper belt.
He will get his ass beaten against any real heavyweight.
Even Byrd and Ruiz will beat this fat ugly overrated all hype ape.

I don't know about Brewster.
I haven't seen him fight.
So I really can't say anything about him.
Holyfield should stop being a ****ing moron and retire already.

TheGreat1
09-24-2004, 06:26 AM
VK was beating Byrd before he quit due to injury.
Check the score cards.

Toney will only have his toilet paper belt.
He will get his ass beaten against any real heavyweight.
Even Byrd and Ruiz will beat this fat ugly overrated all hype ape.

I don't know about Brewster.
I haven't seen him fight.
So I really can't say anything about him.
Holyfield should stop being a ****ing moron and retire already.

brewster is fun to watch, everytime you think he is out he comes back and ****s the other guy up. I think his last fight my have fixed, he could have ko'd that guy whenever he felt like it, but since it was his friend i guess he was trying to help his career. he is tough, but i don't think anyone is as tough as holyfield. Who is one of my all time favorites behind Big George. as for this this fight, i guess i say hope that maybe toney had a bad night, because he is really good, and is known for putting on a show. I talked to my wife she said that toney fought good and made this guy look stupid. I don't know if you saw the fights when toney fought Jirov or Holy, but he fought those fights perfect, no one could have beaten him on those nights (in the HW div)

Dr Cynical
09-24-2004, 06:44 AM
brewster is fun to watch, everytime you think he is out he comes back and ****s the other guy up. I think his last fight my have fixed, he could have ko'd that guy whenever he felt like it, but since it was his friend i guess he was trying to help his career. he is tough, but i don't think anyone is as tough as holyfield. Who is one of my all time favorites behind Big George. as for this this fight, i guess i say hope that maybe toney had a bad night, because he is really good, and is known for putting on a show. I talked to my wife she said that toney fought good and made this guy look stupid. I don't know if you saw the fights when toney fought Jirov or Holy, but he fought those fights perfect, no one could have beaten him on those nights (in the HW div)
Jirov was at the fight and went through the crowd after the fight and called out Toney.
It pissed off Toney and Toney went into his usual crazed gorilla fit and waited till someone was holding him to start moving towards Jirov.

Toney looked like a fool in the Booker match.
A guy who is so hyped shouldn't be doing this badly against a nobody.

TheGreat1
09-24-2004, 06:51 AM
Jirov was at the fight and went through the crowd after the fight and called out Toney.
It pissed off Toney and Toney went into his usual crazed gorilla fit and waited till someone was holding him to start moving towards Jirov.

Toney looked like a fool in the Booker match.
A guy who is so hyped shouldn't be doing this badly against a nobody.

winning every round isn't that bad. as for Jirov he has been wanting to fight toney every since toney took his belt. I beleive Jirov has a better chance of beating toney than any one else in the div, simply because he has so much heart and good skill. i thin k jirov will due good in the div, as long as he doesn't continue to get stafted like he did against Mesi.

Dr Cynical
09-24-2004, 06:54 AM
winning every round isn't that bad. as for Jirov he has been wanting to fight toney every since toney took his belt. I beleive Jirov has a better chance of beating toney than any one else in the div, simply because he has so much heart and good skill. i thin k jirov will due good in the div, as long as he doesn't continue to get stafted like he did against Mesi.
Yes but watch how he won those rounds.
At times it looked like he didn't want to get off his stool or was going to collapse.

TheGreat1
09-24-2004, 06:56 AM
Yes but watch how he won those rounds.
At times it looked like he didn't want to get off his stool or was going to collapse.

hum, really? Rick said he looked like he was in good condition, for 12 rounds.

Dr Cynical
09-24-2004, 07:01 AM
hum, really? Rick said he looked like he was in good condition, for 12 rounds.
I think Rick didn't watch the full match.
Toney was sweating alot.

He looked like he was tired in the later rounds.
He even "took a round off".
I'm guessing he was able to do this since Booker was such a ****ty fighter.
Toney cannot fight this way against VK.
VK will kill him if he fights anywhere near the same way he fought Booker.
I think Toney should spend less time talking **** and trying to make everyone think he's the second coming of Tyson and actually get focused into training and being a top HW.

TheGreat1
09-24-2004, 07:04 AM
I think Rick didn't watch the full match.
Toney was sweating alot.

He looked like he was tired in the later rounds.
He even "took a round off".
I'm guessing he was able to do this since Booker was such a ****ty fighter.
Toney cannot fight this way against VK.
VK will kill him if he fights anywhere near the same way he fought Booker.
I think Toney should spend less time talking **** and trying to make everyone think he's the second coming of Tyson and actually get focused into training and being a top HW.

I am sure he will, he did have a long lay off due to injury, so we will see. i think he is the mandatory for Brewster and VK now.

Dr Cynical
09-24-2004, 07:07 AM
I am sure he will, he did have a long lay off due to injury, so we will see. i think he is the mandatory for Brewster and VK now.
Then he really needs to improve his skills and change his game plan.
Seriously, stop spending so much time talking **** and trying to be Tyson and train.
I'm sure if he does that he'll at least pose some threat to VK.
Otherwise he will be destroyed by VK.

Dr Cynical
09-24-2004, 07:08 AM
Well it's been good talking boxing with you.
I've got to head to classes now.
Cya.

TheGreat1
09-24-2004, 07:09 AM
Well it's been good talking boxing with you.
I've got to head to classes now.
Cya.


alright man, i'll holla at cha later

ejk22
09-24-2004, 09:56 AM
So what's this rumor I heard on here that Toney is fighting Monte Barrett next?

Explosivo
09-24-2004, 10:11 AM
For all you **** talkers and Toney haters remember one thing. Booker had never lost a fight before last night. All you people are calling him a bum not thinking about the fact that his first loss was to a great fighter, James Toney. Booker has never lost, therefore never knocked out. Knowing that how can you disrespect James for not KOing this guy when no one else has been able to do it either? James beat his ass so bad that he took a freakin knee in the 8th to stop the beat down.

James didnt KO Booker, but no one else has either so where the **** do you get off disparaging James because he didn't do it, and how do you know his punched werent powerful? They must have been doing something because it looked like Booker was hurt pretty bad the way he was barely able to punch and defend himself.

The Toney haters point that James is weak because he didnt knock out Booker is rediculous. Go look at you Hero Vitai, Bird, Ruiz or whoever the **** it is and see who they didnt KO. If they didnt KO 1 guy that someone else did, well then, they just must be weak and have no power at heavy. If your not a hypocrite like Im sure the haters are, you start a thread about that too.

Dumbasses. :cool:

mic573
09-24-2004, 10:13 AM
Toney will not beat Vitaly but I never thought he would to begin with. One thing I got to say is Toney dominated every round after the first. He didn't look tired or about to collapse. His punches are not going to effect the bigger heavyweights but he has shown he can can hurt some of his opponents. Booker couldn't hurt him so I think that is the reason Toney used less defense and why he was hit by Booker at times. Booker though never landed more than one punch at a time for long periods of time. Against a heavyweight that can hurt him he would be more defensive. Who ever said Toney didn't dominate that fight must not of been watching it. 119-108 was my score of the fight.

Eyeh8you
09-24-2004, 02:55 PM
[QUOTE= I beleive Jirov has a better chance of beating toney than any one else in the div, simply because he has so much heart and good skill. i thin k jirov will due good in the div, as long as he doesn't continue to get stafted like he did against Mesi.[/QUOTE]


Yeah I agree w/that. Man at least it was a draw! oh well. Did Jirov realy call him out, cause someone else said it wasn't Jirov. Thats the next fight for both these guys go at it again. Jirov tough as nails but unfourtuantly I think he'll lose again to Toney. Jirov got too much heart and not enough brains sometimes. Imagine a super heavy in there with him.. If only he'd box the way he boxed the first round in the Mesi fight. Man he got skillz but resorts to down and out sluggin when he doesnt need to.
:confused:

neils7147933
09-24-2004, 03:06 PM
For all you **** talkers and Toney haters remember one thing. Booker had never lost a fight before last night. All you people are calling him a bum not thinking about the fact that his first loss was to a great fighter, James Toney. Booker has never lost, therefore never knocked out. Knowing that how can you disrespect James for not KOing this guy when no one else has been able to do it either? James beat his ass so bad that he took a freakin knee in the 8th to stop the beat down.

James didnt KO Booker, but no one else has either so where the **** do you get off disparaging James because he didn't do it, and how do you know his punched werent powerful? They must have been doing something because it looked like Booker was hurt pretty bad the way he was barely able to punch and defend himself.

The Toney haters point that James is weak because he didnt knock out Booker is rediculous. Go look at you Hero Vitai, Bird, Ruiz or whoever the **** it is and see who they didnt KO. If they didnt KO 1 guy that someone else did, well then, they just must be weak and have no power at heavy. If your not a hypocrite like Im sure the haters are, you start a thread about that too.

Dumbasses. :cool:

Toney didn't show anything, only that he knows how to pick opponents. This Rydell Booker should never be fighting on TV, anywhere. I can't believe he found 22 guys to beat.

Well - actually I can.

His last opponent, the one that "earned" him the IBA title fight was a split decision over a 13-7 Tipton Walker.

He also won a unanimous decision over John Basil Jackson who came in at 4-57-2.

He also won a unanimous decision over Donnie Penelton, who entered the fight at 13-138-4. I'm not joking. Penelton is still active, having lost one week ago to Mike Wood, who KO'd him, bringing his record to 13-158-5. He DOES have 5 KOs.

This Booker is the guy Tyson should have made his comeback against.

Let’s not forget Roy Bedwell, who fought Booker with a record of 15-67-1. He makes Anthony Prince (2-6) look like a good opponent. At least he knocked these guys out.

So which one of these guys do you think might have KO'd Booker?

Booker was a guy that should have been on the 3rd undercard at the national guard armory, not on a national TV telecast against a contender.

BoxingFanFirst
04-19-2010, 08:38 PM
First Thread ever created in NSB???

Figures he's banned lol.