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DJ QUIK
10-09-2008, 08:06 AM
whats the fastest way i can knock off 50 pounds without losing my strength? im more of a power puncher and i dont wanna lose that but i need to get this weight off asap. i dont drink pop eat pork, beef ,candy or no other bull****. the only thing i eat once a week that i have a weakness for is all cheese pizza but besides that im good. i need help on the quickest method. also recommend a good running brace for my road work.

Alexis Vastine
10-09-2008, 08:56 AM
running is the best way. Increase your runs to at least 7 miles. I know one former pro who put on 6 stones and he wanted to make a comeback so started running even 10 miles because 5-6 was too less for huim. Runnins is best way to burn off all that fat without getting weak. Don't worry too much about losing strength. it's in the head and overexaggerated.

When you lose weight you get alot fitter which makes you stronger in boxing terms. All that bull**** about losing loads of power is bollocks if your losing alot of fat and not much muscle. You only lose muscles if you starve yourself of protein and lose weight that way. if you do it this way (running) you might even end up with MORE power.

JayCoe
10-09-2008, 09:20 AM
Erm, well, first things first which no doubt everyone would have ignored. Whats your weight and body fat % because 50 lbs is alot and I doubt its safe to cut that kind of weight unless you're properly obese. I would say if you're anything between normal to chubby 50 lbs is too much and you just have to accept that you're not that light. I want to be bigger, but i'm not, i'm a welterweight, with effort I reckon I could comfortably become a middleweight, I will never be a heavyweight. Boxing is not about forcing your body, its about accepting it and then making it optimum at that natural weight and then learning the boxing specifics to that.

Your punching power wont suffer so long as you transfer your techniques into a newer weight. Us light guys don't have the mass, so we punch fast and snap our punches alot more, you big guys have mass, but usually lack speed, and usually throw less blows. Punching power does not relate to muscle, per se.

Anyway, if you were to try and lose 50lbs its going to take a long time, it wouldn't be easy and it'd involve almost everything from boxing training, to running, to a new diet to cycling, swimming. Losing that much weight wouldn't be about going running 5 mornings a week.

Alexis Vastine
10-09-2008, 10:24 AM
If he is fat it is Ok to drop 50lbs. People have done it before and there is no need to accept bull**** like he's big boned or whatever. 50lbs is not too much but like JayCoe says you have to make sure it is fat. Anyone who is a few stones overweight can cut that much even if they are not morbidly obese because it is all excess fat.

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10-09-2008, 10:32 AM
If he is fat it is Ok to drop 50lbs. People have done it before and there is no need to accept bull**** like he's big boned or whatever. 50lbs is not too much but like JayCoe says you have to make sure it is fat. Anyone who is a few stones overweight can cut that much even if they are not morbidly obese because it is all excess fat.

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lmao, It's what your red K looks like on my account, you ain't got **** on me

nedcmk1
10-09-2008, 11:38 AM
You can drop a ton with running but vary your running. mix long runs, interval training and sprints to get the weight off.

I was 170 with less then 10% bodyfat a year ago, im fighting next month at 132 and i am already at weight and dont need to cut.

The main thing besides the running is your diet needs to be spot on.

I would recommend precision nutrition program. If you do not want to buy the program read the authors articles at www.johnberardi.com for some insanely good, well thought out, scientifically researched information.

Indestructible
10-09-2008, 05:31 PM
If you drop 50lbs, you will lose power. Alot of power is determined by getting your weight into a punch so more weight behind the punch= more power. Don't get me wrong, you're not suddenly going to punch like a girl, and you can maintain strength while dropping weight, but don't expect to keep all your power.

Alexis Vastine
10-10-2008, 02:30 AM
If its flab, you won't necessarily lose power as increase in speed gives you more power. fatties never have much power either due to lack of athleticism. It is an oversimplification that losing wiehgt means losing power. If you have natural power you need not worry. If it was just the weight of the fat, then p4p you probably were not that powerful. In p4p terms it is possible for him to gain power while moving down. That's why alot of boxers skim their weight to the lowest possible = more p4p power. In some cases its more power full stop.

DJ QUIK
10-10-2008, 02:37 AM
im 255 but alot of it came from powerlifting back in the day but i do have alot of fat on me. i need to get back to cruiser weight were i once used to be at. i plan on lifting again once i get the weight down also.

MOREBASS
10-10-2008, 07:21 AM
Lift weights.


Low intensity jogging will help you lose fat, and muscle. So about half of the weight you will end up losing will be precious lean muscle tissue.

I would recommend high intensity interval training. Like sprints.

Darkstranger
10-10-2008, 07:46 AM
50lbs is alot of weight to lose. That could be the equivalent of a 91kg Super Heavyweight dropping down to the 75kg Middleweight division. Like someone else mentioned, you need to find out what your body fat percentage is. Also as far as I know, a Cruiserweight division still hasn't been introduced into Amateur Boxing. At 200lbs you'd be in the Heavyweight Division (91kg).

itwasluck
10-10-2008, 12:50 PM
im 255 but alot of it came from powerlifting back in the day but i do have alot of fat on me. i need to get back to cruiser weight were i once used to be at. i plan on lifting again once i get the weight down also.

You gained weight while powerlifting? Something isn't right there.

Indestructible
10-10-2008, 07:26 PM
You gained weight while powerlifting? Something isn't right there.
I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or not..?

alza1988
10-10-2008, 08:14 PM
That kind of weight is going to take months .The most you hear about is Ricky Hatton 30 odd pound .That will take alot out of you putting your body through that. All I can think of , if I was in your shoes I would defintley limit if not stop drinking alcahol and plan a training diary and stick to it.Keep a log of diet training and weight .
RossTraining the power of patience
http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/powerofpatience.html

Southpaw16BF
10-10-2008, 08:48 PM
Dude just don't rush with the weight let it come off slowy and natrually, and be careful you don't take to much water off the brain thats how you get seriouly hurt. Drastic weight cutting most of the time is a no no :nono:

Hitman932
10-10-2008, 10:45 PM
im 255 but alot of it came from powerlifting back in the day but i do have alot of fat on me. i need to get back to cruiser weight were i once used to be at. i plan on lifting again once i get the weight down also.

Hey bud, I was in the exact same boat as you last year.

I started training to fight and I was very out of shape. I am 6'4 and I weighed 238 pounds at the time. I have a tall athletic build so it was way too much weight for me.

I began with the idea of getting to cruiserweight like yourself and then when I got to 200 I realized I still had 10 useless pounds on me. When I lost those I realized I was only 12 pounds from LHW.

Long story short I dropped from 238 to 182 pounds and it took about 6 months.

I am about to go out for the night but I will tell you one thing, I did not accomplish it by running miles up miles upon miles.

I lifted weights and supplemented the whole time an increased my bench max nearly 100 pounds in the time that i lost 55.

Your diet is more important than running alot.

I will PM you with some specific things I did cause I'm not gonna bother to post them here so a bunch of *******s can tell me what else I should have done.

I will get back to you in the next couple days, I am very busy on weekends so if you don't hear from me by monday give me a friendly reminder, i dont come into this forum often.

DJ QUIK
10-10-2008, 10:55 PM
Dude just don't rush with the weight let it come off slowy and natrually, and be careful you don't take to much water off the brain thats how you get seriouly hurt. Drastic weight cutting most of the time is a no no :nono:

water off the brain? what does that mean?

Sox8055
10-10-2008, 11:54 PM
Lift weights.


Low intensity jogging will help you lose fat, and muscle. So about half of the weight you will end up losing will be precious lean muscle tissue.

I would recommend high intensity interval training. Like sprints.

You nail it man, I was 195lbs at the beggining of this year, in less than 2months I was following this exact same routine and lost 35 pounds quick.....

Southpaw16BF
10-11-2008, 03:55 AM
water off the brain? what does that mean?

When your trying to lose drastic weight quick, and water will not budge off your body, it will take fluid away from the brain, and if you take some heavy punches to the brain you can get seriouly damaged, Gerald McClellan before the Benn fight lost a amount of drastic weight and he took to much fluid off the brain and look what happened. Most of the time especially in boxing drastic weight cutting is no good!

phallus
10-11-2008, 04:37 AM
Lift weights.


Low intensity jogging will help you lose fat, and muscle. So about half of the weight you will end up losing will be precious lean muscle tissue.

I would recommend high intensity interval training. Like sprints.



yeah, you want to jack your heart rate and raise your metabolism. eating more protein than carbs would also help you and doing plyometrics, like hurpees

..if you have to cut some weight fast before a fight, like 5 or 6 lbs, i'd recommend getting a colonic

DJ QUIK
10-11-2008, 05:22 AM
When your trying to lose drastic weight quick, and water will not budge off your body, it will take fluid away from the brain, and if you take some heavy punches to the brain you can get seriouly damaged, Gerald McClellan before the Benn fight lost a amount of drastic weight and he took to much fluid off the brain and look what happened. Most of the time especially in boxing drastic weight cutting is no good!

so give me a safe time period to drop the weight where as my brain can keep the water levels normal.

Alexis Vastine
10-11-2008, 05:24 AM
50lbs is alot of weight to lose. That could be the equivalent of a 91kg Super Heavyweight dropping down to the 75kg Middleweight division. Like someone else mentioned, you need to find out what your body fat percentage is. Also as far as I know, a Cruiserweight division still hasn't been introduced into Amateur Boxing. At 200lbs you'd be in the Heavyweight Division (91kg).

That's right. But alot of trainers refer to super heavies as heavies and heavyweights as cruiserweights because that is basically what they are in the pro's which is what people see on TV. They just made different names for no reason!

Alexis Vastine
10-11-2008, 05:28 AM
so give me a safe time period to drop the weight where as my brain can keep the water levels normal.

It's a load of bull****!! Water levels in the brain, lol. Unless you are severely dehydrated there is no reason why you can't lose alot of weight in a short amount of time. There is no time limits and if there were they would be differnet for everyone! Alot of people say when you lose a few stones you need to do it slowly or it comes back on. There is no scientific proof for this. Yuo can burn off alot of fat very quickly and safely by training hard. If you were so dehydrated that water was going out of your brain, you would feel light headed and thirsty. As long as you quench your thirst you will not dehydrate.

DJ QUIK
10-11-2008, 05:31 AM
It's a load of bull****!! Water levels in the brain, lol. Unless you are severely dehydrated there is no reason why you can't lose alot of weight in a short amount of time. There is no time limits and if there were they would be differnet for everyone! Alot of people say when you lose a few stones you need to do it slowly or it comes back on. There is no scientific proof for this. Yuo can burn off alot of fat very quickly and safely by training hard. If you were so dehydrated that water was going out of your brain, you would feel light headed and thirsty. As long as you quench your thirst you will not dehydrate.

thanks for that water tip i drink a gallon a day but alex why do you come off like a angry ******* every post? why are you so mad?:grr:?