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PBDS
10-05-2008, 08:47 PM
Final curtain for the Kimbo show

SUNRISE, Fla. – The legend of Kimbo Slice was built by beating bums in boat yards and back alleys not far from here. It came crashing down Saturday courtesy of a quick punch from a pink-haired journeyman giving up two inches in height, four in reach and 30 pounds in muscle and might.

One simple shot sent Slice to the canvas and from there some guy named Seth Petruzelli needed just 12 punches and 14 seconds to put an end (we hope) to one of the great sporting charades of all time.

It was just a matter of time before Kimbo got exposed. He was little more than a character out of central casting, a bunch of addictive YouTube videos and a lot of insane hype by CBS, which made him a headliner before he made himself a fighter.

He was the Kimbo the Cash Machine, everyone lining up to exploit the lie that this was the baddest man on earth as long as he could walk through hand-picked tomato cans.

Only this time his match with 44-year-old Ken Shamrock, who hadn’t won a fight in over four years, fell apart when Shamrock cut his eye in a light training session Saturday and was deemed unfit to fight by state officials.

In the scramble to find a suitable replacement that Slice couldn’t possibly lose to, EliteXC considered Shamrock’s brother, Frank, who was there to be CBS’s color commentator, hadn’t fought lately due to a broken arm and would have given up around 45 pounds. Despite all this, Frank likely would have submitted Kimbo in the first round.

When that matchup couldn’t happen (EliteXC said state officials wouldn’t clear him, Frank said they did but CBS blocked it), EliteXC promoters turned to Petruzelli. The Fort Myers, Fla., native had been dumped by the big-league UFC, was just 2-2 since 2004, had recently taken a year off to start a business, weighed just 205 (to Kimbo’s 235) and was so lightly regarded he was competing in the non-televised undercard.
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Despite the oft-repeated propaganda that Slice was a man of “courage” for taking a fight with this smaller guy who was likely to stand and trade punches anyway, EliteXC paid Kimbo a cash bonus just to get him to step into the cage.

“We made it up to him,” said Jeremy Lappen, EliteXC’s head of fight operations. He wouldn’t disclose the amount.

For the myth of Slice, the matchup may not be a 44-year-old on a losing streak or someone from the broadcast booth, but really, what was the worst thing that could happen?

“It didn’t feel too flush,” Petruzelli said of the first punch that apparently didn’t even need to land squarely to fell Kimbo.

Make no mistake – or listen to the EliteXC spin – this was a disaster for Slice and the company. “This is MMA, all the best have lost,” said Lappen. True, but Kimbo wasn’t defeated by a crafty Brazilian jiu-jitsu master. He wasn’t caught in a submission by an experienced wrestler. He didn’t lose a decision after a three-round brawl.

Those would be understandable considering his novice status.

Kimbo was KTFO by a guy he absolutely towered over yet was willing to bang with him anyway. Not that Kimbo did any banging. Slice charged him (“He was like a truck,” Petruzelli said) but he never actually landed a punch.

In the end, Kimbo’s hand speed, defense and chin proved incapable against even an average mixed martial artist. Which was pretty much what every hardcore fan had predicted.

Not that CBS didn’t keep up with the Slice willing to fight, “anyone, anywhere, at anytime.” This was a 100 percent true statement if “anyone, anywhere, at anytime” means “no one any good, anywhere, ever.”

Slice seemed stunned and a bit saddened at the turn of events. After it was over, he initially began wrestling the referee. Whether that was a protest for the decision or because he was dazed isn’t certain. Then he walked around the cage complaining to fans about the stoppage.

Later he walked out on his CBS interview (“Kimbo?” asked a stunned Gus Johnson), although not before inviting America to an after party at a local nightclub. Then he showed up 45 minutes late for the main press conference, where he gave a quick statement and bailed.

“I got my first black eye,” he laughed. He later turned to Petruzelli and joked, “You knocked me out in front of my family; that’s (expletive) up.”

Through it all Slice remained the only likable character of this foolish farce. He wasn’t the one claiming he was the best in the world. He was just a working-class dude who figured out how to beat the system and cash in on his 15 minutes of fleeting fame.

He’s got kids to feed and bills to pay and right to the end, he was milking bonuses out of the promotion, a one-time homeless man holding the Tiffany Network’s prime-time programming hostage. Only in America.

He was the grand actor in the middle of a three-ring circus, a tall tale that would eventually come tumbling down under the bright glare of reality.

Where Slice goes from here is anyone’s guess. He can’t rebuild his reputation without stepping up in competition from the guy who just beat him in seconds. He can’t headline a card and have anyone believe he’s legit. He can’t claim he, “just got caught” when it wasn’t some wild, roundhouse right or sneaky arm-bar that did him in.

The truth was always coming for Kimbo. Saturday it arrived sooner rather than later, the money train grinding to a halt courtesy of a smaller, less heralded fighter that no one can claim is some elite champion.

No, this was it. It’ll never be the same, not for the fighter and not, perhaps, for his entire promotion that just lost its signature star on top of the $58 million it’s burned the past two years.

Afterward, EliteXC execs tried to paint a bright future but admitted they needed a drink. Lower-level employees used gallows humor about finding new jobs.

Kimbo just said he was going home to see his kids.

In 14 seconds flat, the whole mirage was gone.

PBDS
10-05-2008, 08:55 PM
....The announcers were confirmation of what a joke the whole spectacle was to begin with. Acting like it was the equivelant of Tyson/Douglas. STFU already!!!

th4l3pr3ch4un
10-05-2008, 09:35 PM
i dont care what anybody says...
Kimbo is a fighter...
he just simply is not the best in the world... hes actually just pretty average...
but i know he trains very hard, and i respect that quite a bit.
He can still have a career if he chooses to.
Name one top heavyweight who has never been beaten... you cant, even fedor has a ****ing loss.
So stop hating.

jakkups
10-05-2008, 10:07 PM
Name one top heavyweight who has never been beaten... you cant, even fedor has a ****ing loss.

Yeah but Kimbo is't a top heavyweight, and will never be a top heavyweight. And as for Fedor's loss, you obviously haven't seen the fight and don't know the circumstances behind it. It was during a tournament for RINGS and under normal circumstances (that being that it wasn't a tourney and it was just a single fight) it would've been a no contest or a DQ win for Fedor. You see he was fighting Kohsaka and TK hit him with an illegal elbow causing a huge cut above Fedor's eye which the ringside doctor deemed to bad for the match to continue. The match would've been called a NC or a DQ if it hadn't been part of a tourney whereby there had to be a winner in order for the tourney to be completed. And years later Fedor avenged that "loss" anyhow in devasting fashion.

And comparing Kimbo to top heavyweights is pretty absurd. Sure top heavyweights have lost before, but usually to other top heavyweights, not to a light-heavyweight that couldn't make it in the world's biggest company and has never done anything significant other than narrowly beating an aging Dan Severn, and having come back into the sport after taking a year off. Kimbo's 15 minute are over, he is a flash in the pan and what I predicted would happen did happen. That ain't hate buddy, that's just reality.

Gareth Ivanovic
10-05-2008, 11:55 PM
That article was perfect about Kimbo. He was just a marketed image built up to be something he wasn't. I have nothing against Kimbo the person, but the image was just out of control. I mean for a guy to be headlining MMA cards on network TV when he had no business being there is just absurd. Yes I understand that people tuned in, but it was more for the spectacle than the sport. Many Boxers and im sure MMA fighters came from rags to riches and they actually had to really work to get to where they are at instead of fighting bums in backyards. So his story is really not something that is unique.

American_Ninja
10-06-2008, 12:21 AM
If he shaves and uses his real name Kevin Ferguson
would anyone recognize him?

th4l3pr3ch4un
10-06-2008, 01:47 AM
Yeah but Kimbo is't a top heavyweight, and will never be a top heavyweight. And as for Fedor's loss, you obviously haven't seen the fight and don't know the circumstances behind it. It was during a tournament for RINGS and under normal circumstances (that being that it wasn't a tourney and it was just a single fight) it would've been a no contest or a DQ win for Fedor. You see he was fighting Kohsaka and TK hit him with an illegal elbow causing a huge cut above Fedor's eye which the ringside doctor deemed to bad for the match to continue. The match would've been called a NC or a DQ if it hadn't been part of a tourney whereby there had to be a winner in order for the tourney to be completed. And years later Fedor avenged that "loss" anyhow in devasting fashion.

And comparing Kimbo to top heavyweights is pretty absurd. Sure top heavyweights have lost before, but usually to other top heavyweights, not to a light-heavyweight that couldn't make it in the world's biggest company and has never done anything significant other than narrowly beating an aging Dan Severn, and having come back into the sport after taking a year off. Kimbo's 15 minute are over, he is a flash in the pan and what I predicted would happen did happen. That ain't hate buddy, that's just reality.

i see you posting in this forum quite a bit, you clearly know alot about the sport...

But anyways, i never said Kimbo was a top heavyweight. But i did say he is a fighter, and all great fighters at some point, they get beat. Should kimbo have been hyped up as much as he was, of course not, but that doesnt mean he isnt a real fighter. That doesnt mean he wasnt training his ****ing ass off every single day. It doesnt mean he cant come back and prove alot of people wrong.
As for fedor, okay, that may not have been the best example... but you could see where i was getting at.
Randy couture
Tim Sylvia
Big Nog
Frank Mir
Cro Cop
the list goes on... and so do there losses.

jakkups
10-06-2008, 08:55 AM
Difference is with those guys is they lost to proven fighters who are highly skilled and ranked at one time or another, unlike Kimbo who lost to a nobody who weighed 30lbs lighter and knocked him out with a jab.

neils7147933
10-06-2008, 09:06 AM
Final curtain for the Kimbo show

SUNRISE, Fla. – The legend of Kimbo Slice was built by beating bums in boat yards and back alleys not far from here. It came crashing down Saturday courtesy of a quick punch from a pink-haired journeyman giving up two inches in height, four in reach and 30 pounds in muscle and might.

One simple shot sent Slice to the canvas and from there some guy named Seth Petruzelli needed just 12 punches and 14 seconds to put an end (we hope) to one of the great sporting charades of all time.

It was just a matter of time before Kimbo got exposed. He was little more than a character out of central casting, a bunch of addictive YouTube videos and a lot of insane hype by CBS, which made him a headliner before he made himself a fighter.

He was the Kimbo the Cash Machine, everyone lining up to exploit the lie that this was the baddest man on earth as long as he could walk through hand-picked tomato cans.

Only this time his match with 44-year-old Ken Shamrock, who hadn’t won a fight in over four years, fell apart when Shamrock cut his eye in a light training session Saturday and was deemed unfit to fight by state officials.

In the scramble to find a suitable replacement that Slice couldn’t possibly lose to, EliteXC considered Shamrock’s brother, Frank, who was there to be CBS’s color commentator, hadn’t fought lately due to a broken arm and would have given up around 45 pounds. Despite all this, Frank likely would have submitted Kimbo in the first round.

When that matchup couldn’t happen (EliteXC said state officials wouldn’t clear him, Frank said they did but CBS blocked it), EliteXC promoters turned to Petruzelli. The Fort Myers, Fla., native had been dumped by the big-league UFC, was just 2-2 since 2004, had recently taken a year off to start a business, weighed just 205 (to Kimbo’s 235) and was so lightly regarded he was competing in the non-televised undercard.
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Despite the oft-repeated propaganda that Slice was a man of “courage” for taking a fight with this smaller guy who was likely to stand and trade punches anyway, EliteXC paid Kimbo a cash bonus just to get him to step into the cage.

“We made it up to him,” said Jeremy Lappen, EliteXC’s head of fight operations. He wouldn’t disclose the amount.

For the myth of Slice, the matchup may not be a 44-year-old on a losing streak or someone from the broadcast booth, but really, what was the worst thing that could happen?

“It didn’t feel too flush,” Petruzelli said of the first punch that apparently didn’t even need to land squarely to fell Kimbo.

Make no mistake – or listen to the EliteXC spin – this was a disaster for Slice and the company. “This is MMA, all the best have lost,” said Lappen. True, but Kimbo wasn’t defeated by a crafty Brazilian jiu-jitsu master. He wasn’t caught in a submission by an experienced wrestler. He didn’t lose a decision after a three-round brawl.

Those would be understandable considering his novice status.

Kimbo was KTFO by a guy he absolutely towered over yet was willing to bang with him anyway. Not that Kimbo did any banging. Slice charged him (“He was like a truck,” Petruzelli said) but he never actually landed a punch.

In the end, Kimbo’s hand speed, defense and chin proved incapable against even an average mixed martial artist. Which was pretty much what every hardcore fan had predicted.

Not that CBS didn’t keep up with the Slice willing to fight, “anyone, anywhere, at anytime.” This was a 100 percent true statement if “anyone, anywhere, at anytime” means “no one any good, anywhere, ever.”

Slice seemed stunned and a bit saddened at the turn of events. After it was over, he initially began wrestling the referee. Whether that was a protest for the decision or because he was dazed isn’t certain. Then he walked around the cage complaining to fans about the stoppage.

Later he walked out on his CBS interview (“Kimbo?” asked a stunned Gus Johnson), although not before inviting America to an after party at a local nightclub. Then he showed up 45 minutes late for the main press conference, where he gave a quick statement and bailed.

“I got my first black eye,” he laughed. He later turned to Petruzelli and joked, “You knocked me out in front of my family; that’s (expletive) up.”

Through it all Slice remained the only likable character of this foolish farce. He wasn’t the one claiming he was the best in the world. He was just a working-class dude who figured out how to beat the system and cash in on his 15 minutes of fleeting fame.

He’s got kids to feed and bills to pay and right to the end, he was milking bonuses out of the promotion, a one-time homeless man holding the Tiffany Network’s prime-time programming hostage. Only in America.

He was the grand actor in the middle of a three-ring circus, a tall tale that would eventually come tumbling down under the bright glare of reality.

Where Slice goes from here is anyone’s guess. He can’t rebuild his reputation without stepping up in competition from the guy who just beat him in seconds. He can’t headline a card and have anyone believe he’s legit. He can’t claim he, “just got caught” when it wasn’t some wild, roundhouse right or sneaky arm-bar that did him in.

The truth was always coming for Kimbo. Saturday it arrived sooner rather than later, the money train grinding to a halt courtesy of a smaller, less heralded fighter that no one can claim is some elite champion.

No, this was it. It’ll never be the same, not for the fighter and not, perhaps, for his entire promotion that just lost its signature star on top of the $58 million it’s burned the past two years.

Afterward, EliteXC execs tried to paint a bright future but admitted they needed a drink. Lower-level employees used gallows humor about finding new jobs.

Kimbo just said he was going home to see his kids.

In 14 seconds flat, the whole mirage was gone.

You should have posted this in NSB, peebs, to quiet some of the folks who claim that anyone who posts here who doesn't hate MMA is somehow in shock over Kimbo losing a bout.

KESSLER
10-06-2008, 12:16 PM
haha, you knocked me out in front of my family! that's ****ed up.

That's some good **** right there.