You know what happened this week back in 1850?

California became a state.
Back then, the state had no electricity. No money.
Almost everyone spoke Spanish.

There were gun fights in the middle of the streets.

So it was just like California today only back then
the women had real breasts!


:devil

Originally posted by momita
You know what happened this week back in 1850?

California became a state.
Back then, the state had no electricity. No money.
Almost everyone spoke Spanish.

There were gun fights in the middle of the streets.

So it was just like California today only back then
the women had real breasts!


:devil

LMAO:lol1: :lol2: :lol3:

I am amazed at the number of people who only speak Spanish in this state and are able to get by.... it's unfreakin' believable.

- J.

Originally posted by The Jake
I am amazed at the number of people who only speak Spanish in this state and are able to get by.... it's unfreakin' believable.

- J.

Down where Momita lives, I used to live too. I could not find a job because I did NOT speak Spanish. It pissed me off so much. If you didn't know Spanish, you had to know someone. I didn't do either. So I stayed a stay-at-home mom.....better job anyways.:)

I try to reconcile it with the history of this state and what I know of it, but really, after six generations or so, you'd think the majority of the state would be speaking English by now....

We have a lot of immigrants in Australia but only the most stubborn of them refuse to learn English and they, thankfully, are a minority. If you live in another country or area, you should have the ability to speak the native language. And there's no two ways about it.

I wouldn't move to France and be expecting the French to be speaking English just on account of me being too lazy to learn how to communicate with them.

However, what makes the situation unique out here is that the Mexican community (yes I'm aware of the difference in hispanic groups) could quite justifiably point at the non-Spanish speaking Americans and say the same thing, since they were here first.

- J.

Originally posted by The Jake
I try to reconcile it with the history of this state and what I know of it, but really, after six generations or so, you'd think the majority of the state would be speaking English by now....

We have a lot of immigrants in Australia but only the most stubborn of them refuse to learn English and they, thankfully, are a minority. If you live in another country or area, you should have the ability to speak the native language. And there's no two ways about it.

I wouldn't move to France and be expecting the French to be speaking English just on account of me being too lazy to learn how to communicate with them.

However, what makes the situation unique out here is that the Mexican community (yes I'm aware of the difference in hispanic groups) could quite justifiably point at the non-Spanish speaking Americans and say the same thing, since they were here first.

- J.

Saying we were here first a couple hundred years later is just plain ignorant.

If you live in a country where the offical language is english, you should learn english.

If you move to a coutnry like Canada, you should learn english or french.

Don't be an ignorant ****, learn the language and when your in public, speak in the language. I hate when people start talking in another language in front of me. Its rude

Originally posted by Creed
I hate when people start talking in another language in front of me. Its rude

I agree with you on this one. I have plenty of friends who speak another language and most of them think it's rude too. If the other person doesn't speak any English, I can forgive it, but my friends usually inform me so I don't feel left out. I took a Spanish class last year and I can understand some of the conversations now. Which surprises some people....hehehe....

I ain't gonna argue with you Creed. That really is my view too.

That said, it's kinda different out here. Which is the point I was trying to make.

California also being so close to Mexico also creates additional cultural issues that few other countries would experience. The constant contact with the native culture and the influx of Mexican people means that their culture and beliefs are constantly reinforced.

Why would you want to learn another language if you don't particularly feel a need to?

It's different if an invading army comes in, conqueres a region, take over the government, interbreeds with the people and the end result is that within a few generations they speak a different language and as a result there is a culture change.

It's entirely different when the culture, despite strong (Western) influences never really changed. And that I think is the point of Momita's post.....

Then again, I ain't Mexican nor have I been here long. This is just my observation.

- J.

My supervisor at work speaks very little english, it sucks that I need to go get a translator every time somthing goes wrong with the saw. Its ****ed up, our national language is english so they should have to learn it. Thats ****ed up that you couldnt get a job without knowing spanish MCM, it should be a requirement that you know how to speak and write english to get a job.......

The problem with people speaking another language in public is you don't know if thier making fun of you.

Poop.

diarrea or constipation Luke?