View Full Version : Just how good is army trainin for boxing??


kenny91
10-04-2008, 06:32 PM
right firstly .. im back!! :D sorry i havent posted in a long while :S

Right my enquiry is whether or how much is army training beneficial for boxing?

What it is, ive joined the british armed forces, aiming for a mechanised infantry role. I have my BARB test friday, completed my application form and my medical will be confirmed hopefully friday or not long after.

Now im still gonna pursue boxing, been as though i know someone in the army who has managed to juggle both so now my question is to anyone who has a greet deal of knowledge of training and nutrition/have followed both army & boxing.... just how beneficial are regular army infantry drills to boxing??

Thanks in advance

alza1988
10-04-2008, 06:42 PM
right firstly .. im back!! :D sorry i havent posted in a long while :S

Right my enquiry is whether or how much is army training beneficial for boxing?

What it is, ive joined the british armed forces, aiming for a mechanised infantry role. I have my BARB test friday, completed my application form and my medical will be confirmed hopefully friday or not long after.

Now im still gonna pursue boxing, been as though i know someone in the army who has managed to juggle both so now my question is to anyone who has a greet deal of knowledge of training and nutrition/have followed both army & boxing.... just how beneficial are regular army infantry drills to boxing??

Thanks in advance

what regiment r u joining

kenny91
10-04-2008, 06:45 PM
the 4 rifles (3rd battlion?), mechanised infantry :) but the guy that i spoke to in the army careers office tried temptin me into armoured infantry with The Rifles

alza1988
10-04-2008, 06:57 PM
the 4 rifles (3rd battlion?), mechanised infantry :) but the guy that i spoke to in the army careers office tried temptin me into armoured infantry with The Rifles

I done 7 weeks at lympstone commando for the marines , I ended up gaining weight ,we got told that we needed 4200kcal per day , high carbs .When I joined I was walking around about 11 stone and was 12 when I left ,but it was eating to many sweets at night , i was feeling drowsy at night and thought i needed them for energy for all the ironing and stuff.

sukhenkoy
10-04-2008, 07:00 PM
I would think its pretty good for boxing. A lot of bodyweight exercises and conditioning will probably get you into good shape for boxing. Obviously you're not going to be hitting any mitts with captains or anything, but I would think that it will only help your fitness for boxing.

When do you officially leave?

kenny91
10-04-2008, 07:11 PM
ahh ermm well the guy who talked to me reckons everythin from the medical, barb test, application goin through and the mile-and-half run they want me to do ... he reckons i wont be training for roughly 3-4 months then he wants to send me to yorkshire for 28 weeks, then im going cattrick (dunno how to spell it) for 10 weeks then into the Four Rifles mechanised infantry regiment in Bulford, Salsbury.

alza1988
10-04-2008, 07:19 PM
ahh ermm well the guy who talked to me reckons everythin from the medical, barb test, application goin through and the mile-and-half run they want me to do ... he reckons i wont be training for roughly 3-4 months then he wants to send me to yorkshire for 28 weeks, then im going cattrick (dunno how to spell it) for 10 weeks then into the Four Rifles mechanised infantry regiment in Bulford, Salsbury.

At catterick you will do alot of tabs , it stands for Tactical Advance To Battle ,it is also known as a speed march ,they're intense ,its wearing fighting order , ammo pouches maybe a daysack and carrying a rifle ,it all adds up to a certain weight ,the field craft is pretty brutal,i've done about 3 weeks in catterick ,you'll build up to a final exercise,up to a week in the field ,it's brutal ,f-----g freezing.

kenny91
10-04-2008, 07:22 PM
catterick - thats the one! cheers mate.

dude sounds fun :P nah im proper pumped for it its like the ultimate experience the army i cant wait to get stuck in and i kno its probably not easy but im up for the challenge.

thanks for the detailed lowdown on what happens there mate ;)

alza1988
10-04-2008, 07:29 PM
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kenny91
10-04-2008, 07:38 PM
dude that video was great thanks mate

alza1988
10-04-2008, 07:39 PM
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Naz-Fan
10-04-2008, 08:22 PM
Nigel Benn and Rock Marciano both learned how to box in the army so it must be pretty good.

Alexis Vastine
10-05-2008, 02:34 AM
Army training is for military purposes. Boxing training is for the purpose of boxing. i doubt carrying a big fat burgen at 1mph for 10 miles will do you much good in the ring. Might be handy when terrorising people out of their crude oil though.

Squaddies fitness is overrated too. Apart from the fitness freaks (who do it by choice just like civvies), alot of them are bums. The PT sessions are a joke compared to a decent amateur boxing club.

Oriachim
10-05-2008, 10:38 AM
The royal navy/royal marines and army both have very good boxing gyms and teams. The navy has like 10 people ranked top 10 in UK, army even better. The gyms prefer to teach people speed rather than raw power in a civii gym, ignore people who say army is for military only, as it takes sport very seriously. the army will get you fit to start boxing training, but obviously the stamina for punching etc will come from boxing training itself.

Hagler★
10-05-2008, 10:45 AM
not very
my friend knocked out an army boxer last night in 10 secs last night

Ryn0
10-05-2008, 11:15 AM
I imagine it's pretty good, I did some marines training while I was living in England. Nigel Benn came from the Army training.

Am Star
10-05-2008, 11:57 AM
It all depends how you make it mate, during training there wasn't much selection of foods but once you get in your regiment, the food is generally decent, good choices, and you can take the healthy option, or the fried breakfast's every morning, it's down to you, but there's always that temptation.

The fitness all depends on your PTI(physical training instructor), sometimes you get enthusiastic lad's who like to 'beast' you and some aren't really bothered, again though, it's generally down to you, how you like to push yourself. Plus you can always do your own phys in your own time(when you're in regiment).

Finally, if your good enough you get to train with the army boxing team full time, walk around in tracksuits, no bull****, good life.

Hope that helps a bit mate.

Oriachim
10-05-2008, 01:03 PM
not very
my friend knocked out an army boxer last night in 10 secs last night

Just like civvies, not all army boxers are decent. I imagine your friend could knock out civvies in 10 seconds.

Hagler★
10-05-2008, 04:32 PM
but when ur an army boxer i was told ur focus was boxing training etc to lose in 10 secs to someone who has been boxing for a year and a half is pretty bad

alza1988
10-05-2008, 05:05 PM
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Alexis Vastine
10-05-2008, 08:29 PM
The royal navy/royal marines and army both have very good boxing gyms and teams. The navy has like 10 people ranked top 10 in UK, army even better. The gyms prefer to teach people speed rather than raw power in a civii gym, ignore people who say army is for military only, as it takes sport very seriously. the army will get you fit to start boxing training, but obviously the stamina for punching etc will come from boxing training itself.

That's different, that's boxing training in the army. The actual Army and military training itself is useless for boxing. Stuff like marching, drill and carrying a burgen will do you no good otherwise top boxers would be doing it.

I was in the Corp of the Royal Engineers Regiment for a while and it is true that they have some decent AM's but in general they have **** standards in their gyms for coaching and sparring. Alot of the lads who do well in the team use to box before and had alot of AM experience as juniors. For them the coaching and sparring is not so important as they have alot of bouts and can motivate themselves. The PT sessions are bollocks and are too light for boxing.

kenny91
10-06-2008, 06:14 AM
Guys thank u all so much for ur feedback... havent been able to reply as quick as i wanted to as ive already started my own intense training before my medical and fitness tests.

Special thanks to Alza and Oriachim, however all of ur views are much appreciated.

Going back to what someone (think it was oriachim.. im not sure) said about lack of food options, thats just 1 reason why i originally posted this question. I wanted to find out whether boxing in the army is progressful in ur boxing abbility even without the luxury of being spoilt of choice at home when it comes to diet.

Again thank you all for ur views

kenny91
10-06-2008, 06:18 AM
That's different, that's boxing training in the army. The actual Army and military training itself is useless for boxing. Stuff like marching, drill and carrying a burgen will do you no good otherwise top boxers would be doing it.

I was in the Corp of the Royal Engineers Regiment for a while and it is true that they have some decent AM's but in general they have **** standards in their gyms for coaching and sparring. Alot of the lads who do well in the team use to box before and had alot of AM experience as juniors. For them the coaching and sparring is not so important as they have alot of bouts and can motivate themselves. The PT sessions are bollocks and are too light for boxing.

in all fairness i shouldve specified what i actually meant.

Im on about army boxing training and military training altogether aswell as questioning whether progression of a great ammount can be achieved when in the army (bear in mind what was stated before about lack of options for food)

Oriachim
10-06-2008, 02:45 PM
Guys thank u all so much for ur feedback... havent been able to reply as quick as i wanted to as ive already started my own intense training before my medical and fitness tests.

Special thanks to Alza and Oriachim, however all of ur views are much appreciated.

Going back to what someone (think it was oriachim.. im not sure) said about lack of food options, thats just 1 reason why i originally posted this question. I wanted to find out whether boxing in the army is progressful in ur boxing abbility even without the luxury of being spoilt of choice at home when it comes to diet.

Again thank you all for ur views

Generally civvies, have better luxarys, being able to eat whatever food they want. However look up Lucy Abel, she started boxing in the navy as a hobby, but now shes a european champion. In the army, you can also turn pro and still be in the army.