View Full Version : Ken Shamrock vs Frank Shamrock


Cuauhtémoc1520
10-01-2008, 04:02 PM
Ken was on the Jim Rome show today and was talking about the up coming fight with Kimbo here in Miami.

Ken was asked if he would ever fight his brother and he said he would love to. Unlike the Klitchko brothers that have vowed never to fight each other, Ken said he would love to settle it in the ring with his little brother.

THE REED™
10-01-2008, 04:03 PM
when is the kimbo fight? this weekend?

YUHHHHHHH!
10-01-2008, 04:45 PM
Saturday. Any bets?

Cuauhtémoc1520
10-01-2008, 05:14 PM
It's in the BankAtlantic Center here in Miami. I was checking the prices and it's crazy expensive. I'm not paying that much to watch some old man get beaten up.

1bad65
10-01-2008, 05:40 PM
I'm not paying that much to watch some old man get beaten up.

LMAO. That was a good one. You're smarter than the morons who are.

FYI, Ken and Frank are really not brothers in the normal sense. They were both adopted as adults by the same man. They did not even grow up together.

RisAri0
10-01-2008, 05:48 PM
Frank would hurt bigger brother. He's all around the better athlete/fighter and alot smarter. Ken said he'd like to fight him, but won't. Thats because he knows he'll get beaten.

Virgil Caine
10-01-2008, 06:37 PM
LMAO. That was a good one. You're smarter than the morons who are.

FYI, Ken and Frank are really not brothers in the normal sense. They were both adopted as adults by the same man. They did not even grow up together.
I thought they'd grown up in an orphanage together or something.

neils7147933
10-01-2008, 08:28 PM
They actually resemble each other...

But if Ken fights Frank, Frank wins. The degree to which he beats him depends on what weight it's at

Kakutogi-Gumi
10-01-2008, 09:20 PM
It's in the BankAtlantic Center here in Miami. I was checking the prices and it's crazy expensive. I'm not paying that much to watch some old man get beaten up.

SEMTEX, Sheilds and Arlovski are worth it.

neils7147933
10-01-2008, 10:27 PM
SEMTEX, Sheilds and Arlovski are worth it.
A childhood friend of mine named Jeremy "Tiny" Norton is fighting on the untelevised portion of the undercard. He's a super heavy wrestling in an "open heavyweight" match against the King of the Cage Heavyweight Champ

-Antonio-
10-02-2008, 01:22 AM
I was surprised to hear they werent real brothers at first because they really look like blood brothers.

BIGPOPPAPUMP
10-02-2008, 01:28 AM
Ken was on the Jim Rome show today and was talking about the up coming fight with Kimbo here in Miami.

Ken was asked if he would ever fight his brother and he said he would love to. Unlike the Klitchko brothers that have vowed never to fight each other, Ken said he would love to settle it in the ring with his little brother.

The Shamrocks are not "blood" brothers. I believe Ken is adopted.

Left Hook Tua
10-02-2008, 02:43 AM
The Shamrocks are not "blood" brothers. I believe Ken is adopted.

i think both are adopted by the same family.



as far as the fight goes prime vs. prime frank wins. right now...... frank wins as well.

frank is just the better fighter and with the far better training.

his alliance with tsuyoshi kohsaka and maurice smith really helped him become well rounded.

American_Ninja
10-02-2008, 04:18 AM
Ken and Frank look to much alike to not be related by blood. But they are not. I see some "Boxing" people dipping in here...ahemmmm bpp.

Frank Shamrock (born Frank Alisio Juarez III)
Ken Shamrock (born Kenneth Wayne Kilpatrick

Liaison
10-02-2008, 04:50 AM
The Shamrock "feud" is lame, not really a fued, just a clash of ego...

Miburo
10-02-2008, 08:31 AM
Frank would destroy him at this point. Honestly he was always the better fighter. Ironically Guy Mezger was probably better than both of them.

Cuauhtémoc1520
10-02-2008, 10:15 AM
Frank Shamrock was born Frank Alisio Juarez III. I always thought he looked latino but never thought much of it. I just looked him up, his parents were originaly from Mexico...nice.

1bad65
10-02-2008, 10:23 AM
I actually met Frank a few years ago at a BJJ tournament. He was a class act. Really friendly to everyone. Took pics and gave autographs to anyone that asked.

One of my instructors trained with Ken back in the 90s. Said he was one of the most arrogant guys he ever met.

Cuauhtémoc1520
10-02-2008, 12:22 PM
LMAO. That was a good one. You're smarter than the morons who are.

FYI, Ken and Frank are really not brothers in the normal sense. They were both adopted as adults by the same man. They did not even grow up together.

I know me and you have had our discussions over this and I just think that Kimbo is a spectacle but an entertaining spectacle.

I still don't know why people hate him so much and I equate him to Butterbean in boxing. He's not really a threat to the title or anyone that is very good but he's entertaining to watch.

I don't see him as much different that a Tank Abbott or any of the early guys in the sport. If anything he's more skilled because at least he's getting the proper training.

I do agree that putting him up against someone like Ken Shamrock is just using Shamrocks name to get people to watch. Ken Shamrock should be just as ashaimed being part of something like this because I think he knows in his heart he's about to catch a serious beat down.

Kakutogi-Gumi
10-02-2008, 01:12 PM
It's not Kimbo that's the prob. It's the spot Kimbo always gets. People don't want to beat on Kimbo because of Kimbo. They want to do it to beat on EXC.

Cuauhtémoc1520
10-02-2008, 01:20 PM
It's not Kimbo that's the prob. It's the spot Kimbo always gets. People don't want to beat on Kimbo because of Kimbo. They want to do it to beat on EXC.

Thats not true, many have come out publicly and said they want to hurt on Kimbo.

Joe Riggs said it, Tito Ortiz said it, I have seen other interviews with fighters I can't think of right now that hate him and want to fight him because of it.

People hate on him because he gets so much attention but it's not his fault. He is just a guy that has come up through the tough streets of Miami and people gravitate towards him.

He's not trying to diss anyone or diss the sport, he's just trying to get payed.

1bad65
10-02-2008, 03:11 PM
Cool Cuau,

Well said. Your a good guy. I see it like RB said. It's the spot he gets, not the man himself. I think more deserving fighters deserve it.

I don't want to see the man hurt. I want to see him lose though. There is a big difference.

Thanks for your post man. I'll be alot more civil to ya. Sorry bout anything I said that went over the line. I apologize if I did. Enjoy the fight on Sat. I'll be watching it on free TV.

YUHHHHHHH!
10-02-2008, 03:21 PM
Thats not true, many have come out publicly and said they want to hurt on Kimbo.

Joe Riggs said it, Tito Ortiz said it, I have seen other interviews with fighters I can't think of right now that hate him and want to fight him because of it.

People hate on him because he gets so much attention but it's not his fault. He is just a guy that has come up through the tough streets of Miami and people gravitate towards him.

He's not trying to diss anyone or diss the sport, he's just trying to get payed.

Tito Ortiz said what he said because he, like 90% of the other people who dislike Kimbo, were basing their entire disliking of him on thinking he was an arrogant street fighter competing in MMA. Now this is an okay assumption, because almost any arrogant street fighter will tell you that he could knock a Mixed Martial Arts fighter out. However, after seeing articles and interviews with Kimbo, Tito (And some people who dislike him) had the brains to realize that it's EliteXC that is making him appear this way. Kimbo is a humble guy, look at any of his interviews. Should he be getting Prime Time television slots and getting to be the main event on fight cards? Absolutely not. But I think that him being exposed to the media like this will allow everyone to realize that he's not arrogant, and realizes that he isn't much in the sport yet.

Cuauhtémoc1520
10-02-2008, 07:27 PM
Cool Cuau,

Well said. Your a good guy. I see it like RB said. It's the spot he gets, not the man himself. I think more deserving fighters deserve it.

I don't want to see the man hurt. I want to see him lose though. There is a big difference.

Thanks for your post man. I'll be alot more civil to ya. Sorry bout anything I said that went over the line. I apologize if I did. Enjoy the fight on Sat. I'll be watching it on free TV.

No problem man, I love the fight game and like I said, teach at a local boxing gym. I am just intrigued with MMA and love the sport. I watch it and usually talk to you about because you seem very knowledgeable. I don't mean anything negative , I just respect everyone who gets in the ring, no matter what the talent level.

1bad65
10-03-2008, 10:51 AM
No problem man, I love the fight game and like I said, teach at a local boxing gym. I am just intrigued with MMA and love the sport. I watch it and usually talk to you about because you seem very knowledgeable. I don't mean anything negative , I just respect everyone who gets in the ring, no matter what the talent level.

I like both too. I just watch more MMA, I admit that. Boxing is the 'sweet science', it always will be. But there is an art to MMA as well.

Thanks for the compliment. I train and teach some too. I'm only a BJJ BLue Belt, but I've been doing MMA now for about 5 years. Some of the fighters I know like me to go with them for sparring sessions and corner them. I'll actually be in Oklahoma next month with 2 of them. I love the sport. Once I get too old to spar and roll, I hope to stil work on the coaching side of it.

baya
10-03-2008, 10:53 AM
'themoc - frank would thoroughly ***** ken.

i wouldn't want to see this - ken's out to make a buck and that's when ****er's get hurt. i suspect we'll see this play out tomorrow night against kimbo although an upset isn't out of the question at all.

Cuauhtémoc1520
10-03-2008, 04:01 PM
I like both too. I just watch more MMA, I admit that. Boxing is the 'sweet science', it always will be. But there is an art to MMA as well.

Thanks for the compliment. I train and teach some too. I'm only a BJJ BLue Belt, but I've been doing MMA now for about 5 years. Some of the fighters I know like me to go with them for sparring sessions and corner them. I'll actually be in Oklahoma next month with 2 of them. I love the sport. Once I get too old to spar and roll, I hope to stil work on the coaching side of it.

Haha, I'm 36 and those "young" kids in the gym still catch a beating from me. I love sparring these young ****y kids that think that 36 is old, then I land a nice left hook to the liver and they change their minds.

I also do some cornering work for the head trainer. As a matter of fact I hope to do some here at the Seminole Hollywood Casino here in FLorida. We have this young kid he's about 14 that's really gifted.

1bad65
10-03-2008, 06:32 PM
Haha, I'm 36 and those "young" kids in the gym still catch a beating from me.

Dude, I'm 36 too!

Just last week I was sparring with 2 newer guys for the first time. They weren't ****y though. But they were like, 'man, you're good' It makes ya feel young. Then you gotta work with them so they can get good enough to take ya.