In a non-hype plain regular video i will post.

My hand speed has increased dramatically in the last month because of the training I have been doing for the last 3 months with that one goal after a thread on here saying you could not increase hand speed because it can't be taught or given.

I haven't done anything new with diet ... but a certain routine...and I've actually gained weight but gotten a lil smaller. I don't know why or how that even happened.

I'm stronger VERY MUCH faster. and I'm so happy this is happening right before my fight on OCT. 11th.


So I'll have someone record a simple Pad routine...... and from my other videos you guys that have watched them will see instantly that my hands have SERIOUSLY increased... I almost couldn't believe it when i watched it on camera.

Now I'm wondering if their is a Limit to this. because if i can gain this much if i do it forever i wonder how fast i can get.

I know the first thing I'll hear is..." Blah Blah people can gain a lil hand speed but blah blah it must have been natural" if you've seen my fights you will see that this new speed is not naturally given to me. maybe it was just sleeping but to awaken or gain such better speed is amazing to me.

I never hold back and my hands were simply and honestly just not this fast at all. And i'm laughing at before because I thought I was decently fast. I feel like a junior welter or light or sumthin with my hands.

They feel as if they are unconnected to my body and i feel as if im just a torso with legs and a head.

I also have a new question for someone who knows about twitch muscles and all that stuff.... if i were to stop would my gains leave? or do i have it.

tell us how you done it hten ? aha

well theres three types of twitch fibers, fast, slow and type 2..and if u stop training it takes about 2 weeks for muscles to atrophy...and yea there will be a limit, once your muscles get used to the routine your doing, you will hit a plateau, your going to have to keep changing up the routine to keep shocking ur muscles

Any quality you can improve by training, will slowly decrease back to your untrained level if you stop training.

And yes, there's a limit. The most dramatic increases in anything you train are always beginner gains. The closer you get to an elite level, the less you'll be able to improve. Increasing your bench press from 100 lbs to 150 is much easier, and much faster to do than increasing it from, say 400 to 425. The first is a 50% increase while the latter is a 6.25% increase, just to put that into perspective.
Shaving your 5 K running time from 30 minutes to 25 is much easier, and much faster than getting it from, say 17 minutes to 16.30. etc., etc....

Mate I'm looking for something like this, what training was it?

Mate I'm looking for something like this, what training was it?

sorry the training isn't for you im sure he worked hard for it..and training hard aint your deal right?

Mate I'm looking for something like this, what training was it?

go away you fat ****ing waste of space

post the routine Da1, a little extra hand speed never hurt anyone.

post the routine Da1, a little extra hand speed never hurt anyone.

Yea I'm gonna have the pads recorded...

Ok well Punchdrunk and the other guy meeny made me feel bad... Of course i know there would be a certain level somewhere... but i was hoping they would leave it open with something like "keep training and see"... and also since I've never been this fast in my life ever i thought it might have been something special.

Well the first part includes holding a 50 pound weight (at like a 5% incline or pull..Where my elbows are slightly bent) like im going to shrug in both hands but not reallly doing anything with it. Just walking... standing watching TV or boxing... while holding the weights. (Worse than it sounds)

Now i know once you use weights and stop your hands are all fast... but its been 10 days since I've done that part and its still here.

Another was just Hanging from my pull up bar... just dead hang while watching TV... or listening to music and a few times just reading *(of course taking breaks because its actually harder alot harder than it sounds.) The arms altogether get tired sorta fast.

I also have a round plate like board that I put on a basketball or Round bounce exercise ball and held it like i was going to do a push-up and then actually did one and leave the arm fully extended and then held again. I did that with both hands. It is CRAZY with getting it to balance. You will fall a few times trying this. Promise.


The other things I will wait to tell you till after you see the vid.. because they are either crazy and/or stupid and if yall aren't so impressed with the speed *(though you will definitely not be able to deny the increase from my vids.)* Then there won't be any use saying it.

I did them all to try and just make my arms so strong... but ended getting great speed. my arms feel like i don't even have them at all. like all the time. I've been loading up on Fish/shakes to help with the healing factor. and lots of homemade bannana bread.

I'll have it this week.

can't wait to see the vid and give the routine a try. thanks for the post

man how you read while hanging from a bar? lol

yea. do u hang the book on a string?

i'm not a boxer but i'm very interested in seeing your improvement. hope it has before and after clips.

Congrats, cant wait to see the vid

Now imagine what would happen if you did a real handspeed regimen :D

Now imagine what would happen if you did a real handspeed regimen :D

hey man. just wondering... are you a trainer, a strength and conditioning coach, a fighter, or some combo thereof?!?

hey man. just wondering... are you a trainer, a strength and conditioning coach, a fighter, or some combo thereof?!?

If you add retired to the fighter part, then all of the above. :)

attchuly what he is saying makes sense, his traning methods sound crazy but they would work,

hanging from a bar would tire the arms, doing this continuesly over and over again would force the arms to recover stronger, to keep up with what the body is trying to do.

im going to try a few of your metods only thing is i dont have apull up bar or anything like that,

what else could i use as resistance to my arms?

yea. do u hang the book on a string?

i'm not a boxer but i'm very interested in seeing your improvement. hope it has before and after clips.

lol.. well i have a bar that goes in any door... i just put it to the bathroom in my room and lay the magazine on my bed... let go change the page and go back.

lol.. im not readin shakespear or anything.

Now imagine what would happen if you did a real handspeed regimen :D

Do you think they would add more ontop of the imrpovement??? What are they? I'm really anxious for ya to see the speed vid to let me know. because if i could increase more before my openclass fights next year that would help with the way i fight in and out.

Probabaly wouldnt have to jab so much.

after the vid i'll post the other things for you to comment on.

I'm going to do all of these and if I don't go from my current Margarito h/s to judah in a week I'm suing your yanky ass.

then again carring weights around may make arms used to carying weights around and when you let go you feel as if your amrs are lighter and quicker, but they could be the egsactly the same as before, you just think it feels diffrent,

im going to try it anyway, when i get back from boxing tonight,

I dont know if im gonaa try carry weights while watching tv though, imagine walking in on sumone stood their watching deal or no deal with 2, dumbells haning from the end of either arm. lol.

I am also a lot faster than when I started boxing... People say you're born with amazing handspeed, but could you imagine a 10 yr old roy jones whos never boxed before just throw flurrys of punches? ofc not.

I am also a lot faster than when I started boxing... People say you're born with amazing handspeed, but could you imagine a 10 yr old roy jones whos never boxed before just throw flurrys of punches? ofc not.

lol i dontt hink thats the meaning, ''like babys throwing ten punches a second'' it just mkeans some people no mater how hard their train have theior litmits, to a CERTAIN EXTENT this is true, however as dacatas has found out it can be inproved.

Did anybody try this method out yet? lmk

My Reflexes are slow, so I am interested in trying this.
How often do you hold these weights or hang from a bar?
How many times a week and at what times?

DMC:boxing:

I am also a lot faster than when I started boxing... People say you're born with amazing handspeed, but could you imagine a 10 yr old roy jones whos never boxed before just throw flurrys of punches? ofc not.

Actually he probably would because he was a freakishly natural athlete. I also think he started before 10. brendan ingle said 9in the paddy and the prince book) he saw naz fight on a playground before he joined his gym, and that he was slipping and ducking punches and swinging back with venom. He had no technique buit the natural gifts were there.


Back to the topic, I didn't quite understand the incline bit but the rest sound slike it is just conditioning. Of course conditioning will help sustain speed and imrpove your general athleticism. Speed can be developed but you will just be developing to the max what nature has already given you. Pads, sparring, and shadowboxing with weights are the best speed training methods IMO.

Waitin on that vid.

My Reflexes are slow, so I am interested in trying this.
How often do you hold these weights or hang from a bar?
How many times a week and at what times?

DMC:boxing:
This won't help reflexes this will most likely help yor handspeed. Reflexes are taught per say you just have to do alot of sparring and get a trainer to do pads with you so you know when to throw a punch and when to bob and weave and move that help reflexes.

Actually he probably would because he was a freakishly natural athlete. I also think he started before 10. brendan ingle said 9in the paddy and the prince book) he saw naz fight on a playground before he joined his gym, and that he was slipping and ducking punches and swinging back with venom. He had no technique buit the natural gifts were there.


Back to the topic, I didn't quite understand the incline bit but the rest sound slike it is just conditioning. Of course conditioning will help sustain speed and imrpove your general athleticism. Speed can be developed but you will just be developing to the max what nature has already given you. Pads, sparring, and shadowboxing with weights are the best speed training methods IMO.


yeah i remeber reading about Ingle discovering naseem, he was only young about 7 years old, and tiny even for his age and these older boys were swinging at him, he was backed up against a fence and he was just bobbing weaving, slipping.....so yeah nature plays a part

What you've been doing are isometrics. They are very good for speed, when your gains in punching speed slow down from doing this try making it more sport specific. Keep hanging from the bar, it making you more flexible reducing 'drag' from tight opposing muscles.

Stand so your hand is pressed up against it at the start (of say..your jab) and push as hard as you can into the wall (make sure theres a stud behind it!) for about 3-5 seconds (focus on reaching maximum pressure as fast as possible), then do it at the halfway point and at near full extension, follow up with some shadowboxing to take advantage of the 'neural adaptions' and teach your body to generate the force quickly like you were just doing in a more dynamic fashion. I've messed around with this for a while and noticed gains pretty quickly in power and speed. Im experimenting with 5 one second bursts to hopefully increase speed even more since the longer pushes did more for power than speed but it helped both.

Its a drill I got from infinite intensity, just so you know I dont just make this **** up :P