View Full Version : [PLEASE HELP] who is the more natural finisher Theo or Babel
Dynamite Kid 09-11-2008, 10:38 AM who is the more natural finisher Theo or Babel ?
Babel has the edge on goal tally allthough i think that is misleading as Walcott has been having a confidence crisis for the last 12 months and has lots of preasure heaped on his shoulders after his world cup inclusion
im not overreacting to Theo's hatrick its just ive always maintained that Theo is a natural goal scorer and a few months ago i commented on a vid on youtube and i was having an argument with a Liverpool fan cause i thought Walcott was a better finisher and he thought Babel was the better Finisher
who do you think is the more natural finisher ,better finisher
BTW the biased Pool fan has no need to comment we know he picks Babel by default because he is soo biased
watch the composure he never lashes at the ball placement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AALrpPtO9Ug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asCfd5SB1Pg
Addition 09-11-2008, 10:42 AM Theo. He can finish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AALrpPtO9Ug
Both these goals show his finishing ability.
Nicky_Hatton 09-11-2008, 10:42 AM Babel is ****.
I don't believe anyone liverpool buys is good apart from Torress.
I have to respect Wengers judgement far more than Benitez.
Dynamite Kid 09-11-2008, 11:17 AM here is another anyone who thinks Babel is a more natural finisher is either biased or just aint got a clue what their watching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udvNzrjGZvo
a few more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHkEKAiphBA
Mozza 09-11-2008, 03:26 PM Babel is actually much better through the middle than he is on the wing. Whether either of them can be described as a natural finisher is debatable.
Dynamite Kid 09-11-2008, 04:13 PM Babel is actually much better through the middle than he is on the wing. Whether either of them can be described as a natural finisher is debatable.
Walcott does not get his chance down the middle though he is a striker not a winger
chrismart83 09-11-2008, 04:21 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL218iv6qC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzhxwsZJ8tA&feature=related
Babel has been pretty composed with the majority of chances which have came his way since he's been at Liverpool. Id like to see him used as a striker though so more chances would come is way.
Cant really say to much abut Walcott as i havent really seen enough of him. He was impressive the other night though and seems to be quickly maturing into a very good player.
Dynamite Kid 09-11-2008, 05:05 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL218iv6qC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzhxwsZJ8tA&feature=related
Babel has been pretty composed with the majority of chances which have came his way since he's been at Liverpool. Id like to see him used as a striker though so more chances would come is way.
Cant really say to much abut Walcott as i havent really seen enough of him. He was impressive the other night though and seems to be quickly maturing into a very good player.
i think Babel is a good player and he probably has the edge over Walcott when the ball is at his feet he has better control with the ball at pace etc but Walcott for me is the real finisher of the two
its like i dont think Michael Owen is a great finisher but he has great positioning and most of time his chances come when he is 5 ,10 yards out because of that great positioning and that IMO is why he has scored so many goals i dont think he is a clinical finisher by any stretch though
remember RVN before he left Man Utd he had not scored a goal from outside the box untill just before he left United you dont have to be a great finisher to be a great goal scorer IMO
Robbie Fowler was far more clincal than Owen IMO
Barndog 09-11-2008, 05:12 PM As soon as Theo was one on one with the keeper, it was no doubt. He's got skills.. i never rated him that incredibly, until last night.
Mozza 09-11-2008, 05:42 PM Walcott does not get his chance down the middle though he is a striker not a winger
Neither has Babel really, not at Liverpool anyway. My inclination is that Walcott is too small to play through the middle, much will depend on how he develops in the next few years, he still has plenty of time ahead of him.
Dynamite Kid 09-11-2008, 06:34 PM Neither has Babel really, not at Liverpool anyway. My inclination is that Walcott is too small to play through the middle, much will depend on how he develops in the next few years, he still has plenty of time ahead of him.
thats a fair point he does seem to struggle physically when played upfront but as you said he can develop that side of his game in time i dont think he will ever be a power house like Henry he is just not built that way but he can learn to hold defenders off better and shield the ball when he has to but he will probably be looking for through balls rather than being a link man but i agree with what you are saying he deffo needs to be streetwise if he is to play up top
abadger 09-11-2008, 06:55 PM Theo IMO. He's closer to being a proper striker than Babel, but they're both young so we'll see.
I actually wish Theo hadn't got that hattrick, because now he's going to get hyped out of all proportion, just like Rooney.
Alexis Vastine 09-12-2008, 12:15 PM Babel scores more goals including alot from outside the box too and in the Champions League. But Theo is a much better player, because besides scoring more goals Ryan loses the ball alot and isn't getting as good as predicted.
who is the more natural finisher Theo or Babel ?
Babel has the edge on goal tally allthough i think that is misleading as Walcott has been having a confidence crisis for the last 12 months and has lots of preasure heaped on his shoulders after his world cup inclusion
im not overreacting to Theo's hatrick its just ive always maintained that Theo is a natural goal scorer and a few months ago i commented on a vid on youtube and i was having an argument with a Liverpool fan cause i thought Walcott was a better finisher and he thought Babel was the better Finisher
who do you think is the more natural finisher ,better finisher
BTW the biased Pool fan has no need to comment we know he picks Babel by default because he is soo biased
watch the composure he never lashes at the ball placement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AALrpPtO9Ug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asCfd5SB1PgAt the end of a sentence, you press the full stop button. It really is that simple!!! I know chavs text each other without full stops, but you have a wider audience on here, yeah?
Dynamite Kid 09-12-2008, 12:16 PM Babel scores more goals including alot from outside the box too and in the Champions League. But Theo is a much better player, because besides scoring more goals Ryan loses the ball alot and isn't getting as good as predicted.
At the end of a sentence, you press the full stop button. It really is that simple!!! I know chavs text each other without full stops, but you have a wider audience on here, yeah?
bumping my threads cheers i love the points
Alexis Vastine 09-12-2008, 12:21 PM You're very welcome, and it's also very sad that you care about so much about points. You should be more worried about your inability to use full stops. Kids nowadays!
Dynamite Kid 09-12-2008, 12:23 PM You're very welcome, and it's also very sad that you care about so much about points. You should be more worried about your inability to use full stops. Kids nowadays!
well im not if i was i would use spell checker so i dont understand why you keep referring to grammer mistakes it does'nt bother me one bit :lol1:
Alexis Vastine 09-12-2008, 12:28 PM It's grammar, and it's doesn't. You said mistakes which means you didn't do it intentionally. That's sad, I thought you were going to say you can't be asked because you think your a cool chav.
Seriously mate, I ain't even taking the piss. Your posts simply don't make sense! try writing them in english, yeah.
Dynamite Kid 09-12-2008, 12:30 PM It's grammar, and it's doesn't. You said mistakes which means you didn't do it intentionally. That's sad, I thought you were going to say you can't be asked because you think your a cool chav.
Seriously mate, I ain't even taking the piss. Your posts simply don't make sense! try writing them in english, yeah.
changing the subject again huh
ownage right there
Alexis Vastine 09-12-2008, 12:33 PM WTF is this kid on about? I ain't joking and definitely not changing the subject. I don't understand your dumb chav language posts!!! No kidding mate, you've taken your Fred perry lifestyle too far.
Dynamite Kid 09-12-2008, 12:35 PM WTF is this kid on about? I ain't joking and definitely not changing the subject. I don't understand your dumb chav language posts!!! No kidding mate, you've taken your Fred perry lifestyle too far.
you understand you just dont like admitting when you are being owned
lets get back to Boxing who are your favourite fighters ?
Alexis Vastine 09-12-2008, 12:44 PM Repeating what i said to you a few pages back won't change the fact that I was right in prediction and you were wrong, asd always.
I'm more of a regular in the training forum, because unlike fat english armchair bums and PC warriors, I got to go to boxing now. The only reason why I watch so many fight tapes. In the meantime, you need to lose your virginity and learn about full stops.
Dynamite Kid 09-12-2008, 12:46 PM Repeating what i said to you a few pages back won't change the fact that I was right in prediction and you were wrong, asd always.
I'm more of a regular in the training forum, because unlike fat english armchair bums and PC warriors, I got to go to boxing now. The only reason why I watch so many fight tapes. In the meantime, you need to lose your virginity and learn about full stops.
yeah yeah
your a bum mate and you know jack about Boxing thats why you stay away from NSB
you are a casual fan mate ive Boxed and i dont mean just sparring down the local gym ive had fights for a club and i was training at a pro gym not so long ago
Tuggers1986 09-13-2008, 06:40 AM Theo.
All of his goal against Croatie were great finishes and it showed great composure. I probably would have scuffed em all.
kayjay 09-13-2008, 06:43 AM Theo probably.
I don't think of Babel as a great finisher. Theo will likely have years down the road in which he scores 30 goals or so.
MickyHatton 09-13-2008, 01:14 PM Its impossible to say at this stage. Walcott looks the better finisher if you ask me to swing one way.
Babel's finishing is more in the Shearer mode in that he usually puts his boot through the ball, Walcott is more in the Ian Wright mode but its early days.
Babel scored 11 times last season and 1 today from the wing and mostly off the bench therefore he can obviously score goals plus he has 5 goals for Holland.
Different players, both quick (Walcott has the edge), both skillful (Again Walcott) but Babel is far larger and stronger.
Early days for both players, Nicky, we dont always see eye to eye mate, in regards to Babel, how many 20 year old wingers in their debut season manage to score 11 goals?
Dynamite Kid 09-13-2008, 01:25 PM Its impossible to say at this stage. Walcott looks the better finisher if you ask me to swing one way.
Babel's finishing is more in the Shearer mode in that he usually puts his boot through the ball, Walcott is more in the Ian Wright mode but its early days.
Babel scored 11 times last season and 1 today from the wing and mostly off the bench therefore he can obviously score goals plus he has 5 goals for Holland.
Different players, both quick (Walcott has the edge), both skillful (Again Walcott) but Babel is far larger and stronger.
Early days for both players, Nicky, we dont always see eye to eye mate, in regards to Babel, how many 20 year old wingers in their debut season manage to score 11 goals?
i agree
but i just like to add that Theo has started most of his games from the bench aswell but the difference is Theo is not a winger and has had to play on the wing in those sub apearences and IMO it knocked his confidence playing outta position
i think Babel has better feet than Walcott skillwise though MickyHatton
MickyHatton 09-14-2008, 07:37 AM i agree
but i just like to add that Theo has started most of his games from the bench aswell but the difference is Theo is not a winger and has had to play on the wing in those sub apearences and IMO it knocked his confidence playing outta position
i think Babel has better feet than Walcott skillwise though MickyHatton
Perhaps mate, I have seen that much of Walcott but have seen a fair amount of Babel.
Babel has great feet but his first touch is terrible at the min, both players as shown yesterday can dribble and beat players. Also Babel is two years older than Walcott.
Dynamite Kid 09-14-2008, 02:46 PM Perhaps mate, I have seen that much of Walcott but have seen a fair amount of Babel.
Babel has great feet but his first touch is terrible at the min, both players as shown yesterday can dribble and beat players. Also Babel is two years older than Walcott.
yeah i have to admit i have not seen much of Babel TBH but ive seen plenty of Theo
War For 94 09-14-2008, 02:52 PM Theo's confidence is about as fragile as some 80 year old pensioner's legs after being mugged by some coloured fella in Brixton on a Saturday night.
Alexis Vastine 09-14-2008, 06:52 PM yeah yeah
your a bum mate and you know jack about Boxing thats why you stay away from NSB
you are a casual fan mate ive Boxed and i dont mean just sparring down the local gym ive had fights for a club and i was training at a pro gym not so long ago
Like I said, NSB is a waste of time for me as I would be eductaing the fools. WTF you want a medal because you've boxed? Alot of people in here have you turd. Wow wee he trained with pro's. It's not a baosting contest but while we are at it I have done that too and knocked a few out, in fact I've even done my pro medical and got a license! I'm electrifying and would probably knock you out.
That's why i have better things to do than spend an entire weekend crying like a girl on here. I like the way you used the past tence. Proves your a bum and that's why your still here at 5.30pm whereas I have to make my way to the gym to complete my post injury comeback!
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