View Full Version : Ring's P4P list


INFAMOUZ
11-03-2004, 10:32 PM
POUND-FOR-POUND
1. BERNARD HOPKINS
Middleweight
2. FLOYD MAYWEATHER
Junior Welterweight
3. ANTONIO TARVER
Light Heavyweight
4. WINKY WRIGHT
Junior Middleweight
5. ERIK MORALES
Junior Lightweight
6. MANNY PACQUIAO
Featherweight
7. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
Featherweight
8. KOSTYA TSZYU
Junior Welterweight
9. JAMES TONEY
Heavyweight
10. JOSE LUIS CASTILLO
Lightweight


How the hell is Toney up there, his best fight was against Will Smith in "Ali" and the only time he'll come close to being champion in the heavyweight division!!!

julDilla
11-03-2004, 10:36 PM
i really dont understand how tarver is third, hasnt kosta been off for 2 years? he still on top 10 WTF

Sir_Jose
11-03-2004, 10:43 PM
POUND-FOR-POUND
1. BERNARD HOPKINS
Middleweight
2. FLOYD MAYWEATHER
Junior Welterweight
3. ANTONIO TARVER
Light Heavyweight
4. WINKY WRIGHT
Junior Middleweight
5. ERIK MORALES
Junior Lightweight
6. MANNY PACQUIAO
Featherweight
7. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
Featherweight
8. KOSTYA TSZYU
Junior Welterweight
9. JAMES TONEY
Heavyweight
10. JOSE LUIS CASTILLO
Lightweight


How the hell is Toney up there, his best fight was against Will Smith in "Ali" and the only time he'll come close to being champion in the heavyweight division!!!

Ring's p4p list has become a flat out joke over the last few years

jack_the_rippuh
11-03-2004, 10:46 PM
Tarver doesn't deserve to be third. Where is Corrales?

restless_438
11-04-2004, 02:16 AM
yeah tarver has no business being ahead of half the guys on there

julDilla
11-04-2004, 02:24 AM
tarver is like 35 years old, not even 25 fights, 2 loses.

only guy he beat was a way past his prime roy jones jr

Dark Destroyer
11-04-2004, 05:09 AM
Tarver third???? WTF :eek: next they will be rating Glencoffe Johnson above the likes of Manny, Morales, Marquez, Winky and Toney. :rolleyes:

Kostya shouldn't be in their either, he has been too inactive to be taken seriously in these rankings.

Nick54
11-04-2004, 10:57 AM
tarver is like 35 years old, not even 25 fights, 2 loses.

only guy he beat was a way past his prime roy jones jr

Esspicially since he lost to jones just before that. tarver at 3 is bull****.

GxBrak
11-04-2004, 11:00 AM
does winky wright deserver to be fourth? i dont really know im asking.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
11-04-2004, 11:07 AM
Ring's p4p list has become a flat out joke over the last few years

Indeed .

Dark Destroyer
11-04-2004, 11:13 AM
does winky wright deserver to be fourth? i dont really know im asking.

Winky hasn't been given the respect he deserves for years. Only now the Shane Mosley lime light is on him he is getting the respect he does deserve. He is a great tactical fighter who utilises his lack of power well with a unbelieveable counter/combination punching defensive style. I have no issues with him been forth but Tarver at third is a joke.

BTW Winky will give us a replay of the first fight on November 20th when he fights Mosley again. Unless Mosley knocks him out i think he's lost again.

Dude
11-04-2004, 11:13 AM
This list is one of the most stupid I've seen in recent times. Tarver 3rd? Toney at 9? Kostya still on the list? Funny in a sad kinda way.

mic573
11-04-2004, 11:40 AM
Ring Magazine has never been good with rankings and p4p list so it is no surprise to me that thier list looks like that.

syn0879
11-04-2004, 11:51 AM
I'm trying to figure out how they ranked Tarver #3.

jabsRstiff
11-04-2004, 11:51 AM
Tarver deserves to be in the top 10, based on his demolition of the guy who topped many folks' lists.
But, we shoulda learned our lesson with VERNON FORREST. I, myself, was guilty of putting him up near the top based on his first win over Mosley (who was my #1 guy). Forrest looked like **** in the second fight, & we know about his fights with Mayorga.


I certainly can't see putting Tarver over Morales & Pac....two guys who have impressive BODIES OF WORK...not just a decent resume & one very stellar victory.

QueenCity
11-04-2004, 12:03 PM
I never could understand how their P4P rankings can be so out of wack and their rankings for each weight class can be so well done. :confused:

QueenCity
11-04-2004, 12:08 PM
Tarver deserves to be in the top 10, based on his demolition of the guy who topped many folks' lists.
But, we shoulda learned our lesson with VERNON FORREST. I, myself, was guilty of putting him up near the top based on his first win over Mosley (who was my #1 guy). Forrest looked like **** in the second fight, & we know about his fights with Mayorga.


I certainly can't see putting Tarver over Morales & Pac....two guys who have impressive BODIES OF WORK...not just a decent resume & one very stellar victory.


Thats kinda how I feel about Winky Wright, he can eventully a top pound for pound fighter, but not simply after I one great night against Shane Mosley. (a man who took a serious jump up in weight) It seems like everyone but me thinks he is right up there with the top fighters. I've always thought that Vargas won most of the rounds way back when they fought.

guru
11-04-2004, 12:30 PM
look below

Hurlex
11-04-2004, 12:35 PM
manny is to high...he cant be after JMM

abdiel2k3
11-04-2004, 01:38 PM
POUND-FOR-POUND
1. BERNARD HOPKINS
Middleweight
2. FLOYD MAYWEATHER
Junior Welterweight
3. ANTONIO TARVER
Light Heavyweight
4. WINKY WRIGHT
Junior Middleweight
5. ERIK MORALES
Junior Lightweight
6. MANNY PACQUIAO
Featherweight
7. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
Featherweight
8. KOSTYA TSZYU
Junior Welterweight
9. JAMES TONEY
Heavyweight
10. JOSE LUIS CASTILLO
Lightweight



makes sense for most part
cept id have JMM and PAC tied
i wouldnt have tzyu up there at all
Toney wouldnt be up there either
id prolly have corrales tied or one above castillo

patto1984
11-04-2004, 06:36 PM
well at least we all agree BH is #1. I think we all do

Supafly25
11-07-2004, 08:22 AM
well im guessing every1 now agrees that Tszyu deserves to be there. How does a lucky punch u threw wit ur eyes closed get u the no. 3 ranking???