On a scale of 1-10.

Lil Wayne is very talented. But I question if always utilizes his talent the right way. I'd rate him an 8.

5...........

5 or 6. I'm in a good mood, i gave him a 6.

Weezy gets a 6 from me...

right now id say 6 but a year ago and prior to that he was between 8 and 10 depending on the song.

I'd say an 8. Some solid/classic mixtapes and three solid albums in a row. I do think that C3 was a step bacl lyrically from C2 though.

right now id say 6 but a year ago and prior to that he was between 8 and 10 depending on the song.

Wtf.. that does not make any sense, how has he gotten worse ?? If anything he got better.

Clever with wordplay sometimes, often has a good hook, decent featured artist a lot of time, 5/10

Wtf.. that does not make any sense, how has he gotten worse ?? If anything he got better.

no need to explain, just listen to Tha Carter II...then listen to Tha Carter II, an ull be askin urself, tha **** happened to Wayne?

Tha Carter II ****S on Tha Carter III in just about every aspect an album can

lyrics
production
chorus'
album structure
****, even album cover, etc.

the only thing Tha Carter III has on Tha Carter II is features...

with that said, 7.

Wtf.. that does not make any sense, how has he gotten worse ?? If anything he got better.

This lil wayne>>>>>>lil wayne now

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Lil wayne was better in every way....lyrics, swag, flow, etc.

the lil wayne that did dear summer was great with a capital G.

On a mc level he's one of the worst mc's i have ever heard he's a 1

On his game, an 8
The rest of the time, 6.

I rate him as being VERY average. I don't view any of his Carter albums as being anything creative or exceptional at all.

right now T.I. is better then him lyrically and content wise

3 he's overrated imo

lil wayne is garbage

The carter 2 is not better then carter 3, damn carter 3 went platnium first day??

The music is different the carter 2 is more mainstreem hip hop, but after that he started blowing up the mixtapes. with his unique flow... so he switched it up and did that with the carter 3 and look what happen,, lil wayne use to have better lyrics back in the day, but he was making weak music.. Now he uses these metaphores and started ****in with these drugs and his music is the first of its kind!! hip hop would be DEAD if wayne wasnt alive... he is on every song out rite now!! what i mean is if wayne was not rappin hip hop would be non existint.. even though lyrically it already is dead.. but lil wayne has been the biggest star the last 2 o 3 years.

Carter II was the best album he has made, it is far superior then Carter III....

^^ explain why u think that ^^

The carter 2 is not better then carter 3, damn carter 3 went platnium first day??

The music is different the carter 2 is more mainstreem hip hop, but after that he started blowing up the mixtapes. with his unique flow... so he switched it up and did that with the carter 3 and look what happen,, lil wayne use to have better lyrics back in the day, but he was making weak music.. Now he uses these metaphores and started ****in with these drugs and his music is the first of its kind!! hip hop would be DEAD if wayne wasnt alive... he is on every song out rite now!! what i mean is if wayne was not rappin hip hop would be non existint.. even though lyrically it already is dead.. but lil wayne has been the biggest star the last 2 o 3 years.

dont post in this section, you're a moron who doesn't know **** about hip-hop.

to say Tha Carter III is better then Tha Carter II automatically makes your opinion on anything regarding hip-hop void.

Killa cam, look at ur USERNAME... lmao .. anything you say about hip hop is bull****..

We all know camron has to be the worse rapper ever..

1. hes the most commercial rapper ive ever heard. ive never heard a single song where he said anything, he talks alot but doesnt say anything

Killa cam, look at ur USERNAME... lmao .. anything you say about hip hop is bull****..

We all know camron has to be the worse rapper ever..



True, but he's still right.

^^ explain why u think that ^^


Carter II beats Carter III in all departments, from Weezys style, delivery, flow, lyrics to the actual content...

Carter II is regarded highly in Hip Hop, Carter III is not on the same level, it is a really good album but is nothing compared to the previous one....

Killa cam, look at ur USERNAME... lmao .. anything you say about hip hop is bull****..

We all know camron has to be the worse rapper ever..

you probably dont listen to him if this is what you think...yea, some of his radio songs arent the best lyrically but he can put them multis together. Now everything you say is bull****, you've been exposed as a hater. I got sumthin for you son

http://i27.tinypic.com/4tlpom.jpg

you probably dont listen to him if this is what you think...yea, some of his radio songs arent the best lyrically but he can put them multis together. Now everything you say is bull****, you've been exposed as a hater. I got sumthin for you son

http://i27.tinypic.com/4tlpom.jpg

MM OKAY WHY DONT YOU POST SOME OF HIS LYRICAL SONGS??? LOL YOU CANT!!! HATER!! HI HATER!!

Carter II beats Carter III in all departments, from Weezys style, delivery, flow, lyrics to the actual content...

Carter II is regarded highly in Hip Hop, Carter III is not on the same level, it is a really good album but is nothing compared to the previous one....

It is your opinion if someone likes the new way wayne raps over the old way, then the carter 3 is better... Honestly on the carter 3 you can get ****ed up high ass hell and listen to anysong and it will trip you out.. The carter 2 does not do that.. It is all depends on what you taste is.

if cam wasnt lyrical then why would they make a mixtape called lyrical exercise?

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if cam wasnt lyrical then why would they make a mixtape called lyrical exercise?

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Maybe becuase he is confused what lyrical means..

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^^ lmao end of arguement, cam is ass.

Wayne all day. Take it like it is. Some ppl like him, some ppl don't.

Maybe becuase he is confused what lyrical means..

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^^ lmao end of arguement, cam is ass.

hahahah, if you base a rapper's career off of one track I can understand your stupidity in thinking that Tha Carter III is better then Tha Carter II.

that aint even in his top 10 worst tracks lyricly...clown ass nig.ga :rofl:

Killa cam, look at ur USERNAME... lmao .. anything you say about hip hop is bull****..

We all know camron has to be the worse rapper ever..

True that.

The carter 2 is not better then carter 3, damn carter 3 went platnium first day??

The music is different the carter 2 is more mainstreem hip hop, but after that he started blowing up the mixtapes. with his unique flow... so he switched it up and did that with the carter 3 and look what happen,, lil wayne use to have better lyrics back in the day, but he was making weak music.. Now he uses these metaphores and started ****in with these drugs and his music is the first of its kind!! hip hop would be DEAD if wayne wasnt alive... he is on every song out rite now!! what i mean is if wayne was not rappin hip hop would be non existint.. even though lyrically it already is dead.. but lil wayne has been the biggest star the last 2 o 3 years.

You have no ****in' Idea what you're talking about!!!!

Killa cam, look at ur USERNAME... lmao .. anything you say about hip hop is bull****..

We all know camron has to be the worse rapper ever..

I don't like Cam'ron at all but Killa Cam knows far more about hip hop than you! I'd rather talk to him in this forum than listen to the bull**** you spew anyday. You're wrong about most things you said!

*- Carter III WAS NOT as good as Carter II.

*- Hip Hop is not dead and if Wayne never made music again it wouldn't make the impact you think it would.

*- For you to say nothing lyrical comes out these days just makes me think that either A, You're a ****in Idiot or B, You're not listening to the right people, but to be honest it's a good chance that you're both.

Go listen to these and then tell me nothing lyrical is coming out...

Common
Lupe
Nas
Talib kweli
Pharoahe Monche
Royce Da 5'9"
Termanology
Ludacris

Maybe becuase he is confused what lyrical means..

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^^ lmao end of arguement, cam is ass.

Most rappers dumb it down when they make songs for mtv. Because of stereotypes theres a large group who will never realize how clever and lyrical camron can be, i was once part of that group until i started listening to him more.

If you really think carter 3 is better then carter 2 then i feel bad for you. Lil wayne was better in every aspect. Maybe the beats are more commercial on carter 3 but just about any camron cd is more lyrical then carter 3.

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Carter 2 more commercial than C3 wtf?

Lollipop
Got Money
Comfortable
Mrs. Officer

Hip Hop wouldn't be dead without Wayne. That's one of the dumbest things I've heard.

Carter 2 more commercial than C3 wtf?

Lollipop
Got Money
Comfortable
Mrs. Officer

Im sure if this is directed at me, my post wasnt very clear but what i was saying is maybe he likes carter 3 more because its more commercial.

Most rappers dumb it down when they make songs for mtv. Because of stereotypes theres a large group who will never realize how clever and lyrical camron can be, i was once part of that group until i started listening to him more.

If you really think carter 3 is better then carter 2 then i feel bad for you. Lil wayne was better in every aspect. Maybe the beats are more commercial on carter 3 but just about any camron cd is more lyrical then carter 3.



Carter 2 more commercial than C3 wtf?

Lollipop
Got Money
Comfortable
Mrs. Officer

You got it wrong. He said Carter III was more commercial.

Hip Hop wouldn't be dead without Wayne. That's one of the dumbest things I've heard.

So are you saying it would be dead without him? or not.

Not very clear.

hahahah, if you base a rapper's career off of one track I can understand your stupidity in thinking that Tha Carter III is better then Tha Carter II.

that aint even in his top 10 worst tracks lyricly...clown ass nig.ga :rofl:

yes it is

You have no ****in' Idea what you're talking about!!!!

i know exactly what im talking about lil wayne is the biggest thing in hip hop it disent makkter if he sucks to you!

i know exactly what im talking about lil wayne is the biggest thing in hip hop it disent makkter if he sucks to you!

He doesn't suck to me. I listen to the Carter II and a few of his mixtapes on a weekly basis, but you saying hip hop would be dead without him proves two things. 1, You're missing out on A LOT of good music and 2, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

So are you saying it would be dead without him? or not.

Not very clear.

I said hip hop would not be dead if he were absent. Meaning if he were gone the genre would still be alive and well.

I said hip hop would not be dead if he were absent. Meaning if he were gone the genre would still be alive and well.

Yeah I thught you meant that. you always talk sense.

Yeah I thught you meant that. you always talk sense.

I could see how it would mix you up. After I posted it, it seemed kind of funny.

He doesn't suck to me. I listen to the Carter II and a few of his mixtapes on a weekly basis, but you saying hip hop would be dead without him proves two things. 1, You're missing out on A LOT of good music and 2, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

NO your not getting what im saying, GOOD music now a days GET NO RADIO PLAY ok?? all that is on the radio is t pain and lil wayne , soulja boy and people like them.. so what im saying is soulja boy and all them ARE HIP HOP now in 2008 if you like it or not.. The good music being made does not get played!! that why they say hip hop is dead!! becuase you dont hear it anymore!! lil wayne IS HIP HOP (if you like it or not) cant argue and without him all that would be on the radio is bow wow and soulja boy, t pain!! hip hop is already dead without wayne it would be...... wow who knows..

I give him a 2 plus 1 point for every 5 years of my complete bias that rap has been dead. Overall he gets a 4, which is extremely generous for the work he has done.

NO your not getting what im saying, GOOD music now a days GET NO RADIO PLAY ok?? all that is on the radio is t pain and lil wayne , soulja boy and people like them.. so what im saying is soulja boy and all them ARE HIP HOP now in 2008 if you like it or not.. The good music being made does not get played!! that why they say hip hop is dead!! becuase you dont hear it anymore!! lil wayne IS HIP HOP (if you like it or not) cant argue and without him all that would be on the radio is bow wow and soulja boy, t pain!! hip hop is already dead without wayne it would be...... wow who knows..

So you are saying hip hop is dead because it doesn't get radio play?? Who gives a **** what the general public think?? Hip hop is far from dead, I couldn't give a **** if it's never played on the radio again and Wayne never makes another record, Hip hop is alive and well and always will be. There's alot of good hip hop being made, you just got to know where to look.

For example.... If Dre drops Detox this year, and the album is absolutely amazing, but it doesn't get played on the radio, does that make hip hop dead? If I like an emcee but he NEVER gets played on the radio does that mean it's not hip hop?

Or from 1991 to 1996. Nas, Biggie and Jay weren't on the radio that much really, and Wu Tang were hardly ever heard on the radio, would you say hip hop was dead back then?

Now we have the internet and new, talented artists are coming through all the time, as well as being able to listen to our old, favourtie artists whenever we want, hip hop will never be dead.

7...

one of the top rappers around right now but is by no means a great... enjoyable music but generally nothing special

So you are saying hip hop is dead because it doesn't get radio play?? Who gives a **** what the general public think?? Hip hop is far from dead, I couldn't give a **** if it's never played on the radio again and Wayne never makes another record, Hip hop is alive and well and always will be. There's alot of good hip hop being made, you just got to know where to look.

For example.... If Dre drops Detox this year, and the album is absolutely amazing, but it doesn't get played on the radio, does that make hip hop dead? If I like an emcee but he NEVER gets played on the radio does that mean it's not hip hop?

Or from 1991 to 1996. Nas, Biggie and Jay weren't on the radio that much really, and Wu Tang were hardly ever heard on the radio, would you say hip hop was dead back then?

Now we have the internet and new, talented artists are coming through all the time, as well as being able to listen to our old, favourtie artists whenever we want, hip hop will never be dead.


Yes when good hip hop dose not get radio play it is dead, because you will not hear it! you hardly hear **** nas puts out! because no one gives a **** .

Yes when good hip hop dose not get radio play it is dead, because you will not hear it! you hardly hear **** nas puts out! because no one gives a **** .

Well that just shows you're an absolute ****ing idiot then doesn't it.

Turn your radio off and get down to the record store!

Hip Hop aint dead!!

Dick.

Well that just shows you're an absolute ****ing idiot then doesn't it.

Turn your radio off and get down to the record store!

Hip Hop aint dead!!

Dick.

Lol, ur opinion means jack... we got legend rappers who say hip hop is dead..
What you got to say about hip hop dosent really matter.. You just have a really ****ed up warp perspective of hip hop, and that is fine! totally fine.. but its not the truth! the truth is HIP HOP IS dead, and lik wayne is the biggest star out in the dead hip hop world.

Lol, ur opinion means jack... we got legend rappers who say hip hop is dead..
What you got to say about hip hop dosent really matter.. You just have a really ****ed up warp perspective of hip hop, and that is fine! totally fine.. but its not the truth! the truth is HIP HOP IS dead, and lik wayne is the biggest star out in the dead hip hop world.

For a start... let's see how many people on here agree with you. We all know you're a dick who doesn't know what he's talking about. Your opinion doesn't mean ****.

You dont got an argument the fact is, HIP HOP IS DEAD! They got T shirts got damnit! And lil wayne is the biggest thing in the music industry.

You dont got an argument the fact is, HIP HOP IS DEAD! They got T shirts got damnit! And lil wayne is the biggest thing in the music industry.

I do have an argument. I just cant be arsed wating my time with a little prick like you who just spews bull**** and never listens to reason. If Wayne was murdered tomorrow would people stop listening to hip hop? Hip hop aint dead at all. Only in your little commercialized bull**** mind it is. There are plenty of emcees making FAR better music than anything Wayne has put out in a long time, only problem is that you haven't heard of them because they are not repeated every 30 minutes on Hot97

How ignorant is the dadon dude loool How can you say Hip Hop is dead? There is so much material out there its not even funny. And saying Lil Wayne is the only good "comercial" rapper out there is ridiculous. T.I. is ****ting on Wayne right now, Whatever you like was # 1 on the charts for awhile, and Swagger like us just hit # 5.
I have Paper Trail btw, let me know if you *****s want it. Wayne good, but hes past his prime. His prime was back in the Dedication mixtapes he did with DJ Drama (especially Dedication 2) Dude needs to stop abusing them drugs, hes gonna die before he hits 30.

With that being said, I'd rate him a 7 now.

How ignorant is the dadon dude loool How can you say Hip Hop is dead? There is so much material out there its not even funny. And saying Lil Wayne is the only good "comercial" rapper out there is ridiculous. T.I. is ****ting on Wayne right now, Whatever you like was # 1 on the charts for awhile, and Swagger like us just hit # 5.
I have Paper Trail btw, let me know if you *****s want it. Wayne good, but hes past his prime. His prime was back in the Dedication mixtapes he did with DJ Drama (especially Dedication 2) Dude needs to stop abusing them drugs, hes gonna die before he hits 30.

With that being said, I'd rate him a 7 now.

So your saying that todays hip hop is better then the hip hop from the 80's and 90's?
thats ignorant my friend.

So your saying that todays hip hop is better then the hip hop from the 80's and 90's?
thats ignorant my friend.

Where the hell in his post has he said anything even remotely connected to that?

LOOOL guy you misunderstood me. I looove 90's Hip Hop, I love Gangstarr, Blackstar, Common, Wu-tang, BIG, Pac, some Pharsyde, some ATCQ, Big Pun, some old Mobb Deep back in their Juvenile Hell or Infamous days, the list keeps going...I love it all man. Im just saying dadon saying hip hop is dead is just ridiculous. If you say Hip Hop is dead your not listening...period. There is so much **** out there. Im saying there are still aritsts besides WAYNE putting out good music.

Hip hop is way dead, when soulja boy and bow wow are killing the radio, and BET and MTV you know hi hop is dead. Where is this music you guys talk so much about? You have to click 5 different links just to hear a NAZ song but to hear bow wow just press on in the car!! That is when you know hip hop is dead, if you cant accept that than.. You are retard

Hip hop is way dead, when soulja boy and bow wow are killing the radio, and BET and MTV you know hi hop is dead. Where is this music you guys talk so much about? You have to click 5 different links just to hear a NAZ song but to hear bow wow just press on in the car!! That is when you know hip hop is dead, if you cant accept that than.. You are retard

Go kill yourself.

Hip Hop aint dead!
It has evolved!!

Just as R&B has, just as neo-soul has, just as Pop has, just as rock has, etc...

Hip Hop aint dead!
It has evolved!!

Just as R&B has, just as neo-soul has, just as Pop has, just as rock has, etc...

WOW
RnB evolved?? are you serious

kci jojo, boyz 2 men, new edition.. TO neyo trey songs chris brown..

No it did not evolve it got worse...

Hip hop did not "evolve" it BECAME! dance music

i dont like lil wayne