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Griff 314
09-09-2008, 04:46 AM
how do you know if yuo have this?.. im 5'10-11 138

ive been told i hit hard for a lightweight but ive never knocked anyone out?just a question for any of you that have koed someone?
how do you know if you got that power

Salty
09-09-2008, 08:09 AM
Accuracy is almost if not more important than power. You can have as much power in the world, but if you hit them on the forehead it isn't going to knock them out. See PBF against hatton, hardly a powerful punch, yet got him perfectly. Stick to learning the basics, also knockouts in AM boxing is very rare in lower weight classes. Most stoppages are due to nose bleeds, people taking a beating or being hit in the liver, not very often are they KO'd as in the pro's.

peewee1460
09-09-2008, 01:10 PM
salty said it best but just to reiterate, odds are fighting at 138 or below, i'm 132, you're probably not going to knock someone out in the classic ten cont sense of the phrase. and another thing, if your opponent is tall and wiry he can probably bang.

Alexis Vastine
09-09-2008, 02:37 PM
Salty has a point but PBF does have power, and some people are naturally more powerful than others. Accuracy comes with experience too, but not all accurate boxers are punchers. Some punchers are not accurate and take time to connect like Julian Jackson.

You will know you have it when you take someone out clean with one solid shot during a bout. I knew I had power, but when it was put into practice I then knew I was a good puncher. Until then, your power means nothing. it gives you confidence once you have KO'd someone because i then followed it up with taking out a fat bouncer!

I'm not trying to boast wi' that example, but show that some people have naturally heavy hands whereas others might have lightning relexes or phenomenal hand speed. Some have all three. I have 2 of the 3.

Viktor777
09-09-2008, 04:04 PM
Is this Amir Khan?

KostyaTszyu44
09-09-2008, 06:48 PM
power is good but isnt the most important thing a boxer can have

speed and accuracy are way more important, especially in the amateur ranks

as for me, im not really a big puncher by normal standards, but for my weight i can hit reasonably hard but not one punch KO kind of power (i dont think anyone my weight/age has that power)

ive never badly hurt anyone in sparring (theyre all bigger than me anyway) but when i sparred a kid my size one time, i did drop him with a short bodyshot but he wasnt really hurt and kept sparring

Alexis Vastine
09-09-2008, 06:51 PM
That is true that in the AM ranks speed and maybe workrate are more important. but in the pro's power is very very important. When you go into next mans backyard and the ref (they score bouts in England) is on his side, a KO is the difference between a succesful career and a near miss. Even if you do not get the KO, power will force them back. In the AM's power is handy too from time to time. you may not have time to take him ouit but you can force him back or hurt him which is sueful.

DJ QUIK
09-09-2008, 09:51 PM
Is this Amir Khan?

:rofl::rofl: thats wrong:rofl:

JayCoe
09-10-2008, 04:53 PM
In Jack Dempsey's book - Championship fighting, he starts the book with a brilliant attention grabbing way. He says imagine you drop a baby out of a high buildings window and it falls and hits a man on the head, it will either knock him out or kill him. That tiny harmless weightless baby therefore just killed a man using ONLY it's body weight and the natural forces, in this case gravity, essentially mass x velocity. He then goes on to say, well, you weigh more than a baby, so if a baby's bodyweight can kill a man because of it's high speed drop, then your body weight can knock one out. Ok, so everytime you throw a punch you're not dropping out of a window on his face, but essentially you're pushing your, say, 10 stone body through your body into a concentrated area. So, you're probably throwing through quite a good lb of weight to this face over and over again. It's about proper technique, not raw power.

There is no such thing as "knock out power", as in a power range which knocks people out. A knock out usually comes from two ways, the first being the build up of brain trauma. Essentially each punch delivered does some degree of damage to the brain, not as in "brain damage", but that can occur of course. This shaking around damages the brain in different areas which eventually tells the brain to "re-boot" or causes the brain to "crash", this then brings the knock out. Tyson was a briliiant knock out artist, mostly because when he was an amatuer Cus taught him the art of the knocking them out which is why Cus was kind of on the side lines abit in amatuer boxing. Watch this short youtube clip to see how Tyson does exactly what I just described:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_rNt-FNMX8

Now notice how the massive tyson hook which is INCREDIBLY powerful does not knock Thomas out. That is a classic example of how a big punch with great body weight behind it, great strength, great speed, great technique and all in all great power does not mean a knock out. Tyson knocks Thomas out by shaking his head around as much as possible, rather than a jab, jab, hook, he goes like hook, jab, uppercut, hook, jab, basically hes throwing punches from every direction to move that head as much as possible and cause as much trauma.

Then the other way to knock them out is to hit specific places i.e the temple or jaw where bunches of nerves can bring the maaaaaaan down. Never concentrate on knocking them out this way though because when you throw "knock out punches" as opposed to "powerful punches", as in when you throw a punch to specifically knock them out you're probably going to **** up and leave yourself open or do the classic "movie star" pose when you throw a big punch and afterwards essentially hold for "that photo" which of course wont be taken...And then you get hurt.

Forget knocking them out, concentrate on fighting well, aim for the places you're supposed to aim, the jaw and temple being two of them, the knock out will come from proper technique, a good shot and speed. If it was soley down to power the heavy weights would all be finishing in the 1st and the featherweights right through to the welter/middle would never see any, but that's not the case.

Never go out to knock them out with that big punch of power, it most likely wont work and it will most likely end up that you get hurt/lose. Fight as fast, accurate and correctly (shifting bodyweight through) as you can, and if you're doing it well enough and the person doens't have a rock solid chin, they'll go down. But it's much much much harder than people ever think.

Alexis Vastine
09-11-2008, 12:00 AM
Foregt the scientific long winded explanations. Some people have naturally heavy hands like Iron Mike, Prince Naseem or Kostya Tszyu but maybe on a smaller scale. That is what is meant by knockout power!

JayCoe
09-11-2008, 05:47 PM
Alexis, that's rubbish.Their technique made them knock out artists, just watch how Tyson pushed his entire weight behind the big outside hooks. It's technique, boxers are made, not the myth that they're born. Some pick up the sport better, yes of course the same as any, but that's the extent of it.