View Full Version : Did Jack Dempsey have the strongest punches ever?


Tyson123
09-02-2008, 07:31 PM
"His hands were plastered!"

"His hands are made out of steel, he is wolverine, he is a cyborg of unbelievable destruction. He is robocop."

"A man simply cannot hit as hard as Dempsey. He hits near 8000 tons of force."

"Oh my."

All of these quotes are post Jess Willard.

Dempsey is the greatest.

marciano1952
09-02-2008, 09:08 PM
he left a penament dent on the side of Willards head no joke man Willard even pointed it out for the rest of his life telling people Jake Dempsey did that to him

and to put Willard down like he did in a mere few secounds when Willard had never been knocked down

The Iron Man
09-02-2008, 10:01 PM
He hit hard but i would say people like Foreman, Shavers, Tyson, Lewis and Frazier hit harder.

JAB5239
09-02-2008, 10:09 PM
He hit hard but i would say people like Foreman, Shavers, Tyson, Lewis and Frazier hit harder.

Add Joe Louis and Sonny Liston to that list.

keepthemhandsup
09-02-2008, 10:52 PM
i think rocky hit's harder than him

ZZZzzz.......
09-02-2008, 11:52 PM
He hit hard but i would say people like Foreman, Shavers, Tyson, Lewis and Frazier hit harder.

Add Joe Louis and Sonny Liston to that list.

willard was a big ass dude, and dempsey was skinny dude.

Brunswick Assassin
09-03-2008, 01:24 AM
His close quarters punching and hooks in particular were 'Devastating'! His hands were made of bricks.

JAB5239
09-03-2008, 02:04 AM
willard was a big ass dude, and dempsey was skinny dude.

Believe me, Im not saying Dempsey couldn't crack. The guy was devastating. Especially for his size as you've pointed of my friend. But I think this guys are harder punchers than him. P4p, maybe not. But overall, in my opinion, yes. That is no knock on Dempsey.

The Iron Man
09-03-2008, 07:59 AM
True How could i forget liston and louis. And yeh possibly Marciano

Southpaw Stinger
09-03-2008, 08:19 AM
No he was more explosive than strong. Foreman and Liston were strong punchers.

But Jack along with Tyson must be one of the most explosive ever.

poet682006
09-03-2008, 10:25 AM
No he was more explosive than strong. Foreman and Liston were strong punchers.

But Jack along with Tyson must be one of the most explosive ever.

Good point! Dempsey was a strong puncher but not one-punch KO power: Maybe the next level down from that though.

Poet

ZZZzzz.......
09-03-2008, 10:45 AM
Believe me, Im not saying Dempsey couldn't crack. The guy was devastating. Especially for his size as you've pointed of my friend. But I think this guys are harder punchers than him. P4p, maybe not. But overall, in my opinion, yes. That is no knock on Dempsey.

i agree......

randy johnson
09-03-2008, 02:01 PM
You know Tye Fields has a high knockout percentage too right? You know why he has a high ko percentage? Because he fights bums just like Jack Dempsey did. Fighters of that era also wore smaller gloves so that equals more knock downs and knock outs. I also heard Dempsey used to put plaster on his gloves and since none of us were born back then we don't know if he did or not.

Dempsey also never fought a black fighter in his life. Imagine how high alot of black or even other white fighters knock out percentage would of been if they would of avoided fighting black fighters. Do you see any white fighters who would of beat Foreman,Ali,Frazier or Holmes in the 70's? Do you think Tyson would of lost to any white fighter in the 80's? It is like now if black fighters at middleweight would of avoided fighting the best white fighters. Fighter like Pavlik and Abraham who are clearly superior to any black middleweight at the this time. To be great you have to fight all races not just one race like Dempsey did.

JAB5239
09-03-2008, 03:10 PM
You know Tye Fields has a high knockout percentage too right? You know why he has a high ko percentage? Because he fights bums just like Jack Dempsey did. Fighters of that era also wore smaller gloves so that equals more knock downs and knock outs. I also heard Dempsey used to put plaster on his gloves and since none of us were born back then we don't know if he did or not.

Dempsey also never fought a black fighter in his life. Imagine how high alot of black or even other white fighters knock out percentage would of been if they would of avoided fighting black fighters. Do you see any white fighters who would of beat Foreman,Ali,Frazier or Holmes in the 70's? Do you think Tyson would of lost to any white fighter in the 80's? It is like now if black fighters at middleweight would of avoided fighting the best white fighters. Fighter like Pavlik and Abraham who are clearly superior to any black middleweight at the this time. To be great you have to fight all races not just one race like Dempsey did.

I swear, the more you open your mouth the deeper in you stick your foot. You really need to do a LOT more research, and quit with the stereo types.

marciano1952
09-04-2008, 02:30 PM
You know Tye Fields has a high knockout percentage too right? You know why he has a high ko percentage? Because he fights bums just like Jack Dempsey did. Fighters of that era also wore smaller gloves so that equals more knock downs and knock outs. I also heard Dempsey used to put plaster on his gloves and since none of us were born back then we don't know if he did or not.

Dempsey also never fought a black fighter in his life. Imagine how high alot of black or even other white fighters knock out percentage would of been if they would of avoided fighting black fighters. Do you see any white fighters who would of beat Foreman,Ali,Frazier or Holmes in the 70's? Do you think Tyson would of lost to any white fighter in the 80's? It is like now if black fighters at middleweight would of avoided fighting the best white fighters. Fighter like Pavlik and Abraham who are clearly superior to any black middleweight at the this time. To be great you have to fight all races not just one race like Dempsey did.


dumbass............

j
09-04-2008, 11:51 PM
eplosiveness is maybe one of the most important things in a punch.

dempsey, p4p, is way up there in boxing.

i have met guy who i would say are more explosive for sure - because it is a focus of ours.

foreman, he hit hard because, when younger, he was a bit quicker but really had weight behind it.

2 different kinds of punchers. both can **** u up. but only one can make anybody, even a smaller guy, a dangerous puncher. and that is the explosive way of punching.

championship fighting is a bible to punching.

sugarshanenas
09-05-2008, 06:03 PM
i thought it said "did jack dempsey have the feet to be fleetfooted"

cptroyce
09-05-2008, 06:27 PM
From my post "When I met Jack Dempsey"..

>> ..I recall shaking his hand and thinking it was about as large as my head; the knuckles looking like the knots on a tree trunk.<<

That's my opinion!

Regards,
Royce

black.ink
09-08-2008, 03:38 PM
Dempsey had an aggresive style to his punches through courage and speed enabling him to power through his target almost at will. That being said, he did not have the strongest punches ever, but for his size the power was frightening.

Dempsey's promoter Tex Rickard who also promoted Jeffries and Johnson said Jeffries was the hardest hitter he had ever seen. He stated that if Dempsey and Jeffries had met, the 'Boilermaker' would have knocked Dempsey out. Rickard also said a prime Jeffries could have beat Jack Johnson although Jeffries has said himself ''i could never have whipped Johnson at my best. I couldn't have beaten him in a thousand years''.

Dempsey himself declared Sam Langford as the hardest puncher he had seen, partly the reason he avoided him. He said Langford was the best fighter he had ever seen, and he didn't have the experience to fight a man like him. If Dempsey himself admitted another man to have the hardest punches, i don't think it's rightful to declare him to the title.

Like i said, his power for his size was frightening, but keep in mind that Langford started as a Lightweight, yet carried brutal power to be a force at Heavyweight.

JAB5239
09-08-2008, 03:55 PM
Dempsey had an aggresive style to his punches through courage and speed enabling him to power through his target almost at will. That being said, he did not have the strongest punches ever, but for his size the power was frightening.

Dempsey's promoter Tex Rickard who also promoted Jeffries and Johnson said Jeffries was the hardest hitter he had ever seen. He stated that if Dempsey and Jeffries had met, the 'Boilermaker' would have knocked Dempsey out. Rickard also said a prime Jeffries could have beat Jack Johnson although Jeffries has said himself ''i could never have whipped Johnson at my best. I couldn't have beaten him in a thousand years''.

Dempsey himself declared Sam Langford as the hardest puncher he had seen, partly the reason he avoided him. He said Langford was the best fighter he had ever seen, and he didn't have the experience to fight a man like him. If Dempsey himself admitted another man to have the hardest punches, i don't think it's rightful to declare him to the title.

Like i said, his power for his size was frightening, but keep in mind that Langford started as a Lightweight, yet carried brutal power to be a force at Heavyweight.

Good post!!

Viktor777
09-08-2008, 06:49 PM
Dempsey was the greatest fight ever, in the history of man kind.

wildmanmoon
09-09-2008, 04:57 AM
Jack Dempsey was very rugged for his era. He hit pretty hard but it was more an accumulation of punches that wore down his opponents. At 6' -190 lbs. he wouldn't be very competitive with this era's heavyweights, who are considered small at under 220 lbs. He might be competitive in the Cruiserweights. Mike Tyson would probably knock him out in less than one round.

JAB5239
09-09-2008, 05:14 AM
Jack Dempsey was very rugged for his era. He hit pretty hard but it was more an accumulation of punches that wore down his opponents. At 6' -190 lbs. he wouldn't be very competitive with this era's heavyweights, who are considered small at under 220 lbs. He might be competitive in the Cruiserweights. Mike Tyson would probably knock him out in less than one round.

Jack Dempsey was one of Tysons hero's who he patented his style of fighting from. Dempsey was Tyson before Tyson was Tyson...so to speak.

black.ink
09-09-2008, 03:19 PM
To Wildmanmoon, Dempsey battered Jess Willard into a bloody mess. Willard was an era's great and weighed nearly 250lbs. He also beat Firpo (around 220lbs) and many more. What makes you think he cannot compete with todays era of Heavyweights?

black.ink
09-09-2008, 03:22 PM
Also, your thoughts on Tyson disposing Dempsey in one round are laughable. I think you are underrating Dempsey a little.

Tyson never fought anybody with Dempsey's power, especially delivered in such an aggressive and ruthless manner much like Tyson himself. There is no doubt there would be a knockout in the fantasy match-up, but in favour of who i am not so sure about.

cptroyce
09-09-2008, 06:33 PM
Black.Ink - Terrific posts!

Alexis Vastine
09-16-2008, 06:31 PM
All the quotes were from one victim. hardly objective! Dempsey was a hard hitter, and I would say one of the hardest hitters. not the hardest though.