View Full Version : Training in the old days. With PICS (Jack Johnson, Benny Leonard, Battling Nelson etc


BattlingNelson
09-01-2008, 04:36 PM
I found these interesting pics on the internet along with instructions. It shows boxers training regimens and how they prepared for battle at the last turn of a century.

http://www.motion-online.dk/images/2004/box_chopping.jpg
Woodchopping. An all-time classic. The boxer in the pic is unknown, but this exercise was especially useful for the back and spine.

http://www.motion-online.dk/images/2004/box_carry.jpg
Treecarrying. The pic shows HW champ Jack Johnson carrying a piece of oak-tree. This was considered phenomenal training especially when carried up-hill. It was highly recommended to change shoulders every now and then.

http://www.motion-online.dk/images/2004/box_carry2.jpg
This is LW champion Ad Wolgast and not some furniture mover. The lifting of heavy objects, the more complicated the better, was considered excellent. The more musclegroups used the better.

http://www.motion-online.dk/images/2004/box_lifting.jpg
Here Battling Nelson works in the woods as well. He's systematically working out on the lumber on this yard.

Continued.....

BattlingNelson
09-01-2008, 04:42 PM
http://www.motion-online.dk/images/2004/box_climbing.jpg
Mountaineering was popular then as it is now. The fighter is unknown. (Could it be Greb?)

http://www.motion-online.dk/images/2004/box_plow.jpg
This is one of the very best all-time-greats Benny Leonard farming the countryside.

http://www.motion-online.dk/images/2004/box_waterpump.jpg
And finally HW legend Jack Dempsey works on the waterpump. Today this exercixe might be called "unilateral ground based upper body core training".

Maybe this thread would be usefull in the training-forum???

JAB5239
09-01-2008, 05:08 PM
Good stuff, Bat. Thanks.

KostyaTszyu44
09-02-2008, 05:16 AM
no wonder fighters were so **** before the 20's

The Iron Man
09-02-2008, 06:20 AM
Rocky Balboa used most of these haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AemCeiuI_k&NR=1

wmute
09-02-2008, 11:27 AM
nice one!!

EDIT: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BatTheMan again.

JAB5239
09-02-2008, 02:26 PM
no wonder fighters were so **** before the 20's

Most of them may not have been as technically profecient, but their stamina (many fights were set for 20 rounds or more) and their toughness (fighting with 2oz to 4oz horse hair gloves, sometimes 3 and 4 times a month) cannot be questioned.

BattlingNelson
09-02-2008, 04:15 PM
Most of them may not have been as technically profecient, but their stamina (many fights were set for 20 rounds or more) and their toughness (fighting with 2oz to 4oz horse hair gloves, sometimes 3 and 4 times a month) cannot be questioned.
That's right. It's always difficult fantasymatching modern fighters with old-timers. It doesn't seem fair to say the old timer's had to prepare the way they did back in the day, while the modern fighters can prepare like the do today. You have to compare the accomplishments and the dominence the had over the contemporarys (spelling).

KostyaTszyu44
09-03-2008, 06:08 AM
Most of them may not have been as technically profecient, but their stamina (many fights were set for 20 rounds or more) and their toughness (fighting with 2oz to 4oz horse hair gloves, sometimes 3 and 4 times a month) cannot be questioned.

oh yeah definitely

they were tough bastards but they were poor technically, i meant **** technique wise, no one in their right mind would question how tough they were

poet682006
09-03-2008, 10:30 AM
I've seen photos of Dempsey working the heavybag as well as other fighters doing roadwork, skipping rope, sparring, ect. IE things fighters do today. Just what do people think current fighters do that the old-timers didn't? Lift weights? I was under the impression that weightlifting still wasn't very common among fighters of today and for a very good reason: It kills your reflexes; something a fighter can ill afford to do. Of course those old-timers didn't take steroids so maybe THAT'S the biggest difference :rofl:

Poet

BattlingNelson
09-03-2008, 02:56 PM
oh yeah definitely

they were tough bastards but they were poor technically, i meant **** technique wise, no one in their right mind would question how tough they were
Like any other sport boxing has evolved. The first solarplexus punch is one of boxinghistorys most famous. It was used by Bob Fitzsimmons in his titlewinning effort against heavyweightchamp Jim Corbett.

Edit: Sidenote: Fitz weighed only 167 according to boxrec.

McGoorty
09-12-2011, 02:48 PM
http://www.motion-online.dk/images/2004/box_climbing.jpg
Mountaineering was popular then as it is now. The fighter is unknown. (Could it be Greb?)

http://www.motion-online.dk/images/2004/box_plow.jpg
This is one of the very best all-time-greats Benny Leonard farming the countryside.

http://www.motion-online.dk/images/2004/box_waterpump.jpg
And finally HW legend Jack Dempsey works on the waterpump. Today this exercixe might be called "unilateral ground based upper body core training".

Maybe this thread would be usefull in the training-forum???
Not to mention all those photo's of Les Darcy at work in the blacksmiths shop and as a farrier........ Great photo's mate,,,.. a great idea for a thread.

BattlingNelson
09-12-2011, 03:04 PM
Not to mention all those photo's of Les Darcy at work in the blacksmiths shop and as a farrier........ Great photo's mate,,,.. a great idea for a thread.
Lol that was an old thread Mc.

The pics was taken from an old danish exercise book.

What's that with Les Darcy?

McGoorty
09-12-2011, 03:16 PM
Lol that was an old thread Mc.

The pics was taken from an old danish exercise book.

What's that with Les Darcy?
Oh, there are a series of Darcy photo's with him on the job,..... nothing fake about them though,.... Darcy was a real blacksmith,.... and in those days blacksmiths doubled as farriers... some still do........ The photo's of Darcy at the anvil have a purpose..... It really shows what made him such an incredible physical specimen, and he looks at home in it....... It's threads like these that really get me going. I'll try to get the photo's up here but I have run out of space in my albums.... it seems that if I take photo's out of my album, those photo's that I post seem to dissappear.

BattlingNelson
09-13-2011, 02:39 PM
Oh, there are a series of Darcy photo's with him on the job,..... nothing fake about them though,.... Darcy was a real blacksmith,.... and in those days blacksmiths doubled as farriers... some still do........ The photo's of Darcy at the anvil have a purpose..... It really shows what made him such an incredible physical specimen, and he looks at home in it....... It's threads like these that really get me going. I'll try to get the photo's up here but I have run out of space in my albums.... it seems that if I take photo's out of my album, those photo's that I post seem to dissappear.
I cannot find those anvil shots in your albums Mc?

McGoorty
09-13-2011, 03:21 PM
I cannot find those anvil shots in your albums Mc?
Not yet...... I only have two spaces left in my albums.... But as soon as I scan them off the book and when I can work out how to put them into one picture....... Great photo's... there may be a site somewhere with those photo's if I google right....... I will be getting a scanner soon................... I'll keep you posted......... I'll start posting Darcy photo's in my Darcy Book Thread........ Have you been reading that thread, I would think you a prime candidate for doing that...... it wears my fingers out that thread does.

BattlingNelson
09-13-2011, 03:36 PM
Not yet...... I only have two spaces left in my albums.... But as soon as I scan them off the book and when I can work out how to put them into one picture....... Great photo's... there may be a site somewhere with those photo's if I google right....... I will be getting a scanner soon................... I'll keep you posted......... I'll start posting Darcy photo's in my Darcy Book Thread........ Have you been reading that thread, I would think you a prime candidate for doing that...... it wears my fingers out that thread does.
I havent been active in this section lately, so no. I havent read it. I'll check it out.

McGoorty
09-13-2011, 03:47 PM
I havent been active in this section lately, so no. I havent read it. I'll check it out.
I'd be proud if you did, it's about only 1 5th completed but there's at least 20 of his fights described so far about 30 fights left to post plus his trip to America..... please post a reply when you get through it....... and Every filmed fight is on there... here's the link.. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=497729

McGoorty
09-19-2011, 11:37 AM
I cannot find those anvil shots in your albums Mc?
Here's one for you Bat. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1179&pictureid=10171