View Full Version : Mayorga - De La Hoya took a dive


nezahualcoyotl
09-23-2004, 07:44 PM
Hey any of you guys out there still pondering that "liver punch", here's Ricardo "El Matador" Mayorga's comments on De La Hoya getting "knocked out".

FINALLY! someone with the balls to tell it like it is!!!

VIVA MAYORGA! - even though I think he's going to lose lol - at least he'll give us our monies worth unlike those other 2 chumps last saturday.

PEACE!

WillieW
09-23-2004, 07:48 PM
I wouldn't say Oscar took a dive in the sense that he gave Hopkins the win. I think it was more the case that Oscar used that liver shot to get out of a hopeless situation. He we just outclassed and sized in that fight, and he realized it.

{BrownBomber}
09-23-2004, 08:10 PM
I Agree Delahoya Was Smart In Taking The Dive. I Guess He Saved Himself An Embarassing Beating In The Later Rounds. :d

Sir_Jose
09-23-2004, 08:15 PM
Since when does Ricardo Mayorga's opinion matter? The guy is a jackass who will say anything if you put a mic in his face.

I hate all these people talking **** about DLH when its obvious they have never stepped foot in a ring and dont know what its like to actually get hit with a body shot.

Go watch fight like

Roy Jones vs Virgil Hill
Gatti vs Dorrin
Tapia vs Soto
and Chavez, Micky Ward or early Shane Mosley fight. All three have had fights were they stopped guys on body shots.

BODY SHOTS HURT LIKE A MOTHER****ER AND TAKE YOUR LEGS OUT

AJ53
09-23-2004, 08:32 PM
Since when does Ricardo Mayorga's opinion matter? The guy is a jackass who will say anything if you put a mic in his face.

I hate all these people talking **** about DLH when its obvious they have never stepped foot in a ring and dont know what its like to actually get hit with a body shot.

Go watch fight like

Roy Jones vs Virgil Hill
Gatti vs Dorrin
Tapia vs Soto
and Chavez, Micky Ward or early Shane Mosley fight. All three have had fights were they stopped guys on body shots.

BODY SHOTS HURT LIKE A MOTHER****ER AND TAKE YOUR LEGS OUT
i agree totally having boxed myself sometimes the hardest punches arent the one's that smack you on the chin, they are the punches that you don't expect to hit you.
the body is also the hardest place for any boxer to toughthen up.
look at dorrin he's a world class fighter but got hit on the button, he was never getting up and nobody expected him to.
but with de la hoya even de la hoya thought it would'nt happen but when it did.............. goodnight.
you've got to understand that when you can't breave you can't think, and when the ten seconds are over it's too late to think.

nezahualcoyotl
09-23-2004, 08:37 PM
I Agree Delahoya Was Smart In Taking The Dive. I Guess He Saved Himself An Embarassing Beating In The Later Rounds. :d

DAMN!
**** Mayorga & DLH, what about them 2 blondes on your avatar!
GOD DAMN! :eek:

bigdlb12
09-23-2004, 10:40 PM
a limousine named Tito, lol

abdiel2k3
09-23-2004, 10:54 PM
and cuz mayorgas sucha knowledgable veteran huh
i mean the way he was able to figure out spinks
this guys a bumb
does he not relize hes facen oscars same situation
in tito
poor bastered will understand once tito KOs his ass

WillieW
09-23-2004, 10:59 PM
i agree totally having boxed myself sometimes the hardest punches arent the one's that smack you on the chin, they are the punches that you don't expect to hit you.
the body is also the hardest place for any boxer to toughthen up.
look at dorrin he's a world class fighter but got hit on the button, he was never getting up and nobody expected him to.
but with de la hoya even de la hoya thought it would'nt happen but when it did.............. goodnight.
you've got to understand that when you can't breave you can't think, and when the ten seconds are over it's too late to think.

I totally agree and I have felt the paralizing affect of the dreaded liver shot.....but

The shot that took out DLH didn't really seem that hard. When I think of the type of body shot that takes people out, I think of the crushing full force zingers that Mickey Ward would throw, or the shot that took out Dorin. I see shots like that and I say to myself "that guy isn't getting up", but the B-Hop shot didn't really look that hard to me. With that said, I didn't feel it and there isn't any real way to guess how hard it really was, so its all speculation.

abdiel2k3
09-23-2004, 11:03 PM
did we not know oscar was gonna be out powered here?
so understand that in order for hopkins to hurt him it didnt have to be a HIS strongest shot
just strong enough to hurt oscar which it did
the punch itself didnt land clean and beautful
but ur focusing on the wrong things
first he didnt see the punch comin at all
if anythin he was braced for a right
second hopkins jumped in with all his weight
thats why it hurt
he leaps in and just stabs him with it
it was like a prision shank
wonder where he learned that?

teakay
09-23-2004, 11:37 PM
Looking at the fight againt, you can see Hopkins lands a really hard left to the body a few seconds before he landed that last body shot. I am starting to think that it was the first body shot that did really did the damage.

Here take a look:

Click Here (http://soc.byuh.edu/da032/delahoyax.rm)

nezahualcoyotl
09-24-2004, 12:52 AM
hey bro" did u see de la hoya on the mexican channels?

*in a squeaky voice* "he hit me very hard, i wanted to get up for the mexican people, but it hurt i couldn't get up" waw waw waw LOL

What a ***** :P... he gots no respect from the brown side homie hehee
peace!

Sir_Jose
09-24-2004, 01:34 AM
hey bro" did u see de la hoya on the mexican channels?

*in a squeaky voice* "he hit me very hard, i wanted to get up for the mexican people, but it hurt i couldn't get up" waw waw waw LOL

What a ***** :P... he gots no respect from the brown side homie hehee
peace!

just plain stupid

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
09-24-2004, 06:23 AM
I wouldn't say Oscar took a dive in the sense that he gave Hopkins the win. I think it was more the case that Oscar used that liver shot to get out of a hopeless situation. He we just outclassed and sized in that fight, and he realized it.

I agree.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
09-24-2004, 06:24 AM
hey bro" did u see de la hoya on the mexican channels?

*in a squeaky voice* "he hit me very hard, i wanted to get up for the mexican people, but it hurt i couldn't get up" waw waw waw LOL

What a ***** :P... he gots no respect from the brown side homie hehee
peace!

Ahh thats where went wrong... he should tried to get up for the puerto rican people thats who he dedicated the fight to. HAHA!

Atman
09-24-2004, 06:42 PM
I totally agree and I have felt the paralizing affect of the dreaded liver shot.....but

The shot that took out DLH didn't really seem that hard. When I think of the type of body shot that takes people out, I think of the crushing full force zingers that Mickey Ward would throw, or the shot that took out Dorin. I see shots like that and I say to myself "that guy isn't getting up", but the B-Hop shot didn't really look that hard to me. With that said, I didn't feel it and there isn't any real way to guess how hard it really was, so its all speculation.

Robert Allen, who has a light heavyweight build, was hurt with an identical punch. It's effectiveness lies in how sneaky and unexpected it is, not how hard it's thrown. Hopkins opponents are always on the look out for right hands so I imagine when he feints with the right and throws a left hook to the liver instead, it's a painful experience.

NichtGeflechten
09-24-2004, 08:59 PM
DLH took the nearest emergency exit and don't delude yourself about it. It was Hollywood all the way. :cool:

Hurlex
09-25-2004, 02:01 AM
i love hearing the hbo crew like that..they didnt want there boy dlh to lose..no on there wanted nard to win...did u hear out unexcited they were about ko..but if it would have been dlh who maybe even KD hopkins..they would have came on the selfs with excitment..so thats what i loved.


mayorga is weird..he said he respect oscar..but think he took a dive???

well whatever..who cares about this anymore..we have jones/glen...tito/mayorga..mitchell/kosta...mab/morrales all coming up in next 3 months

its a great time to be a boxing fan

Palma
09-25-2004, 11:36 AM
Man, Everyone is a conspirocy theorist.

Cleary23
09-25-2004, 12:52 PM
De La Hoya did not take a dive and ne body who thinkls that is as stupid as Mayorga.

I hope soo bad that Mayorga loses to TITo in the worst way. I ****in hate Mayorga soo bad. I want to see his face when he loses too.

teakay
09-25-2004, 05:40 PM
De La Hoya did not take a dive and ne body who thinkls that is as stupid as Mayorga.

I hope soo bad that Mayorga loses to TITo in the worst way. I ****in hate Mayorga soo bad. I want to see his face when he loses too.

And you must be the hooker Mayorga didn't want to pay.

FrankJack
09-25-2004, 05:42 PM
"VIVA MAYORGA! - even though I think he's going to lose lol - at least he'll give us our monies worth unlike those other 2 chumps last saturday."


This doesn't seem to say anything about a dive to me....Well, either way, whether or not Oscar quit, he was gettin roughed up anyway. LOL, that was funny though when Oscar didn't get up and the audience wasn't even cheerin, I did love that. Nobody really likes Bernard, which is why I like im, other than the fact I like how he fights.

nezahualcoyotl
09-25-2004, 06:45 PM
HAHAHAH - I didn't even realize that the audience didn't clap when he got up...when I watch the replay I"ll make note of that.

That proves the audience believes he was faking the knockdown and he could've got up...****in ***** de la hoya lol. peace brothers.

teakay
09-25-2004, 07:41 PM
I think the reason the audience didn't clap was because they where DLH fans. And they didn't really see how he got hurt.
They just saw him drop and where like "what the **** happened"

NichtGeflechten
09-25-2004, 08:41 PM
Nah....they didn't clap because they were waiting for DelaHollywood to take his stage bows. Stinkissimo!

marvdave
09-25-2004, 08:51 PM
DLH didn't take a dive. He got hit by a shot harder than he had ever been hit in the body. It was a perfect shot that hit him in a soft spot. He is not a middleweight and Hopkins was born 160. I think Oscar was probably a combo of hurt,confused and in a place he had never been in before. Oscar fought well, but was obviously out of class. Give him credit for stepping up when so many others won't.

NichtGeflechten
09-25-2004, 09:06 PM
DelaHollywood should have pulled out a feather duster and cleaned the spot where he was going to lay down, perhaps a nice buckwheat hull pillow to gently support his weary yet noble head as well.

nezahualcoyotl
09-25-2004, 09:16 PM
Yes indeed the replay is almost on my friendz...I'm recording the fight this time.

AND REMEMBER: WATCH WHAT DE LA HOYA DOES AS HE WALKS OUT OF THE RING WITH HIS T-SHIRT ON.

LATER!

marvdave
09-25-2004, 09:16 PM
DelaHollywood should have pulled out a feather duster and cleaned the spot where he was going to lay down, perhaps a nice buckwheat hull pillow to gently support his weary yet noble head as well.


"buckwheat hull pillow?" that's funny..lol

Kball15
06-12-2006, 06:09 PM
Hey any of you guys out there still pondering that "liver punch", here's Ricardo "El Matador" Mayorga's comments on De La Hoya getting "knocked out".

FINALLY! someone with the balls to tell it like it is!!!

VIVA MAYORGA! - even though I think he's going to lose lol - at least he'll give us our monies worth unlike those other 2 chumps last saturday.

PEACE!

HAHAHA. lol.

Mayorga lost to DLH retard!!!!!


am i a little late on this topic???

Built 2 Last
06-12-2006, 07:33 PM
Since when does Ricardo Mayorga's opinion matter? The guy is a jackass who will say anything if you put a mic in his face.

I hate all these people talking **** about DLH when its obvious they have never stepped foot in a ring and dont know what its like to actually get hit with a body shot.

Go watch fight like

Roy Jones vs Virgil Hill
Gatti vs Dorrin
Tapia vs Soto
and Chavez, Micky Ward or early Shane Mosley fight. All three have had fights were they stopped guys on body shots.

BODY SHOTS HURT LIKE A MOTHER****ER AND TAKE YOUR LEGS OUT

^^ or even mayweather vs mitchell

Kball15
06-12-2006, 09:16 PM
yea, i definetly dont think he threw the fight. body shots like that end fights all the time, like that one undercard fight to the juarez barrera fight!

yrrej
06-12-2006, 09:53 PM
Let Hopkins punch you in the liver, then say DLH took a dive....