Similar styles both with great power and chins, who wins this war? I see it as very similar to the Foreman-Lyle fight, although I can't decide at the moment who I think would win.

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Max Baer

Height = 6-2½
Weight = 209½
Reach = 81
Chest/Norm. = 44
Chest/Exp. = 47½
Waist = 32½
Biceps = 14½
Neck = 17½
Wrist = 8
Calf = 15
Ankle = 9½
Thigh = 21
Fist = 12
Forearm = 14

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George Foreman

Height = 6-3
Weight = 217¾
Reach = 82
Chest/Norm. = 42
Chest/Exp. = 44½
Waist = 34
Biceps = 15
Neck = 17
Wrist = 7½
Calf = 17
Ankle = 9½
Thigh = 25
Fist = 12
Forearm = 13½

*Measurements courtesy of IBHOF

Foreman by KO !

Let me see the glass chin Joe Louis knocked out Baer so why wouldn't the bigger stronger and more powerful George Foreman not be able to knock him out? Foreman destroys Baer in 1 round.

Foreman by KO.

I feel Baer is being underrated here. 10/10 votes are all for Foreman by knockout. Baer had one of the hardest right hands in history, along with one of the best chins. Like Foreman, he tended to throw wide looping shots and leave himself open which Louis was able to take advantage of. Foreman wouldn't counter punch Baer which would make for an interesting fight. Max had tendency to not take some fights seriously (such as the Braddock fight), but a motivated and focused Baer is extremely dangerous, especially toe-to-toe like Foreman would fight him.

Foreman would **** him up, Baer is a bum with no skills.

Foreman's Prime weight is about 220-224 not 217. He's also 6' 3 1/2, It seems like Foreman size was toned down to make the size difference less.

The differences are marginal at best, and toned down? By whom?
They are still similar in size, with Foreman having the edge but not to a ridiculous amount.
And Baer a bum with no skills? Thats because he fought before the 1960's right? And what skills would Foreman show in this fight that Max wouldnt? Exactly.

The differences are marginal at best, and toned down? By whom?
They are still similar in size, with Foreman having the edge but not to a ridiculous amount.
And Baer a bum with no skills? Thats because he fought before the 1960's right? And what skills would Foreman show in this fight that Max wouldnt? Exactly.


How can you tell me Baer has skills, honestly. Even with out my notorious comment you quoted..he still has no skills.

Foreman's even got more skills than him. Tell me who Baer fought that is comparable to Foreman. Foreman destroyed Prime greats in 2 rounds.

How can you tell me Baer has skills, honestly. Even with out my notorious comment you quoted..he still has no skills.

Foreman's even got more skills than him. Tell me who Baer fought that is comparable to Foreman. Foreman destroyed Prime greats in 2 rounds.

Foreman fought and beat the better comp, but skills aren't much of an issue in this fight. This would be a slugging match.

Foreman fought and beat the better comp, but skills aren't much of an issue in this fight. This would be a slugging match.

How can you see Baer getting past round 1? he had horrible defense, one uppercut from Foreman and his legs would be gone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk-7ic9OCKY

We are talking about the same guy aren't we?

How can you see Baer getting past round 1? he had horrible defense, one uppercut from Foreman and his legs would be gone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk-7ic9OCKY

We are talking about the same guy aren't we?


All I see is highlights of Baer joking and dancing around Primo before knocking him out; where is the bad defense exactly? You could have at least posted Baer getting tagged or something.

And Foreman's best weight was listed around 217 because that was when he destroyed Frazier to win the Title in his biggest and most impressive win. This isn't rocket science. To be fair they picked Baer's weight when he beat Primo. If they wanted to pull one over on somebody they would have just listed Baer's heaviest weight at 226. Size wouldn't be a factor in this fight.

All I see is highlights of Baer joking and dancing around Primo before knocking him out; where is the bad defense exactly? You could have at least posted Baer getting tagged or something.

And Foreman's best weight was listed around 217 because that was when he destroyed Frazier to win the Title in his biggest and most impressive win. This isn't rocket science. To be fair they picked Baer's weight when he beat Primo. If they wanted to pull one over on somebody they would have just listed Baer's heaviest weight at 226. Size wouldn't be a factor in this fight.

fights with Norton, Ali, Lyle and Frazier 2 were all at 220+ Foreman was green when he fought Frazier the first time. No it isn't rocket science.

I will agree size wouldn't be a factor, but strength would be. I've never been impressed by anything Baer has done in the ring in comparison to Foreman.

I guess that's just me though. I still say Foreman KO 1-2.

fights with Norton, Ali, Lyle and Frazier 2 were all at 220+ Foreman was green when he fought Frazier the first time. No it isn't rocket science.

I will agree size wouldn't be a factor, but strength would be. I've never been impressed by anything Baer has done in the ring in comparison to Foreman.

I guess that's just me though. I still say Foreman KO 1-2.

The "green thing" makes no sense. Foreman's first career peaked with the Frazier win and declined after the Ali loss.

Yeah, outside of the Norton massacre he was 220+ for two shocking defeats, a sloppy brawl in which he was dropped several times, and a not so impressive repeat win.

Or you could go with the weight where he won the title in awe inspiring fashion from Ali's recent conqueror, stopped the well regarded Kirkman in 1, and had one of his best round for round performances in the Peralta rematch. It is obvious why the Hall of Fame inducted his stats at the 217 weight, not sure what the problem is. Would the 220 Foreman who fought Ali be that much bigger of a difference? Besides Big George didn't get any better than the first Frazier fight, if you had to go with one weight it would be that one.

Thunder Lips so you are telling me that Foreman sucked up until the first Frazier fight then after the Ali fight he went back to sucking? No hall of famer career peaks after just one fight. After Foreman lost to Ali he knocked out 5 more pretty good fighters. If you want to talk about peaking then when did he "peak" He never beat another world class hall of fame fighter period. His best wins came against joke fighters. Even his knockout power was overrated. Look at who he fought and compare it too who Foreman fought and Foreman still has a higher knock out percentage.

I can't imagine some unskilled fighter like Baer making it past 2 rounds with any version of Foreman.

I have only seen Baer v Braddock and some other highlights of Baer so I may be commenting with limited knowledge but from what I have seen Baer just wouldn't be able to hang with George. Foreman would have blown out a lot of top contenders from any era. I would go with a Foreman KO in rounds 3-6.

Thunder Lips so you are telling me that Foreman sucked up until the first Frazier fight then after the Ali fight he went back to sucking?


Yes, he sucked off everyone before Frazier. He just gave him, Roman, Norton, and Ali handjobs.

Are you really this desperate for my attention? This is really your best attempt at an argument? ****ing pathetic, nobody could possibly read that crap into my comments. Frazier was Foreman's best win period with Norton being a distant runner up; tough and pointless to argue anything else.

I have only seen Baer v Braddock and some other highlights of Baer so I may be commenting with limited knowledge but from what I have seen Baer just wouldn't be able to hang with George. Foreman would have blown out a lot of top contenders from any era. I would go with a Foreman KO in rounds 3-6.

Most likely.

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Foreman against a tough, competitive Scott LeDoux

I could see it going like the above fight, with both landing their share of punches and at the end Baer would be taking too much punishment forcing the referee to stop the fight.

Baer was no defensive artist (neither was Foreman), he mostly slugged and got away with it because of his chin and power.
Max never took boxing all that seriously, there were only a few occasions that he displayed anything near his best.

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He was good at landing his big right but he also left himself completely open while doing so.

Baer was mainly just a right hand puncher. Foreman had a left and a right and was the better fighter. So I'll go with George by early to mid KO.