View Full Version : Which fighter do you try to copy?


hinduw
08-25-2008, 08:20 AM
Everyone tries to copy a certain fighter while sparring, so which fighters style is your favourite one?

sukhenkoy
08-25-2008, 08:32 AM
Myself....:rofl:

markeeta
08-25-2008, 08:52 AM
Everyone tries to copy a certain fighter while sparring, so which fighters style is your favourite one?

Laszlo Papp

PunchDrunk
08-25-2008, 09:12 AM
Copying a fighters style is not necessarily a smart thing to do. Especially if you're amateur (which most, if not all, fighters in here are), trying to fight like a pro. This will not make you succesful as an amateur, and regardless of the fact that most of you would like to turn pro, a good amateur career is a much better springboard for doing so, than one where you've lost most of your fights as an am because you thought you were a pro. Focus on what you need to do to win your next fight, take it one step at a time, and good things will happen.

markeeta
08-25-2008, 09:24 AM
Copying a fighters style is not necessarily a smart thing to do. Especially if you're amateur (which most, if not all, fighters in here are), trying to fight like a pro. This will not make you succesful as an amateur, and regardless of the fact that most of you would like to turn pro, a good amateur career is a much better springboard for doing so, than one where you've lost most of your fights as an am because you thought you were a pro. Focus on what you need to do to win your next fight, take it one step at a time, and good things will happen.

I agree.. that's why I said Laszlo. I just want good solid basics. I can change my style later.

Tyson123
08-25-2008, 09:47 AM
I fight the way my trainer would tell me.

eman-resu
08-25-2008, 10:35 AM
I rather like Pavlik, can't go wrong with volume, power and huge stamina.

kryo
08-25-2008, 11:09 AM
Everyone tries to copy a certain fighter while sparring, so which fighters style is your favourite one?

This is exactly why you have no idea how to box.

"my hands are low becuz im a brawler naturally"

No, you're not. You're trainers just don't seem to care enough about you to tell you to bring your hands up to your face.

hinduw
08-25-2008, 11:14 AM
This is exactly why you have no idea how to box.

"my hands are low becuz im a brawler naturally"

No, you're not. You're trainers just don't seem to care enough about you to tell you to bring your hands up to your face.

yeah but the hinduw of youtube is not me....

just stick to the subject

RonRoss
08-25-2008, 11:17 AM
I don't really copy any style, But i do think my posture is like Kostya Tszyu, Stood upright with my gloves up throwing basic combination's, Mainly stright punches.

My right hand and right uppercut are my danger punches.

kryo
08-25-2008, 11:17 AM
yeah but the hinduw of youtube is not me....

just stick to the subject

Yes, it is you.

And to stick to the subject, everyone tries to fight like there favorite fighter.. there first week at the gym. By the second week, your trainer should be breaking your ass down to the principles of boxing, not allowing you to hit the heavy bag with your hands down because you think boxing like Hatton is COOL.

You really don't know what your doing.

hinduw
08-25-2008, 11:20 AM
Yes, it is you.

And to stick to the subject, everyone tries to fight like there favorite fighter.. there first week at the gym. By the second week, your trainer should be breaking your ass down to the principles of boxing, not allowing you to hit the heavy bag with your hands down because you think boxing like Hatton is COOL.

You really don't know what your doing.

im not going to have this argument with you, you can believe what ever you want.

Flawless
08-25-2008, 11:22 AM
Roy Jones Jr or Mayweather Jr

THE REED™
08-25-2008, 11:26 AM
clottey is a good solid way to box... good defense

Oriachim
08-25-2008, 12:17 PM
im not going to have this argument with you, you can believe what ever you want.

You make to many errors in othe topics, you said on another movie posted by 'hinduw', "yeah guys if you're gonna flame me do it in you tube", by the same guy called Hinduw off youtube. You gotta cover your tracks if you're gonna lie!

Also I respect punchdrunks posts and he gives great advise... Punch where do you live? If you live close to me, I may visit your boxing gym one day.

Zerwas1
08-25-2008, 12:45 PM
Best example would be Felix Sturm, just worse :).
When I'm tired or while moving away I sometimes use the shoulder roll.

peewee1460
08-25-2008, 12:49 PM
i try to mimic jermaine taylors jab and i love using the shoulder roll i'm just not very good at it.

msagrain
08-25-2008, 12:51 PM
I don't really copy any style, But i do think my posture is like Kostya Tszyu, Stood upright with my gloves up throwing basic combination's, Mainly stright punches.

My right hand and right uppercut are my danger punches.

What weight are you?

sugarshanenas
08-25-2008, 01:39 PM
a typical mexican boxer

T.I.P.
08-25-2008, 01:48 PM
I don't really copy any style, But i do think my posture is like Kostya Tszyu, Stood upright with my gloves up throwing basic combination's, Mainly stright punches.

My right hand and right uppercut are my danger punches.

:lol1: The classic european stance. You are Mikkel Kessler not Tszyu.

T.I.P.
08-25-2008, 01:49 PM
Zab Judah. I am fast my left isnt that strong but my right hand is the power one.

mspiegelo
08-25-2008, 02:08 PM
this sounds ridiculous, but i try to fight like muhammad ali because we are of similar builds- tall and lean. his jab ruled and his right hand was money. his punches were long, straight, fast and powerful. also, he was a master of the long range left hook which i like cause i am tall and i like to throw the hook while keeping my distance. he also fights a lot with a high-low hand position (left low, right high) and he does more of a fade (kinda like a slip mixed with a shoulder roll) than a slip when he slips right. and MOST importantly, i emulate his movement.

another guy whose movement i like to watch and try and learn from is casamayor. he is a master and a ring general.

i also like to emulate winky and pavlik for their ridiculously straight punches, and for winky's defense, too.

i try to emulate b-hops footwork and right hand (especially against southpaws)....

i dream of emulating and looking like roy in the ring, but am realistic enough to know that i shouldn't be trying that stuff. that was pure art to watch in the ring though- he's my favorite fighter of all time.

of course i am a long ways off from coming close to these masters of the game, but i am working on it....

PunchDrunk
08-25-2008, 02:23 PM
Another problem with emulating top pro's styles is that people tend to want to be like the really flashy guys, PBF, RJJ, Ali etc.
The thing is, these guys did a lot of things fundamentally wrong, that they could get away with, because they were freakishly talented. When someone who is a mere mortal (which, statistically, you all are) try to emulate them, you end up getting your ass handed to you, because you do not have the talent to be RJJ, PBF, Ali!

mspiegelo
08-25-2008, 02:29 PM
Another problem with emulating top pro's styles is that people tend to want to be like the really flashy guys, PBF, RJJ, Ali etc.
The thing is, these guys did a lot of things fundamentally wrong, that they could get away with, because they were freakishly talented. When someone who is a mere mortal (which, statistically, you all are) try to emulate them, you end up getting your ass handed to you, because you do not have the talent to be RJJ, PBF, Ali!

yea, maybe for the flashy guys, but watching pros is one of the best ways to learn. you can pick up different things from many different people. emulating one guys style may present problems....

PunchDrunk
08-25-2008, 02:44 PM
yea, maybe for the flashy guys, but watching pros is one of the best ways to learn. you can pick up different things from many different people. emulating one guys style may present problems....

The best way to learn is to listen to your coach. Also, emulating the pro's in amateur boxing is not a good idea, and I'm assuming you'd like to win your am fights, so you can get a decent chance for a pro career? No one's gonna hand you a contract if you're 2-39 as an amateur, I'm pretty sure an Olympic medal would be a better starting point. ;)

TheBlackSwifty
08-25-2008, 03:23 PM
Thomas hitham Hearns, I got the style, the reach and the looks

sugarshanenas
08-25-2008, 03:34 PM
Thomas hitham Hearns, I got the style, the reach and the looks



lol :rofl::rofl:

mspiegelo
08-25-2008, 03:39 PM
The best way to learn is to listen to your coach. Also, emulating the pro's in amateur boxing is not a good idea, and I'm assuming you'd like to win your am fights, so you can get a decent chance for a pro career? No one's gonna hand you a contract if you're 2-39 as an amateur, I'm pretty sure an Olympic medal would be a better starting point. ;)

yea... listening to the coach is #1. a pro fighting style is different, but you can still observe fundamentals like footwork by watching pros, like how to slip punches, what punch counters what, proper punching technique etc... strategy would be something different though... obviously a plan like floyd used against zab would not work in the am's where you only have 3 rounds (or 4 open) to win the fight. an olympic medal sounds good... where do i sign up?!?

TheBlackSwifty
08-25-2008, 03:43 PM
lol :rofl::rofl:

You dont see the similarity?
http://www.ibhof.com/hearns2.jpg

mspiegelo
08-25-2008, 04:06 PM
You dont see the similarity?
http://www.ibhof.com/hearns2.jpg

steve farhood+ carrot top = thomas hearns, lol

dfwtx
08-25-2008, 06:36 PM
I'm being trained in a similar style to the Cuban amateurs.

boxingsmash69
08-25-2008, 06:59 PM
I try to emulate Antonio Margarito.



But with my chin, I get knocked down at least once in every sparring session.


Maybe it's time to stick to the textbook basics?

Darkstranger
08-26-2008, 05:19 AM
Copying a fighters style is not necessarily a smart thing to do. Especially if you're amateur (which most, if not all, fighters in here are), trying to fight like a pro. This will not make you succesful as an amateur, and regardless of the fact that most of you would like to turn pro, a good amateur career is a much better springboard for doing so, than one where you've lost most of your fights as an am because you thought you were a pro. Focus on what you need to do to win your next fight, take it one step at a time, and good things will happen.

Well said Punch!

I try to watch alot of top level amateur bouts in the Super Heavyweight division to get a good idea on what I have to do win. Far too many people focus on their favourite pro and try to copy them in sparring. I guess we're all guilty of it when we first start boxing. There was a kid at my club who loved Prince Naseem and tried to box like him. Needless to say he often ended up with a sore nose after sparring.

Equilibrium
08-26-2008, 06:17 AM
Honestly i don't try to emulate any boxer. Anyway, there is no good southpaw heavyweight that i know of.

Flawless
08-26-2008, 07:49 AM
Another problem with emulating top pro's styles is that people tend to want to be like the really flashy guys, PBF, RJJ, Ali etc.
The thing is, these guys did a lot of things fundamentally wrong, that they could get away with, because they were freakishly talented. When someone who is a mere mortal (which, statistically, you all are) try to emulate them, you end up getting your ass handed to you, because you do not have the talent to be RJJ, PBF, Ali!

Like what???

Darkstranger
08-26-2008, 08:36 AM
Like what???


Ali pulled straight back from punches with his hands down. He was a gifted athlete that could get away with it. Try that in a bout and you'll find yourself waking up in a hospital. I even read an article that claimed Ali had no defense in the strictest sense of the word. No boxing coach will ever teach you to defend yourself like Ali did in the ring.

People will always try to be a Tyson, Ali or RJJ, but the truth is you gotta find your own style which is natural to your physical attributes.

No1
08-26-2008, 09:49 AM
Ali pulled straight back from punches with his hands down. He was a gifted athlete that could get away with it. Try that in a bout and you'll find yourself waking up in a hospital. I even read an article that claimed Ali had no defense in the strictest sense of the word. No boxing coach will ever teach you to defend yourself like Ali did in the ring.

People will always try to be a Tyson, Ali or RJJ, but the truth is you gotta find your own style which is natural to your physical attributes.
another great point. lots of people try to copy styles that dnt suit there build, im guilty of it what i used to do was get in close and throw short punches similar to figthers like tyson and cotto. but becuase im tall it wasnt really to effective and i lost my reach & height advantage. now when i spar i stand tall and use long punches similar to kessler and to a certain extent david haye.

twoohands
08-26-2008, 10:10 AM
Another problem with emulating top pro's styles is that people tend to want to be like the really flashy guys, PBF, RJJ, Ali etc.
The thing is, these guys did a lot of things fundamentally wrong, that they could get away with, because they were freakishly talented. When someone who is a mere mortal (which, statistically, you all are) try to emulate them, you end up getting your ass handed to you, because you do not have the talent to be RJJ, PBF, Ali!

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just curious what does pretty boy floyd do fundamentally wrong, he seems pretty much technically perfect and mentally a step ahead to me.

mspiegelo
08-26-2008, 11:09 AM
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just curious what does pretty boy floyd do fundamentally wrong, he seems pretty much technically perfect and mentally a step ahead to me.

yea... even though he can do things that others cant because of his speed (ie potshotting right hand leads), he still executes everything with very efficient, perfect form. if you learn to slip, fade, defend, move, throw punches as perfectly as floyd, you'll be in excellent shape. granted, if you are a little, squat guy with short arms and not a lot of speed, you may want to work on fighting with a different style... also, the fade/roll defense certainly doesn't work for everyone. a high guard a la clottey/winky is often a better fit, or perhaps the high guard/head movement combo of tyson for little guys trying to get in....

Darkstranger
08-26-2008, 11:20 AM
another great point. lots of people try to copy styles that dnt suit there build, im guilty of it what i used to do was get in close and throw short punches similar to figthers like tyson and cotto. but becuase im tall it wasnt really to effective and i lost my reach & height advantage. now when i spar i stand tall and use long punches similar to kessler and to a certain extent david haye.

I hear that bro, I've tried to dance like Ali and gassed, I've tried to shoulder roll like Floyd and got hit with right and after right hand, I've tried to emulate Tyson and lost my physical advantage of long arms lol After a while it just hits you I just gotta train hard and through lots of sparring eventually a style will find me!

Floyd again, is another gifted athlete who makes the shoulder roll work for him. James Toney's another one who seems to just have this natural gift of rolling punches and instantly countering. Check out some of his sparring vids on Youtube, James Toney's shoulder rolls are just rediculous!

potatoes
08-26-2008, 11:41 AM
Everyone tries to copy a certain fighter while sparring, so which fighters style is your favourite one?


Floyd Patterson. I'm a short-ass like him, only shorter!

Well, I should have phrased that in the past tense, as I am no longer boxing due to old age.

Stormin' Norman
08-26-2008, 05:11 PM
george foreman

Stormin' Norman
08-26-2008, 05:16 PM
and the best part about watching Toney spar, Darkstranger, is how he **** talks the entire time...aside from his world class defense

Danny Gunz
08-27-2008, 01:47 AM
none im the best god damn fighter int he world

No1
08-27-2008, 07:24 AM
I hear that bro, I've tried to dance like Ali and gassed, I've tried to shoulder roll like Floyd and got hit with right and after right hand, I've tried to emulate Tyson and lost my physical advantage of long arms lol After a while it just hits you I just gotta train hard and through lots of sparring eventually a style will find me!

Floyd again, is another gifted athlete who makes the shoulder roll work for him. James Toney's another one who seems to just have this natural gift of rolling punches and instantly countering. Check out some of his sparring vids on Youtube, James Toney's shoulder rolls are just rediculous!
yeah toney is quality at the shoulder roll!!
i think being able to use skills like that are down to natural gifts more than anyhting else.
thats the reason i use a basic guard and not these fancy defences lol.

potatoes
08-27-2008, 12:37 PM
yeah toney is quality at the shoulder roll!!
i think being able to use skills like that are down to natural gifts more than anyhting else.
thats the reason i use a basic guard and not these fancy defences lol.


Slipping, rolling, bobbing and weaving are basic boxing skills and are not too difficult to learn. If you can't do them you shouldn't be boxing.

ophqui
08-27-2008, 12:45 PM
well done to everyone who saw how ridiculous this question was. hate for everyone whos like 'err yeah i fight like cotto.' no. you dont.

I fight how i get told to fight. i improve by listening to my trainer and learning through sparring and practice, not by copying what i see on tv.

Hieu
08-27-2008, 02:27 PM
I am copying me. I have a short reach and height. I fight with a peekaboo stance. So...I'm a in-fighter with a granite chin that bobs, weaves and jabs to get inside and attacks with fury.

and no I'm not saying that I'm copying mike tyson.

this is the best style for me. :)

Stormin' Norman
08-27-2008, 03:20 PM
I am copying me. I have a short reach and height. I fight with a peekaboo stance. So...I'm a in-fighter with a granite chin that bobs, weaves and jabs to get inside and attacks with fury.

and no I'm not saying that I'm copying mike tyson.

this is the best style for me. :)

copying ippo makonouchi.

lol

Hieu
08-27-2008, 03:34 PM
copying ippo makonouchi.

lol

LMAO dude I just do what my trainer said to do XD

Talon
08-27-2008, 03:58 PM
if i say you're gonna laugh so no..




























yuriorkis gamboa.. but i usually end up looking like angel manfredy on the ropes vs mayweather

hinduw
08-27-2008, 04:40 PM
if i say you're gonna laugh so no..




























yuriorkis gamboa.. but i usually end up looking like angel manfredy on the ropes vs mayweather


gamboa is great

hinduw
08-27-2008, 04:42 PM
well done to everyone who saw how ridiculous this question was. hate for everyone whos like 'err yeah i fight like cotto.' no. you dont.

I fight how i get told to fight. i improve by listening to my trainer and learning through sparring and practice, not by copying what i see on tv.

yeah but still this thread got over 50 replies and thats the reason why i make threads

Oriachim
08-27-2008, 06:30 PM
Yeah same with me, my trainer was telling me to stop emulating pro fighters to much. (he knew I had some kind of craze for Ricky Hatton) and he told me how he wanted to play, and how he wants me to score.

IBFHvyWtChamp
08-27-2008, 06:51 PM
Mike Tyson

juggernautburn
08-28-2008, 03:18 AM
when i originally started boxing, i didn't really know what style i wanted to use. but i know that due to my structure, some styles are better than others for me. the person with the closest structure to myself in boxing is mike tyson, so i tried to learn his peek a boo style a little bit. let me tell you, it's money for me. i wouldn't use the style if it wasn't the best fit, there just isn't another style for me to use.

BennyST
08-28-2008, 05:54 AM
I think the only thing that should be thought about is "How do I get my defense, offense, footwork, speed, power etc etc to there maximal limits?" You can always take stuff from certain fighters but only in the sense of "Man, Mayweather never gets hit, I need to work on my defense more" and not try and emulate his exact style because it will not work for you. As guys have already said, everyone has different attributes and body types. The more you train to perfect all the main requirements and the more sparring you do, your style will already be there because that is just how you move and fight. Even if you like to think you can fight like Mayweather, you can't.

If you like Tyson but are rather tall and lanky, if you try to emulate him there is a huge chance you are simply going to ruin everything you have going for you. The only thing you can do is train to perfect all boxing skills and make your weaknesses your strengths. You can't change how you move and fight, but you can get better and work on aspects that need to be worked on. Trying to emulate is a bad idea.

Smokin'J
08-28-2008, 07:58 AM
Muhammed Ali from distance dancing around and close up trying like Frazier/Lamotta not backing up and fighting bully style

mspiegelo
08-28-2008, 02:16 PM
Yeah same with me, my trainer was telling me to stop emulating pro fighters to much. (he knew I had some kind of craze for Ricky Hatton) and he told me how he wanted to play, and how he wants me to score.

i want the malignaggi tko bet. wanna go 10k? no way paulie is getting knocked out. if cotto can't do it, fatton can't....

Oriachim
08-28-2008, 02:19 PM
i want the malignaggi tko bet. wanna go 10k? no way paulie is getting knocked out. if cotto can't do it, fatton can't....

piss off mate, hatton isn't unhealthy at that weight and he throws way more body shots/head shots than cotto to. you want a bet? then sign away, i'll sign away when I get back to you. I'm willing to bet 30k. (obviously not all on you).

mspiegelo
08-28-2008, 02:25 PM
piss off mate, hatton isn't unhealthy at that weight and he throws way more body shots/head shots than cotto to. you want a bet? then sign away, i'll sign away when I get back to you. I'm willing to bet 30k. (obviously not all on you).

10k. its on. cheers. lets hope hatton is laying off the guiness...

Hearnsz
08-29-2008, 05:04 PM
Today at sparring I found out some of my strong and weak points.
- Weak: I get countered easily when fighting at long range. And my defence isn't that good either at long range. I think perhaps I should step back more quickly when getting punched at.
- Strong: I landed alot of shots while fighting at close range and didn't get hit with too many. (We were supposed to stand close to eachother, practically with our gloves against eachother like you see in many pro fights.)

So I suppose if I develop some more my style is gonna look a bit like Hatton's. I'm going to look at some of his amateur fights and see how he forced his opponent in close range.
I'm not sure if it's a good style as I'm not short for my weight and I don't know if close range combat is something that happens often in the AMs.
I'm definately also going to work on my weak points, but the close combat fighting felt alot more natural for me. I'm still quite inexperienced so maybe that's it.

Some feedback about this would be great. Thanks in advance!