is there any way possible to increase chin strength n b less prone to k.o?? just wondering.. prolly a stupid question lol

u can do neck exercises so ur head doesnt get rocked back from a punch. i always hit myself in the face to prepare myself for the shock of gettin punched. its probably a dumb thing to do but i think it helps.

It might sound stupid but sparring and getting hit in the head a lot can help. My chin is much much better now then when I started and my only explination is getting ****ed up every day in sparring in the beginning.

truuu, yea was wondern bout that a, we spar pretty hard an i was hoping it would help the chin

Take a piece of pine and chew on it for hours at a time. That's an old timer's method. If you want to toughin up your skin, so that you'll be less prone to lasserations, take both horse urine and cattle brine, and rub into your face.

Chris

Take a piece of pine and chew on it for hours at a time. That's an old timer's method. If you want to toughin up your skin, so that you'll be less prone to lasserations, take both horse urine and cattle brine, and rub into your face.

Chris

wtf mate no one is going to want to rub ****in horse piss on their face the way to improve ya chin is to spar hard and get used to take a punch all ya can do

wtf mate no one is going to want to rub ****in horse piss on their face the way to improve ya chin is to spar hard and get used to take a punch all ya can do

hahahahaha

You need some good toothpaste. that'll do the ****in job!

No!

When you get hit you get used to it.

Like me for example.. When I get hyped and start getting hit, I really don't mind it.. Your adreneline starts pumping.. That's just me, but I don't mind getting hit after that. Its about being aware. If you turn your face with punches you will take them better.

What you can't see is the punch that will kill you.

To put it simply, no. A KO is caused from a whiplash motion from your brain hitting the inside of your head. There is no exercise in the world that will improve the odds of avoiding this as it is an internal issue, not a muscular one. Some people actually have a stronger protective layer of fluid than others, but that is simply a biological “luck of the draw”. You could strengthen your neck muscles but even that would only protect you against only one type of whiplash, and even then the improvement would be minimal at best.

It is all about old-fashioned defense and head movement.

To put it simply, no. A KO is caused from a whiplash motion from your brain hitting the inside of your head. There is no exercise in the world that will improve the odds of avoiding this as it is an internal issue, not a muscular one. Some people actually have a stronger protective layer of fluid than others, but that is simply a biological “luck of the draw”. You could strengthen your neck muscles but even that would only protect you against only one type of whiplash, and even then the improvement would be minimal at best.

It is all about old-fashioned defense and head movement.

Ya probably right, but if ya wanna strong jaw take two packets of these bad boys
http://ingridle.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/hubba-bubba-strawberry.jpg

and chew em all at once, I do it when shadow boxing.

And if ya forget ya gumshield you can mould it around ya teeth, does the trick, really intimidates your opponent but ya need the strawberry, dont do **** if ya aint got the ´berry. and dont forget to pop out a few bubbles every now and then to distract the oppent (and then an accidental shot to the goollies.. works a wonder)

Can't learn to take a punch. A chin ain't part of the skill package that's taught to you in the gym. You either got one or you don't.

I really think you guys are wrong. The kind of hits that really used to stun me when I started I can just take much easier now.

has anyone thought about actualy not taking the punch and learning to roll them off? no point resisting a punch when you can go with it.

just a thought, works on bodyshots very well

Can't learn to take a punch. A chin ain't part of the skill package that's taught to you in the gym. You either got one or you don't.


Yes, that is exactly right. If you weren't born with a cast iron chin, you ain't never gonna get one. All you can do its the basics of boxing to avoid getting hit: chin down, guard up, move your head. If you are boxing inevitably one day your chin will get tested, nevertheless you ought to postpone that day as long as possible. Make yourself hard to hit then you won't have to spend a lot of time worrying about the quality of your chin.

some guys go with the punch instead of against it through years of experience sparring and fighting it becomes second nature and they might appear to have a rock solid, granite chin but in truth they are making slight defensive movements (Ali) with their heads to go with the punch, instead of against it.

I do not believe you can 'train' a good chin, you got guys like Chuvalo and then guys like Klitschko, it's something you can't train

You either got one or you don't..

I really think you guys are wrong. The kind of hits that really used to stun me when I started I can just take much easier now.

i think what it is, is you have become more evasive and are probably rolling with the punch instead of walking into it, which must have been how it happened in 'the beginning'

I really think you guys are wrong. The kind of hits that really used to stun me when I started I can just take much easier now.

I gree. You get used to being hit, learn strategies for coping, if you konow what its like ya dont suffer from it as much. Ever get that feeling of dejavu after getting hit, or weakness in ya knees, yeah well ya can get accustomed to that, learn to hold a bit longer not move ya legs much until ya recover.
Good thing about boxing is that ya learn how to take a punch.

If ya get hit in a sweet spot, tip of chin, above the ear for example sure ya can go lights out for a while no matter who ya are. But ya can train ya self recovery tactics, getting up slowly if ya knocked down, not straight away while ya legs are jelly, when a boxer does that he feel right in the head but legs are not there, refs stop the fight. Its happened to me b4.

So some people might be genetically able to take a hit better, but its also somethin ya can train for

Being able to absorb a punch or punches, is all in the mind. Jake LaMotta was often quoted as saying, "That before I ever stepped in the ring, I made up my mind that no matter the outcome of the fight, nobody will ever hurt me." Nobody ever did. Including Ray Robinson. It depends how much "Refusal to Yield" a fighter has in him or her. Conditioning plays a big part to.

i think that, to a point both sides are right. for instance margarito can take a harder punch clean on the chin than can miguel cotto. at the same time, both fighters have learned how to take a punch better than when they 21 22 23 years old. however they have not neccesarily, through being hit on the chin, caused the lining of their brain to densen or the nerve behind their jaw to strengthen. they have just, over time, learned their own abilities and limits, and developed an effective mechanism for coping with them.

sweet bro. all posts have made sence and have interesting points. much appreciated

Being able to absorb a punch or punches, is all in the mind. Jake LaMotta was often quoted as saying, "That before I ever stepped in the ring, I made up my mind that no matter the outcome of the fight, nobody will ever hurt me." Nobody ever did. Including Ray Robinson. It depends how much "Refusal to Yield" a fighter has in him or her. Conditioning plays a big part to.

Hey, i got a bridge i would like to sell you.

ive sparred a few times and i honestly cant tell if ive been hit hard yet. Ive never been staggered or owt like that. Ive took a few shots that seemed to rattle my brain and my eyes went funny for a split second but thats about it. i like to think ive got a hard chin but its impossible to tell unless you have videos or someone tells you

Hey, i got a bridge i would like to sell you.




Great post! :biggthump!

There is a few too many theorists in this forum.

Great post! :biggthump!

There is a few too many theorists in this forum.

shrug, maybe I missed something, but what the guy was saying didn't sound like a theory to me.

He was talking about something jake said before a fight, how he made up his mind that he would do whatever it takes...thats not really theory...

Theory is Tyson vs Ali type ****..

Surely getting punched will improve your chin? Look at it this way, you've never had a fight in your life (as in any form of fighting), someone punches you, what will happen? You get shock. However if you get used to being wacked about, then being punched in your first spar/boxing match will come less to a shock to you?

Am I talking gibberish or?

Surely getting punched will improve your chin? Look at it this way, you've never had a fight in your life (as in any form of fighting), someone punches you, what will happen? You get shock. However if you get used to being wacked about, then being punched in your first spar/boxing match will come less to a shock to you?

Am I talking gibberish or?

no, that makes sense. if you understand the type of pain you are about to feel, and have accepted it, it will affect you less.

I've only been here a week or so, and already i pretty much no all the wanna-be's here. Stormi'Norman is correct, my inital reply wasn't a theory at all. It's pretty much fact. If a fighter is determind that the other fellow, no matter what he throw's at him, isn't going to knock him out, he isn't going anywhere.

Mind over matter.

I've only been here a week or so, and already i pretty much no all the wanna-be's here. Stormi'Norman is correct, my inital reply wasn't a theory at all. It's pretty much fact. If a fighter is determind that the other fellow, no matter what he throw's at him, isn't going to knock him out, he isn't going anywhere.

Mind over matter.

That might work. Like if I say to myself ¨I will win¨ and I am determined to win, no matter what the other fighter does, then I will win, end of story. Why did someone tell me that earlier and I could have won all my fights! mind over matter wow.

LOL. Ok. :wtf1:

There is no way to literally "improve your chin".

You can strengthen your neck muscles which will act as a shock absorber and allow you to take a punch slightly better.

You can spar and train to prepare, but only with experience will you learn how to deal with being hit hard and controlling your reaction without a panic.

The human chin is one of the very few places that has concentrated nerve endings, when a person gets hit flush on the chin, in some cases, all of those nerve endings send messages to your brain, but since there are so many nerve endings and too many messages for your brain to process, it overloads and you can blackout, which in boxing we call a knockout. There is no possible way to prevent this from happening. My suggestion is dont get hit.. =)

I've only been here a week or so, and already i pretty much no all the wanna-be's here. Stormi'Norman is correct, my inital reply wasn't a theory at all. It's pretty much fact. If a fighter is determind that the other fellow, no matter what he throw's at him, isn't going to knock him out, he isn't going anywhere.

Mind over matter.


Mind over matter has no barrier to physical contact big homey.. Your saying, when 500 pounds of pressure is continuously hitting you in the head, there is no way for that 500 pounds to take a toll on your body, because your confident in your ability?

Being determined and being in great conditioning, goes a
long way.

wtf mate no one is going to want to rub ****in horse piss on their face the way to improve ya chin is to spar hard and get used to take a punch all ya can do

Well, no not really true actually. You can gain a certain resistance by training your neck muscles (it is still not very much). Sparring won't improve your chin. Getting used to taking a punch also doesn't improve anything. Training your reflexes so you always see everything will help (just goes with defense though), which is maybe what you're thinking of by saying sparring can help, but it does not improve your chin.

You can improve it as much as it can be improved (which is really not much at all) by hard training of all the neck muscles, but being able to take a solid punch is really rather natural. Your determination will make you get up, and your training will help you from getting hit flush or not seeing a punch coming but the only real thing you can do is train the neck muscles. More important though is just training for great defense. If you want to improve your chin, keep it tucked in to your chest all the time and work on blocking, slipping, ducking etc etc. You'll suddenly have an amazing chin. :lol1:

Being determined and being in great conditioning, goes a
long way.

In a way that is true. Being determined will certainly not improve your ability to take a punch. It will make you more willing to go through pain and push on, and not give up or it will make you get up when you think you can't but it won't actually help your chin.

To improve your chin the best thing you can do is learn to fight with it tucked all the way in to your chest all the time, apart from actually training your neck muscles. Your motivation etc will determine how you deal with getting hit ie. whether or not you keep going or get up but actually getting hit is still the same. It will still hurt just as much or put you on your arse just as hard. The more determined you are the more likely you will be to get up though.

In Ricky Hattons autobiography, it says to improve the chin, its just getting used to the shots. Like would a newcomer be able to withstand kostya tszyus straight right?

Well, no not really true actually. You can gain a certain resistance by training your neck muscles (it is still not very much). Sparring won't improve your chin. Getting used to taking a punch also doesn't improve anything. Training your reflexes so you always see everything will help (just goes with defense though), which is maybe what you're thinking of by saying sparring can help, but it does not improve your chin.

You can improve it as much as it can be improved (which is really not much at all) by hard training of all the neck muscles, but being able to take a solid punch is really rather natural. Your determination will make you get up, and your training will help you from getting hit flush or not seeing a punch coming but the only real thing you can do is train the neck muscles. More important though is just training for great defense. If you want to improve your chin, keep it tucked in to your chest all the time and work on blocking, slipping, ducking etc etc. You'll suddenly have an amazing chin. :lol1:

That makes sense, but there are a few points that I don't understand.

Why don't more boxers, particularly those who are said to have questionable punch resistance, train their neck muscles more? Or would the effects be hard to notice because they would be minimal?

Also, how about boxers like Margarito, who were knocked down whilst inexperienced, but now seem to have an excellent chin? Is none of that due to his body adapting to having taken a lot of hard punches over several years?

That makes sense, but there are a few points that I don't understand.

Why don't more boxers, particularly those who are said to have questionable punch resistance, train their neck muscles more? Or would the effects be hard to notice because they would be minimal?

Also, how about boxers like Margarito, who were knocked down whilst inexperienced, but now seem to have an excellent chin? Is none of that due to his body adapting to having taken a lot of hard punches over several years?

Most do train their neck muscles a lot. Nonetheless, while it will make a difference it won't be a great difference. Inexperience plays a big part in it. Margarito was knocked down when he was quite young and it could have been that his muscles were not as developed as they are know. His experience also would have taught him to take the punches less flush and not at times when he is most vulnerable. If he was as good as he is now he would not have been put down. I don't think it was his body adapting as much as it was his fighting experience and learning how to take a punch properly (ie. moving with it, not turning into it etc etc). Even in the Cotto fight he did not take a flush punch while turning into it. It was mostly while he had his head stationary and was ready to take it.

Marg was one of those guys that were just born with a good chin though. He would have always been hard to put down even when he was fifteen. You always need to get used to being hit, that goes without saying, but by the time you get to the pro level it won't change very much at all. By that stage you will as sued to getting hit as you will ever be really. Obviously you will be getting hit harder and with less protective gear on, but by that stage if you can't take a punch well, nothing will help you apart from learning defense better.

Of course you have to learn how to take a punch in the first place as it can be a big shock to the body and system, but that is all very obvious and goes without saying. After that is when your actual chin strength shows up. Once you have sparred and fought enough and have that experience, that is when you have adapted to taking the initial impact of punches and that first part, but it is then that you real chin strength is important. You shouldn't go into any fight without knowing whether you can take a punch or not. That is something that should have been known very early on. From there it is about training defense and your neck because by that stage you should already have adapted to taking those impact shots.