After being in the industry for 15 years, Method Man isn't too pleased with the music scene today.

The former Wu-Tang Clan rapper, who makes a guest appearance in 1994-set comedy-drama The Wackness, says the best time for hip-hop and rap were in the early 90s.

"The music was way more grounded than it is today. Today, you don't feel the movement. Back then, you felt the movement," he recalled to reporters in New York.

He added: "I mean, the whole hip-hop movement. Like when Wu-Tang Clan came in, it was like regardless of where we went, people knew who we were. Or if we were in a new city, there was one person who knew who we was, and that would spread to ten more people, and so on and so forth, up until it was, 'Oh, you ain't up on that Wu-Tang stuff? Oh you ain't down homie!'

"Same thing with Cash Money, No Limit, Death Row - it goes on and on, all these movements. You don't have that any more."

And in other shocking news, the sky is blue, the heavyweight division is down, and the economy is bad... (smilie)

And in other shocking news, the sky is blue, the heavyweight division is down, and the economy is bad... (smilie)

Haha! No need.

Mid 90s hip hop peaked. Now it's glamorized club music. Guys like Nas and Jigga can't catch a break because they have lyrics.

hes right.....the 90's rocked dude :headbang: lol

Mase, Lox, black rob, DMX - 24 hours to live

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The Lox, DMX, Jay-z - Blackout

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The Lox, Camron, Fabolous, Nature - Fantastic 4 pt 2

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DMX, Mase, The Lox - N**** done started sumthin

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What the F*** happened to rappers doing sh!t together? SMH @ busta rhymes being the only one bringin rappers together.

90's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2000's

2000's lost :thumbsdow

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I agree. I would say late 80's to early 90's. That was the golden era of Hip Hop.

those who have been around here already know who i am going to say was the best - red-****ing-man.

it took redman to make a super classic album with meth(blackout).

red always, i mean always, came with hot albums. never sold out. always had witty rhyming. could be gangasta or just ****ing funny. could be stoney or drop in on a song and show up every other rapper on that track. i forget all the songs he made more classic just by being on them.

ill at will vol 2 was, still is, and always be the shit!

and redman is old school. he came on the scene in the early early nineties.

only meth album i really liked is tical to be honest.

edit: i think mc eight's "nuthing but the gangsta"(?) song was a classic track where red shines on it. good song - if u haven't heard - listen to it now!!!!!!

those who have been around here already know who i am going to say was the best - red-****ing-man.

it took redman to make a super classic album with meth(blackout).

red always, i mean always, came with hot albums. never sold out. always had witty rhyming. could be gangasta or just ****ing funny. could be stoney or drop in on a song and show up every other rapper on that track. i forget all the songs he made more classic just by being on them.

ill at will vol 2 was, still is, and always be the shit!

and redman is old school. he came on the scene in the early early nineties.

only meth album i really liked is tical to be honest.


meths 421..the day after was excellent.

meths 421..the day after was excellent.


hanks, maybe i'll give another listen. a lot of people i know only bought meth's albums after tical because of tical. i just listened and decided not to buy after tical.

yeah, why the **** not, i'll give it another chance. thanks man.

but red still more fire! don't agree?

and seriously, check out that track i mentioned in last post. it is an underlooked classic with a bunch of who's who on it.

My favorite Ticalian Stallion track...

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And in other shocking news, the sky is blue, the heavyweight division is down, and the economy is bad... (smilie)

lmao off....I was just about to waste a few minutes typing a response to this thread when low and behold....I saw this post and figured why waste my time.....

lmao off....I was just about to waste a few minutes typing a response to this thread when low and behold....I saw this post and figured why waste my time.....

Oi.

Don't start. I'll e-bitch slap you back to next week pimpin'

edit: i think mc eight's "nuthing but the gangsta"(?) song was a classic track where red shines on it. good song - if u haven't heard - listen to it now!!!!!!

co-sign

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Get over it. The 90's are gone.

the 90's might be gone but we still got:

Illmatic
Reasonable Doubt
Ready to die
Liquid Swords
Only built 4 cuban linx
The Chronic
Me Against the World
It was Written
All Eyez on Me
36 Chambers
Tical
The Infamous
Doe or Die
Life After Death
Hard to Earn
Lifestylez ov da poor and dangerous
Its dark and hell is hot
Moment of Truth
Resurrection
Let the Rhythm Hit em
18th Letter
The Big Picture
Doggystyle
E 1999 Eternal
SouthernPlayalistic
ATLiens
Death Certificate
The Low end theory
Midnight Marauders


I dare anyone to try to argue that the 2000's has brought us better music then the 90's. Its not even close....


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I've got every single one of those tracks on my ipod.

Get over it. The 90's are gone.

Not in my head, I relive hip hop's golden days every time I turn on my car.

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I didn't say you couldn't enjoy the 90's. It's just pointless to continue to complain. It's a wrap.

And the 2000's have had a lot of dope albums. Don't sit here and act like there aren't great albums post 90's.

I've got every single one of those tracks on my ipod.
i dont but i should...i probably have most of them

I didn't say you couldn't enjoy the 90's. It's just pointless to continue to complain. It's a wrap.

And the 2000's have had a lot of dope albums. Don't sit here and act like there aren't great albums post 90's.

The 2000's have also brought us some great music but the 2k's look weak next to the 90's...and like i said in another thread i've been listening to rap since 97. Im 21 so at my age im suppose to like more sh!t from the 2000's but i went back and studied rappers/groups like rakim, big daddy kane, krs one, public enemy, etc. I could probably count the number of classics in the 2k's on my hands.

90s was crazy

I would even go so far as to say 1980s Rap > 2000s rap. It certainly wasn't as well-produced and there weren't many complex flows, but there aren't a lot of 21st century rap albums that can mess with some of the 1980s contributions, like what The Beastie Boys, Too Short, Ice-T, Slick Rick, et al were putting out back then. Nothing "groundbreaking" is coming out like those folks had out, or the Straight Outta Compton album from NWA or BDP, Public Enemy's stuff, at least not on a scale that everyone in the industry stops and takes notice...

i dare somebody to argue how dope eminem's mashall mathers lp and eminem show as nonclassic. i dare you. lyrically, he is arguably the most conscience artist of his time, with a heavy flow and methodical mindset. he was the year 2000 in hip hop, no contest, an dthose albums ranks up there with illmatic and reasonable doubt, and others, and he raps better than them also.

i dare somebody to argue how dope eminem's mashall mathers lp and eminem show as nonclassic. i dare you. lyrically, he is arguably the most conscience artist of his time, with a heavy flow and methodical mindset. he was the year 2000 in hip hop, no contest, an dthose albums ranks up there with illmatic and reasonable doubt, and others, and he raps better than them also.

lol.......no

those albums aint up there with illmatic and reasonable doubt. Fukk what ya heard. Ill say this...eminem line for line bar for bar can go toe to toe with just about anybody. But his cd's did not have the fluidity from beginning to end that illmatic and reasonable doubt had.

Eminem was good when his songs were less goofy. He started getting too weird on Encore...farting etc.

not that the production was bad on eminems albums but in my opinion it cant compare with the production heard on illmatic, reasonable doubt, only built 4...

its all a matter of opinion but if we were to have a poll majority would say illmatic and reasonable doubt>>>> its been done before.

lol.......no

those albums aint up there with illmatic and reasonable doubt. Fukk what ya heard. Ill say this...eminem line for line bar for bar can go toe to toe with just about anybody. But his cd's did not have the fluidity from beginning to end that illmatic and reasonable doubt had.
Infinite kind of did, actually...

Marshall Mathers LP - other than "Remember Me?" maybe is start-to-finish a fluid album IMO, and if you heard it when it immediately came out, all the songs' content flowed together with his "real world" self...

It actually matches Slim Shady LP with some of the skits, intro, type of songs (dance, single, more lyrical over simple beat) mirroring each other at the same place on each disc

Im not sayin his cd's were bad. I'll give him his props but i dont think his cd's were as fluid as illmatic and reasonable doubt. I dont think his beats were as good. I cant say anything bad about him lyrically. Hes consistently one of the best at least from when he started to 2004 or whenever his last cd came out. But i like the concepts and the styles of jay-z on reasonable doubt and nas on illmatic more. Most would agree but im not hating on the those who disagree.

i dare somebody to argue how dope eminem's mashall mathers lp and eminem show as nonclassic. i dare you. lyrically, he is arguably the most conscience artist of his time, with a heavy flow and methodical mindset. he was the year 2000 in hip hop, no contest, an dthose albums ranks up there with illmatic and reasonable doubt, and others, and he raps better than them also.

Marshall Mathers LP is an amazing album (9.5/10) and The Eminem Show is good (8/10) but neither of those two albums are up there with Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt.

On MMLP I only skip one track (Remember Me) but The Eminem Show wasn't up to par with his first two mainstream releases. An album has to be truly incredible from start to finish for it to rank up there with Illmatic, Ready 2 Die, Reasonable Doubt etc...

Das EFX in the 90's = Hip Hop was best in the 90's!
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real ****ing hip hop

you people who like the game and little wayne piss me off!!! Your all a bunch of brainless idiots just like that tongue ring gay shithead game and waynes a bihtc ****** to!!

you people who like the game and little wayne piss me off!!! Your all a bunch of brainless idiots just like that tongue ring gay shithead game and waynes a bihtc ****** to!!

You have no idea how wrong you are.


I've forgotten more Hiphop than you'll ever know and I happen to like Game. Not an overly huge fan, but to say one is a brainless idiot if they like him is pretty stupid.

After being in the industry for 15 years, Method Man isn't too pleased with the music scene today.

The former Wu-Tang Clan rapper, who makes a guest appearance in 1994-set comedy-drama The Wackness, says the best time for hip-hop and rap were in the early 90s.

"The music was way more grounded than it is today. Today, you don't feel the movement. Back then, you felt the movement," he recalled to reporters in New York.

He added: "I mean, the whole hip-hop movement. Like when Wu-Tang Clan came in, it was like regardless of where we went, people knew who we were. Or if we were in a new city, there was one person who knew who we was, and that would spread to ten more people, and so on and so forth, up until it was, 'Oh, you ain't up on that Wu-Tang stuff? Oh you ain't down homie!'

"Same thing with Cash Money, No Limit, Death Row - it goes on and on, all these movements. You don't have that any more."


The mans gotta point!

You have no idea how wrong you are.


I've forgotten more Hiphop than you'll ever know and I happen to like Game. Not an overly huge fan, but to say one is a brainless idiot if they like him is pretty stupid.

These ****ers wayne and game would not be shit if this was the ninetys. Both of them are terrible rappers. Method Man Wu-tang that was real shit man real shit. This stuff now is disrespectful to rap excluding only a couple.

These ****ers wayne and game would not be shit if this was the ninetys. Both of them are terrible rappers. Method Man Wu-tang that was real shit man real shit. This stuff now is disrespectful to rap excluding only a couple.

We're 8 years removed from the 90s.


Get over it.

Wayne and Game are here.

You don't like whats represented as Hiphop in todays mainstream?

Move on like I did and keep bumping what you do like.

Complaining about it and talking shit to those who do like those artists isn't going to make them go away.

How about some of you take a time machine. Then have Wu-Tang, EPMD, Biggie, Pac, Tribe, De La Soul, and others of the 90's run a train on you. Maybe that will help out. No disrespect to the 90's.