so this is my first fight. it was a loss, but a big lesson learned. i completely forgot everthing i was tellin myself the day of and day before the fight when i stepped inside the ring. my coach warned me not to throw everythin i had into my combos or bang it out with him because i would tire out easily, but as soon as i got in the ring that's exactly what i did. i lost all my gas and didn't have the energy to move around and the ref called it off.

comments and feedback would be appreciated... thanks

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/AFEhEZrKVRQ&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/AFEhEZrKVRQ&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Which one are ya?

blue corner

You move into his right hand with your chin up too much...

What did you both weigh in at? He looks at least a division, maybe two, bigger than you. Overall you didn't look to bad, he was just bigger and stronger, which wore you down.

Minor adjustments, and a guy your size, you're in it to win it. :)

BTW, props for posting that. It's a lot easier posting a fight where you look good and win, than one that ends like that. Keep believing in yourself!

hey not bad mate

you tend to swing a little wildly with ya chin up and drop your hands when throwing occasionally but overall it was pretty decent, stick with it man


as punchdrunk said he did look roughly 5-6 kgs heavier, i know it doesnt sound like much but it is.......

just keep at it homie and improve

You are surely looking good for your first fight. Like the other said, you drop your hands, sometimes when comming in and something after your throw.

I also noticed that your jab is a little bit lazy and you don't use it as much as you should. I would suggest working on getting a stiffer jab and using it more before throwing thos big right hands.

Finally when you move out, you back up in a straight line. It's not a big deal because everybody does that at first, but it's still important.

Anyway, props for posting that video. That guy looked pretty experimented and you did well. Don't let it get to you.

I didnt know midget boxing was competitive?
On a serious note.. Don't be suprised he stopped it, I would of stopped it along time before then..

I didnt know midget boxing was competitive?
On a serious note.. Don't be suprised he stopped it, I would of stopped it along time before then..
you're a ****sucker

Dude, he looked so much bigger than you. What weight class are you btw? and old are you? (he looked a good half a ft bigger than you, does rees vs kortenik pop in mind?) Btw I thought you looked alright, better than me on my debut anyway. (even though I won but still, you looked good).

What did you both weigh in at? He looks at least a division, maybe two, bigger than you. Overall you didn't look to bad, he was just bigger and stronger, which wore you down.


well the scale i used at my gym was 5 pounds off than the one i used at the weigh in. i thought i was 142 goin into the fight, but i was 137 according to their scale. the other guy was 144, so i had to down 2 bottles of water and eat a little snack to bump me up to 139.

well the scale i used at my gym was 5 pounds off than the one i used at the weigh in. i thought i was 142 goin into the fight, but i was 137 according to their scale. the other guy was 144, so i had to down 2 bottles of water and eat a little snack to bump me up to 139.

hows your training like and how long have u been training?? how often do u run?? you gassed out pretty quick.. other than that keep up the good work.. just work harder next time.. alot of guys lose their first fight

well the scale i used at my gym was 5 pounds off than the one i used at the weigh in. i thought i was 142 goin into the fight, but i was 137 according to their scale. the other guy was 144, so i had to down 2 bottles of water and eat a little snack to bump me up to 139.

7 pounds.......thats still a bit to give away between two evenly matched fighters.....

i still reckon he looked more than 7lbs bigger than you mate but oh well

You are surely looking good for your first fight. Like the other said, you drop your hands, sometimes when comming in and something after your throw.

I also noticed that your jab is a little bit lazy and you don't use it as much as you should. I would suggest working on getting a stiffer jab and using it more before throwing thos big right hands.

Finally when you move out, you back up in a straight line. It's not a big deal because everybody does that at first, but it's still important.

Anyway, props for posting that video. That guy looked pretty experimented and you did well. Don't let it get to you.

ya my coach was tellin me to use my jab more every break between the rounds, but my fatigue and instincts just kicked in. i've already been praticin shiftin to the side when i'm tryin to get out of range as well.

but thanks for the tips

I didnt know midget boxing was competitive?
On a serious note.. Don't be suprised he stopped it, I would of stopped it along time before then..

and i didn't know **** had the balls to step in the ring, but i guess you proved me wrong.

and if your talkin about my reaction when the ref called it off, i was surprised at that point. i was only exhausted and not really hurt, so i wanted ithe fight to carry on. after thinkin about it though, he prolly would got me on 3 standin 8 counts because i was just a punchin bag at that point.

and by the way, when would have you stopped the fight?

Dude, he looked so much bigger than you. What weight class are you btw? and old are you? (he looked a good half a ft bigger than you, does rees vs kortenik pop in mind?) Btw I thought you looked alright, better than me on my debut anyway. (even though I won but still, you looked good).

well i was goin for lightweight, but i had to go up to welterweight because there was no one in my weight class that i could match up with and i wanted a fight. but he was maybe a few inches taller than me, i was just keepin my stance low. and i'm 22 by the way.

hows your training like and how long have u been training?? how often do u run?? you gassed out pretty quick.. other than that keep up the good work.. just work harder next time.. alot of guys lose their first fight


my trainin was pretty bad to be honest. i maybe ran once a week or twice if i was lucky. then i'd be in the gym doin pad and bag work 2 or 3 days and do some weights 2 days of the week. but the reason why i got tired pretty quickly was the fact that every power shot i threw, i was tryin to go for the knock out. i used up a lot of energy doin that. so add the 2 together and that's what happens. i should of used more speed and snappier punches, but like i said... i'll learn from my mistakes.

Well, you seem to have taken it well and didn't quit so it was a good fight! Workout with the goal of being able to beat that guy and maybe you can fight him again.

you're a ****sucker
Your an E-warrior so hush boy..


and i didn't know **** had the balls to step in the ring, but i guess you proved me wrong.

and if your talkin about my reaction when the ref called it off, i was surprised at that point. i was only exhausted and not really hurt, so i wanted ithe fight to carry on. after thinkin about it though, he prolly would got me on 3 standin 8 counts because i was just a punchin bag at that point.

and by the way, when would have you stopped the fight?


Yup **** clearly do have the balls to step in the ring seeing as i box at a high level :dunce:
You weren't fit enough for the fight.. Your coach should not have put you in already... As its your first fight i guess ill let you off but you do what all people do on their first fight and throw bombs..
Should of kept a tight guard and pare (sp?) some of his shots to counter.. Its not about the knockout you know its about the points.. Feint more often and more head movement.. Try not to stay flat footed but dont bounce around too much as you'll lose stamina.. Relax and keep your arms flexible and flick your jab out more.. Throw more combos like.. Feint to the head, jab to the body uppercut to the jaw.. Should of stayed in close and be the agressor, you would of saved energy by not jumping around but by pushing him around the ring..

You looked good.. concentrate on your training.. you'll definitely beat him the next time.. You looked pretty good just got tired... you were winning and would have won based on the first 2 rounds... got too tired in the 3rd... Good fight.

and if that was your first.. even better fight.

I didnt know midget boxing was competitive?
On a serious note.. Don't be suprised he stopped it, I would of stopped it along time before then..
wow I bet your mom feels the same way about having you! ON a serious note... your ****ing garbage, please go kill yourself!

wow I bet your mom feels the same way about having you! ON a serious note... your ****ing garbage, please go kill yourself!
amen, i left a similar reply in page 1 and got neg karma for it from him... expect it coming ur way too lol.

its easy to sit behind a computer and crack jokes on someone who is just looking for some construction criticism.

MATTup, you clearly don't understand im not an e-warrior like you and youngmoney? and im garbage? LOL

MATTup, you clearly don't understand im not an e-warrior like you and youngmoney? and im garbage? LOL
no your an e-jackass. this kid obviously was looking for advice here and u ridicule him. i wouldn't have wasted this much time on it if u hadn't neg k'd me.
not to mention he posts a fight that doesn't showcase him winning. i thought u were ignorant for posting that & i voiced my opinion.

MATTup, you clearly don't understand im not an e-warrior like you and youngmoney? and im garbage? LOL gaythboii, you clearly dont understand that you need to change your tampon and shut the **** up!

gaythboii, you clearly dont understand that you need to change your tampon and shut the **** up!

Coming from a guy who embarrasses himself every time he posts with that hilarious sig.

Coming from a guy who embarrasses himself every time he posts with that hilarious sig.zab"3 round"judah would never reach the level david haye has. I bet you thought zab won that clottey fight! your a ****ing idiot and a disgrace to boxing. in the meantime please turn off your computer and go beat off to your dumbbell
:wank:http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9707/74237058160536dm3.jpg

zab"3 round"judah would never reach the level david haye has. I bet you thought zab won that clottey fight! your a ****ing idiot and a disgrace to boxing. in the meantime please turn off your computer and go beat off to your dumbbell
:wank:http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9707/74237058160536dm3.jpg

Who cares ya still wrong. Try stepping into a gym before ya come up to me again boy.

my trainin was pretty bad to be honest. i maybe ran once a week or twice if i was lucky. then i'd be in the gym doin pad and bag work 2 or 3 days and do some weights 2 days of the week. but the reason why i got tired pretty quickly was the fact that every power shot i threw, i was tryin to go for the knock out. i used up a lot of energy doin that. so add the 2 together and that's what happens. i should of used more speed and snappier punches, but like i said... i'll learn from my mistakes.

thats a big problem right there.. my coach told me 'if u wanna fight then train. If you want to win, train harder'.. u have to run at least 3 times in a week..

right mate! here well done on the fight. when you punch you just leave your chin wide open for a corker but thats a minor adjustment which you can go over in training. at times your jab is pretty solid so keep at that and when you throw you're right make sure you know that you've got a fair chance of landing it or else you'll pay for it. Just small mistakes mate but that's all it take to lose. keep at and you'll go places.

You were at a size (and experience) disadvatage, and although you lost, you seem to have a good understanding of what you did wrong and how to improve.

Good luck for the future mate, and well done on your performance.

thanks everybody for the feedback. i'll take everythin into consideration when i'm trainin

and as for nath... thanks for the tips. you sound knowledgeable when your not actin like a douchebag;) i know your young, but don't let your ego get the best of you.

NEXT TIME I GUARANTEE A WIN

respect y'all

Not bad for a first bout. Do more running, knuckle press ups and other fitness, sparring and more running! After that I think you'll be OK, fatboy!

Alot of the comments and tips are true, but I think it is mainly because you are not fit so you made mistakes. If you get fit I think you'll be much better.

NEXT TIME I GUARANTEE A WIN


**** yeah dude

He will win if he gets fit. He is OK for a novice. First round was good.

Not bad for a first bout. Do more running, knuckle press ups and other fitness, sparring and more running! After that I think you'll be OK, fatboy!

Alot of the comments and tips are true, but I think it is mainly because you are not fit so you made mistakes. If you get fit I think you'll be much better.

- Recommends alot of nuckle press ups.
- Uses the term "fatboy".
- Has a LennyMclean nickname so he's probably from the UK.
- He idiolizes an unlicensed boxer so he obviously doesn't know **** about boxing.
- He finaly realized another soccerplayer avatar/name would be to obvious.
- High postrate.
- Red reputation.

HI RAFAEL BENITEZ!

EDIT: just saw you were once again crapping on Marciano in the history section. And that flag in your sig is probably about liverpool or something? Plus you posted in another thread that you do 1k press ups, 400 crunches + alot of legraises, and 15 min speedbag. LOL, what a waste of time.
You're not even trying to hide it.
You've been banned 3 times already... Have some selfrespect and stay away.

Haha, I was thinking it was him as well! :D

Yeah it's him, the guy on the flag in his sig is Rafael Benitez.

- Recommends alot of nuckle press ups.
- Uses the term "fatboy".
- Has a LennyMclean nickname so he's probably from the UK.
- He idiolizes an unlicensed boxer so he obviously doesn't know **** about boxing.
- He finaly realized another soccerplayer avatar/name would be to obvious.
- High postrate.
- Red reputation.

HI RAFAEL BENITEZ!

EDIT: just saw you were once again crapping on Marciano in the history section. And that flag in your sig is probably about liverpool or something? Plus you posted in another thread that you do 1k press ups, 400 crunches + alot of legraises, and 15 min speedbag. LOL, what a waste of time.
You're not even trying to hide it.
You've been banned 3 times already... Have some selfrespect and stay away.
lol good call

Not bad for a first bout. Do more running, knuckle press ups and other fitness, sparring and more running! After that I think you'll be OK, fatboy!

Alot of the comments and tips are true, but I think it is mainly because you are not fit so you made mistakes. If you get fit I think you'll be much better.

we know its you rafael quit these stupid alts and piss off

zab"3 round"judah would never reach the level david haye has. I bet you thought zab won that clottey fight! your a ****ing idiot and a disgrace to boxing. in the meantime please turn off your computer and go beat off to your dumbbell
:wank:http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9707/74237058160536dm3.jpg

I'm gonna put the truth to you, it might hurt a little bit; that's truth, ****in' with you. You work through that ****.

David Haye's been on the floor more times than I can count on one hand from Cruiserweights, man, Cruiserweights. He's doing a bunch of illegal substances no doubt, and hiding it between fights, whatever. Good deal, he's still knocking out paper champs like Maca and claiming he's going to move into the Heavyweight division.

You need to understand, that if a guy is getting dropped by Cruisers, what's going to happen when he fights a guy like Klitschko? How dare he call out Klitschko, Klitschko would have Haye dazed with power jabs ala Foreman-Holyfield, when Foreman landed that solid jab that rocked Holyfield's head back. That's what happens when a Heavyweight who knows how to jab, lands a power jab on a Cruiser. ESPECIALLY a Cruiser who has a non pure boxing style, Haye likes to get in there and land power shots, and his head is going to to just what Holyfield's, or any other Cruiser's head has done when this concept is applied. Their ****ing head turns into a speedbag for a second and jolts back, usually past their other shoulder.. I personally expect Haye to get his ass handed to him by a sub-par heavy, but if he does juice it up and make it to Klitschko, he is going to be handed a serious beating.

now, on a more personal note...

p4p'd probably **** you up, just by judging from what kind of degenerate would post such idiotic stupid comments about beating off on a dumbell, you actually went to a website, got the pic and did all that just to make an ass of yourself...so, I'm guessin you're a ****stick, but ...that's just an instinctual assumption...

Pacquiao was KO'd at flyweight, yet he has beaten 2 ATG featherweights, and won a belt at lightweight.

Being KO'd at one weight doesn't mean that you'd be KO'd at another, especially if the KO at the lower weight happened early in your career.

hey not bad mate

you tend to swing a little wildly with ya chin up and drop your hands when throwing occasionally but overall it was pretty decent, stick with it man


as punchdrunk said he did look roughly 5-6 kgs heavier, i know it doesnt sound like much but it is.......

what he said.

Pacquiao was KO'd at flyweight, yet he has beaten 2 ATG featherweights, and won a belt at lightweight.

Being KO'd at one weight doesn't mean that you'd be KO'd at another, especially if the KO at the lower weight happened early in your career.

This guy is just an unfit novice, so it isn't even relevant. I really think he should simmer down and get fit and then he will be OK for a novice. He can take it from there.

Good work for a first fight and good **** for posting even a loss,Im having my first fight on the 13th 178lb.Watching your video makes me wanna run more so I wont get gassed ,but keep it up u had nothing to be ashamed of with that fight!

yo man good job, i can relate i jus got stopped in my first fight too. it aint a good feeling, u fought well tho hold ur head high. and think about it, fighting alone accomplishing a lot of things in the sport of boxing , ur experience went up a lot... use it to make u nothing but better. good luck in the next one. great heart and effort.

Pacquiao was KO'd at flyweight, yet he has beaten 2 ATG featherweights, and won a belt at lightweight.

Being KO'd at one weight doesn't mean that you'd be KO'd at another, especially if the KO at the lower weight happened early in your career.

I cannot believe you actually come in here and try to reason with these individuals. My respect for you has increased even further.

I cannot believe you actually come in here and try to reason with these individuals. My respect for you has increased even further.

Ha ha, thanks Dan.

How's it going? You box?

I haven't been to my gym for ages, just started jogging again this week, my stamina needs some serious work...

Ha ha, thanks Dan.

How's it going? You box?

I haven't been to my gym for ages, just started jogging again this week, my stamina needs some serious work...

Nah I don't. I just hit the heavy bag for fitness. I wouldn't have it in me to train hard enough to fight, way too lazy.

I don't think there is much to tell that hasn't been told, but I did notice you were getting hit with too many punches that you should have been able to avoid rather easily. Whether that was from being tired or or your arms were heavy, I don't know.

The obvious things I would work on would be your stamina and pace. You went out too quick and didn't pace yourself. Obvious I know, but an important factor in a fight. Also, you need to work on your defense quite a bit. Being your first fight, it was a good showing but you were still getting tagged a bit too much. Your hands seemed too loose and too far apart. Work on keeping a very tight, solid defense. The best way is to imagine your body and head scrunched up into the smallest possible area and then cover that area with your arms held tightly. Elbows in, hands close to your face and the biggest point, your chin tucked down. Your chin was out way too much!

You could have avoided a lot of his punches simply by pulling in your arms and stepping in, not away from him. If your defense was tight a lot of his stuff would have gone around and over you after which you could have popped him a few times and stepped out to regroup then, instead of while he was punching. Think punch and get out, not him punch, you punch, him punch then step back.

So, to put it simply. Try and go for a much tighter defense. Give as little a target as possible to your opponent and whatever is available should not be vulnerable. While working on your defense don't forget about it while you're punching. Keep thinking about everything, apart from your throwing hand, being in a tight little ball at all times. When you're in your tightest defensive posture try to remember to keep that at all times while you're attacking. You open up too much.

The other thing was stamina/endurance. With better stamina, endurance and pacing you would have beaten that guy.

Apart from those, which sound like a lot but they are just fundamentals which not doubt you are already working on, it was a very good showing for your first fight. Keep going, keep training and good luck! :fing02:

Don't take notice of the douche bags on here. All the midget talk and ego is sad, but that's boxing. Most guys here that can fight well and know their stuff (and there are quite a few) don't talk ****. Well done.

yo man good job, i can relate i jus got stopped in my first fight too. it aint a good feeling, u fought well tho hold ur head high. and think about it, fighting alone accomplishing a lot of things in the sport of boxing , ur experience went up a lot... use it to make u nothing but better. good luck in the next one. great heart and effort.

oh really did u lose? how did it go but, you planning on fighting again?

more running u got bad cardio

I'm gonna put the truth to you, it might hurt a little bit; that's truth, ****in' with you. You work through that ****.

David Haye's been on the floor more times than I can count on one hand from Cruiserweights, man, Cruiserweights. He's doing a bunch of illegal substances no doubt, and hiding it between fights, whatever. Good deal, he's still knocking out paper champs like Maca and claiming he's going to move into the Heavyweight division.

You need to understand, that if a guy is getting dropped by Cruisers, what's going to happen when he fights a guy like Klitschko? How dare he call out Klitschko, Klitschko would have Haye dazed with power jabs ala Foreman-Holyfield, when Foreman landed that solid jab that rocked Holyfield's head back. That's what happens when a Heavyweight who knows how to jab, lands a power jab on a Cruiser. ESPECIALLY a Cruiser who has a non pure boxing style, Haye likes to get in there and land power shots, and his head is going to to just what Holyfield's, or any other Cruiser's head has done when this concept is applied. Their ****ing head turns into a speedbag for a second and jolts back, usually past their other shoulder.. I personally expect Haye to get his ass handed to him by a sub-par heavy, but if he does juice it up and make it to Klitschko, he is going to be handed a serious beating.

now, on a more personal note...

p4p'd probably **** you up, just by judging from what kind of degenerate would post such idiotic stupid comments about beating off on a dumbell, you actually went to a website, got the pic and did all that just to make an ass of yourself...so, I'm guessin you're a ****stick, but ...that's just an instinctual assumption...

o god just another wlad nut hugger! Wlads chin is not even a ****ing chin its a china chin! David haye is much more solid than wlad. O and by the way those russians or eastern europeans are the mother****ers that REALLY abuse drugs just to box. Do you have any proof david haye is roided up? NO EXACTLY SO SHUT THE **** UP! Now do me a favor and take your keyboard and shuv it up your fat ass!

I don't think there is much to tell that hasn't been told, but I did notice you were getting hit with too many punches that you should have been able to avoid rather easily. Whether that was from being tired or or your arms were heavy, I don't know.

The obvious things I would work on would be your stamina and pace. You went out too quick and didn't pace yourself. Obvious I know, but an important factor in a fight. Also, you need to work on your defense quite a bit. Being your first fight, it was a good showing but you were still getting tagged a bit too much. Your hands seemed too loose and too far apart. Work on keeping a very tight, solid defense. The best way is to imagine your body and head scrunched up into the smallest possible area and then cover that area with your arms held tightly. Elbows in, hands close to your face and the biggest point, your chin tucked down. Your chin was out way too much!

You could have avoided a lot of his punches simply by pulling in your arms and stepping in, not away from him. If your defense was tight a lot of his stuff would have gone around and over you after which you could have popped him a few times and stepped out to regroup then, instead of while he was punching. Think punch and get out, not him punch, you punch, him punch then step back.

So, to put it simply. Try and go for a much tighter defense. Give as little a target as possible to your opponent and whatever is available should not be vulnerable. While working on your defense don't forget about it while you're punching. Keep thinking about everything, apart from your throwing hand, being in a tight little ball at all times. When you're in your tightest defensive posture try to remember to keep that at all times while you're attacking. You open up too much.

The other thing was stamina/endurance. With better stamina, endurance and pacing you would have beaten that guy.

Apart from those, which sound like a lot but they are just fundamentals which not doubt you are already working on, it was a very good showing for your first fight. Keep going, keep training and good luck! :fing02:

Don't take notice of the douche bags on here. All the midget talk and ego is sad, but that's boxing. Most guys here that can fight well and know their stuff (and there are quite a few) don't talk ****. Well done.

thanks for the feedback and tips

Really nice from you to post your first video, even if you lost. Not a lot of people do so and i encourage you to do so even if you lose a couple more. It requires a lot of balls to show when we lose.

1) Your gonna have to improve that cardio. That means 3 times a week, a good 45 minute(rough i know). This will help your agility(by agility, i mean foot&torso movement).

2)For your overall stamina, you need to do more high intensity 3 minutes heavy bag sessions. You just need to punch at a high intensity more often, to develop your arm stamina.

3)To help your defense, you need to tighten up. That means chin more tucked in(makes you look like a retard but that dont matter in the ring). You need to make yourself smaller, keep your elbows next to your ribs&stuck to your sides. You will feel more ''explosive''(see Clottey in his last fight vs Judah, should give you a good idea).

4)As stated up there, just keep working that jab and setting up your right crosses with the jab first.