View Full Version : Being High vs Being Drunk


Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 12:56 PM
this was probably done some time in the past, but I am curious as to what people favor.

I went out lastnight and drank quite a bit lastnight, and I decided that I liked smoking a bowl with a friend a lot better than drinking a lot.

When I drink, it relaxes my body somewhat, but my mind still races 500 miles a minute. The next morning I wake up, feel like I'm going to toss the cookies until about noon, and I have a terrible headache, which is what I was trying to get rid of in the first place.

When I light up, it relaxes my body and my mind. I dont feel like I have to think so hard because everything doesn't feel as urgent as it did ten minutes before. My body relaxes and my head doesn't hurt so bad. For me, (I dont know about anyone else) but I dont wake up feeling like **** either.

I guess the best choice would be being sober all the time, but who does the best thing all the time? :noangel:

Discuss

Nuno
09-09-2003, 01:09 PM
I'm voted sober.......

Mr. Beelzebub
09-09-2003, 01:11 PM
You voted sober 'cause you're not allowed to drink

Nuno
09-09-2003, 01:11 PM
:( :whipped: :whipped: :whipped:

ruffneck119
09-09-2003, 01:17 PM
I get way quiet when I am high and I get a little paranoid because I think too much, so I like being drunk way more. Plus I like the act of drinking. I am way close to be an alchy but not really since I only drink once a week now :)

wondermut
09-09-2003, 01:23 PM
Sober!

Nuno
09-09-2003, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by wondermut
Sober!

*gives wondermut nerdy hi-five*

nance
09-09-2003, 01:36 PM
I prefer sober myself. I like being in control of myself.

The Ensanity
09-09-2003, 01:42 PM
Sober is the way to be....**** ENHANCEMENTS...all natural

Nuno
09-09-2003, 01:43 PM
*double hi-five for mom and ensanity*

Purity
09-09-2003, 02:05 PM
suprisingly enough i voted sober too. in the long run, it's the best.
everything's cool depending on what yer doing. so here's the ideal situations for each state of being:

drunk- at the river, bar, ballgame, party, family reunion, vegas, or anywhere on new years.
high- on a couch doing nothing, at the beach, camping, visiting amsterdam
exctasy- at a club, in a limo with women
baked- disneyland
coked- fighting a war, vegas
sober- at work, reading, in school, in church

nance
09-09-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Purity
suprisingly enough i voted sober too. in the long run, it's the best.
everything's cool depending on what yer doing. so here's the ideal situations for each state of being:

drunk- at the river, bar, ballgame, party, family reunion, vegas, or anywhere on new years.
high- on a couch doing nothing, at the beach, camping, visiting amsterdam
exctasy- at a club, in a limo with women
baked- disneyland
coked- fighting a war, vegas
sober- at work, reading, in school, in church

A time and place for everything, right Purity? Good job :)

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Purity
high- visiting amsterdam


hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

Purity
09-09-2003, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by madcrewmom
A time and place for everything, right Purity? Good job :)

exactly. the 2 main problems with any and all drugs is that
1. people do them at the wrong place/time
2. people become dependent on them and do too much

if those 2 things don't happen then i honestly don't think drugs are harmful at all.

nance
09-09-2003, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Purity
exactly. the 2 main problems with any and all drugs is that
1. people do them at the wrong place/time
2. people become dependent on them and do too much

if those 2 things don't happen then i honestly don't think drugs are harmful at all.

I'm not sure I agree with your last statement, but each to his own. The problem with drugs is that it is a mind/body altering chemical and it can make you do things that you normally wouldn't do. And those things can be harmful to others. That is what makes it wrong.

ruffneck119
09-09-2003, 02:22 PM
You shouldn't have put sober in the poll. It's gay because it defeats the purpose of seeing which one people like more high/drunk. Also, some will try to look cool/better and put sober.

Nuno
09-09-2003, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by ruffneck119
Also, some will try to look cool/better and put sober.

Seriously, I am sober.....

ruffneck119
09-09-2003, 02:25 PM
I am sober to, what's your point?

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by ruffneck119
You shouldn't have put sober in the poll. It's gay because it defeats the purpose of seeing which one people like more high/drunk. Also, some will try to look cool/better and put sober.

I was just trying to see what people prefer, and if people prefer sober, then so be it. Hopefully people dont honestly think that marking sober on some internet poll is going to make them look better.

ruffneck119
09-09-2003, 02:27 PM
You would be surprised.

Purity
09-09-2003, 02:32 PM
who the hell tries to look cool by being sober?

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 02:33 PM
haha, I think I look way cooler when I'm drunk, even though it's all a lie.

Nuno
09-09-2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by ruffneck119
I am sober to, what's your point?

I'm sober 99% of the year...

Purity
09-09-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by madcrewmom
I'm not sure I agree with your last statement, but each to his own. The problem with drugs is that it is a mind/body altering chemical and it can make you do things that you normally wouldn't do. And those things can be harmful to others. That is what makes it wrong.

yeah but that's like saying that the problem with cars is that you can get into accidents and die. everybody's different and i think the degree of risk is realistically determined by the level of responsibility.
i think the real problem is that people aren't responsible.

Purity
09-09-2003, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Purity
who the hell tries to look cool by being sober?

except those self-righteous ****s that think they're better than everyone else because they "don't need to be dependent on anything" when really they're just too ****in scared to take a drink cause the last time they got wasted they puked everywhere and made jackasses of themselves.

hey look! i just quoted myself :crazy2:

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Purity
hey look! i just quoted myself :crazy2:


that makes you super cool

Purity
09-09-2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
that makes you super cool

right back atcha kid :cool:

wondermut
09-09-2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Nuno
I'm sober 99% of the year...


I am sober 100% of the year. You and I would get along well.

wondermut
09-09-2003, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Purity
who the hell tries to look cool by being sober?


I get a lot of **** for being sober.

Nuno
09-09-2003, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by wondermut
I get a lot of **** for being sober.

Ditto....

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by wondermut
I am sober 100% of the year. You and I would get along well.

This is the funniest thing that I have seen anyone draw conclusions that they would get along with someone over. "Hey you play pogs, I play pogs! Nevermind that you are a 34 year old transvestite and I'm a 12 year old kid! We'd get along great!"

Sorry about being a ***** today, I've got a hell of a headache

Mr. Beelzebub
09-09-2003, 02:46 PM
I usually call Nuno a puss.

The Ensanity
09-09-2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
This is the funniest thing that I have seen anyone draw conclusions that they would get along with someone over. "Hey you play pogs, I play pogs! Nevermind that you are a 34 year old transvestite and I'm a 12 year old kid! We'd get along great!"
LMMFAO

Bzob
09-09-2003, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Nuno
I'm sober 99% of the year...

Even I can claim to be sober 80%of the year

I chose Dunk as opposed to High just because i drink more than i smoke. But in reality i would like to get back to my roots and be a stoner

Bzob
09-09-2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
This is the funniest thing that I have seen anyone draw conclusions that they would get along with someone over. "Hey you play pogs, I play pogs! Nevermind that you are a 34 year old transvestite and I'm a 12 year old kid! We'd get along great!"

Sorry about being a ***** today, I've got a hell of a headache

Maybe he was talking about your personality

wondermut
09-09-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
This is the funniest thing that I have seen anyone draw conclusions that they would get along with someone over. "Hey you play pogs, I play pogs! Nevermind that you are a 34 year old transvestite and I'm a 12 year old kid! We'd get along great!"

Sorry about being a ***** today, I've got a hell of a headache


See....everyone pics on the sober guy.

Nuno
09-09-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
I usually call Nuno a puss.

:(

It's kinda funny watching drunk people when your sober though.....

Nuno
09-09-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by wondermut
See....everyone pics on the sober guy.

Agreed....read bub's post...

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 02:56 PM
I hate being sober around drunk people. If I decide not to drink, I usually wont go to a party at all unless I know there will be more than just me not drinking. When I am around someone who's drinking that I know personally and I'm not drinking with them, and they start acting stupid, I hate being around them. It's not permanent, but I hate feeling that way.

Bzob
09-09-2003, 02:59 PM
I love watching people get **** faced, You can get in some high class people watching

Nuno
09-09-2003, 02:59 PM
Bub gets even funnier when he's drunk.....one of our friends likes to talk to you 2 inches from your face when he's drunk......I think I'm the Portuguese Brad Pitt when I'm drunk......

Nuno
09-09-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Bzob
I love watching people get **** faced, You can get in some high class people watching

Werd......

nance
09-09-2003, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Purity
yeah but that's like saying that the problem with cars is that you can get into accidents and die. everybody's different and i think the degree of risk is realistically determined by the level of responsibility.
i think the real problem is that people aren't responsible.

Your last sentence says it all. People aren't responsible. That is what I've been trying to teach my son. To be responsible. It's worth repeating.

nance
09-09-2003, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
This is the funniest thing that I have seen anyone draw conclusions that they would get along with someone over. "Hey you play pogs, I play pogs! Nevermind that you are a 34 year old transvestite and I'm a 12 year old kid! We'd get along great!"

Sorry about being a ***** today, I've got a hell of a headache

Drink water. Lots of it. Dehydration is the cause of most headaches.

LukeDothSucketh
09-09-2003, 03:26 PM
BEER.

ruffneck119
09-09-2003, 03:42 PM
I drink and drive all the time. I don't drive drunk though, well only when it's an unusual circumstance.

Purity
09-09-2003, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by madcrewmom
Your last sentence says it all. People aren't responsible. That is what I've been trying to teach my son. To be responsible. It's worth repeating.

unfortunately the lesson usually doesn't sink in until we get burned

Bzob
09-09-2003, 04:28 PM
:- !

nance
09-09-2003, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Purity
unfortunately the lesson usually doesn't sink in until we get burned

Son has been burned, he just thinks it's our fault for giving him life. I sometimes wonder if he's ever going to grow up. It's never his fault, there is always an excuse and he wears me down. I'm not giving up, but it is hard. Just 5 more years.......Any of you a holy terror with your parents? any suggestions? I've tried more than can imagine, but open to more ideas. Other than the belt.

Bzob
09-09-2003, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by ruffneck119
I drink and drive all the time. I don't drive drunk though, well only when it's an unusual circumstance.

Thats how it all begins...*Sigh*

Bzob
09-09-2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by madcrewmom
Son has been burned, he just thinks it's our fault for giving him life. I sometimes wonder if he's ever going to grow up. It's never his fault, there is always an excuse and he wears me down. I'm not giving up, but it is hard. Just 5 more years.......Any of you a holy terror with your parents? any suggestions? I've tried more than can imagine, but open to more ideas. Other than the belt.


Sorry, i wish i could help but i was a perfect child.

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 04:52 PM
When I was about thirteen, I ran away from home on three different occasions. There wasn't any reason for it, I just did it to spite my stepmom. I was a being a *****, and I really hurt her. My dad tracked me down the third time I did it, pulled me out to the car by the hair, and then once he got into the driver's seat he hit my head against the window. Do I think it was wrong? Possibly. Do I hold it against him? Hell no, I had it coming.

The reason I stopped after that time was because I realized the damage I was doing to my stepmom, and her being my father's wife, the damage I was doing to my dad.

My parents gave me an ultimatim. Change friends, hangouts, or get out. The reality came to me two weeks after I had left and I didn't have anywhere to go. I came back home, and now I realize that when I changed friends, it wasn't hard to change habits. There is infinite wisdom in the saying, "Show me your friends, and I will show you your future."

Purity
09-09-2003, 04:55 PM
mom i was like that with my mom when i was 13. she was a single mother so i started getting to be this rebellious dickwad.

one night i came home stoned. she confronted me about it and i said, "whatever." then i flipped her off and slammed my bedroom door in her face.

even though he never got involved in our lives ever, my mom decided to call my dad (who had just moved down the street) and told him everything i just did to her. he came down and kicked the living **** outta me. then he took my gameboy, nintendo, models, and boogy board and broke them and threw them in the trash bin. after that he told me that if i ever disrespected my mom like that again that he was gonna break my ****in jaw.

it may seem brutal but i learned my lesson. sometimes "time out", or quality talks, or counselors don't solve the problems. if you want my advice, i recommend kicking his ass around a lil bit.

i went to lunch with my dad about 8 months ago. outta nowhere he just up and appologized for never being there for me. i told him no worries and even thanked him for punchin me around that night. i deserved it. sometimes you don't realize how much of a favor your parents did to you by kicking your ass until yer grown up.

AgonYx0
09-09-2003, 04:55 PM
drunk

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Purity
i deserved it. sometimes you don't realize how much of a favor your parents did to you by kicking your ass until yer grown up.

couldn't have said it better.

Bzob
09-09-2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by AgonY^x0
drunk

YAY

Bluecifer
09-09-2003, 05:01 PM
I gave a full presentation on workmans comp, benefits, disabilty insurance and 401k returns after smoking more pot than(insert any gangsta rapper name here) in front of 70 people last week. That's the only way I can overcome my fear of public speaking. Oh, plus I am ALWAYS stoned unless my dealer runs dry.

Bzob
09-09-2003, 05:03 PM
never get high on your own suply

Bluecifer
09-09-2003, 05:05 PM
Uhhhhh, I only have access to my own supply. Remember, I moved here for o corpo job and have zero friends. People in my industry just aren't like me. ****in squares.

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 05:08 PM
I hope something that has been said can help you mom.

nance
09-09-2003, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
I hope something that has been said can help you mom.

Thanks to everyone. I have taken away all of his things before and let him earn them back. This last summer we thought he had finally matured. He was behaving, being helpful, doing his chores without being asked. He wasn't perfect, but he was a good kid, and we were proud of him and we let him know. Now we are back to the temper tantrums, anger out of control, lieing,(the thing I hate the most) Won't do his chores, clean his room, etc. And blames us because his room isn't done. I redid the girls' room and want to redo his....but he has to clean it out first. We have all the supplies right where he can see them everyday. Finding the right motivation is so hard...I am ready to beat the living daylights out of him, just afraid once I get started, I won't stop.

Purity
09-09-2003, 05:21 PM
when i was a kid, all that taking away of privledges stuff did to me was make me feel very resentful. my mom put our ****in tv in storage for 6 months!!! I MISSED THE L.A. RIOTS LIVE BECAUSE OF THAT!!!
i was an angered youth.

Bluecifer
09-09-2003, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Purity
when i was a kid, all that taking away of privledges stuff did to me was make me feel very resentful. my mom put our ****in tv in storage for 6 months!!! I MISSED THE L.A. RIOTS LIVE BECAUSE OF THAT!!!
i was an angered youth.

hehehehehehehe......Uh....were?

nance
09-09-2003, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Purity
when i was a kid, all that taking away of privledges stuff did to me was make me feel very resentful. my mom put our ****in tv in storage for 6 months!!! I MISSED THE L.A. RIOTS LIVE BECAUSE OF THAT!!!
i was an angered youth.

That's how I view him when we do that. Resentful. We have talked about taking EVERYTHING out of his room except for a mattress, coverings, and his clothes and taking his door off so he had no privacy unless he was in the bathroom. The stuff he does and has done. :nonono: I really am at my wit's end.

Purity
09-09-2003, 05:25 PM
yes WERE. now i'm happy.

:) <-----------see!

Purity
09-09-2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by madcrewmom
That's how I view him when we do that. Resentful. We have talked about taking EVERYTHING out of his room except for a mattress, coverings, and his clothes and taking his door off so he had no privacy unless he was in the bathroom. The stuff he does and has done. :nonono: I really am at my wit's end.

by law you can't kick him out cause he's a minor. but, for that same reason, he can't LEAVE the property either.
legally though, you ARE allowed to kick him out of the home, just not the property. my mom used to give me a pillow and a tent and then lock me outta the house. if i left then she called the cops. so i basically had to camp out in fronna the house and freeze.
try that after you kick his ass.

Bluecifer
09-09-2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Purity
yes WERE. now i'm happy.

:) <-----------see!

Oh!
My mistake.
I should try that......me =:) ..........hmmmmmm
Maybe I did that wrong...........

Purity
09-09-2003, 05:30 PM
no no! you're ok blue. mad weed & 401k's.....it's all good brotha!

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 05:30 PM
boot camp.

nance
09-09-2003, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by Purity
by law you can't kick him out cause he's a minor. but, for that same reason, he can't LEAVE the property either.
legally though, you ARE allowed to kick him out of the home, just not the property. my mom used to give me a pillow and a tent and then lock me outta the house. if i left then she called the cops. so i basically had to camp out in fronna the house and freeze.
try that after you kick his ass.

If I did that, I am pretty sure of what he would do. He is an extremely destructive young man. He stabbed a screwdriver into Jim's jeep tire one time. His reason? "because I want more time with my dad" He knew his daddy had tickets to a football game for the next day and it was to be just the two of them. No girls allowed. We took him down to the police station where he was searched and pushed around by a cop. He's (son) accused us of child abuse, he's just a monster at times. He works harder at getting out of doing things than it takes to actually doing it. The kicker, he behaves just about everywhere else except home and sometimes school.

nance
09-09-2003, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
boot camp.

can't afford it...almost sent him to a residential facility

Purity
09-09-2003, 05:35 PM
that's why you do it AFTER you kick his ass. and kick it hard. if you wanna make an omlette yer gonna have to break some eggs.

nance
09-09-2003, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Purity
that's why you do it AFTER you kick his ass. and kick it hard. if you wanna make an omlette yer gonna have to break some eggs.

Good point. I just wonder if it's really in me to do that. It hurts just thinking about it.

Purity
09-09-2003, 05:38 PM
HERE'S A GOOD IDEA!!!!!!!

you said that he really admired all the fighters at the HOC fights right? why don't we get dave and a few others to intimidate the **** outt've him? kinda like those "scared straight" programs.

nance
09-09-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Purity
HERE'S A GOOD IDEA!!!!!!!

you said that he really admired all the fighters at the HOC fights right? why don't we get dave and a few others to intimidate the **** outt've him? kinda like those "scared straight" programs.

Now that just might help. But it would have to be on a continuous basis, like a followup. We've had other things work before, but then he finds away around it, you know what I mean? He gets his teachers fooled, then it's too late before they catch on. So his grades suck. I can stay on top of him, (stay at home mom, thank God) but he does wear me down at times. And I do have two other kids who do resent him at times. (can't says I blame them)

Purity
09-09-2003, 05:45 PM
this (http://maddox.xmission.com/beat.html) is still the best remedy

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 05:46 PM
why not get him involved in a sport like mma? something where he can take out extra aggression, take up some of his time, and give him goals.

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 05:47 PM
maddox is the best. hahahaha

nance
09-09-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
why not get him involved in a sport like mma? something where he can take out extra aggression, take up some of his time, and give him goals.

He's in taekwondo with his dad and sister. He's also involved with bmx biking WHEN he gets his stuff done. But he's usually not done.

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 05:54 PM
I know that growing up, my dad made a mistake with his punishments. When I would do something wrong, he would take my kickboxing lessons away from me. I understand his train of thought on that one, but it was probably one of the worst things he could've done. My classes were where I was learning discipline more than anywhere else, but he saw it as somewhere I was having fun, which was true.

I would encourage you not to take away something like his tkw, because they aren't going to teach him anything but skill, discipline and patience.

Bluecifer
09-09-2003, 05:58 PM
I was never disciplined. Except for minor spankings when I did something really ****ed up. They were shocked as **** when I got into a good college and got the sort of job they deemed "respectable", whatever the **** that means. Maybe he'll just grow out of this phase. Then again, I don't know **** about kids.

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 06:04 PM
I'm not trying to be ms. shrink over here, because I agree with Purity, sounds like he needs an ass whooping, but is this how he's been acting the last 13 years? When did this behavior start and is there something triggering it?

LukeDothSucketh
09-09-2003, 06:09 PM
I'm a good son, I don't know what you should do. I guess I'd take him down to some ****ed up part of LA, drop him off at some ****hole orphange, and peel off. Have some one else in a car that can follow him around so he doesn't get lost or something, have them call you of his whereabouts, then pick him up a couple of hours later. Maybe he'd appreciate his family then. Or Something.

nance
09-09-2003, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
I'm not trying to be ms. shrink over here, because I agree with Purity, sounds like he needs an ass whooping, but is this how he's been acting the last 13 years? When did this behavior start and is there something triggering it?


His personality did a complete 180 when he was 4 and half. He took a dive off the top bunk, bounced off the bottom bunk and came down nose first into the bookcase. A hole in the nose right below the bone. Rushed him to the ER (another long story) and got him all stitched up. From that night on, he wet the bed 3-4 times a night. Found a bruise on his spine the day after the accident. After two years of every night with a wet bed, I tried chiropractic treatment. Took three weeks to start seeing dry mornings again. He still has accidents, but not like he used to. On the nose issue, I told the doctors for years, my son is different. He's not himself, the accident did something to him. All I would get is a pat on the back and be told, boys will be boys. I wanted to scream. I couldn't get help from anywhere until I moved here to O'side. Then we found the physchologist. He has said that my son is the MOST stubborn kid he has ever come across in 30 years. I still believe it had to do with the accident and the doc agrees with me. He's diagnosed passive ADD, but the meds only help for a short time before they become ineffective or we raise the dose, then do it all over again. I took him off the meds and put him on natural supplements. Those seem to help up to a point. He's more in control at times, but I can no longer "allow" him to use these things as "reasons" as to why he does the things he does. Uh oh, I'm rambling....sorry.

nance
09-09-2003, 06:18 PM
Crytalline, I love your avatar......just beautiful.

Crystalline Dream
09-09-2003, 06:24 PM
knowing a history on this, I can see the frustration you must go through. But if this is seriously something brought on by an injury, it must be frustrating for him too.

I agree with you, you can't let him use it as an excuse, but you might want to consider his age too. He's 13, probably hitting puberty, where things are so overwhelming to begin with, and then to add the history he has on to it, his brain is probably going nuts.

If that is the reason he is acting up, he will grow out of it. Just remember that he is 13, and that he is still learning how to be mature and measure up to the things expected out of him.

nance
09-09-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
knowing a history on this, I can see the frustration you must go through. But if this is seriously something brought on by an injury, it must be frustrating for him too.

I agree with you, you can't let him use it as an excuse, but you might want to consider his age too. He's 13, probably hitting puberty, where things are so overwhelming to begin with, and then to add the history he has on to it, his brain is probably going nuts.

If that is the reason he is acting up, he will grow out of it. Just remember that he is 13, and that he is still learning how to be mature and measure up to the things expected out of him.

I do see the frustration in him. We have been working with him since he was 8-9 years old. I saw this coming and started observing him constantly to see what was going on. Alot of it is he is just plain stubborn and wants his way and alot of it is the impulsivity factor. He has little or no control over it. That is the biggest thing for him to get over. We've given him the tools and we've helped him in sooo many ways, but we don't gain much ground. School is a big issue too. He just turned 14 and is in the eighth grade. Because he failed 6th and 7th grade math they suggested we hold him back. We did that once already and shouldn't do it again. I've already had four calls in two days from his teachers about missing assignments......ones that I know he's done. I have a meeting on Thursday with them. Hopefully this year will be better. He won't pass the eighth grade exit exam and then will be sent to the continuation school.....I don't want that for him. He's capable of doing the work.....it's just getting him to do it....in school and in home. On the puberty issue, I can deal with that part of it, I've already dealt with it twice.....girls are harder than boys on that issue.....lol.

DragonZero
09-09-2003, 10:57 PM
i think we all know where i stand on this one

realkaps
09-09-2003, 11:25 PM
On the wrong side......

DragonZero
09-09-2003, 11:38 PM
no

realkaps
09-09-2003, 11:44 PM
Getting high sucks, you just turn into a burned out brain dead loser who dont wanna do anything. Alcohol makes you social and being drunk is alot more fun than being high.....

DragonZero
09-09-2003, 11:45 PM
alcohol destroys your liver not fun

realkaps
09-09-2003, 11:47 PM
Pot destroys your lungs and brain, not fun.......

Alcohol = Good mood, social, sometimes energetic.....

Weed = Tired and hungry....

DragonZero
09-09-2003, 11:48 PM
ok your putting up a good arguement i'll give it to you

Crystalline Dream
09-10-2003, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by kaps
Getting high sucks, you just turn into a burned out brain dead loser who dont wanna do anything. Alcohol makes you social and being drunk is alot more fun than being high.....


well since we are making wide stereotypes here, when you drink you must be loud, obnoxious and cant drive without crashing into something

Crystalline Dream
09-10-2003, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by DragonZero
ok your putting up a good arguement i'll give it to you


buddy you suck at debate, keep your dayjob.

DragonZero
09-10-2003, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
buddy you suck at debate, keep your dayjob.




nah i think i'll run for president

seldomTap
09-10-2003, 12:15 AM
Real men smoke Opium

ruffneck119
09-10-2003, 02:23 AM
All this talk of drinking and driving is making me hot and bothered.

Crystalline Dream
09-10-2003, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by madcrewmom
Crytalline, I love your avatar......just beautiful.

Thanks :)... best part of it is it is computer rendered. you would never be able to tell by the bigger version either

Bzob
09-10-2003, 02:53 PM
I could tell

Mr. Beelzebub
09-10-2003, 02:54 PM
Bobert is not as dumb as he looks.

Bzob
09-10-2003, 02:54 PM
Madcrewmom...What kind of things has he done? is he violent or hyper?

HockeyFighter
09-10-2003, 02:56 PM
I hate school. ****ing 8am classes my ass.

DragonZero
09-10-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
Bobert is not as dumb as he looks.



you'd never be able to tell by looking

Squezze
09-10-2003, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by kaps
Pot destroys your lungs and brain, not fun.......

Alcohol = Good mood, social, sometimes energetic.....

Weed = Tired and hungry....


Oh me oh my, where to start. First off, yes pot is hard on your lungs. Anything you inhale is gonna be hard on your lungs. But brain? I would have to say that alcohol is much harder on your brain. Not even taking into consideration the negative effect booze has on your heart, liver and kidneys. Alcohol is much harder on your health than smoking a little weed.

As for alcohol putting people in a good mood, sometimes it does, and other times it dosen't. I've never heard of someone raping a child or beating their wife cause of a joint. In my opinion, alcohol is a much greater evil to yourself and society than a little ganga. Potheads never hurt anybody.

realkaps
09-10-2003, 04:44 PM
Potheads never really did anything. I ****in hate burnouts.......

Squezze
09-10-2003, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by kaps
Potheads never really did anything. I ****in hate burnouts.......


I think not doing anything is much better than beating the **** out of someone in a drunken rage.

DragonZero
09-10-2003, 04:47 PM
are you kidding me the creators of the simpsons-potheads every cartoon ever made was by a pothead plus half of your computer genuises these days are ex-potheads or closet potheads

Bzob
09-10-2003, 04:47 PM
I like drugs and alcohol

realkaps
09-10-2003, 04:49 PM
Matt Groening is not a pothead, and I doubt it......

I dont fight drunk.....

Crystalline Dream
09-10-2003, 04:53 PM
it's not even that, look at what you both are saying "All people who drink are raging **** ups" and "All people who smoke pot are burnouts". **** that ****. You might as well be throwing out some racism while you're at it, ****ers.

DragonZero
09-10-2003, 04:53 PM
dude,take a look at matt groening and say that again

ruffneck119
09-10-2003, 04:53 PM
Crystal!!!

Good job girl. That's some stupid ass **** to be saying.

Bzob
09-10-2003, 04:53 PM
LOL

DragonZero
09-10-2003, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
it's not even that, look at what you both are saying "All people who drink are raging **** ups" and "All people who smoke pot are burnouts". **** that ****. You might as well be throwing out some racism while you're at it, ****ers.



hey hey easy i'm not saying either are bad:poke:

Mr. Beelzebub
09-10-2003, 04:55 PM
You can never go wrong with a couple lines of coke...

realkaps
09-10-2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
it's not even that, look at what you both are saying "All people who drink are raging **** ups" and "All people who smoke pot are burnouts". **** that ****. You might as well be throwing out some racism while you're at it, ****ers.

Its better than being a tweeker......

Bzob
09-10-2003, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
You can never go wrong with a couple lines of coke...

Bzob
09-10-2003, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by kaps
Its better than being a tweeker......

NO

Crystalline Dream
09-10-2003, 05:02 PM
I was going to think of something smart to say here, but I am in too good of a mood. :) :):) :):):):):):)

Bzob
09-10-2003, 05:03 PM
you could say my av looks like computer animation..BIG TIME!

Crystalline Dream
09-10-2003, 05:04 PM
at least mine doesn't

Squezze
09-11-2003, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
it's not even that, look at what you both are saying "All people who drink are raging **** ups" and "All people who smoke pot are burnouts". **** that ****. You might as well be throwing out some racism while you're at it, ****ers.


I dunno if you're talking to me or not, but if you are, you'd better re-read what I said.

Crystalline Dream
09-11-2003, 01:58 AM
no I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Kaps and Dragonzero