This is the toughest hustle known to man. You gotta look for a long time in that mirror at yourself, and ask yourself if you are really built for it. Are you built for waking up at 4:30 am to do calisthenics then roadwork before going to your 8 hour a day job? Are you built for doing this every single day just to stay ahead of the other guys, or to make up for what you've lost by starting later than them in life?

Are you built for starving yourself, and then eating a tomato, alone, for supper and going to sleep after a long ass run? Are you built to distance yourself from going out and having fun with all your other friends, because you'd rather jump rope, or watch classic fights?

Because if you aren't, don't even **** with it. What's going to end up happening, is you'll come into the gym, train few months, come time to spar, get knocked the **** out and quit, and all that time will be wasted. Just a FYI. I saw this happen to quite a few kids because they just didn't know what kind of world they were entering...

You have to really want it, you gotta have a deep desire to always be better than the next guy, **** you hear about Tyson grunting in the dark shadowboxing at the kids jail back in NYC, that kind of dedication is what shapes victory in the squared circle...That is all....

My advice is in my sig. :boxing:

I'd add that you don't -- can't -- know if you're ready for this or not until you step in a GYM. A real Goddamn gym, not "boxing fitness" at the Y or Tae Bo performed to Ace of Base. You've got to get in there and give blood. (Hitting a bag in your garage or "sparring" with your buddies in your backyard is not boxing, anymore than taking morning jogs makes you a triathlete.)

And if you get in the ring and learn that you're too peaceful a person to be competitive in this sport, there's no shame in that, either.

My advice is in my sig. :boxing:

I'd add that you don't -- can't -- know if you're ready for this or not until you step in a GYM. A real Goddamn gym, not "boxing fitness" at the Y or Tae Bo performed to Ace of Base. You've got to get in there and give blood. (Hitting a bag in your garage or "sparring" with your buddies in your backyard is not boxing, anymore than taking morning jogs makes you a triathlete.)

And if you get in the ring and learn that you're too peaceful a person to be competitive in this sport, there's no shame in that, either.

And fraidy, as usual, is on point like a coffin nail.

Great advice, and I've read alot of your posts, you took up boxing later in life and it gave you it's gifts of character and etc, so I can understand where your coming from plus I know you're one of the few here (That post regularly) who've actually sparred tough real competition . I see ur after fight pics and they werent pretty. Never seen ya spar or do any bag work but I'm sure you got some hands.

I don't know if I'm too peaceful, but when I hurt a guy and know he's hurt, if I've been training with him and he's from my gym, I let him off the hook...If it's a guy who came to my gym to spar, depending on how he acted towards me before the spar is how I handle the situation...But 95% of the time when I get my guy hurt upstairs I go straight to the body with everything I have and they don't come out of their corner for the next round. (If you've never experienced it, it's a weird, weird feeling to throw a full power punch on a guy who's eyes are rollin' in the back of his head, with bad, killing intentions, but it's definately interesting.)

fraidy I relate to u also because you and I both started late...goddamnit why did my father have to be a computer nerd/golf guy

good post norman. This is the toughest sport in the world. Those that want to be half decent must bust serious balls in the gym, day in day out. Huge loads of physical and mental stress, all on a daily basis. Either give it all, or don't give at all. No pain no gain.

This is the toughest hustle known to man. You gotta look for a long time in that mirror at yourself, and ask yourself if you are really built for it. Are you built for waking up at 4:30 am to do calisthenics then roadwork before going to your 8 hour a day job? Are you built for doing this every single day just to stay ahead of the other guys, or to make up for what you've lost by starting later than them in life?

Are you built for starving yourself, and then eating a tomato, alone, for supper and going to sleep after a long ass run? Are you built to distance yourself from going out and having fun with all your other friends, because you'd rather jump rope, or watch classic fights?

Because if you aren't, don't even **** with it. What's going to end up happening, is you'll come into the gym, train few months, come time to spar, get knocked the **** out and quit, and all that time will be wasted. Just a FYI. I saw this happen to quite a few kids because they just didn't know what kind of world they were entering...

You have to really want it, you gotta have a deep desire to always be better than the next guy, **** you hear about Tyson grunting in the dark shadowboxing at the kids jail back in NYC, that kind of dedication is what shapes victory in the squared circle...That is all....

Nice try but ya givin advice to yourself coz looking at your vids you are a newbie!

First, Ya dont have to get up at 4.30am to run. You can be a successful amateur by going to the gym 3 or 4 days a week and throwing in some roadwork as well.

Smart boxers dont starve themselves, thats silly, a tomato for supper? thats just dumb.

And doing that **** aint gonna prepare ya for sparring. It takes a bit to get used to getting hit but no-one should be trying to knock ya out when ya just starting.

The last bit ya said is good but. But where u get off giving advice seeing ya box clumsy and ya outta of shape in both ya vids?

I disagree. I think everyone should try boxing its the best sport in the world and if more people gave it a try when they're young then there would be a lot more talent coming in. sometimes people don't know what they have inside them and it's pointless for you to discourage anyone from it. they will find out soon enough what it entails and will hopefully find that the benefits outweigh the struggles.

its a hard, hard sport

but you dramatise it a little bit, most boxers dont have to eat a tomato for dinner, if making weight gets to the point you can only eat a tomato for dinner you need to move up a weight class lol

and wern't you the out of shape guy who had bad technique on the bag and was boasting about how he knocked all the bruthas out at the gym lol

so i dont think you would know what its like to starve yourself and get up early to run lol

and on top of what tszu said, you shouldn't eat a tomato before bed. tomatoes have carbs which, while sleeping, are turned into fat. you'd be better off eating a piece of fish or poultry or maybe just some low fat cottage cheese.

Nice try but ya givin advice to yourself coz looking at your vids you are a newbie!

First, Ya dont have to get up at 4.30am to run. You can be a successful amateur by going to the gym 3 or 4 days a week and throwing in some roadwork as well.

Smart boxers dont starve themselves, thats silly, a tomato for supper? thats just dumb.

And doing that **** aint gonna prepare ya for sparring. It takes a bit to get used to getting hit but no-one should be trying to knock ya out when ya just starting.

The last bit ya said is good but. But where u get off giving advice seeing ya box clumsy and ya outta of shape in both ya vids?

seriously...

*Sigh*

OP, if the point of your post is "this is a tough sport", well, yea it is...but don't try to back that fact up with ridiculous examples. While it is true a lot of people don't stick around the gym, it isn't because they got their asses knocked out sparring. Hard physical training isn't for everyone. Either is playing chess. I tried playing chess and was not bad at it, but it just fookin bores me...so I quit. This more then anything is the reason people quit boxing. They just find out for various reasons it isn't for them.

You don't have to be prepared to kill yourself, starve yourself, learn to love pain...to join and enjoy learning the sweet science. You need two things. A desire to try it, and the ability to walk your ass through the door. What happens from there, happens. Some will go on to be great fighters, determined. Others will get a bit fitter and learn some self-defence and discipline. Others maybe will have the desire but lack the talent and drive to fight. They could end up being good coaches and trainers. Many go just for the conditioning, which is awesome.

So be careful about how black and white you paint boxing and partaking in it. If you are trying to talk about what it takes to become a champion, a pro, well maybe leave that to those that know and have been there. Anyone can box. The more people walking through the door, regardless of whether they stay or not, the better this sport will be for it. The more people encouraging them to take that step...the more people will benefit from the experience.

Ya see, on a personal note, this sport may have saved me. It for sure helped me be a better person. It taught me to respect others, by first respecting myself. So I feel I owe it to give back what I can. I start by trying to get as many through its doors as possible, not to discourage them; and I draw a lot to this sport in my little corner of the world...but not generally with words, but by example.

You want to make a legitmate statement on what it takes to box ? Be the example.

thats some pretty stupid **** you wrote there.

do you starve yourself and then eat a tomato alone? if you do your pretty stupid

thats some pretty stupid **** you wrote there.

do you starve yourself and then eat a tomato alone? if you do your pretty stupid

He's been watching the Hajime No Ippo cartoon where Takamura does exactly that before a fight...

I second those guys who said everyone could try boxing. No need to consider what the elite have to do to make it, when you've never been to the gym yet. That's like saying you have to consider what the riders of the Tour de France go through just because you're thinking about riding a bike because it looks fun.

Boxing to be the best is hard, but so is every other sport out there. I have talented 12 year old boys that you might be reading about on this site in a few years. Do you think I give them or their parents that speech when they come to the gym? OF course not, they're having fun and laying the groundwork to becoming serious athletes in the years to come at the same time.

He's been watching the Hajime No Ippo cartoon where Takamura does exactly that before a fight...

I second those guys who said everyone could try boxing. No need to consider what the elite have to do to make it, when you've never been to the gym yet. That's like saying you have to consider what the riders of the Tour de France go through just because you're thinking about riding a bike because it looks fun.

Boxing to be the best is hard, but so is every other sport out there. I have talented 12 year old boys that you might be reading about on this site in a few years. Do you think I give them or their parents that speech when they come to the gym? OF course not, they're having fun and laying the groundwork to becoming serious athletes in the years to come at the same time.

nicely said

If your a new comer you will not be running at 4:30 in the moring. Most pros don't even do that.

He's been watching the Hajime No Ippo cartoon where Takamura does exactly that before a fight...



lol punch drunk i was thinking the exact same thing. the picture in his sig is also a dead give away. but hey hajime no ippo is the ****

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also, if you were just training like that stormin norman guy is and didnt have a huge fight or tournament coming up why would you get up at 4:30am to run lol and then starve yourself and eat a tomato lmao

thats some dumb ****, i can just imagine him sitting in a room on his own with a tomato on his plate lol :rofl:

also, if you were just training like that stormin norman guy is and didnt have a huge fight or tournament coming up why would you get up at 4:30am to run lol and then starve yourself and eat a tomato lmao

thats some dumb ****, i can just imagine him sitting in a room on his own with a tomato on his plate lol :rofl:

because the other guys, that the newcomer spars with, won't be doing that. They won't be waking up early, living, breathing, eating, sleeping, and ****ting boxing, like someone who takes it seriously SHOULD be doing. There are only two outcomes of boxing, the first is brain damage, no matter how minor; the second, is fight experience for both guys...the harder a new guy works, the less brain damage he takes come time for him to pass his trials, it's not hard to figure out.....

Take Kostya's advice, only train as hard as possible with a tournament coming up...Then end up being second rate, like this guy probably is (or will be.)



Hey, Kostya...How many fights have you had? None? Never sparred either? Sit the **** down, you're just an armchair fan with a big mouth.

I have talented 12 year old boys that you might be reading about on this site in a few years. Do you think I give them or their parents that speech when they come to the gym? OF course not, they're having fun and laying the groundwork to becoming serious athletes in the years to come at the same time.

I agree with everything you've ever posted until this...

...'Having fun' easily can translate into 'Unwanted brain damage'...boxing is serious, especially for children who's brains are still in the developmental process...if my kids ever box, they damn well better be taking it seriously, otherwise I will prohibit it...

You see these guys who take their kids to the gym, young kids, 10 yrs old, have em train and have some fun with it for a month or two, then spar a few times, then have 1 fight and quit, because the kid didn't take it as serious as his opponent did, (or the kid didn't have a proper reason for wanting to be a boxer in the first place, or was just being propelled by a boxing crazed father to be a boxer, but I guess it worked for Floyd, BUT he was in a family of champions so he always saw the rewards, from the ****in cradle....

Toney said it best, you play football, baseball, basketball...You don't play boxing

lol punch drunk i was thinking the exact same thing. the picture in his sig is also a dead give away. but hey hajime no ippo is the ****

that what i thought when i read it!

but yeah hajime no ippo is the ****

I watched your heavy bag vid, you have no business calling anyone an armchair anything, you've never been in a real gym in your life!

The more you talk, the more apparent it becomes that you don't know **** about boxing. Hajime No Ippo is great and all, but it's a cartoon man. I'm definitely not gonna take advice on how to train my fighters from a newbie like you.

I watched your heavy bag vid, you have no business calling anyone an armchair anything, you've never been in a real gym in your life!

The more you talk, the more apparent it becomes that you don't know **** about boxing. Hajime No Ippo is great and all, but it's a cartoon man. I'm definitely not gonna take advice on how to train my fighters from a newbie like you.

you know absolutely dick about me, other than a bag vid which was taken when I was under the affects of 4mg xanax...rofl...

ive ran top amateurs out of a local gym here in baton rouge...But you know what, I'm not gonna flame you and continue this back and forth ****, think whatever you want, I don't really care.

you know absolutely dick about me, other than a bag vid which was taken when I was under the affects of 4mg xanax...rofl...

ive ran top amateurs out of a local gym here in baton rouge...But you know what, I'm not gonna flame you and continue this back and forth ****, think whatever you want, I don't really care.

your so full of **** mate

because the other guys, that the newcomer spars with, won't be doing that. They won't be waking up early, living, breathing, eating, sleeping, and ****ting boxing, like someone who takes it seriously SHOULD be doing. There are only two outcomes of boxing, the first is brain damage, no matter how minor; the second, is fight experience for both guys...the harder a new guy works, the less brain damage he takes come time for him to pass his trials, it's not hard to figure out.....

Take Kostya's advice, only train as hard as possible with a tournament coming up...Then end up being second rate, like this guy probably is (or will be.)



Hey, Kostya...How many fights have you had? None? Never sparred either? Sit the **** down, you're just an armchair fan with a big mouth.


your such a ****head.

i train hard all year round, but i dont starve myself idiot...

ive had one fight and one exhibition, got another fight coming up in a month

ive been boxing for around 18 mnths but i wasnt with a very good trainer up until the last few mnths, but thats irrelevant , anyway, i probably know more than you do you moron, i saw your heavybag vid, and yes you arent second rate, you are third or fourth rate

This is a very passionate post, but its lacking common knowledge of sleep.

You need sleep for rest, and sleep helps your muscles grow and rebuild.

Sleep is honestly one of the most important things in one's life.
Theres too many negatives when you don't get the adequate amount of rest.

you know absolutely dick about me, other than a bag vid which was taken when I was under the affects of 4mg xanax...rofl...

ive ran top amateurs out of a local gym here in baton rouge...But you know what, I'm not gonna flame you and continue this back and forth ****, think whatever you want, I don't really care.

The funny thing is, if you actually had a record, you wouldn't be defending yourself with that "I've ran top amateurs out of a local gym" crap. You would have simply said "I'm 33-10" or whatever. Since you didn't, we now know you have no fights (as if your vids didn't make that clear already).

The funny thing is, if you actually had a record, you wouldn't be defending yourself with that "I've ran top amateurs out of a local gym" crap. You would have simply said "I'm 33-10" or whatever. Since you didn't, we now know you have no fights (as if your vids didn't make that clear already).

Are you a coach or something? I agree 100% it sounds like he only does boxing to sound big and tough.

Are you a coach or something? I agree 100% it sounds like he only does boxing to sound big and tough.

Yea I think PunchDrunk is a coach :boxing:

StorminNorman i think you are a boxer just to claim you have passion for it... I love boxing just as much as any other boxer probably more but im not gonna write a preachy essay addressed to newcomers about eating tomatoes and running at 430 AM.

The truth is boxing is a sport and you dont have to start boxing with the mindset that you will do whatever it takes, it would be good to do that but you dont have to.

The fact is if someone goes into the gym spars trains and eventually spars and fights but ends up quitting. It doesnt mean he quit because he doesnt have the passion its because they just dont like it. It doesnt make you any better then them.

So my question to you stormin are you really fit for this? I mean you are a 350 pound newb who cant box. Its all good I guess on the internet even a monkey on crack could give advice.