I know boxing is a physical sport but for this topic, please think of a fighter who's good at messing with his opponents head. It could be before a fight or during the actual fight. Hopkins is good at getting in your head when he frustrates you and adapts to whatever style you show him in the ring. Toney and Mayorga are good at smack talking intimidation before a fight. Just a sample. :D

Right now

James Toney and Bernard Hopkins are head and shoulder above anyone else when its comes to getting in people's heads.

All Time

Ali was the best EVER.

Also prime Tyson, Duran and Liston got in people's head just in a different way. They got in people's heads by how scary they were not by words.

Also prime Tyson, Duran and Liston got in people's head just in a different way. They got in people's heads by how scary they were not by words.

Yeah. They were beasts to the eyes of many a fighter.

this guy:

you Got Any Excuses Tonight, Roy?

i'd have to say hopkins, ali and liston

this guy:

you Got Any Excuses Tonight, Roy?


my god how classic was that. I laughed my ass off when he said it and backed it up

I remember when Spinks got into Mayorga's head because Spinks was fast. Just a sample.

I like B-Hop for intimidation but Tyson even more. He had so many people beat before they even stepped into the ring, the main thing with mental games is that if you can convince someone they can't beat you, they won't.

James toney for sure.

James Toney, Bernard Hopkins. Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barerra really go at it. Joel Casamayor, too. He's a dick.

Hey Niels, could you possibly make your obnoxious signature any larger? It's taking up half the page, guy.

Oscar De La Hoya.......

Oscar De La Hoya.......


Nice! He really does. He makes you think hey I can beat him. And recently he has been right.

Hopkins is the man...who can forget the way he got in Tito's head with the handwrap controversy.

gotta say ali.. and hopkins...

Ali and James Toney come to mind because they talk when they fight and their pre fight talk really irritates anyone that they fight as well.

lamotta....

Sugar Ray Leonard. Most famously what he did to Duran on the rematch.

Sugar Ray Leonard. Most famously what he did to Duran on the rematch.

what happneed in this fight? ive never seen it

Ali and Hopkins.

Oscar de la Hoya

Tito

and obviously, Ali.

I even want to say Tyson, primarily because he's just crazy.

Oscar de la Hoya

Tito

and obviously, Ali.

I even want to say Tyson, primarily because he's just crazy.


Why Tito? I'm not disagreeing I just don't know anything about his out of ring comments.

I know boxing is a physical sport but for this topic, please think of a fighter who's good at messing with his opponents head. It could be before a fight or during the actual fight. Hopkins is good at getting in your head when he frustrates you and adapts to whatever style you show him in the ring. Toney and Mayorga are good at smack talking intimidation before a fight. Just a sample. :D

B-Hop
hands down

But Ali the best of all time
" i dont only knock'em down i call the round"

There's just something about Tito -- his demenour in the ring is enough to confuse anyone, I think. He's at times very deliberate and subtle, but other times, he comes out w/ some stuff that has you thinking "wow, i didn't see that one coming"

I think he's highly underrated.

B-Hop
hands down

But Ali the best of all time
" i dont only knock'em down i call the round"


I heard the one liner that Bernard came up with or used when he was asked what happens if DLH gets the decision? "How you gonna wake a dead man up and give him the decision."
Priceless.

I heard the one liner that Bernard came up with or used when he was asked what happens if DLH gets the decision? "How you gonna wake a dead man up and give him the decision."
Priceless.


Priceless indeed
but i take my hat off to DLH
he fought like a man
i never liked him until he got beated by B-Hop
he finally fought like a real mexican

PRINCE NASSEM HAMMED

he was just so confident/****y people were fearful as he acted like a god with the fliping around and all that people just thought he was from another planet i mean they must have been thinking how can a guy box without getting knocked out when his hands are by his knees
THEN HE MET BARRERA

Vk is cold as ice as were Lewis.

PRINCE NASSEM HAMMED

he was just so confident/****y people were fearful as he acted like a god with the fliping around and all that people just thought he was from another planet i mean they must have been thinking how can a guy box without getting knocked out when his hands are by his knees
THEN HE MET BARRERA

I remember when barrera
had him cornered and keept telling
asking him
"who is your daddy"

James Toney should never make a top 10 list, everytime he does its a disgrace to boxing. The guy is a chump, he is a fraud.

B-hop, Tszyu, Tarver, Toney, and I think Vitaly. The way last couple of his opponents looked scared ****less gives you an idea.

PRINCE NASSEM HAMMED

he was just so confident/****y people were fearful as he acted like a god with the fliping around and all that people just thought he was from another planet i mean they must have been thinking how can a guy box without getting knocked out when his hands are by his knees
THEN HE MET BARRERA

The man's crazy -- at 5 feet nothing, he's probably the ****iest boxer i have ever known...and i love him for it.

I know boxing is a physical sport but for this topic, please think of a fighter who's good at messing with his opponents head. It could be before a fight or during the actual fight. Hopkins is good at getting in your head when he frustrates you and adapts to whatever style you show him in the ring. Toney and Mayorga are good at smack talking intimidation before a fight. Just a sample. :D

Man that is SO true! Mayorga is so good at messing with his opponet that he has made ME want to rip his head off a time or two! He gets to me sometimes and I just PRAY for him to get manhandled!! :D
Toney talks a good game too, of course. Tarver likes to think he does :rolleyes: and like Jose pointed out, ALI was the master of mind games!!

Oliver McCall is a really good mental fighter

Oliver McCall is a really good mental fighter
He's MENTAL allright, but then so's Golata, and Bowe and Tyson and...

Hopkins just plain out convinces you that he's gonna win.

the one that sticks out in my mind is the first leonard/duran.leonard said when they squared up duran had a look in his eyes.itreminded him of a newspaper picture of a rapist that was on the loose.thats intimadating.

definitely, Ali, Hopkins, and hats off to Hamed until his loss.

and by the way, the same goes for just about every german fighter fighting in germany.....you are mentally behind, as you know you have to knock the opponent out or risk being cheated.

Right now it has to be Hopkins, Toney, Tszyu, Vitaly and some others that i can recall right now.

Ali,

However Hamed also was good. Cesar Soto started his fight with Hamed pretty good. Until Hamed Grabbed him and body slammed him on the canvas. Then it seemed like soto got discouraged.

PRINCE NASSEM HAMMED

he was just so confident/****y people were fearful as he acted like a god with the fliping around and all that people just thought he was from another planet i mean they must have been thinking how can a guy box without getting knocked out when his hands are by his knees
THEN HE MET BARRERA
hahaha ok just because i read thet
im gonna watch the fight right now

Johnny Tapia is the best at mental games. He has always been and always will be.

Ruiz the best because he always underestimated and shows no fear. Opponent gets frustrated and loses their game.

Ruiz the best because he always underestimated and shows no fear. Opponent gets frustrated and loses their game.

He really got to Tua eh? Looked scared to me. What round did be beat Tua in? Oh wait he got knocked out in 16 seconds.

He really got to Tua eh? Looked scared to me. What round did be beat Tua in? Oh wait he got knocked out in 16 seconds.

Who the champ? Ruiz thats who. Who 2 time champ? Ruiz thats who.

Who's Tua? No one, that's who. Where he at? At a shelter somewhere thats where.

Say it with me: Ruiz the champ.

Ruiz the champ.

He is the champ because James Toney failed a drug screen. LOL. How pathetic pretender. You make yourself look really foolish by supporting the worst fighter of all time (arguably).

He is the champ

Wisest words you ever wrote. Congratulations.

vitali gives his oppenets all the respect in the world so you think hey this guy is pretty nice, untill he hits you with a right, look at kirk johnsons face the first time vitali popped him good he looked done then.



Ali is the best of course

kirk johnson a bum. Ruiz kicked his ass.

kirk johnson a bum. Ruiz kicked his ass.



umm no ruiz was losing but won via DQ

umm no ruiz was losing but won via DQ

haha yeah. KJ won almost every round before being disqualified.

You saying David Tua is a nobody makes Ruiz look even worse. You're saying that he loss to a nobody in the time it takes one to go take a piss and come back to the TV.

Hopkins seems good at it. Roy got into Ruiz's head very well and many other fighters just by his presence. Tyson was an intimidator.

Tarver is not that great at it. He just has good timing in who he fights. Didn't really back up much vs Roy in the 1st fight or against Glen Johnson. It don't take Hopkins two times to beat everybody.\

umm no ruiz was losing but won via DQ

Ruiz kicked his ass. First person to beat Kirk. He got DQ because he was losing and got frustrated.

You saying David Tua is a nobody makes Ruiz look even worse. You're saying that he loss to a nobody in the time it takes one to go take a piss and come back to the TV.

Freak KOs like that happen in hw boxing. Any one punch can land just right and lay anyone out.

Ruiz went on from that loss to become 2 time world champ. Where Tua? No where. Losses like that end careers but not Ruiz, because he the true champ and returns to do great things.

IMO, i would have to say the great julio cesar chavez, he never let all the **** talking affect him, one time on a press conf. the other guy was so upset that chavez didnt really pay attention to his **** talking, it made the other guy furious wanted to fight him right then and there. Dont remember the guys name though.

Tyson used to beat half his opponents before they even got in the ring. And he didn't even have to say anything.

Today I think Hopkins is pretty good at that

Tyson used to beat half his opponents before they even got in the ring. And he didn't even have to say anything.

Today I think Hopkins is pretty good at that


fear leads to intimidation, intimidation leads to defeat, defeats leads to face on canvas

Freak KOs like that happen in hw boxing. Any one punch can land just right and lay anyone out.

Ruiz went on from that loss to become 2 time world champ. Where Tua? No where. Losses like that end careers but not Ruiz, because he the true champ and returns to do great things.

Lol, some of us are still waiting on Ruiz to do those "great" things"!! Being a 2 time champ is very good, but it's been done even more than that. Ali-3 times..Holyfield-4 times. Both deserve an honorable mention if you want to keep bringing up Ruiz's 2 times.

It's good to regain the title but being a "x-time" champ isn't neccessarily good. You have to lose the belt as many times to get it back.

It's good to regain the title but being a "x-time" champ isn't neccessarily good. You have to lose the belt as many times to get it back.

This is true too

Lol, some of us are still waiting on Ruiz to do those "great" things"!! Being a 2 time champ is very good, but it's been done even more than that. Ali-3 times..Holyfield-4 times. Both deserve an honorable mention if you want to keep bringing up Ruiz's 2 times.

Good Points TL,

The funny thing is, they were all trying to be 1 time champions. Everytime they regained a title, means they once lost a title. And we all praise them for that.

........????????? Not sure how that works.

BTW how have you been?

Good Points TL,

The funny thing is, they were all trying to be 1 time champions. Everytime they regained a title, means they once lost a title. And we all praise them for that.

........????????? Not sure how that works.

BTW how have you been?

Doing good..and you?
I agree, it's a bit messed up, but I think the fighters involved like to focus on the 'winning it back' than the losing it in the first place, which I can understand. I guess being able to regain it means (to them anyway) that they've still "got it"
But we all know keeping that title is the really hard part; much harder than getting it to begin with.

Ruiz kicked his ass. First person to beat Kirk. He got DQ because he was losing and got frustrated.


uummm no kirk johnson pretty much won every round offically on all judges scorecards before getting DQ'd ruiz was not winning

James Toney easily. I dont think there even any need to go into detail about it I think everyone here has seen him fight.

uummm no kirk johnson pretty much won every round offically on all judges scorecards before getting DQ'd ruiz was not winning

Who the champ? Ruiz that's who. Say it with me: Ruiz the champ.

george foreman - i would be scared before fighting him in case he hit me in the head with his grilling machine